registry

Age has nothing to do with his attitude, he was probably as full of it
when he was 20 years old. Nice people grow old gracefully, jerks become
cranky old farts!

Unknown wrote:

Getting frustrated? You should be with your twisted thinking. Out of
curiosity how old are you?
" db.·.. ))) ·` .. ." databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com wrote
in message ...

oh, just shut up.

MVP's are nothing
more than people
with ego's and unpaid
help for the microsoft
corporation.

where do you get you
information that mvp's
are experts?

is there a college degree
or certification for being
an mvp?

perhaps, you should further
review what qualifies anyone
to become an mvp.

--

db·´¯`·...¸)))º

"Marianne" wrote in message
...

Twayne wrote:

Twayne wrote:

Reply below.
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

"A Day in the Life of a Web 2.0 Hacker" - PC Magazine
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2330952,00.asp

John John (MVP) wrote:

Twayne wrote:


answered inline

Claire Brucker wrote:


Just what is the registry?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Registry



Does it need regular cleaning? If so,
how do you clean it?

No. In fact - if you have to ask what tthe registry is (even
after you learn it and can explain it to others) - the registry
is better left alone except in particular cases where you are
following specific instructions to add or remove specific things.

That's a little condescending, don't you think? Especially
considering the stated purpose of the post was to find out WHAT
the registry is?

You never answered either question, although you gave a long
boilerplate spew about the perceived dangers of registry cleaners.
Your only purpose in answering thus had to be self-serving, with
no consideration of helping the OP.

The OP asked three questions:

1- Just what is the registry?
2- Does it need regular cleaning?
3- If so, how do you clean it?

Shenan aswered questions 1 & 2, question 3 does not need an answer
because the registry does not need cleaning.

John

I would steer clear of Twayne. S/He's on this crusade over registry
cleaners and won't be denied.

The "crusade" is really about misinformation; in this case against
closed minded zealots who refuse to verify/clarify/validate their
claims in any way. His adamancy is bolstered by absolutely nothing
based in fact and reality around the issue. Otherwise he would
either accept the challenge or admit to the "evidence" and other
things I've provided him over the last couple of years and tried to
convince me otherwise with facts rather than blind proclamations. When
one becomes that closed minded they become dangerous to anyone
who might listen to them because they don't reason things out.

If these cleaners are so darn good why are none of the MVPs or other
experts recommending them? It's quite a stretch for us to think that
you are right and that all the others who have a wealth of experience
and an immense collective amount of expertise are all wrong! The fact
is that there are only two or three persons here who think these
cleaners are worthwhile and all the others think that they provide
little to no benefits and that they do at times cause great damage. We
do see people posting reports of problems that they have had after
using these cleaners, these posters are not zealots with closed mind
trying to obfuscate the issues, they are real people with real
problems caused by those cleaners. I will take my advice from the
pros and not use these products, I have used them in the past but now
my own experience tells me that they do nothing at all to improve
performance and reading posts from those who have problems after
using these programs is enough to convince me that the pros are right
and that you are wrong.
M

Your ability to count is certainly lacking.

Maybe you are right, I said that only two or three persons in these
groups recommend these utilities, in reality there are only two persons
who recommend them, you and that horrible person who goes by the initials
"db". db is suffering from disillusions, he now thinks that he knows
more about these things than Dr. Russinovich!

As for your comments about MVPs all I can say is that they certainly know
more about Windows than you or I do so I'll take their word before yours.
I said that "none of the MVPs or other experts" are recommending these
cleaners, the "other experts" includes all the other very knowledgeable
persons here who aren't MVPs, I don't see any of them supporting your
position so please excuse me but I think that you are wrong about these
cleaners.

M

db.·.. ))) ·` .. . wrote:
advocating the advice of others
because one lacks skills for
validating the crap being fed
to morons is simply moronic,

I would normally ignore stuff like this on principle, but I couldn't
resist the old childish jibe: "It takes one to know one".

--
Steve Swift
http://www.swiftys.org.uk/swifty.html
http://www.ringers.org.uk

There-in lies the problem. I don't think he is 20 years old yet. He's just
trying to make an impression albeit erroneously.
IE He hasn't learned yet.
"John John (MVP)" wrote in message
...
Age has nothing to do with his attitude, he was probably as full of it
when he was 20 years old. Nice people grow old gracefully, jerks become
cranky old farts!

Unknown wrote:

Getting frustrated? You should be with your twisted thinking. Out of
curiosity how old are you?
" db.·.. ))) ·` .. ." databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com
wrote in message ...

oh, just shut up.

MVP's are nothing
more than people
with ego's and unpaid
help for the microsoft
corporation.

where do you get you
information that mvp's
are experts?

is there a college degree
or certification for being
an mvp?

perhaps, you should further
review what qualifies anyone
to become an mvp.

--

db·´¯`·...¸)))º

"Marianne" wrote in message
...

Twayne wrote:

Twayne wrote:

Reply below.
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

"A Day in the Life of a Web 2.0 Hacker" - PC Magazine
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2330952,00.asp

John John (MVP) wrote:

Twayne wrote:


answered inline

Claire Brucker wrote:


Just what is the registry?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Registry



Does it need regular cleaning? If so,
how do you clean it?

No. In fact - if you have to ask what tthe registry is (even
after you learn it and can explain it to others) - the registry
is better left alone except in particular cases where you are
following specific instructions to add or remove specific things.

That's a little condescending, don't you think? Especially
considering the stated purpose of the post was to find out WHAT
the registry is?

You never answered either question, although you gave a long
boilerplate spew about the perceived dangers of registry cleaners.
Your only purpose in answering thus had to be self-serving, with
no consideration of helping the OP.

The OP asked three questions:

1- Just what is the registry?
2- Does it need regular cleaning?
3- If so, how do you clean it?

Shenan aswered questions 1 & 2, question 3 does not need an answer
because the registry does not need cleaning.

John

I would steer clear of Twayne. S/He's on this crusade over registry
cleaners and won't be denied.

The "crusade" is really about misinformation; in this case against
closed minded zealots who refuse to verify/clarify/validate their
claims in any way. His adamancy is bolstered by absolutely nothing
based in fact and reality around the issue. Otherwise he would
either accept the challenge or admit to the "evidence" and other
things I've provided him over the last couple of years and tried to
convince me otherwise with facts rather than blind proclamations.
When one becomes that closed minded they become dangerous to anyone
who might listen to them because they don't reason things out.

If these cleaners are so darn good why are none of the MVPs or other
experts recommending them? It's quite a stretch for us to think that
you are right and that all the others who have a wealth of experience
and an immense collective amount of expertise are all wrong! The fact
is that there are only two or three persons here who think these
cleaners are worthwhile and all the others think that they provide
little to no benefits and that they do at times cause great damage. We
do see people posting reports of problems that they have had after
using these cleaners, these posters are not zealots with closed mind
trying to obfuscate the issues, they are real people with real
problems caused by those cleaners. I will take my advice from the
pros and not use these products, I have used them in the past but now
my own experience tells me that they do nothing at all to improve
performance and reading posts from those who have problems after
using these programs is enough to convince me that the pros are right
and that you are wrong.
M

Your ability to count is certainly lacking.

Maybe you are right, I said that only two or three persons in these
groups recommend these utilities, in reality there are only two persons
who recommend them, you and that horrible person who goes by the
initials "db". db is suffering from disillusions, he now thinks that he
knows more about these things than Dr. Russinovich!

As for your comments about MVPs all I can say is that they certainly
know more about Windows than you or I do so I'll take their word before
yours. I said that "none of the MVPs or other experts" are recommending
these cleaners, the "other experts" includes all the other very
knowledgeable persons here who aren't MVPs, I don't see any of them
supporting your position so please excuse me but I think that you are
wrong about these cleaners.

M

the truth of the matter
is, that you do not normally
ignore stuff like this.

so don't flatter yourself.

--

db·´¯`·...¸)))º

"Swifty" wrote in message ...
db.·.. ))) ·` .. . wrote:
advocating the advice of others
because one lacks skills for
validating the crap being fed
to morons is simply moronic,

I would normally ignore stuff like this on principle, but I couldn't resist the old childish jibe: "It takes one to know one".

--
Steve Swift
http://www.swiftys.org.uk/swifty.html
http://www.ringers.org.uk

....

Maybe you are right, I said that only two or three persons in these

No, that's text that is nowhere in any of the above quoted material nor
anything I recall from a previous comment either.

groups recommend these utilities, in reality there are only two
persons who recommend them, you and that horrible person who goes by
the initials "db". db is suffering from disillusions, he now thinks
that he knows more about these things than Dr. Russinovich!

1. I have NOT recommended them. But I also never said they were "snake
oil" or anything else that they are not. You apparently cannot read.
2. I don't know or care about "db". I only care about misinformaiton
here, which is something you ignorantly have chosen to assist with by
taking on the form of sock puppet.

As for your comments about MVPs all I can say is that they certainly
know more about Windows than you or I do so I'll take their word

1. No, they do not know more than I do. In some areas I know more than
them, in other areas, they know more than me. But you in particular
have absolutely nothing, nada, zilch, as a way of knowing what anyone
here knows, other than yourself.
2. It matters not to me, whose word you take any longer since you
choose to believe things based on ... hmm, I don't know WHAT you based
your decision on; nothing valid, that's nearly certain.

before yours. I said that "none of the MVPs or other experts" are
recommending these cleaners,

"none", huh? Have you communicated with every existing MVP? Or are you
taking the ignorant tact that there are more saying "this", so it has to
be true.
"
Wrong does not cease to be wrong
because the majority share in it. -Tolstoy
"
comes to mind; nothing new.

the "other experts" includes all the

And how do you know who the "other experts" are? I dare say I doubt you
even know the area of expertise that any particular MVP here received
his letter from MS for would be. I'll go even further and say that you
don't yet know what an MVP is, or what the letters in this context stand
for. Taking even one more leap, I suspect you may not even know what
the word "expert" actually means, nor how it applies to anyone else
here. It does not mean that the person knows all there is to know about
windows or XP.

other very knowledgeable persons here who aren't MVPs, I don't see
any of them supporting your position so please excuse me but I think
that you are wrong about these cleaners.

lol, no excuses necessary. People who like to parrot and join the the
majority for no good reason are a dime a dozen. I will however
congratulate you on having moved from my opinion of being a thinking
individual to one that has to parrot or be sock pupeted to function
well. Hold onto that ego; you're going to need it. I notice you've
managed to quiver your liver quite a bit in other posts here; have fun.

M

T

MVPs don't take *tests*

So correct it, use whatever word you like or even the corrected one for
showing proficiency in a certain area that MVPs use to show their
proficiency. Or don't you know? I do.



"Twayne" wrote in message
...
Twayne wrote:
Reply below.
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

"A Day in the Life of a Web 2.0 Hacker" - PC Magazine
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2330952,00.asp

John John (MVP) wrote:
Twayne wrote:

answered inline

Claire Brucker wrote:

Just what is the registry?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Registry


Does it need regular cleaning? If so,
how do you clean it?
No. In fact - if you have to ask what tthe registry is (even
after you learn it and can explain it to others) - the registry
is better left alone except in particular cases where you are
following specific instructions to add or remove specific
things.

That's a little condescending, don't you think? Especially
considering the stated purpose of the post was to find out WHAT
the registry is?

You never answered either question, although you gave a long
boilerplate spew about the perceived dangers of registry
cleaners. Your only purpose in answering thus had to be
self-serving, with no consideration of helping the OP.
The OP asked three questions:

1- Just what is the registry?
2- Does it need regular cleaning?
3- If so, how do you clean it?

Shenan aswered questions 1 & 2, question 3 does not need an
answer because the registry does not need cleaning.

John
I would steer clear of Twayne. S/He's on this crusade over
registry cleaners and won't be denied.

The "crusade" is really about misinformation; in this case against
closed minded zealots who refuse to verify/clarify/validate their
claims in any way. His adamancy is bolstered by absolutely nothing
based in fact and reality around the issue. Otherwise he would
either accept the challenge or admit to the "evidence" and other
things I've provided him over the last couple of years and tried to
convince me otherwise with facts rather than blind proclamations.
When one becomes that closed minded they become dangerous to anyone
who might listen to them because they don't reason things out.

If these cleaners are so darn good why are none of the MVPs or other
experts recommending them? It's quite a stretch for us to think
that you are right and that all the others who have a wealth of
experience and an immense collective amount of expertise are all
wrong! The fact is that there are only two or three persons here
who think these cleaners are worthwhile and all the others think
that they provide little to no benefits and that they do at times
cause great damage. We do see people posting reports of problems
that they have had after using these cleaners, these posters are
not zealots with closed mind trying to obfuscate the issues, they
are real people with real problems caused by those cleaners. I
will take my advice from the pros and not use these products, I
have used them in the past but now my own experience tells me that
they do nothing at all to improve performance and reading posts
from those who have problems after using these programs is enough
to convince me that the pros are right and that you are wrong.
M

Your ability to count is certainly lacking. Also "MVP" means nothing
other than the fact that they passed a test and got the title handed
to them. It's easy enough to read about it on their site if you're
really interested. MVPs are also people; they are good, bad and
indifferent just like everyone else and there have been the
occasional bad apples and posers along the lines, too. Being an MVP
doesn't make one a "PRO", it simply means they demonstrated some
knownledge of whatever area of the computer they chose to take the
test in. Most anyone can become an MVP. That includes closed
minded people who have NO evidence for the things they post, and who
also never have shown any valid representation of what they are
claiming. Be cautious or you'll end up being a sock puppet for the
wrong person; it's easy to do if you're too gullible and don't
bother to verify the claims that anyone, not just MVPs, make on
groups and around the 'net. Actually, there is only one MVP with
the ignorance and ego to have to post years-old boilerplate about
registry software and says it's all "snake oil". Most of the other
MVPs are reasonable, thinking people who are intelligent and seldom
simply concentrate on only one application, registry cleaners, and
who will paint the entire world a single color. I tend to appreciate
MVPs when I know one has his certificate based on the area I may be
seeking assistance with. Some however, think that because they are
certified for networks say, also feel it enables them to hand out
misinformation in any area they wish to, whether it relates to their
area of expertise or not.

I have no problem with you or your opinion of the MVP situation;
that's your perogative. I do urge you however to verify information
and not just take it on blind faith because they put a title after
their name. I have a few titles too, but I don't find the need to
advertise them or worse yet use them as some kind of tool to make
people think I'm greater than I am. There are a couple of MVPs that
would do well to remember that for themselves, and to re-read their
"rules of the road" for MVPs. I won't but some people would report
them for almost any infraction. But I'm not out to punish; in tihs
case I'm only out to stop misinformation, which the "all registry
cleaners are bad" line is; it's pure bunk and the one touting that
line even knows it.

Regards,

Twayne

....

Your BS is no more useful than the BS of others although you seem to
think it is. Your long and tiresome posts and tirades advocating the
usefulness of Registry Cleaners are to most nothing other then
nonsense, surely even you must have detected that from the responses
you have received.

Not at all, although I have noted a considerable amount of ignorance.
Where's the proof? Let's see you post something useful to support your
parroting.


If Registry Cleaners are as useful as you seem to
think

I don't think; I know and I also know misinformation when I see it.

it would be very obvious to all and their usefulness would be
simply verifiable and no debate would be necessary, in fact that is
not the case. Further, I would think that those that market these
programs would by now have devised a very simple 'test' to show how
useful their programs are, as far as I know no such test or
demonstration of their efficacy exists. I know you have made such an
offer but you have no credibility. From your responses to your
critics it appears you must believe there exists some sort of
conspiracy to discredit these programs. Why would that be the case?
We all know by now how much you faith you have in these programs,
please give the 'unconverted' the courtesy to know you are totally
wrong in everything you have said on the subject.

Ahh, Tolstoy personified. Misinformation is bad. Parrots and sock
puppets are even worse. Actually, normally I wouldn't bother with
respoinding to tripe like this, but I had a few extra minutes tonite.
Be back ina few more days too probably but not sure you'll be one of the
ones I waste good information on. Even your pal Brucey Boy has no proof
of his postulations and prophecies; do you?

unfortunately for you
and the other morons
and trolls, i have analyzed
the registry files utilizing
database methodologies.

and it is a gaurantee that
for anyone who does not
maintain the registry either
manually or with a an auto-
mated software, "will" eventually
surcome to system failure.

advocating the advice of others
because one lacks skills for
validating the crap being fed
to morons is simply moronic,

I wouldn't go quite so far as to state it that way, but for the norm
it's certainly the case.





"Edward W. Thompson" wrote in message
...

"Twayne" wrote in message
...
Twayne wrote:
Reply below.
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

"A Day in the Life of a Web 2.0 Hacker" - PC Magazine
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2330952,00.asp

John John (MVP) wrote:
Twayne wrote:

answered inline

Claire Brucker wrote:

Just what is the registry?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Registry


Does it need regular cleaning? If so,
how do you clean it?
No. In fact - if you have to ask what tthe registry is (even
after you learn it and can explain it to others) - the
registry is better left alone except in particular cases
where you are following specific instructions to add or
remove specific things.

That's a little condescending, don't you think? Especially
considering the stated purpose of the post was to find out WHAT
the registry is?

You never answered either question, although you gave a long
boilerplate spew about the perceived dangers of registry
cleaners. Your only purpose in answering thus had to be
self-serving, with no consideration of helping the OP.
The OP asked three questions:

1- Just what is the registry?
2- Does it need regular cleaning?
3- If so, how do you clean it?

Shenan aswered questions 1 & 2, question 3 does not need an
answer because the registry does not need cleaning.

John
I would steer clear of Twayne. S/He's on this crusade over
registry cleaners and won't be denied.

The "crusade" is really about misinformation; in this case against
closed minded zealots who refuse to verify/clarify/validate their
claims in any way. His adamancy is bolstered by absolutely
nothing based in fact and reality around the issue. Otherwise he
would
either accept the challenge or admit to the "evidence" and other
things I've provided him over the last couple of years and tried
to convince me otherwise with facts rather than blind
proclamations.
When one becomes that closed minded they become dangerous to
anyone who might listen to them because they don't reason things
out.

If these cleaners are so darn good why are none of the MVPs or
other experts recommending them? It's quite a stretch for us to
think
that you are right and that all the others who have a wealth of
experience and an immense collective amount of expertise are all
wrong! The
fact is that there are only two or three persons here who think
these
cleaners are worthwhile and all the others think that they provide
little to no benefits and that they do at times cause great
damage. We do see people posting reports of problems that they
have had after using these cleaners, these posters are not zealots
with closed
mind trying to obfuscate the issues, they are real people with real
problems caused by those cleaners. I will take my advice from the
pros and not use these products, I have used them in the past but
now my own experience tells me that they do nothing at all to
improve
performance and reading posts from those who have problems after
using these programs is enough to convince me that the pros are
right and that you are wrong.
M

Your ability to count is certainly lacking. Also "MVP" means
nothing other than the fact that they passed a test and got the
title handed to them. It's easy enough to read about it on their
site if you're really interested. MVPs are also people; they are
good, bad and indifferent just like everyone else and there have
been the occasional bad apples and posers along the lines, too.
Being an MVP doesn't make one a "PRO", it simply means they
demonstrated some knownledge of whatever area of the computer they
chose to take the test in. Most anyone can become an MVP. That
includes closed minded people who have NO evidence for the things
they post, and who also never have shown any valid representation
of what they are claiming. Be cautious or you'll end up being a
sock puppet for the wrong person; it's easy to do if you're too
gullible and don't bother to verify the claims that anyone, not
just MVPs, make on groups and around the 'net. Actually, there is
only one MVP with the ignorance and ego to have to post years-old
boilerplate about registry software and says it's all "snake oil".
Most of the other MVPs are reasonable, thinking people who are
intelligent and seldom simply concentrate on only one application,
registry cleaners, and who will paint the entire world a single
color. I tend to appreciate MVPs when I know one has his
certificate based on the area I may be seeking assistance with. Some
however, think that because they are certified for networks
say, also feel it enables them to hand out misinformation in any
area they wish to, whether it relates to their area of expertise or
not. I have no problem with you or your opinion of the
MVP situation;
that's your perogative. I do urge you however to verify
information and not just take it on blind faith because they put a
title after their name. I have a few titles too, but I don't find
the need to advertise them or worse yet use them as some kind of
tool to make people think I'm greater than I am. There are a couple
of MVPs that would do well to remember that for themselves, and to
re-read their "rules of the road" for MVPs. I won't but some
people would report them for almost any infraction. But I'm not
out to punish; in tihs case I'm only out to stop misinformation,
which the "all registry cleaners are bad" line is; it's pure bunk
and the one touting that line even knows it. Regards,

Twayne

Your BS is no more useful than the BS of others although you seem to
think it is. Your long and tiresome posts and tirades advocating
the usefulness of Registry Cleaners are to most nothing other then
nonsense, surely even you must have detected that from the responses
you have received. If Registry Cleaners are as useful as you seem
to think it would be very obvious to all and their usefulness would
be simply verifiable and no debate would be necessary, in fact that
is not the case. Further, I would think that those that market
these programs would by now have devised a very simple 'test' to
show how useful their programs are, as far as I know no such test or
demonstration of their efficacy exists. I know you have made such
an offer but you have no credibility. From your responses to your
critics it appears you must believe there exists some sort of
conspiracy to discredit these programs. Why would that be the case?

We all know by now how much you faith you have in these programs,
please give the 'unconverted' the courtesy to know you are totally
wrong in everything you have said on the subject.

What crock of malarchy! You don't know anything at all about the
registry, the BS is coming out of your ears sideways!

Wishful thinking? Why don't you give us some idea of what YOU know?
What's YOUR level of expertise? What makes it so that YOU know he
speaks malarky? How do you know he doesn't know anything? You don't;
that's obvious. Now come in, impress us with YOUR knowledge.


db.·.. ))) ·` .. . wrote:
unfortunately for you
and the other morons
and trolls, i have analyzed
the registry files utilizing
database methodologies.

and it is a gaurantee that
for anyone who does not
maintain the registry either
manually or with a an auto-
mated software, "will" eventually
surcome to system failure.

advocating the advice of others
because one lacks skills for
validating the crap being fed
to morons is simply moronic,

And it would almost be sad, if it weren't so pathetic.

What: The crock of malarky comment? I agree. Do you read as well as
you write?


John John (MVP) wrote:
What crock of malarchy! You don't know anything at all about the
registry, the BS is coming out of your ears sideways!

db.·.. ))) ·` .. . wrote:
unfortunately for you
and the other morons
and trolls, i have analyzed
the registry files utilizing
database methodologies.

and it is a gaurantee that
for anyone who does not
maintain the registry either
manually or with a an auto-
mated software, "will" eventually
surcome to system failure.

advocating the advice of others
because one lacks skills for
validating the crap being fed
to morons is simply moronic,

Unknown wrote:
What specifically is your background with computers?




Judging by the apparent maturity level of most of his posts, he sneaks
onto his parents' system whenever they're out of the house.


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killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot

Twayne wrote:


Your ability to count is certainly lacking.

Not nearly as lacking as is your knowledge of the MVP program.

Also "MVP" means nothing
other than the fact that they passed a test and got the title handed to
them.


Totally incorrect. There is no test. The MVP title is an award for
having consistently offering accurate and helpful technical advice for
the past year.


It's easy enough to read about it on their site if you're really
interested.


Which you've clearly not done. Either that or you're deliberately lying.


MVPs are also people; they are good, bad and indifferent
just like everyone else and there have been the occasional bad apples
and posers along the lines, too.


Yes, MVPs are human, and can make mistakes. While some are more
stubborn then others, all that I've ever known will correct their
responses after a mistake has been pointed out.


Being an MVP doesn't make one a "PRO", ...


Not necessarily, no. Nevertheless, many are IT professionals.


... it simply means they demonstrated some knownledge of whatever area of
the computer they chose to take the test in.


Again, there is no test. The award is based solely on proven past
performance.


Most anyone can become an
MVP.


If they offer consistently accurate and helpful technical advice, yes.


That includes closed minded people who have NO evidence for the
things they post,


Then why aren't *you* an MVP? You've certainly *NEVER* offered any
evidence to support your claims about the benefits of using registry
cleaners. The most you've ever done, when challenged, has been to offer
links to worthless and weak marketing/advertising copy.

Remaining drivel snipped.....


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Twayne wrote:

What crock of malarchy! You don't know anything at all about the
registry, the BS is coming out of your ears sideways!


Wishful thinking? Why don't you give us some idea of what YOU know?
What's YOUR level of expertise? What makes it so that YOU know he
speaks malarky? How do you know he doesn't know anything? You don't;
that's obvious. Now come in, impress us with YOUR knowledge.

It is a crock of malarchy! The registry will not "eventually
surcome to system failure unless you maintain the registry either
manually or with a an auto-mated software", that is pure fiction! I
have some machines at work that are almost 10 years old and we never
bother with the registry and those machines have not "surcome" [sic] to
failure! But then it isn't very surprising that db would say something
like that, he's the one who claims that the registry "collects data" and
that "if you leave a computer running 24/7 the registry will collect too
much data and crash".

And you're the not so bright one who claims that merging files to the
registry creates duplicate entries, something that is absolutely
impossible! The two of you together are no smarter than a bag of ball
pein hammers! Go preach your cleaner gospel somewhere else to those who
care to listen, no one here believes a word of the nonsense that the two
of you are spreading.

John

db.·.. ))) ·` .. . wrote:
oh, just shut up.

That is always your answer to those who disagree with you. Maybe you
should be the one to shut up as you hardly ever have anything of value
to contribute in any of your posts.


MVP's are nothing
more than people
with ego's and unpaid
help for the microsoft
corporation.

where do you get you
information that mvp's
are experts?

is there a college degree
or certification for being
an mvp?

What would it matter if they did have certifications? You would still
claim to know more and better than they do. Dr. Russinovich holds B.S.
and Ph.D. degrees in computer engineering and he is a foremost Windows
expert yet you toss his certifications and expertise aside and you try
to pretend that you know more than he does. I expect that you will soon
claim to also know more about Windows XP than both Bill Gates and Dave
Cutler collectively do and that you are also smarter than both Albert
Einstein and Stephen Hawking!

perhaps, you should further
review what qualifies anyone
to become an mvp.

"Microsoft Most Valuable Professionals (MVPs) are exceptional technical
community leaders from around the world who are awarded for voluntarily
sharing their high quality, real world expertise in offline and online
technical communities. Microsoft MVPs are a highly select group of
experts that represents the technical community's best and brightest,
and they share a deep commitment to community and a willingness to help
others."

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/

That is a lot more than you have ever demonstrated in any of your posts!

M

I am a MVP, I know how it works.

"Twayne" wrote in message
...
: MVPs don't take *tests*
:
: So correct it, use whatever word you like or even the corrected one for
: showing proficiency in a certain area that MVPs use to show their
: proficiency. Or don't you know? I do.
:
:
:
: "Twayne" wrote in message
: ...
: Twayne wrote:
: Reply below.
: ---
: Leonard Grey
: Errare humanum est
:
: "A Day in the Life of a Web 2.0 Hacker" - PC Magazine
: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2330952,00.asp
:
: John John (MVP) wrote:
: Twayne wrote:
:
: answered inline
:
: Claire Brucker wrote:
:
: Just what is the registry?
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Registry
:
:
: Does it need regular cleaning? If so,
: how do you clean it?
: No. In fact - if you have to ask what tthe registry is (even
: after you learn it and can explain it to others) - the registry
: is better left alone except in particular cases where you are
: following specific instructions to add or remove specific
: things.
:
: That's a little condescending, don't you think? Especially
: considering the stated purpose of the post was to find out WHAT
: the registry is?
:
: You never answered either question, although you gave a long
: boilerplate spew about the perceived dangers of registry
: cleaners. Your only purpose in answering thus had to be
: self-serving, with no consideration of helping the OP.
: The OP asked three questions:
:
: 1- Just what is the registry?
: 2- Does it need regular cleaning?
: 3- If so, how do you clean it?
:
: Shenan aswered questions 1 & 2, question 3 does not need an
: answer because the registry does not need cleaning.
:
: John
: I would steer clear of Twayne. S/He's on this crusade over
: registry cleaners and won't be denied.
:
: The "crusade" is really about misinformation; in this case against
: closed minded zealots who refuse to verify/clarify/validate their
: claims in any way. His adamancy is bolstered by absolutely nothing
: based in fact and reality around the issue. Otherwise he would
: either accept the challenge or admit to the "evidence" and other
: things I've provided him over the last couple of years and tried to
: convince me otherwise with facts rather than blind proclamations.
: When one becomes that closed minded they become dangerous to anyone
: who might listen to them because they don't reason things out.
:
: If these cleaners are so darn good why are none of the MVPs or other
: experts recommending them? It's quite a stretch for us to think
: that you are right and that all the others who have a wealth of
: experience and an immense collective amount of expertise are all
: wrong! The fact is that there are only two or three persons here
: who think these cleaners are worthwhile and all the others think
: that they provide little to no benefits and that they do at times
: cause great damage. We do see people posting reports of problems
: that they have had after using these cleaners, these posters are
: not zealots with closed mind trying to obfuscate the issues, they
: are real people with real problems caused by those cleaners. I
: will take my advice from the pros and not use these products, I
: have used them in the past but now my own experience tells me that
: they do nothing at all to improve performance and reading posts
: from those who have problems after using these programs is enough
: to convince me that the pros are right and that you are wrong.
: M
:
: Your ability to count is certainly lacking. Also "MVP" means nothing
: other than the fact that they passed a test and got the title handed
: to them. It's easy enough to read about it on their site if you're
: really interested. MVPs are also people; they are good, bad and
: indifferent just like everyone else and there have been the
: occasional bad apples and posers along the lines, too. Being an MVP
: doesn't make one a "PRO", it simply means they demonstrated some
: knownledge of whatever area of the computer they chose to take the
: test in. Most anyone can become an MVP. That includes closed
: minded people who have NO evidence for the things they post, and who
: also never have shown any valid representation of what they are
: claiming. Be cautious or you'll end up being a sock puppet for the
: wrong person; it's easy to do if you're too gullible and don't
: bother to verify the claims that anyone, not just MVPs, make on
: groups and around the 'net. Actually, there is only one MVP with
: the ignorance and ego to have to post years-old boilerplate about
: registry software and says it's all "snake oil". Most of the other
: MVPs are reasonable, thinking people who are intelligent and seldom
: simply concentrate on only one application, registry cleaners, and
: who will paint the entire world a single color. I tend to appreciate
: MVPs when I know one has his certificate based on the area I may be
: seeking assistance with. Some however, think that because they are
: certified for networks say, also feel it enables them to hand out
: misinformation in any area they wish to, whether it relates to their
: area of expertise or not.
:
: I have no problem with you or your opinion of the MVP situation;
: that's your perogative. I do urge you however to verify information
: and not just take it on blind faith because they put a title after
: their name. I have a few titles too, but I don't find the need to
: advertise them or worse yet use them as some kind of tool to make
: people think I'm greater than I am. There are a couple of MVPs that
: would do well to remember that for themselves, and to re-read their
: "rules of the road" for MVPs. I won't but some people would report
: them for almost any infraction. But I'm not out to punish; in tihs
: case I'm only out to stop misinformation, which the "all registry
: cleaners are bad" line is; it's pure bunk and the one touting that
: line even knows it.
:
: Regards,
:
: Twayne
:
:
: