!!!BOOTVIS EATS UP MY DRIVE!!!

So far you and John f have scolded the guy...but neither of you have said a
damn thing about HELPING him. Both you guys are assholes. Hope you're happy
with yourselves.


"mrtee" wrote in message
...
Did you even bother to read the white (instructions) paper that is on the
same page as the download was?

I think that you have somehow turned on a trace file in
W(indows)M(anagement)I(nstrumentation). Administration tools.

Bootvis only runs when you tell it to. It is a tool for developers to view
driver load times. XP does what Bootvis does on its own every 3 days.

--
Just my ¢ worth
Jeff
__________in response to__________
"Comp Guy" wrote in message
...
| Well how else am I supposed to get rid of a program that won't uninstall
by
| itself?
|
| I hope not everyone in this NG is a rude as you. Do you just waste your
| time demeaning people?
|
| --
| Please be polite.
| ------

Although I do have a P4 computer, I do not have hyperthreading. As well
this article deals with a trace file that is corrupt. Mine just grows and
grows, and I haven't been able to delete it. Even if I deny "everyone"
access to the file and folder, it still keeps growing.
Any other ideas?

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"johnf" wrote in message
...
Did you have a look at -
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;821581
It appears that there is a problem with Bootvis under certain
circumstances
and it also implies that they may sort you out for free.

--
John

How am I supposed to tell it to stop tracing, if it's not installed,
and it won't let me install it?

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"Frank" wrote in message
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mrtree & bill james DID tell you how to fix it. Why not just ignore
what you don't like and take the advice ?
Frank

"Comp Guy" wrote in message
...
To all who replied, I wasn't asking how I screwed up, I was asking
how to fix it.
If your going to tell me that I messed up, at least say how to fix it.
Don't be trollish.

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"Comp Guy" wrote in message
...
I told bootvis to trace. After my computer restarted, nothing
happened. I decided to get rid of bootvis, so I tried to uninstalled
it.
The uninstall messed up, and wouldn't work again, so I went through,
deleting as many bootvis files and registry entries as possible.
Now, a file called trace.log in the c:\windows\system32\logfiles\wmi
is there and I can't delete it. It grows at about 1 mb a second.
When I try to delete it, it tells me that it is in use. So I boot
to safe mode, but I still get the same error when I try to delete it.


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PMSL, I did you read the other posts?
I asked for help.
He tells me that I don't deserve help, and I should just wipe my drive.
Then I got angry and said, "Ok, so are you just going to be a jerk, or are
you going to help?
If the former, then go get a life.
If the later, thank you."

So how am I giving all this attitude?

How was a arrogant?
And yes, maybe saying that someone is a jerk is rude, but why would I call
them a jerk in the first place? (Rhetorical question)


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"Bill James" wrote in message
...
Why would anyone want to continue trying to help a person with an attitude
like yours? Arrogant and Rude, a very unpleasant combination.

--

Bill James
Microsoft Shell/UI

Win9x VBScript Utilities » www.billsway.com/vbspage/
Windows Tweaks & Tips » www.billsway.com/notes_public/

"Comp Guy" wrote in message
...
Ok, so are you just going to be a jerk, or are you going to help?
If the former, then go get a life.
If the later, thank you.

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"Name withheld by request" wrote in message
...
Comp Guy, try Format c:\
Put the XP CD in your tray, reboot and reload...
It's not a file for people who don't read the instructions, and it not
for neeobs


On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:46:10 -0400, "Comp Guy" wrote:

I told bootvis to trace. After my computer restarted, nothing
happened.
I
decided to get rid of bootvis, so I tried to uninstalled it.
The uninstall messed up, and wouldn't work again, so I went through,
deleting as many bootvis files and registry entries as possible.
Now, a file called trace.log in the c:\windows\system32\logfiles\wmi
is
there and I can't delete it. It grows at about 1 mb a second. When I
try
to delete it, it tells me that it is in use. So I boot to safe mode,
but
I
still get the same error when I try to delete it.

Thanks, but that article doesn't apply.
I don't have HT, and the Trace file isn't corrupt or damaged, it just grows
and can't be deleted.

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"johnf" wrote in message
...
Did you have a look at -
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;821581
It appears that there is a problem with Bootvis under certain
circumstances
and it also implies that they may sort you out for free.

--
John

How am I supposed to tell it to stop tracing, if it's not installed,
and it won't let me install it?

--
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"Frank" wrote in message
...
mrtree & bill james DID tell you how to fix it. Why not just ignore
what you don't like and take the advice ?
Frank

"Comp Guy" wrote in message
...
To all who replied, I wasn't asking how I screwed up, I was asking
how to fix it.
If your going to tell me that I messed up, at least say how to fix it.
Don't be trollish.

--
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------
"Comp Guy" wrote in message
...
I told bootvis to trace. After my computer restarted, nothing
happened. I decided to get rid of bootvis, so I tried to uninstalled
it.
The uninstall messed up, and wouldn't work again, so I went through,
deleting as many bootvis files and registry entries as possible.
Now, a file called trace.log in the c:\windows\system32\logfiles\wmi
is there and I can't delete it. It grows at about 1 mb a second.
When I try to delete it, it tells me that it is in use. So I boot
to safe mode, but I still get the same error when I try to delete it.


--
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I think you've forgotten that you originally said "I told bootvis to trace.
After my computer restarted, nothing happened"

That's why I posted the link!

--
John

Thanks, but that article doesn't apply.
I don't have HT, and the Trace file isn't corrupt or damaged, it just
grows and can't be deleted.

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"johnf" wrote in message
...
Did you have a look at -
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;821581
It appears that there is a problem with Bootvis under certain
circumstances and it also implies that they may sort you out for free.

--
John

How am I supposed to tell it to stop tracing, if it's not installed,
and it won't let me install it?

--
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"Frank" wrote in message
...
mrtree & bill james DID tell you how to fix it. Why not just ignore
what you don't like and take the advice ?
Frank

"Comp Guy" wrote in message
...
To all who replied, I wasn't asking how I screwed up, I was asking
how to fix it.
If your going to tell me that I messed up, at least say how to fix
it. Don't be trollish.

--
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------
"Comp Guy" wrote in message
...
I told bootvis to trace. After my computer restarted, nothing
happened. I decided to get rid of bootvis, so I tried to
uninstalled it.
The uninstall messed up, and wouldn't work again, so I went
through, deleting as many bootvis files and registry entries as
possible. Now, a file called trace.log in the
c:\windows\system32\logfiles\wmi is there and I can't delete it.
It grows at about 1 mb a second. When I try to delete it, it tells
me that it is in use. So I boot to safe mode, but I still get the
same error when I try to delete it.


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You weren't that constructive towards the problem either. Have a look at my
next post further down the thread (posted an hour before yours)

--
John
So far you and John f have scolded the guy...but neither of you have
said a damn thing about HELPING him. Both you guys are assholes. Hope
you're happy with yourselves.


"mrtee" wrote in message
...
Did you even bother to read the white (instructions) paper that is on
the same page as the download was?

I think that you have somehow turned on a trace file in
W(indows)M(anagement)I(nstrumentation). Administration tools.

Bootvis only runs when you tell it to. It is a tool for developers to
view driver load times. XP does what Bootvis does on its own every 3
days.

--
Just my ¢ worth
Jeff
__________in response to__________
"Comp Guy" wrote in message
...
Well how else am I supposed to get rid of a program that won't
uninstall by itself?

I hope not everyone in this NG is a rude as you. Do you just waste
your time demeaning people?

--
Please be polite.
------

Hmm... So you're rude to people who reply to your postings (OK, they were
less than polite themselves ), but then you ask people to be polite in your
sig? That's makes a LOT of sense.... Really, if you want help then you do
need to calm down somewhat... If people are less than helpfull, just ignore
their posts instead of starting a flame war.

Now, as to your problem. If you manually uninstalled BootVis whilst it was
still logging, then that explains why the log is still building itself, even
though it appears BootVis is not there anymore. It also explains why you
are unable to reinstall it as the files it's trying to overwrite are
currently in use. Your best bet is to look in the Services applet (control
panel - administrative tools - services) and see if there is a logging
service running, or any services to do with BootVis. Stop them and then see
if the logfile will delete. You should then try reinstalling BootVis,
disable ALL tracing options, and then uninstall it.

If none of that works, try a system restore back to before you first
installed BootVis which should solve the problem for you. If neither of
these work, then you may be forced to do a reinstall. Unfortunately, (and
I'm NOT being rude here), this can be the price you pay for using tools like
these without reading the documentation carefully. BootVis is not intended
for anyone who is unsure what they're doing...

Lorne


"Comp Guy" wrote in message
...
Go to hell.
Is that all you can do in your life, criticise other people?
If your not going to use these NGs to help, then f**k off.

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"Name withheld by request" wrote in message
...
Comp Guy, try Format c:\
Put the XP CD in your tray, reboot and reload...
It's not a file for people who don't read the instructions, and it not
for neeobs


On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:46:10 -0400, "Comp Guy" wrote:

I told bootvis to trace. After my computer restarted, nothing
happened.
I
decided to get rid of bootvis, so I tried to uninstalled it.
The uninstall messed up, and wouldn't work again, so I went through,
deleting as many bootvis files and registry entries as possible.
Now, a file called trace.log in the c:\windows\system32\logfiles\wmi
is
there and I can't delete it. It grows at about 1 mb a second. When I
try
to delete it, it tells me that it is in use. So I boot to safe mode,
but
I
still get the same error when I try to delete it.

You are not only rude, a breaker of USNET convention with all of this
cross-posting you are also way too impatient.

You were way too impatient when failing to give BootVis an oportunity to
finish its trace - look at the HD LED if you don't think it's working! You
were impatient with the un-install - would assume BootVis was still at work
tracing when you tried to remove it. You were extremely impatient when you
cludged your registry and now you are extremely impatient... and hostile
because people are pointing this out (hopefully to help you to prevent doing
the same error again) and can't provide a "magical" cure to your
self-induced dilema!

Even if there were those who told you to go into recovery console, run
attrib if necessary and delete the file from there (under quasi-DOS so it
wouldn't be in use) you would still gripe because it's to difficult, you
don't know DOS test commands or you don't have an XP CD!!

Some people just want to gripe! You won't be wasting my bandwidth any
further as I'm giving you the *PLUNK* that you so richly deserve!

Bye...
Len

"Comp Guy" wrote in message
...
PMSL, I did you read the other posts?
I asked for help.
He tells me that I don't deserve help, and I should just wipe my drive.
Then I got angry and said, "Ok, so are you just going to be a jerk, or are
you going to help?
If the former, then go get a life.
If the later, thank you."

So how am I giving all this attitude?

How was a arrogant?
And yes, maybe saying that someone is a jerk is rude, but why would I call
them a jerk in the first place? (Rhetorical question)


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"Bill James" wrote in message
...
Why would anyone want to continue trying to help a person with an attitude
like yours? Arrogant and Rude, a very unpleasant combination.

--

Bill James
Microsoft Shell/UI

Win9x VBScript Utilities » www.billsway.com/vbspage/
Windows Tweaks & Tips » www.billsway.com/notes_public/

"Comp Guy" wrote in message
...
Ok, so are you just going to be a jerk, or are you going to help?
If the former, then go get a life.
If the later, thank you.

--
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------
"Name withheld by request" wrote in message
...
Comp Guy, try Format c:\
Put the XP CD in your tray, reboot and reload...
It's not a file for people who don't read the instructions, and it not
for neeobs


On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:46:10 -0400, "Comp Guy" wrote:

I told bootvis to trace. After my computer restarted, nothing
happened.
I
decided to get rid of bootvis, so I tried to uninstalled it.
The uninstall messed up, and wouldn't work again, so I went through,
deleting as many bootvis files and registry entries as possible.
Now, a file called trace.log in the c:\windows\system32\logfiles\wmi
is
there and I can't delete it. It grows at about 1 mb a second. When
I
try
to delete it, it tells me that it is in use. So I boot to safe mode,
but
I
still get the same error when I try to delete it.

I downloaded it from another site, which didn't have instructions on it.
And Bootvis' help isn't exactly helpful ).

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"mrtee" wrote in message
...
Did you even bother to read the white (instructions) paper that is on the
same page as the download was?

I think that you have somehow turned on a trace file in
W(indows)M(anagement)I(nstrumentation). Administration tools.

Bootvis only runs when you tell it to. It is a tool for developers to view
driver load times. XP does what Bootvis does on its own every 3 days.

--
Just my ¢ worth
Jeff
__________in response to__________
"Comp Guy" wrote in message
...
| Well how else am I supposed to get rid of a program that won't uninstall
by
| itself?
|
| I hope not everyone in this NG is a rude as you. Do you just waste your
| time demeaning people?
|
| --
| Please be polite.
| ------

Where was I supposed to read? The download site (non-ms, as ms no longer
offers bootvis), didn't offer any instructions, and bootvis help wasn't
exactly helpful.

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"Bill James" wrote in message
...
A minute reading ahead of time would have avoided this problem for you.
When you asked Bootvis to trace boot time, it will continue to do that until
you go back and run it again to view the results. At that point you can
disable logging and delete the log file.

--

Bill James
Microsoft Shell/UI

Win9x VBScript Utilities » www.billsway.com/vbspage/
Windows Tweaks & Tips » www.billsway.com/notes_public/

"Comp Guy" wrote in message
...
I told bootvis to trace. After my computer restarted, nothing happened.
I
decided to get rid of bootvis, so I tried to uninstalled it.
The uninstall messed up, and wouldn't work again, so I went through,
deleting as many bootvis files and registry entries as possible.
Now, a file called trace.log in the c:\windows\system32\logfiles\wmi is
there and I can't delete it. It grows at about 1 mb a second. When I try
to delete it, it tells me that it is in use. So I boot to safe mode, but
I
still get the same error when I try to delete it.


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See below...

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"Lorne Smith" wrote in message
...
Hmm... So you're rude to people who reply to your postings (OK, they were
less than polite themselves ), but then you ask people to be polite in
your
sig?

My sig says "Please be polite" not "Please be polite, and I will stay polite
if you're rude"

That's makes a LOT of sense.... Really, if you want help then you do
need to calm down somewhat... If people are less than helpfull, just
ignore
their posts instead of starting a flame war.

Now, as to your problem. If you manually uninstalled BootVis whilst it
was
still logging, then that explains why the log is still building itself,
even
though it appears BootVis is not there anymore. It also explains why you
are unable to reinstall it as the files it's trying to overwrite are
currently in use. Your best bet is to look in the Services applet
(control
panel - administrative tools - services) and see if there is a logging
service running, or any services to do with BootVis. Stop them and then
see
if the logfile will delete. You should then try reinstalling BootVis,
disable ALL tracing options, and then uninstall it.


Thanks for that usefull pointer, I tried it, with no success. I'm going to
try Len's advice and use the recovery console.

If none of that works, try a system restore back to before you first
installed BootVis which should solve the problem for you.

Because BV ate up so much space, SR erased my restore points

If neither of
these work, then you may be forced to do a reinstall. Unfortunately, (and
I'm NOT being rude here), this can be the price you pay for using tools
like
these without reading the documentation carefully. BootVis is not
intended
for anyone who is unsure what they're doing...

Thank you for that polite advice. However, the site I downloaded it from,
had no instructions or warnings.

I'll let you know if Len's advice works.


Lorne


"Comp Guy" wrote in message
...
Go to hell.
Is that all you can do in your life, criticise other people?
If your not going to use these NGs to help, then f**k off.

--
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"Name withheld by request" wrote in message
...
Comp Guy, try Format c:\
Put the XP CD in your tray, reboot and reload...
It's not a file for people who don't read the instructions, and it not
for neeobs


On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:46:10 -0400, "Comp Guy" wrote:

I told bootvis to trace. After my computer restarted, nothing
happened.
I
decided to get rid of bootvis, so I tried to uninstalled it.
The uninstall messed up, and wouldn't work again, so I went through,
deleting as many bootvis files and registry entries as possible.
Now, a file called trace.log in the c:\windows\system32\logfiles\wmi
is
there and I can't delete it. It grows at about 1 mb a second. When
I
try
to delete it, it tells me that it is in use. So I boot to safe mode,
but
I
still get the same error when I try to delete it.

On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 01:20:46 -0400, Comp Guy wrote:

Thanks, but that article doesn't apply.
I don't have HT, and the Trace file isn't corrupt or damaged, it just grows
and can't be deleted.

Restart Bootvis and use its menus to turn off tracing. Restart. Then delete
the tracelog file.

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP - Windows XP Shell/User

http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/hwdev/...tboot/fastboo=
t-winxp.mspx the "missing" instructions link.

--=20
Just my =A2 worth
Jeff

Well you didn't exactly remove it properly did you. You don't know exactly
what files were installed onto your system and what registry files were
written do you?
"Comp Guy" wrote in message
...
and one last question, if I removed it from my computer, then why is it
still tracing?

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"Comp Guy" wrote in message
...
As well, when I try to reinstall it, I get the error,
The configuration data for this product is corrupt.
Contact your support personnel.

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"Comp Guy" wrote in message
...
To all who replied, I wasn't asking how I screwed up, I was asking how
to
fix it.
If your going to tell me that I messed up, at least say how to fix it.
Don't be trollish.

--
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"Comp Guy" wrote in message
...
I told bootvis to trace. After my computer restarted, nothing
happened.
I
decided to get rid of bootvis, so I tried to uninstalled it.
The uninstall messed up, and wouldn't work again, so I went through,
deleting as many bootvis files and registry entries as possible.
Now, a file called trace.log in the c:\windows\system32\logfiles\wmi
is
there and I can't delete it. It grows at about 1 mb a second. When
I
try
to delete it, it tells me that it is in use. So I boot to safe
mode,
but
I
still get the same error when I try to delete it.


--
Please be polite.
------

Well you didn't exactly remove it properly did you. You don't know exactly
what files were installed onto your system and what registry files were
written do you?
"Comp Guy" wrote in message
...
and one last question, if I removed it from my computer, then why is it
still tracing?

--
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------
"Comp Guy" wrote in message
...
As well, when I try to reinstall it, I get the error,
The configuration data for this product is corrupt.
Contact your support personnel.

--
Please be polite.
------
"Comp Guy" wrote in message
...
To all who replied, I wasn't asking how I screwed up, I was asking how
to
fix it.
If your going to tell me that I messed up, at least say how to fix it.
Don't be trollish.

--
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"Comp Guy" wrote in message
...
I told bootvis to trace. After my computer restarted, nothing
happened.
I
decided to get rid of bootvis, so I tried to uninstalled it.
The uninstall messed up, and wouldn't work again, so I went through,
deleting as many bootvis files and registry entries as possible.
Now, a file called trace.log in the c:\windows\system32\logfiles\wmi
is
there and I can't delete it. It grows at about 1 mb a second. When
I
try
to delete it, it tells me that it is in use. So I boot to safe
mode,
but
I
still get the same error when I try to delete it.


--
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