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  #16  
Old December 16th 07, 02:31 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Alaye
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Posts: 13
Default XP keeps freezing up


not lately. it also has not crashed all day. mebbe its fixed??
"Gerry" wrote:

Alaye

Have you experimented with any optimisers or registry cleaners?


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Alaye wrote:
sorry it was copy commander VCOM that made the partitions

"Gerry" wrote:

Alaye

Does the freezing coincide with burning?

What is your CD burning software?

What utility did you use to create your partitions?

You should be able to gather more information from Task Manager. With
the Processes tab open select View, Select, Columns and check the
boxes before Peak Memory Usage and Virtual Memory size. What are the
figures for the 4 processes using the largest amounts?


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Alaye wrote:
i dont watch the movies on my PC. i only copy them and burn them.

Commit charge
Total 329520
Limit 4040068
Peak 448932 What does this mean?

"Gerry" wrote:

Alaye

Open Disk Defragmenter, select partition F and click on Analyse.
Select View Report and click on Save As and Save. Now find
VolumeC.txt (it might be VolumeF.txt) in your My Documents Folder
and post a copy. Do this before running Disk Defragmenter as it is
more informative.

What utility did you use to create your partitions?

Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the
Performance Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit
and the Peak?

You should be able to gather more information from Task Manager.
With the Processes tab open select View, Select, Columns and check
the boxes before Peak Memory Usage and Virtual Memory size. What
are the figures for the 4 processes using the largest amounts?

Please do this whilst watching a movie.

Do you get freezes when watching a movie and not at other times?

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Alaye wrote:
McAfee is virus scan and webroot spyware is spyware. there are no
error coced in the application log. the system had errors but none
around the time it crashed. any ideas about there still being
information events while she was crashed and frozen?
HD Tune: ST3250824A Information

Firmware version : 3.AAE
Serial number : 5ND3JXSP
Capacity : 232.9 GB (~250.1 GB)
Buffer size : 8192 KB
Standard : ATA/ATAPI-7
Supported mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)
Current mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)

S.M.A.R.T : yes
48-bit Address : yes
Read Look-Ahead : yes
Write Cache : yes
Host Protected Area : yes
Device Configuration Overlay : yes
Automatic Acoustic Management: no
Power Management : yes
Advanced Power Management : no
Power-up in Standby : no
Security Mode : yes
Firmware Upgradable : yes

Partition : 1
Drive letter : C:\
Label : 250 GIG
Capacity : 99998 MB
Usage : 67.61%
Type : NTFS
Bootable : Yes

Partition : 2
Drive letter : G:\
Label : SWAP_SPACE
Capacity : 6126 MB
Usage : 0.03%
Type : FAT32
Bootable : No

Partition : 3
Drive letter : H:\
Label : NEW_SPACE
Capacity : 52344 MB
Usage : 0.13%
Type : NTFS
Bootable : No

Partition : 4
Drive letter : F:\
Label : MOVIE_STORAGE
Capacity : 80003 MB
Usage : 88.81%
Type : NTFS
Bootable : No

HD Tune: ST3250824A Health

ID Current Worst ThresholdData
Status
(01) Raw Read Error Rate 102 90 6 0
Ok

(03) Spin Up Time 98 98 0 0
Ok

(04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 20 264
Ok

(05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 36 0
Ok

(07) Seek Error Rate 59 57 30
100570267 Ok

(09) Power On Hours Count 90 90 0 8893
Ok

(0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 97 0
Ok

(0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 20 227
Ok

(BB) (unknown attribute) 100 100 0 0
Ok

(BD) (unknown attribute) 100 100 0 0
Ok

(BE) Airflow Temperature 63 56 45
655884325 Ok

(C2) Temperature 37 44 0 37
Ok

(C3) Hardware ECC Recovered 64 45 0
242995742 Ok

(C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0
Ok

(C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0
Ok

(C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0
Ok

(C8) Write Error Rate 100 253 0 0
Ok

(CA) TA Counter Increased 100 253 0 0
Ok


Power On Time : 8893
Health Status : Ok


"Gerry" wrote:

Alaye

Let's see what HD Tune has to say.

I would have expected some indications of problems in the Event
Viewer Application log. Did you look there.

What McAfee products are you using? What anti-spyware programme?

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Alaye wrote:
Thanx for responding Gerry, i am familiar with your help from
previous post and you have been helpful. i use task manager all
the time to monitor system. it freezes while in use never on
boot. last night i used it for 3 hours straight with no problems
after it froze while doing a virus scan after 10 mins. i shut
it down to give it a rest. McAfee is my virus protection. Commit
charge
Total 329520
Limit 4040068
Peak 448932 What does this mean? Also i monitor the event log
and nothing seems to help. i get the info from M$ and it still
freezes. One interesting thing i saw was that my pc froze at
9:54 pm and there was event code thru to 10 :12, which was
prolly when i turned it off....? go figure . BTW the events
were information not error codes. im gonna try the HD Tune.

"Gerry" wrote:

Alaye

Does the freezing occur when you boot, after the Desktop
arrives or later?

What are your anti-virus and anti-spyware arrangements?

Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the
Performance Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the
Limit and the Peak?

You should be able to gather more information from Task
Manager. With the Processes tab open select View, Select,
Columns and check the boxes before Peak Memory Usage and
Virtual Memory size. What are the figures for the 4 processes
using the largest amounts?

Try running HD Tune(freeware).

Download and run it and see what it turns up.
http://www.hdtune.com/

Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under
Drive letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to
Clipboard ) and copy into a further message.

Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon
( copy to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. You can
also do a full surface scan with HD Tune.

Please post copies of all Error and Warning Reports appearing
in the System and Application logs in Event Viewer for the last
boot. No Information Reports or Duplicates please. Indicate
which also appear in a previous boot.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the
meaning of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source

Ads
  #17  
Old December 16th 07, 10:51 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Gerry
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 9,437
Default XP keeps freezing up

Alaye


Have you carried out the full suface scan using HD Tune yet? Are there
any bad sectors on the disk?

I thought you said the problem was freezes not crashes?

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Alaye wrote:
not lately. it also has not crashed all day. mebbe its fixed??
"Gerry" wrote:

Alaye

Have you experimented with any optimisers or registry cleaners?


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Alaye wrote:
sorry it was copy commander VCOM that made the partitions

"Gerry" wrote:

Alaye

Does the freezing coincide with burning?

What is your CD burning software?

What utility did you use to create your partitions?

You should be able to gather more information from Task Manager.
With the Processes tab open select View, Select, Columns and check
the boxes before Peak Memory Usage and Virtual Memory size. What
are the figures for the 4 processes using the largest amounts?


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Alaye wrote:
i dont watch the movies on my PC. i only copy them and burn them.

Commit charge
Total 329520
Limit 4040068
Peak 448932 What does this mean?

"Gerry" wrote:

Alaye

Open Disk Defragmenter, select partition F and click on Analyse.
Select View Report and click on Save As and Save. Now find
VolumeC.txt (it might be VolumeF.txt) in your My Documents
Folder and post a copy. Do this before running Disk Defragmenter
as it is more informative.

What utility did you use to create your partitions?

Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the
Performance Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit
and the Peak?

You should be able to gather more information from Task Manager.
With the Processes tab open select View, Select, Columns and
check the boxes before Peak Memory Usage and Virtual Memory
size. What are the figures for the 4 processes using the largest
amounts?

Please do this whilst watching a movie.

Do you get freezes when watching a movie and not at other times?

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Alaye wrote:
McAfee is virus scan and webroot spyware is spyware. there are
no error coced in the application log. the system had errors
but none around the time it crashed. any ideas about there
still being information events while she was crashed and frozen?
HD Tune: ST3250824A Information

Firmware version : 3.AAE
Serial number : 5ND3JXSP
Capacity : 232.9 GB (~250.1 GB)
Buffer size : 8192 KB
Standard : ATA/ATAPI-7
Supported mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)
Current mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)

S.M.A.R.T : yes
48-bit Address : yes
Read Look-Ahead : yes
Write Cache : yes
Host Protected Area : yes
Device Configuration Overlay : yes
Automatic Acoustic Management: no
Power Management : yes
Advanced Power Management : no
Power-up in Standby : no
Security Mode : yes
Firmware Upgradable : yes

Partition : 1
Drive letter : C:\
Label : 250 GIG
Capacity : 99998 MB
Usage : 67.61%
Type : NTFS
Bootable : Yes

Partition : 2
Drive letter : G:\
Label : SWAP_SPACE
Capacity : 6126 MB
Usage : 0.03%
Type : FAT32
Bootable : No

Partition : 3
Drive letter : H:\
Label : NEW_SPACE
Capacity : 52344 MB
Usage : 0.13%
Type : NTFS
Bootable : No

Partition : 4
Drive letter : F:\
Label : MOVIE_STORAGE
Capacity : 80003 MB
Usage : 88.81%
Type : NTFS
Bootable : No

HD Tune: ST3250824A Health

ID Current Worst ThresholdData
Status
(01) Raw Read Error Rate 102 90 6 0
Ok

(03) Spin Up Time 98 98 0 0
Ok

(04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 20 264
Ok

(05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 36 0
Ok

(07) Seek Error Rate 59 57 30
100570267 Ok

(09) Power On Hours Count 90 90 0 8893
Ok

(0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 97 0
Ok

(0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 20 227
Ok

(BB) (unknown attribute) 100 100 0 0
Ok

(BD) (unknown attribute) 100 100 0 0
Ok

(BE) Airflow Temperature 63 56 45
655884325 Ok

(C2) Temperature 37 44 0 37
Ok

(C3) Hardware ECC Recovered 64 45 0
242995742 Ok

(C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0
Ok

(C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0
Ok

(C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0
Ok

(C8) Write Error Rate 100 253 0 0
Ok

(CA) TA Counter Increased 100 253 0 0
Ok


Power On Time : 8893
Health Status : Ok


"Gerry" wrote:

Alaye

Let's see what HD Tune has to say.

I would have expected some indications of problems in the Event
Viewer Application log. Did you look there.

What McAfee products are you using? What anti-spyware
programme?

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Alaye wrote:
Thanx for responding Gerry, i am familiar with your help from
previous post and you have been helpful. i use task manager
all the time to monitor system. it freezes while in use
never on boot. last night i used it for 3 hours straight with
no problems after it froze while doing a virus scan after 10
mins. i shut it down to give it a rest. McAfee is my virus
protection. Commit charge
Total 329520
Limit 4040068
Peak 448932 What does this mean? Also i monitor the event
log and nothing seems to help. i get the info from M$ and it
still freezes. One interesting thing i saw was that my pc
froze at 9:54 pm and there was event code thru to 10 :12,
which was prolly when i turned it off....? go figure . BTW
the events were information not error codes. im gonna try the
HD Tune.

"Gerry" wrote:

Alaye

Does the freezing occur when you boot, after the Desktop
arrives or later?

What are your anti-virus and anti-spyware arrangements?

Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the
Performance Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the
Limit and the Peak?

You should be able to gather more information from Task
Manager. With the Processes tab open select View, Select,
Columns and check the boxes before Peak Memory Usage and
Virtual Memory size. What are the figures for the 4 processes
using the largest amounts?

Try running HD Tune(freeware).

Download and run it and see what it turns up.
http://www.hdtune.com/

Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under
Drive letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy
to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message.

Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon
( copy to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. You
can also do a full surface scan with HD Tune.

Please post copies of all Error and Warning Reports appearing
in the System and Application logs in Event Viewer for the
last boot. No Information Reports or Duplicates please.
Indicate which also appear in a previous boot.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control
Panel, Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When
researching the meaning of the error, information regarding
Event ID, Source



  #18  
Old December 16th 07, 08:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Alaye
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 13
Default XP keeps freezing up

Sorry, it hadnt froze all day. I sent you logs. it did start freezing again.
the logs show activity while i was frozen out. again no errors just
information codes. and yes i did HD scan : no bad sectors sir.

"Gerry" wrote:

Alaye


Have you carried out the full suface scan using HD Tune yet? Are there
any bad sectors on the disk?

I thought you said the problem was freezes not crashes?

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Alaye wrote:
not lately. it also has not crashed all day. mebbe its fixed??
"Gerry" wrote:

Alaye

Have you experimented with any optimisers or registry cleaners?


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Alaye wrote:
sorry it was copy commander VCOM that made the partitions

"Gerry" wrote:

Alaye

Does the freezing coincide with burning?

What is your CD burning software?

What utility did you use to create your partitions?

You should be able to gather more information from Task Manager.
With the Processes tab open select View, Select, Columns and check
the boxes before Peak Memory Usage and Virtual Memory size. What
are the figures for the 4 processes using the largest amounts?


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Alaye wrote:
i dont watch the movies on my PC. i only copy them and burn them.

Commit charge
Total 329520
Limit 4040068
Peak 448932 What does this mean?

"Gerry" wrote:

Alaye

Open Disk Defragmenter, select partition F and click on Analyse.
Select View Report and click on Save As and Save. Now find
VolumeC.txt (it might be VolumeF.txt) in your My Documents
Folder and post a copy. Do this before running Disk Defragmenter
as it is more informative.

What utility did you use to create your partitions?

Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the
Performance Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit
and the Peak?

You should be able to gather more information from Task Manager.
With the Processes tab open select View, Select, Columns and
check the boxes before Peak Memory Usage and Virtual Memory
size. What are the figures for the 4 processes using the largest
amounts?

Please do this whilst watching a movie.

Do you get freezes when watching a movie and not at other times?

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Alaye wrote:
McAfee is virus scan and webroot spyware is spyware. there are
no error coced in the application log. the system had errors
but none around the time it crashed. any ideas about there
still being information events while she was crashed and frozen?
HD Tune: ST3250824A Information

Firmware version : 3.AAE
Serial number : 5ND3JXSP
Capacity : 232.9 GB (~250.1 GB)
Buffer size : 8192 KB
Standard : ATA/ATAPI-7
Supported mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)
Current mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)

S.M.A.R.T : yes
48-bit Address : yes
Read Look-Ahead : yes
Write Cache : yes
Host Protected Area : yes
Device Configuration Overlay : yes
Automatic Acoustic Management: no
Power Management : yes
Advanced Power Management : no
Power-up in Standby : no
Security Mode : yes
Firmware Upgradable : yes

Partition : 1
Drive letter : C:\
Label : 250 GIG
Capacity : 99998 MB
Usage : 67.61%
Type : NTFS
Bootable : Yes

Partition : 2
Drive letter : G:\
Label : SWAP_SPACE
Capacity : 6126 MB
Usage : 0.03%
Type : FAT32
Bootable : No

Partition : 3
Drive letter : H:\
Label : NEW_SPACE
Capacity : 52344 MB
Usage : 0.13%
Type : NTFS
Bootable : No

Partition : 4
Drive letter : F:\
Label : MOVIE_STORAGE
Capacity : 80003 MB
Usage : 88.81%
Type : NTFS
Bootable : No

HD Tune: ST3250824A Health

ID Current Worst ThresholdData
Status
(01) Raw Read Error Rate 102 90 6 0
Ok

(03) Spin Up Time 98 98 0 0
Ok

(04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 20 264
Ok

(05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 36 0
Ok

(07) Seek Error Rate 59 57 30
100570267 Ok

(09) Power On Hours Count 90 90 0 8893
Ok

(0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 97 0
Ok

(0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 20 227
Ok

(BB) (unknown attribute) 100 100 0 0
Ok

(BD) (unknown attribute) 100 100 0 0
Ok

(BE) Airflow Temperature 63 56 45
655884325 Ok

(C2) Temperature 37 44 0 37
Ok

(C3) Hardware ECC Recovered 64 45 0
242995742 Ok

(C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0
Ok

(C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0
Ok

(C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0
Ok

(C8) Write Error Rate 100 253 0 0
Ok

(CA) TA Counter Increased 100 253 0 0
Ok


Power On Time : 8893
Health Status : Ok


"Gerry" wrote:

Alaye

Let's see what HD Tune has to say.

I would have expected some indications of problems in the Event
Viewer Application log. Did you look there.

What McAfee products are you using? What anti-spyware
programme?

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Alaye wrote:
Thanx for responding Gerry, i am familiar with your help from
previous post and you have been helpful. i use task manager
all the time to monitor system. it freezes while in use
never on boot. last night i used it for 3 hours straight with
no problems after it froze while doing a virus scan after 10
mins. i shut it down to give it a rest. McAfee is my virus
protection. Commit charge
Total 329520
Limit 4040068
Peak 448932 What does this mean? Also i monitor the event
log and nothing seems to help. i get the info from M$ and it
still freezes. One interesting thing i saw was that my pc
froze at 9:54 pm and there was event code thru to 10 :12,
which was prolly when i turned it off....? go figure . BTW
the events were information not error codes. im gonna try the
HD Tune.

"Gerry" wrote:

Alaye

Does the freezing occur when you boot, after the Desktop
arrives or later?

What are your anti-virus and anti-spyware arrangements?

Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the
Performance Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the
Limit and the Peak?

  #19  
Old December 16th 07, 09:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Grand_Poobah
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 48
Default XP keeps freezing up

Gerry:

Could this possibly be power related? I'm wondering if the power supply
could be failing, or even if the mains supply may be browning out.

GP

---
Alaye


Have you carried out the full suface scan using HD Tune yet? Are there
any bad sectors on the disk?

I thought you said the problem was freezes not crashes?

  #20  
Old December 16th 07, 09:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Gerry
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 9,437
Default XP keeps freezing up

Of course it is possible. So are a number of other things.



~~~~


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Grand_Poobah wrote:
Gerry:

Could this possibly be power related? I'm wondering if the power
supply could be failing, or even if the mains supply may be browning
out.
GP

---
Alaye


Have you carried out the full suface scan using HD Tune yet? Are
there any bad sectors on the disk?

I thought you said the problem was freezes not crashes?



  #21  
Old December 16th 07, 09:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Gerry
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 9,437
Default XP keeps freezing up

Alaye

May I suggest you downoad and run Spybot S & D.
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/index.html

Are you running McAfee Site Advisor?



--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Alaye wrote:
Sorry, it hadnt froze all day. I sent you logs. it did start
freezing again. the logs show activity while i was frozen out. again
no errors just information codes. and yes i did HD scan : no bad
sectors sir.

"Gerry" wrote:

Alaye


Have you carried out the full suface scan using HD Tune yet? Are
there any bad sectors on the disk?

I thought you said the problem was freezes not crashes?

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Alaye wrote:
not lately. it also has not crashed all day. mebbe its fixed??
"Gerry" wrote:

Alaye

Have you experimented with any optimisers or registry cleaners?


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Alaye wrote:
sorry it was copy commander VCOM that made the partitions

"Gerry" wrote:

Alaye

Does the freezing coincide with burning?

What is your CD burning software?

What utility did you use to create your partitions?

You should be able to gather more information from Task Manager.
With the Processes tab open select View, Select, Columns and
check the boxes before Peak Memory Usage and Virtual Memory
size. What are the figures for the 4 processes using the largest
amounts?


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Alaye wrote:
i dont watch the movies on my PC. i only copy them and burn
them.

Commit charge
Total 329520
Limit 4040068
Peak 448932 What does this mean?

"Gerry" wrote:

Alaye

Open Disk Defragmenter, select partition F and click on
Analyse. Select View Report and click on Save As and Save. Now
find VolumeC.txt (it might be VolumeF.txt) in your My
Documents Folder and post a copy. Do this before running Disk
Defragmenter as it is more informative.

What utility did you use to create your partitions?

Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the
Performance Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the
Limit and the Peak?

You should be able to gather more information from Task
Manager. With the Processes tab open select View, Select,
Columns and check the boxes before Peak Memory Usage and
Virtual Memory size. What are the figures for the 4 processes
using the largest amounts?

Please do this whilst watching a movie.

Do you get freezes when watching a movie and not at other
times?

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Alaye wrote:
McAfee is virus scan and webroot spyware is spyware. there
are no error coced in the application log. the system had
errors but none around the time it crashed. any ideas about
there still being information events while she was crashed
and frozen? HD Tune: ST3250824A Information

Firmware version : 3.AAE
Serial number : 5ND3JXSP
Capacity : 232.9 GB (~250.1 GB)
Buffer size : 8192 KB
Standard : ATA/ATAPI-7
Supported mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)
Current mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)

S.M.A.R.T : yes
48-bit Address : yes
Read Look-Ahead : yes
Write Cache : yes
Host Protected Area : yes
Device Configuration Overlay : yes
Automatic Acoustic Management: no
Power Management : yes
Advanced Power Management : no
Power-up in Standby : no
Security Mode : yes
Firmware Upgradable : yes

Partition : 1
Drive letter : C:\
Label : 250 GIG
Capacity : 99998 MB
Usage : 67.61%
Type : NTFS
Bootable : Yes

Partition : 2
Drive letter : G:\
Label : SWAP_SPACE
Capacity : 6126 MB
Usage : 0.03%
Type : FAT32
Bootable : No

Partition : 3
Drive letter : H:\
Label : NEW_SPACE
Capacity : 52344 MB
Usage : 0.13%
Type : NTFS
Bootable : No

Partition : 4
Drive letter : F:\
Label : MOVIE_STORAGE
Capacity : 80003 MB
Usage : 88.81%
Type : NTFS
Bootable : No

HD Tune: ST3250824A Health

ID Current Worst
ThresholdData Status
(01) Raw Read Error Rate 102 90 6 0
Ok

(03) Spin Up Time 98 98 0 0
Ok

(04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 20
264 Ok

(05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 36 0
Ok

(07) Seek Error Rate 59 57 30
100570267 Ok

(09) Power On Hours Count 90 90 0
8893 Ok

(0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 97 0
Ok

(0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 20
227 Ok

(BB) (unknown attribute) 100 100 0 0
Ok

(BD) (unknown attribute) 100 100 0 0
Ok

(BE) Airflow Temperature 63 56 45
655884325 Ok

(C2) Temperature 37 44 0 37
Ok

(C3) Hardware ECC Recovered 64 45 0
242995742 Ok

(C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0
Ok

(C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0
Ok

(C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0
Ok

(C8) Write Error Rate 100 253 0 0
Ok

(CA) TA Counter Increased 100 253 0 0
Ok


Power On Time : 8893
Health Status : Ok


"Gerry" wrote:

Alaye

Let's see what HD Tune has to say.

I would have expected some indications of problems in the
Event Viewer Application log. Did you look there.

What McAfee products are you using? What anti-spyware
programme?

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Alaye wrote:
Thanx for responding Gerry, i am familiar with your help
from previous post and you have been helpful. i use task
manager all the time to monitor system. it freezes while
in use never on boot. last night i used it for 3 hours
straight with no problems after it froze while doing a
virus scan after 10 mins. i shut it down to give it a
rest. McAfee is my virus protection. Commit charge
Total 329520
Limit 4040068
Peak 448932 What does this mean? Also i monitor the event
log and nothing seems to help. i get the info from M$ and
it still freezes. One interesting thing i saw was that my pc
froze at 9:54 pm and there was event code thru to 10 :12,
which was prolly when i turned it off....? go figure . BTW
the events were information not error codes. im gonna try
the HD Tune.

"Gerry" wrote:

Alaye

Does the freezing occur when you boot, after the Desktop
arrives or later?

What are your anti-virus and anti-spyware arrangements?

Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the
Performance Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the
Limit and the Peak?



  #22  
Old December 17th 07, 02:36 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Daave
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Posts: 3,568
Default XP keeps freezing up

Alaye wrote:
lately my PC keeps freezing. No response no C-A-D nothing.

i have the latest drivers, cleaned, defragged, chkdsk, virus scanned,
vacuumed, and everything else that im supposed to do.
can any1 help me with this 1???

Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600

Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9 GenuineIntel ~2695 Mhz

Total Physical Memory 2,048.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 1.44 GB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
Page File Space 3.85 GB
drive 0 is 295GB w/ partitions 70/70/50/50
drive1 is 40 GB


Alaye, I have been following this thread and although you've provided a
lot of information, more is still needed.

First of all, please define "freeze." In another post you mentioned this
occurred during a virus scan. Did the system itself freeze? Or did
McAfee simply hang? Is the freeze permanent or does it eventually
resolve itself? Does this behavior occur during other activities? Or is
it only during virus scans? I'd be tempted to ditch McAfee regardless;
it's quite the resource hog.

Have you tried running in Safe Mode? If there are no hangs/freezes in
Safe Mode, then I would try clean boot troubleshooting:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/316434

If you would rather try a quicker (but less thorough) method, just use
msconfig. Uncheck half the items and see if you get any freezes. If you
don't, then you know the problem lies somewhere in the other half.
Narrow down further until you find the culprit.

As Grand_Poobah suggested, this might very well be a hardware issue. And
since you stated Event Viewer did not show any Errors, I have a feeling
your problems are hardware-related (quite possibly a flaky power
supply). More information:

http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html


  #23  
Old December 17th 07, 03:44 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Alaye
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 13
Default XP keeps freezing up

Thanx Daave, by freezing i mean the screen is stuck where it is. the mouse
doesnt respond and neither does ctrl-alt-delete. i have to do a hard shut
down turn the power supply button off. it happens at all different times,
i cannot say that such and such causes it because it does it whenever.
i used msconfig to shut down ALL running applications and still it froze.

now something else that i mentioned is that there is event log activity
during the time its frozen. it happened last night @ 12:06 and i left the
screen frozen there. this morning my screen saver had kicked in but was
frozen in mid animation...go figure. i had to do a hard shut down and there
were no error codes but there was normal event codes information codes. i
may be crazy but it seems to NOT freeze if im playing windows media player
while i use it. maybe its a coincidence.
in addition there is nothing new on my PC its been this way w/ mcafee et al.
since february.
i think the answer lies in the fact that it freezes while still having
activity. if it is hardware what could it be. the hard drive checks 8 ways
against the sun. is it RAM? if its the power supply what part? power to the
disks? iot doesnt make sense and im thissssss close to callin M$ knowing
they probably cant help me.

i hope this was thorough enough. thanx for your help sir.

"Daave" wrote:

Alaye wrote:
lately my PC keeps freezing. No response no C-A-D nothing.

i have the latest drivers, cleaned, defragged, chkdsk, virus scanned,
vacuumed, and everything else that im supposed to do.
can any1 help me with this 1???

Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600

Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9 GenuineIntel ~2695 Mhz

Total Physical Memory 2,048.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 1.44 GB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
Page File Space 3.85 GB
drive 0 is 295GB w/ partitions 70/70/50/50
drive1 is 40 GB


Alaye, I have been following this thread and although you've provided a
lot of information, more is still needed.

First of all, please define "freeze." In another post you mentioned this
occurred during a virus scan. Did the system itself freeze? Or did
McAfee simply hang? Is the freeze permanent or does it eventually
resolve itself? Does this behavior occur during other activities? Or is
it only during virus scans? I'd be tempted to ditch McAfee regardless;
it's quite the resource hog.

Have you tried running in Safe Mode? If there are no hangs/freezes in
Safe Mode, then I would try clean boot troubleshooting:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/316434

If you would rather try a quicker (but less thorough) method, just use
msconfig. Uncheck half the items and see if you get any freezes. If you
don't, then you know the problem lies somewhere in the other half.
Narrow down further until you find the culprit.

As Grand_Poobah suggested, this might very well be a hardware issue. And
since you stated Event Viewer did not show any Errors, I have a feeling
your problems are hardware-related (quite possibly a flaky power
supply). More information:

http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html



  #24  
Old December 17th 07, 03:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Daave
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,568
Default XP keeps freezing up

"Alaye" wrote in message
...
Thanx Daave, by freezing i mean the screen is stuck where it is. the
mouse
doesnt respond and neither does ctrl-alt-delete. i have to do a hard
shut
down turn the power supply button off. it happens at all different
times,
i cannot say that such and such causes it because it does it whenever.
i used msconfig to shut down ALL running applications and still it
froze.

now something else that i mentioned is that there is event log
activity
during the time its frozen. it happened last night @ 12:06 and i left
the
screen frozen there. this morning my screen saver had kicked in but
was
frozen in mid animation...go figure. i had to do a hard shut down and
there
were no error codes but there was normal event codes information
codes. i
may be crazy but it seems to NOT freeze if im playing windows media
player
while i use it. maybe its a coincidence.
in addition there is nothing new on my PC its been this way w/ mcafee
et al.
since february.
i think the answer lies in the fact that it freezes while still having
activity. if it is hardware what could it be. the hard drive checks
8 ways
against the sun. is it RAM? if its the power supply what part? power
to the
disks? iot doesnt make sense and im thissssss close to callin M$
knowing
they probably cant help me.

i hope this was thorough enough. thanx for your help sir.


This really seems like a hardware issue, Alaye. So, definitely don't
waste any money on a service call to Microsoft!

The only thing that puzzles me is activity in the event log during the
time of the freeze. Perhaps your clock or time zone is set incorrectly.

The link I gave you
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html
has just about all the information you need to diagnose hardware issues,
including Memtest 86+ for checking RAM
(and if you want another diagnostic utility, you can try the Windows
Memory Diagnostic at http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp )

Regarding the power supply, you could try checking it with a multimeter.
Or if you can get your hands on another working power supply, just swap
it in.

Make sure all the dust bunnies are blown away. Your problems may just be
the result of overheating! (Make sure all the fans are working, too.)

Obviously, if this sort of thing isn't your cup of tea, take your PC to
a qualified technician, making sure to avoid the big chain superstores.

One last thought is you may want to disable your screensaver and set all
of your power schemes to "Never."


  #25  
Old December 17th 07, 04:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Gerry
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Posts: 9,437
Default XP keeps freezing up

Alaye

In addition to what Daave is saying it is likely that your RAM memory is
made up of more than one stick and if so this offers a simple way to
check for faulty memory. Open the computer casing and carefully remove
one memory card (stick) from it's slot and run the computer with it
removed to see whether the problem occurs. Repeat the process putting
the first memory card back in and removing the second memory card and
test that card. Make sure you allow sufficient time for an error to
occur. When removing the card you will need to lift a retaining clip
each end of the memory card to allow it to be removed. Take great care
not to touch the motherboard. You can also get an Anti-Static wrist
band from a computer store to prevent a static
electricity discharge from you damaging the motherboard.
http://www.ehow.com/how_895_install-ram.html


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Alaye wrote:
Thanx Daave, by freezing i mean the screen is stuck where it is. the
mouse doesnt respond and neither does ctrl-alt-delete. i have to do
a hard shut down turn the power supply button off. it happens at
all different times, i cannot say that such and such causes it
because it does it whenever.
i used msconfig to shut down ALL running applications and still it
froze.

now something else that i mentioned is that there is event log
activity during the time its frozen. it happened last night @ 12:06
and i left the screen frozen there. this morning my screen saver had
kicked in but was frozen in mid animation...go figure. i had to do a
hard shut down and there were no error codes but there was normal
event codes information codes. i may be crazy but it seems to NOT
freeze if im playing windows media player while i use it. maybe its a
coincidence.
in addition there is nothing new on my PC its been this way w/ mcafee
et al. since february.
i think the answer lies in the fact that it freezes while still having
activity. if it is hardware what could it be. the hard drive checks
8 ways against the sun. is it RAM? if its the power supply what
part? power to the disks? iot doesnt make sense and im thissssss
close to callin M$ knowing they probably cant help me.

i hope this was thorough enough. thanx for your help sir.

"Daave" wrote:

Alaye wrote:
lately my PC keeps freezing. No response no C-A-D nothing.

i have the latest drivers, cleaned, defragged, chkdsk, virus
scanned, vacuumed, and everything else that im supposed to do.
can any1 help me with this 1???

Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600

Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9 GenuineIntel ~2695 Mhz

Total Physical Memory 2,048.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 1.44 GB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
Page File Space 3.85 GB
drive 0 is 295GB w/ partitions 70/70/50/50
drive1 is 40 GB


Alaye, I have been following this thread and although you've
provided a lot of information, more is still needed.

First of all, please define "freeze." In another post you mentioned
this occurred during a virus scan. Did the system itself freeze? Or
did McAfee simply hang? Is the freeze permanent or does it eventually
resolve itself? Does this behavior occur during other activities? Or
is it only during virus scans? I'd be tempted to ditch McAfee
regardless; it's quite the resource hog.

Have you tried running in Safe Mode? If there are no hangs/freezes in
Safe Mode, then I would try clean boot troubleshooting:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/316434

If you would rather try a quicker (but less thorough) method, just
use msconfig. Uncheck half the items and see if you get any freezes.
If you don't, then you know the problem lies somewhere in the other
half. Narrow down further until you find the culprit.

As Grand_Poobah suggested, this might very well be a hardware issue.
And since you stated Event Viewer did not show any Errors, I have a
feeling your problems are hardware-related (quite possibly a flaky
power supply). More information:

http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html



  #26  
Old December 18th 07, 05:00 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Alaye
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 13
Default XP keeps freezing up

Thanx Daave and Gerry, I built the PC so those are suggestions that seem
reasonable to do.
Im still trying to figure out how to use the mem test from elephantboys. i
made floppy and booted on it but it doesnt work.

No the time zone setting is correct so that puzzling question lingers.
besides it was several hrs worth of activity that occurred while frozen.

I'll try all you guys suggested and will let ya know how it turns out.
PS i never heard of randomly bad mem sticks, only good or bad .
"Gerry" wrote:

Alaye

In addition to what Daave is saying it is likely that your RAM memory is
made up of more than one stick and if so this offers a simple way to
check for faulty memory. Open the computer casing and carefully remove
one memory card (stick) from it's slot and run the computer with it
removed to see whether the problem occurs. Repeat the process putting
the first memory card back in and removing the second memory card and
test that card. Make sure you allow sufficient time for an error to
occur. When removing the card you will need to lift a retaining clip
each end of the memory card to allow it to be removed. Take great care
not to touch the motherboard. You can also get an Anti-Static wrist
band from a computer store to prevent a static
electricity discharge from you damaging the motherboard.
http://www.ehow.com/how_895_install-ram.html


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Alaye wrote:
Thanx Daave, by freezing i mean the screen is stuck where it is. the
mouse doesnt respond and neither does ctrl-alt-delete. i have to do
a hard shut down turn the power supply button off. it happens at
all different times, i cannot say that such and such causes it
because it does it whenever.
i used msconfig to shut down ALL running applications and still it
froze.

now something else that i mentioned is that there is event log
activity during the time its frozen. it happened last night @ 12:06
and i left the screen frozen there. this morning my screen saver had
kicked in but was frozen in mid animation...go figure. i had to do a
hard shut down and there were no error codes but there was normal
event codes information codes. i may be crazy but it seems to NOT
freeze if im playing windows media player while i use it. maybe its a
coincidence.
in addition there is nothing new on my PC its been this way w/ mcafee
et al. since february.
i think the answer lies in the fact that it freezes while still having
activity. if it is hardware what could it be. the hard drive checks
8 ways against the sun. is it RAM? if its the power supply what
part? power to the disks? iot doesnt make sense and im thissssss
close to callin M$ knowing they probably cant help me.

i hope this was thorough enough. thanx for your help sir.

"Daave" wrote:

Alaye wrote:
lately my PC keeps freezing. No response no C-A-D nothing.

i have the latest drivers, cleaned, defragged, chkdsk, virus
scanned, vacuumed, and everything else that im supposed to do.
can any1 help me with this 1???

Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600

Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9 GenuineIntel ~2695 Mhz

Total Physical Memory 2,048.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 1.44 GB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
Page File Space 3.85 GB
drive 0 is 295GB w/ partitions 70/70/50/50
drive1 is 40 GB

Alaye, I have been following this thread and although you've
provided a lot of information, more is still needed.

First of all, please define "freeze." In another post you mentioned
this occurred during a virus scan. Did the system itself freeze? Or
did McAfee simply hang? Is the freeze permanent or does it eventually
resolve itself? Does this behavior occur during other activities? Or
is it only during virus scans? I'd be tempted to ditch McAfee
regardless; it's quite the resource hog.

Have you tried running in Safe Mode? If there are no hangs/freezes in
Safe Mode, then I would try clean boot troubleshooting:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/316434

If you would rather try a quicker (but less thorough) method, just
use msconfig. Uncheck half the items and see if you get any freezes.
If you don't, then you know the problem lies somewhere in the other
half. Narrow down further until you find the culprit.

As Grand_Poobah suggested, this might very well be a hardware issue.
And since you stated Event Viewer did not show any Errors, I have a
feeling your problems are hardware-related (quite possibly a flaky
power supply). More information:

http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html




  #27  
Old December 18th 07, 08:50 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Gerry
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 9,437
Default XP keeps freezing up

Allaye

Not randomly bad. One can be good and one bad.

Have you run Spybot S & D yet? No anti-virus or anti-spyware software
has the capability to detect all malware all of the time.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Alaye wrote:
Thanx Daave and Gerry, I built the PC so those are suggestions that
seem reasonable to do.
Im still trying to figure out how to use the mem test from
elephantboys. i made floppy and booted on it but it doesnt work.

No the time zone setting is correct so that puzzling question lingers.
besides it was several hrs worth of activity that occurred while
frozen.

I'll try all you guys suggested and will let ya know how it turns out.
PS i never heard of randomly bad mem sticks, only good or bad .
"Gerry" wrote:

Alaye

In addition to what Daave is saying it is likely that your RAM
memory is made up of more than one stick and if so this offers a
simple way to check for faulty memory. Open the computer casing and
carefully remove one memory card (stick) from it's slot and run the
computer with it removed to see whether the problem occurs. Repeat
the process putting the first memory card back in and removing the
second memory card and test that card. Make sure you allow
sufficient time for an error to occur. When removing the card you
will need to lift a retaining clip each end of the memory card to
allow it to be removed. Take great care not to touch the
motherboard. You can also get an Anti-Static wrist band from a
computer store to prevent a static
electricity discharge from you damaging the motherboard.
http://www.ehow.com/how_895_install-ram.html


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Alaye wrote:
Thanx Daave, by freezing i mean the screen is stuck where it is.
the mouse doesnt respond and neither does ctrl-alt-delete. i have
to do a hard shut down turn the power supply button off. it
happens at all different times, i cannot say that such and such
causes it because it does it whenever.
i used msconfig to shut down ALL running applications and still it
froze.

now something else that i mentioned is that there is event log
activity during the time its frozen. it happened last night @ 12:06
and i left the screen frozen there. this morning my screen saver
had kicked in but was frozen in mid animation...go figure. i had
to do a hard shut down and there were no error codes but there was
normal event codes information codes. i may be crazy but it
seems to NOT freeze if im playing windows media player while i use
it. maybe its a coincidence.
in addition there is nothing new on my PC its been this way w/
mcafee et al. since february.
i think the answer lies in the fact that it freezes while still
having activity. if it is hardware what could it be. the hard
drive checks 8 ways against the sun. is it RAM? if its the power
supply what part? power to the disks? iot doesnt make sense and im
thissssss close to callin M$ knowing they probably cant help me.

i hope this was thorough enough. thanx for your help sir.

"Daave" wrote:

Alaye wrote:
lately my PC keeps freezing. No response no C-A-D nothing.

i have the latest drivers, cleaned, defragged, chkdsk, virus
scanned, vacuumed, and everything else that im supposed to do.
can any1 help me with this 1???

Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600

Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9 GenuineIntel ~2695 Mhz

Total Physical Memory 2,048.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 1.44 GB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
Page File Space 3.85 GB
drive 0 is 295GB w/ partitions 70/70/50/50
drive1 is 40 GB

Alaye, I have been following this thread and although you've
provided a lot of information, more is still needed.

First of all, please define "freeze." In another post you mentioned
this occurred during a virus scan. Did the system itself freeze? Or
did McAfee simply hang? Is the freeze permanent or does it
eventually resolve itself? Does this behavior occur during other
activities? Or is it only during virus scans? I'd be tempted to
ditch McAfee regardless; it's quite the resource hog.

Have you tried running in Safe Mode? If there are no hangs/freezes
in Safe Mode, then I would try clean boot troubleshooting:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/316434

If you would rather try a quicker (but less thorough) method, just
use msconfig. Uncheck half the items and see if you get any
freezes. If you don't, then you know the problem lies somewhere in
the other half. Narrow down further until you find the culprit.

As Grand_Poobah suggested, this might very well be a hardware
issue. And since you stated Event Viewer did not show any Errors,
I have a feeling your problems are hardware-related (quite
possibly a flaky power supply). More information:

http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html



  #28  
Old December 19th 07, 01:16 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Alaye
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 13
Default XP keeps freezing up

I cant thank you guys enough for all your help. I isolated the bad memory
stick removed it and been running my PC all day now.

Thank you Thank you Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL.

"Gerry" wrote:

Allaye

Not randomly bad. One can be good and one bad.

Have you run Spybot S & D yet? No anti-virus or anti-spyware software
has the capability to detect all malware all of the time.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Alaye wrote:
Thanx Daave and Gerry, I built the PC so those are suggestions that
seem reasonable to do.
Im still trying to figure out how to use the mem test from
elephantboys. i made floppy and booted on it but it doesnt work.

No the time zone setting is correct so that puzzling question lingers.
besides it was several hrs worth of activity that occurred while
frozen.

I'll try all you guys suggested and will let ya know how it turns out.
PS i never heard of randomly bad mem sticks, only good or bad .
"Gerry" wrote:

Alaye

In addition to what Daave is saying it is likely that your RAM
memory is made up of more than one stick and if so this offers a
simple way to check for faulty memory. Open the computer casing and
carefully remove one memory card (stick) from it's slot and run the
computer with it removed to see whether the problem occurs. Repeat
the process putting the first memory card back in and removing the
second memory card and test that card. Make sure you allow
sufficient time for an error to occur. When removing the card you
will need to lift a retaining clip each end of the memory card to
allow it to be removed. Take great care not to touch the
motherboard. You can also get an Anti-Static wrist band from a
computer store to prevent a static
electricity discharge from you damaging the motherboard.
http://www.ehow.com/how_895_install-ram.html


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Alaye wrote:
Thanx Daave, by freezing i mean the screen is stuck where it is.
the mouse doesnt respond and neither does ctrl-alt-delete. i have
to do a hard shut down turn the power supply button off. it
happens at all different times, i cannot say that such and such
causes it because it does it whenever.
i used msconfig to shut down ALL running applications and still it
froze.

now something else that i mentioned is that there is event log
activity during the time its frozen. it happened last night @ 12:06
and i left the screen frozen there. this morning my screen saver
had kicked in but was frozen in mid animation...go figure. i had
to do a hard shut down and there were no error codes but there was
normal event codes information codes. i may be crazy but it
seems to NOT freeze if im playing windows media player while i use
it. maybe its a coincidence.
in addition there is nothing new on my PC its been this way w/
mcafee et al. since february.
i think the answer lies in the fact that it freezes while still
having activity. if it is hardware what could it be. the hard
drive checks 8 ways against the sun. is it RAM? if its the power
supply what part? power to the disks? iot doesnt make sense and im
thissssss close to callin M$ knowing they probably cant help me.

i hope this was thorough enough. thanx for your help sir.

"Daave" wrote:

Alaye wrote:
lately my PC keeps freezing. No response no C-A-D nothing.

i have the latest drivers, cleaned, defragged, chkdsk, virus
scanned, vacuumed, and everything else that im supposed to do.
can any1 help me with this 1???

Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600

Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9 GenuineIntel ~2695 Mhz

Total Physical Memory 2,048.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 1.44 GB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
Page File Space 3.85 GB
drive 0 is 295GB w/ partitions 70/70/50/50
drive1 is 40 GB

Alaye, I have been following this thread and although you've
provided a lot of information, more is still needed.

First of all, please define "freeze." In another post you mentioned
this occurred during a virus scan. Did the system itself freeze? Or
did McAfee simply hang? Is the freeze permanent or does it
eventually resolve itself? Does this behavior occur during other
activities? Or is it only during virus scans? I'd be tempted to
ditch McAfee regardless; it's quite the resource hog.

Have you tried running in Safe Mode? If there are no hangs/freezes
in Safe Mode, then I would try clean boot troubleshooting:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/316434

If you would rather try a quicker (but less thorough) method, just
use msconfig. Uncheck half the items and see if you get any
freezes. If you don't, then you know the problem lies somewhere in
the other half. Narrow down further until you find the culprit.

As Grand_Poobah suggested, this might very well be a hardware
issue. And since you stated Event Viewer did not show any Errors,
I have a feeling your problems are hardware-related (quite
possibly a flaky power supply). More information:

http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html




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Old December 19th 07, 02:29 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Daave
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Default XP keeps freezing up

That's great that you fixed your problem, Alaye! (And nice call, Gerry.)

If you think you need to purchase a replacement stick of RAM, I've had
good experiences with:

http://www.crucial.com

and

http://www.kingston.com



Alaye wrote:
I cant thank you guys enough for all your help. I isolated the bad
memory stick removed it and been running my PC all day now.

Thank you Thank you Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL.

"Gerry" wrote:

Allaye

Not randomly bad. One can be good and one bad.

Have you run Spybot S & D yet? No anti-virus or anti-spyware software
has the capability to detect all malware all of the time.

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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Alaye wrote:
Thanx Daave and Gerry, I built the PC so those are suggestions that
seem reasonable to do.
Im still trying to figure out how to use the mem test from
elephantboys. i made floppy and booted on it but it doesnt work.

No the time zone setting is correct so that puzzling question
lingers. besides it was several hrs worth of activity that occurred
while frozen.

I'll try all you guys suggested and will let ya know how it turns
out. PS i never heard of randomly bad mem sticks, only good or bad .
"Gerry" wrote:

Alaye

In addition to what Daave is saying it is likely that your RAM
memory is made up of more than one stick and if so this offers a
simple way to check for faulty memory. Open the computer casing and
carefully remove one memory card (stick) from it's slot and run the
computer with it removed to see whether the problem occurs. Repeat
the process putting the first memory card back in and removing the
second memory card and test that card. Make sure you allow
sufficient time for an error to occur. When removing the card you
will need to lift a retaining clip each end of the memory card to
allow it to be removed. Take great care not to touch the
motherboard. You can also get an Anti-Static wrist band from a
computer store to prevent a static
electricity discharge from you damaging the motherboard.
http://www.ehow.com/how_895_install-ram.html


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Alaye wrote:
Thanx Daave, by freezing i mean the screen is stuck where it is.
the mouse doesnt respond and neither does ctrl-alt-delete. i have
to do a hard shut down turn the power supply button off. it
happens at all different times, i cannot say that such and such
causes it because it does it whenever.
i used msconfig to shut down ALL running applications and still it
froze.

now something else that i mentioned is that there is event log
activity during the time its frozen. it happened last night @
12:06 and i left the screen frozen there. this morning my screen
saver had kicked in but was frozen in mid animation...go figure.
i had to do a hard shut down and there were no error codes but
there was normal event codes information codes. i may be crazy
but it seems to NOT freeze if im playing windows media player
while i use it. maybe its a coincidence.
in addition there is nothing new on my PC its been this way w/
mcafee et al. since february.
i think the answer lies in the fact that it freezes while still
having activity. if it is hardware what could it be. the hard
drive checks 8 ways against the sun. is it RAM? if its the power
supply what part? power to the disks? iot doesnt make sense and
im thissssss close to callin M$ knowing they probably cant help
me.

i hope this was thorough enough. thanx for your help sir.

"Daave" wrote:

Alaye wrote:
lately my PC keeps freezing. No response no C-A-D nothing.

i have the latest drivers, cleaned, defragged, chkdsk, virus
scanned, vacuumed, and everything else that im supposed to do.
can any1 help me with this 1???

Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600

Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9 GenuineIntel ~2695
Mhz

Total Physical Memory 2,048.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 1.44 GB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
Page File Space 3.85 GB
drive 0 is 295GB w/ partitions 70/70/50/50
drive1 is 40 GB

Alaye, I have been following this thread and although you've
provided a lot of information, more is still needed.

First of all, please define "freeze." In another post you
mentioned this occurred during a virus scan. Did the system
itself freeze? Or did McAfee simply hang? Is the freeze
permanent or does it eventually resolve itself? Does this
behavior occur during other activities? Or is it only during
virus scans? I'd be tempted to ditch McAfee regardless; it's
quite the resource hog.

Have you tried running in Safe Mode? If there are no
hangs/freezes in Safe Mode, then I would try clean boot
troubleshooting:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/316434

If you would rather try a quicker (but less thorough) method,
just use msconfig. Uncheck half the items and see if you get any
freezes. If you don't, then you know the problem lies somewhere
in the other half. Narrow down further until you find the
culprit.

As Grand_Poobah suggested, this might very well be a hardware
issue. And since you stated Event Viewer did not show any Errors,
I have a feeling your problems are hardware-related (quite
possibly a flaky power supply). More information:

http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html




 




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