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System Idle Problem!
I set up a backup program (Acronis) and a Malwarebyte scan at intervals when the computer is running with WMP going strong, as well as Thunderbird and IE. Yet, after a couple of minutes, the computer goes to sleep. According to the event viewer this is due to "system idle." But the system is clearly running and is in no way 'idle.' I have the advanced power options set to SLEEP: NEVER. Is there a way to stop Windows 7 / 64 from reading the system as idle when scheduled tasks are set up? Here are the details of the system going to sleep: Log Name: System Source: Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power Date: 11/23/2017 3:52:28 AM Event ID: 42 Task Category: (64) Level: Information Keywords: (4) User: N/A Computer: Marc-HP Description: The system is entering sleep. Sleep Reason: System Idle Event Xml: Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event" System Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power" Guid="{331C3B3A-2005-44C2-AC5E-77220C37D6B4}" / EventID42/EventID Version2/Version Level4/Level Task64/Task Opcode0/Opcode Keywords0x8000000000000004/Keywords TimeCreated SystemTime="2017-11-23T11:52:28.400629100Z" / EventRecordID3950676/EventRecordID Correlation / Execution ProcessID="4" ThreadID="52" / ChannelSystem/Channel ComputerMarc-HP/Computer Security / /System EventData Data Name="TargetState"4/Data Data Name="EffectiveState"4/Data Data Name="Reason"7/Data Data Name="Flags"0/Data /EventData /Event |
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System Idle Problem!
OREALLY wrote:
I set up a backup program (Acronis) and a Malwarebyte scan at intervals when the computer is running with WMP going strong, as well as Thunderbird and IE. Yet, after a couple of minutes, the computer goes to sleep. According to the event viewer this is due to "system idle." But the system is clearly running and is in no way 'idle.' I have the advanced power options set to SLEEP: NEVER. Is there a way to stop Windows 7 / 64 from reading the system as idle when scheduled tasks are set up? Here are the details of the system going to sleep: Log Name: System Source: Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power Date: 11/23/2017 3:52:28 AM Event ID: 42 Task Category: (64) Level: Information Keywords: (4) User: N/A Computer: Marc-HP Description: The system is entering sleep. Sleep Reason: System Idle Event Xml: Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event" System Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power" Guid="{331C3B3A-2005-44C2-AC5E-77220C37D6B4}" / EventID42/EventID Version2/Version Level4/Level Task64/Task Opcode0/Opcode Keywords0x8000000000000004/Keywords TimeCreated SystemTime="2017-11-23T11:52:28.400629100Z" / EventRecordID3950676/EventRecordID Correlation / Execution ProcessID="4" ThreadID="52" / ChannelSystem/Channel ComputerMarc-HP/Computer Security / /System EventData Data Name="TargetState"4/Data Data Name="EffectiveState"4/Data Data Name="Reason"7/Data Data Name="Flags"0/Data /EventData /Event They work through a few obscure reasons here. https://superuser.com/questions/1247...option-setting Apparently if the OS thinks there was a "remote wakeup" it is then bound and determined to sleep again. So rather than being in the running state and seeking to meet the sleep criterion, it's in a "why did I wake up" state, and seeking an excuse to go back to sleep. ******* If the machine is behaving in a desperate manner (sleeps in seconds), you can try a program like this. It uses the same trick as multimedia players are supposed to use. A movie player is also supposed to assert a Don't Sleep thing while it runs, so that a user will not be irritated by the OS attempting to sleep half-way through a movie. http://www.softwareok.com/?Microsoft/DontSleep While some people actually have a problem with their hibernate setting and timer, I take it on face value, that the "sleep" recorded in your event is actually S3. And consequently there's no need to check the S4 (Hibernate) equivalent timer setting. Some people are seeing the "sleep" behavior after a specific hour in the day. Could the behavior come from Scheduled Tasks ? If so, it might happen once at a particular hour, but you'd think it would stop after that. I've been unable to find a decoder that decodes the "Reason"7 part of your report. I suspect that is significant. But without a header file with ENUM types, I won't know what the 7 means. Some other kinds of messages of a similar nature, use a text string instead of that number. I need to find the table for that. Paul |
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Thanks so Much. Please keep me posted!
Marc "Paul" wrote in message news OREALLY wrote: I set up a backup program (Acronis) and a Malwarebyte scan at intervals when the computer is running with WMP going strong, as well as Thunderbird and IE. Yet, after a couple of minutes, the computer goes to sleep. According to the event viewer this is due to "system idle." But the system is clearly running and is in no way 'idle.' I have the advanced power options set to SLEEP: NEVER. Is there a way to stop Windows 7 / 64 from reading the system as idle when scheduled tasks are set up? Here are the details of the system going to sleep: Log Name: System Source: Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power Date: 11/23/2017 3:52:28 AM Event ID: 42 Task Category: (64) Level: Information Keywords: (4) User: N/A Computer: Marc-HP Description: The system is entering sleep. Sleep Reason: System Idle Event Xml: Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event" System Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power" Guid="{331C3B3A-2005-44C2-AC5E-77220C37D6B4}" / EventID42/EventID Version2/Version Level4/Level Task64/Task Opcode0/Opcode Keywords0x8000000000000004/Keywords TimeCreated SystemTime="2017-11-23T11:52:28.400629100Z" / EventRecordID3950676/EventRecordID Correlation / Execution ProcessID="4" ThreadID="52" / ChannelSystem/Channel ComputerMarc-HP/Computer Security / /System EventData Data Name="TargetState"4/Data Data Name="EffectiveState"4/Data Data Name="Reason"7/Data Data Name="Flags"0/Data /EventData /Event They work through a few obscure reasons here. https://superuser.com/questions/1247...option-setting Apparently if the OS thinks there was a "remote wakeup" it is then bound and determined to sleep again. So rather than being in the running state and seeking to meet the sleep criterion, it's in a "why did I wake up" state, and seeking an excuse to go back to sleep. ******* If the machine is behaving in a desperate manner (sleeps in seconds), you can try a program like this. It uses the same trick as multimedia players are supposed to use. A movie player is also supposed to assert a Don't Sleep thing while it runs, so that a user will not be irritated by the OS attempting to sleep half-way through a movie. http://www.softwareok.com/?Microsoft/DontSleep While some people actually have a problem with their hibernate setting and timer, I take it on face value, that the "sleep" recorded in your event is actually S3. And consequently there's no need to check the S4 (Hibernate) equivalent timer setting. Some people are seeing the "sleep" behavior after a specific hour in the day. Could the behavior come from Scheduled Tasks ? If so, it might happen once at a particular hour, but you'd think it would stop after that. I've been unable to find a decoder that decodes the "Reason"7 part of your report. I suspect that is significant. But without a header file with ENUM types, I won't know what the 7 means. Some other kinds of messages of a similar nature, use a text string instead of that number. I need to find the table for that. Paul |
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I'm just curious: Why would Windows seek an excuse to go back to sleep? It
certainly makes task scheduler kind of unreliable! Fortunately, I found a program called "Insomnia" which reverses this apparent idiocy on the part of Microsoft. I think the program you mentioned does the same. Apparently if the OS thinks there was a "remote wakeup" it is then bound and determined to sleep again. So rather than being in the running state and seeking to meet the sleep criterion, it's in a "why did I wake up" state, and seeking an excuse to go back to sleep. "Paul" wrote in message news OREALLY wrote: I set up a backup program (Acronis) and a Malwarebyte scan at intervals when the computer is running with WMP going strong, as well as Thunderbird and IE. Yet, after a couple of minutes, the computer goes to sleep. According to the event viewer this is due to "system idle." But the system is clearly running and is in no way 'idle.' I have the advanced power options set to SLEEP: NEVER. Is there a way to stop Windows 7 / 64 from reading the system as idle when scheduled tasks are set up? Here are the details of the system going to sleep: Log Name: System Source: Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power Date: 11/23/2017 3:52:28 AM Event ID: 42 Task Category: (64) Level: Information Keywords: (4) User: N/A Computer: Marc-HP Description: The system is entering sleep. Sleep Reason: System Idle Event Xml: Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event" System Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power" Guid="{331C3B3A-2005-44C2-AC5E-77220C37D6B4}" / EventID42/EventID Version2/Version Level4/Level Task64/Task Opcode0/Opcode Keywords0x8000000000000004/Keywords TimeCreated SystemTime="2017-11-23T11:52:28.400629100Z" / EventRecordID3950676/EventRecordID Correlation / Execution ProcessID="4" ThreadID="52" / ChannelSystem/Channel ComputerMarc-HP/Computer Security / /System EventData Data Name="TargetState"4/Data Data Name="EffectiveState"4/Data Data Name="Reason"7/Data Data Name="Flags"0/Data /EventData /Event They work through a few obscure reasons here. https://superuser.com/questions/1247...option-setting Apparently if the OS thinks there was a "remote wakeup" it is then bound and determined to sleep again. So rather than being in the running state and seeking to meet the sleep criterion, it's in a "why did I wake up" state, and seeking an excuse to go back to sleep. ******* If the machine is behaving in a desperate manner (sleeps in seconds), you can try a program like this. It uses the same trick as multimedia players are supposed to use. A movie player is also supposed to assert a Don't Sleep thing while it runs, so that a user will not be irritated by the OS attempting to sleep half-way through a movie. http://www.softwareok.com/?Microsoft/DontSleep While some people actually have a problem with their hibernate setting and timer, I take it on face value, that the "sleep" recorded in your event is actually S3. And consequently there's no need to check the S4 (Hibernate) equivalent timer setting. Some people are seeing the "sleep" behavior after a specific hour in the day. Could the behavior come from Scheduled Tasks ? If so, it might happen once at a particular hour, but you'd think it would stop after that. I've been unable to find a decoder that decodes the "Reason"7 part of your report. I suspect that is significant. But without a header file with ENUM types, I won't know what the 7 means. Some other kinds of messages of a similar nature, use a text string instead of that number. I need to find the table for that. Paul |
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I'm just curious: Why would Windows seek an excuse to go back to sleep? It
certainly makes task scheduler kind of unreliable! Fortunately, I found a program called "Insomnia" which reverses this apparent idiocy on the part of Microsoft. I think the program you mentioned does the same. Apparently if the OS thinks there was a "remote wakeup" it is then bound and determined to sleep again. So rather than being in the running state and seeking to meet the sleep criterion, it's in a "why did I wake up" state, and seeking an excuse to go back to sleep. "Paul" wrote in message news OREALLY wrote: I set up a backup program (Acronis) and a Malwarebyte scan at intervals when the computer is running with WMP going strong, as well as Thunderbird and IE. Yet, after a couple of minutes, the computer goes to sleep. According to the event viewer this is due to "system idle." But the system is clearly running and is in no way 'idle.' I have the advanced power options set to SLEEP: NEVER. Is there a way to stop Windows 7 / 64 from reading the system as idle when scheduled tasks are set up? Here are the details of the system going to sleep: Log Name: System Source: Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power Date: 11/23/2017 3:52:28 AM Event ID: 42 Task Category: (64) Level: Information Keywords: (4) User: N/A Computer: Marc-HP Description: The system is entering sleep. Sleep Reason: System Idle Event Xml: Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event" System Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power" Guid="{331C3B3A-2005-44C2-AC5E-77220C37D6B4}" / EventID42/EventID Version2/Version Level4/Level Task64/Task Opcode0/Opcode Keywords0x8000000000000004/Keywords TimeCreated SystemTime="2017-11-23T11:52:28.400629100Z" / EventRecordID3950676/EventRecordID Correlation / Execution ProcessID="4" ThreadID="52" / ChannelSystem/Channel ComputerMarc-HP/Computer Security / /System EventData Data Name="TargetState"4/Data Data Name="EffectiveState"4/Data Data Name="Reason"7/Data Data Name="Flags"0/Data /EventData /Event They work through a few obscure reasons here. https://superuser.com/questions/1247...option-setting Apparently if the OS thinks there was a "remote wakeup" it is then bound and determined to sleep again. So rather than being in the running state and seeking to meet the sleep criterion, it's in a "why did I wake up" state, and seeking an excuse to go back to sleep. ******* If the machine is behaving in a desperate manner (sleeps in seconds), you can try a program like this. It uses the same trick as multimedia players are supposed to use. A movie player is also supposed to assert a Don't Sleep thing while it runs, so that a user will not be irritated by the OS attempting to sleep half-way through a movie. http://www.softwareok.com/?Microsoft/DontSleep While some people actually have a problem with their hibernate setting and timer, I take it on face value, that the "sleep" recorded in your event is actually S3. And consequently there's no need to check the S4 (Hibernate) equivalent timer setting. Some people are seeing the "sleep" behavior after a specific hour in the day. Could the behavior come from Scheduled Tasks ? If so, it might happen once at a particular hour, but you'd think it would stop after that. I've been unable to find a decoder that decodes the "Reason"7 part of your report. I suspect that is significant. But without a header file with ENUM types, I won't know what the 7 means. Some other kinds of messages of a similar nature, use a text string instead of that number. I need to find the table for that. Paul |
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Wolf K wrote:
On 2017-11-28 00:44, OREALLY wrote: I'm just curious: Why would Windows seek an excuse to go back to sleep? [...] Can you say "laptop batteries"? :-) Well, if you bump the mouse, and then make no other input to the machine, the logic says "this was an accident", and the machine can then go back to sleep within five minutes. I think one night here, the Windows 10 machine was showing "restart", and I beat it to the draw and restarted it anyway. A little later, I manually put it to sleep. The OS left a wake event in the scheduler. The machine awoke at 4AM or so, because the scheduler had been set, but went back to sleep again soon after that. If it wanted, it could have stayed awake until the next day, because all my machines are set to "Automatic Sleep: Never". But it did go back to sleep on its own. (When computers sleep here, I put them to sleep manually from the menu.) Paul |
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"OREALLY" news
23 Nov 2017 16:47:36 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:
I set up a backup program (Acronis) and a Malwarebyte scan at intervals when the computer is running with WMP going strong, as well as Thunderbird and IE. Yet, after a couple of minutes, the computer goes to sleep. According to the event viewer this is due to "system idle." But the system is clearly running and is in no way 'idle.' I have the advanced power options set to SLEEP: NEVER. Is there a way to stop Windows 7 / 64 from reading the system as idle when scheduled tasks are set up? Why are you having Malwarebytes scan at intervals? Are you just wasting cpu cycles just to be doing so? Or do you think you're actually gaining increased protection by doing this? -- To prevent yourself from being a victim of cyber stalking, it's highly recommended you visit he https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php ================================================== = Useless Invention: Cast iron wire. |
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