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XP Home based on Win ME but XP Pro based on NT ?
You are quite right, but the detergent manufacturer pays the washing machine
manufacturer to recommend and distribute samples of the soap. This is how it should work in the PC industry rather than the other way around. Jim "Opinicus" wrote in message ... JimC said: I have never seen a washing machine stamped with the Proctor & Gamble logo Actually I have seen washing machines being sold with a "Such-and-such detergent recommend" sticker and even with samples of them inside... -- Bob Kanyak's Doghouse http://kanyak.com |
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XP Home based on Win ME but XP Pro based on NT ?
No, Jim, my contempt is for people who post purely destructive comments on
what is meant to be helpful NG. XP is destructive my friend, what the hell you are talking about. "johnf" wrote in message ... JimC wrote: "johnf" wrote in message ... Bil Gates ******* wrote: The most unfriendly operating system for the novice user. You have to be a professional user, to run both home and pro. What also worse, for the littlest problem, the computer shuts down. Who is the stupid person that thought shutting the computer down in the middle of your work is a great idea. Works perfect with MS Office, that thing never ran right from day one, getting errors with office is a very common thing, if you don't save your work, then you are going to loose your work when the computer shuts down. (Never ever had a shut-down or problems with Office) I use to help people run their computer, I don't do it no more, XP has so many bugs is unbelievable, they make you a service pack, and the darn thing fixes some bugs but adds big new bugs. (Never caused any problems for me) main rant snipped Apparently another one who doesn't follow MS instructions, only thinks he knows all, so goes his own merry way with installs, upgrades & patches, then complains when things go wrong. One question. Why are you still using XP?? -- johnf Johnf, Your contempt for "another one who doesn't follow MS instructions," and your lack of empathy are less than admirable. Your "follow MS instructions" sounds a lot like "follow Saddam's instructions!" Most folks don't ask for XP help because they selected XP of their own free will. For new PC systems, XP is shoved down everyone's throat by the Redmond regime's stranglehold on the OEMs. A new Dell or Gatweay machine comes with Microsoft product EULAs that provide users with fewer rights and less protection than most terrorists enjoy. --Jim No, Jim, my contempt is for people who post purely destructive comments on what is meant to be helpful NG. It must be very disconcerting for relative newbies who have just purchased XP, coming to the NG seeking a solution to a, probably minor, problem & reading something like that. It sure would give me second thoughts as to whether I'd done the right thing. And AFAIK, Dell & Gateway (also HP) modify the basic XP program towards their own means - look what happened to HP OS's when SP1 was first released. To me, that can't be hung on MS. -- johnf |
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XP Home based on Win ME but XP Pro based on NT ?
Absolute BS, when was it in recent history acceptable for a computer
manufacturer to offer anything but the latest and most widely compatible OS BS One month after XP was released, not one company had the option to buy Win98. If they did it was an older or refurbished machine. purchase a system with Linux That doesn't make any sense. When a user put their trust in MS for so many years, you say go Linux. That proves that MS doesn't care about their customers whether they are satisfied or not. "Michael Stevens" wrote in message ... JimC wrote: "johnf" wrote in message ... Bil Gates ******* wrote: The most unfriendly operating system for the novice user. You have to be a professional user, to run both home and pro. What also worse, for the littlest problem, the computer shuts down. Who is the stupid person that thought shutting the computer down in the middle of your work is a great idea. Works perfect with MS Office, that thing never ran right from day one, getting errors with office is a very common thing, if you don't save your work, then you are going to loose your work when the computer shuts down. (Never ever had a shut-down or problems with Office) I use to help people run their computer, I don't do it no more, XP has so many bugs is unbelievable, they make you a service pack, and the darn thing fixes some bugs but adds big new bugs. (Never caused any problems for me) main rant snipped Apparently another one who doesn't follow MS instructions, only thinks he knows all, so goes his own merry way with installs, upgrades & patches, then complains when things go wrong. One question. Why are you still using XP?? -- johnf Johnf, Your contempt for "another one who doesn't follow MS instructions," and your lack of empathy are less than admirable. Your "follow MS instructions" sounds a lot like "follow Saddam's instructions!" Most folks don't ask for XP help because they selected XP of their own free will. For new PC systems, XP is shoved down everyone's throat by the Redmond regime's stranglehold on the OEMs. A new Dell or Gatweay machine comes with Microsoft product EULAs that provide users with fewer rights and less protection than most terrorists enjoy. --Jim Absolute BS, when was it in recent history acceptable for a computer manufacturer to offer anything but the latest and most widely compatible OS as their main product? If anyone is so aggrieved with purchasing a computer with XP installed, they only have to go as far as their nearest Wall to purchase a system with Linux installed or purchase a custom system from a local vendor or build it themselves. The OEM's are in business to make a profit and they will supply the product that will give the least volume of support for the software they expect will be used on the supplied OS. -- Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP http://michaelstevenstech.com |
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XP Home based on Win ME but XP Pro based on NT ?
BGB,
May I suggest you abandon your normal male penchant for not reading the I have been around longer than you. I don't have to listen to your blind ignorant support to MS. "Michael Stevens" wrote in message ... Bil Gates ******* wrote: The most unfriendly operating system for the novice user. You have to be a professional user, to run both home and pro. Yes, both home and pro belong to the NT family. Something MS never wanted to do, but they can't make money from support if they make it easy, so they decided to nail those customers that made them to be the richest company in the world. Gates have enough money to last his family hundred of years, but he is trying to buy heaven now, so he can nail his customers after he dies. MS now doesn't care whether you are a happy customer or not, and they don't care if you never bought from them ever again, because they can make money by nailing others, wasting their time and money, try to impress them with their worthless over engineered programs. Yes, it is more stable, but sometimes it dogs it, and can't be restored. You simply have to install clean when it does, it doesn't even reinstall on top the old install, because the stupid thing asks for Administrator password but it can't recognize it. To find your mail files, you have to dig for them 10 folders deep, in a weird very long directory name. Scew your mail box he says, you don't need to find it. If you don't know how to secure and configure XP, then every body on the internet can access your computer, play with your files and do as they please. What also worse, for the littlest problem, the computer shuts down. Who is the stupid person that thought shutting the computer down in the middle of your work is a great idea. Works perfect with MS Office, that thing never ran right from day one, getting errors with office is a very common thing, if you don't save your work, then you are going to loose your work when the computer shuts down. MS never made a good running product, they always do something new, with more bugs, tougher bugs, and harder to use. Look back in their history, from DOS days until today, non of the products they made was at least reasonable. I use to help people run their computer, I don't do it no more, XP has so many bugs is unbelievable, they make you a service pack, and the darn thing fixes some bugs but adds big new bugs. So you would call MS and pay for support. Not as cheap as Win95, because this is serious NT support. Their support are a bunch of ignorant idiots. In the past they had mediocre support, now they have stupid ignorant agencies doing their support. BGB, May I suggest you abandon your normal male penchant for not reading the manual and actually learn what you are talking about. If you find using XP unfriendly, you have some serious learning disorders. Every example you gave was a smoking gun pointing out how ill informed you are. Maybe it is just the accelerated pace of technology that has you confused. Do you also find programming your DVD or VCR player a challenge? Maybe that remote with the ability to control more than one device is the same frustration. I see your frequent posts, and usually just shake my head in amusement. But I am beginning to feel sorry for you, either you are a pre-teen with serious lack of parental supervision, or an ill informed adult. In either case your posts are getting painful to ignore. Where in the computer owners manual does it say this computer was expressly built for stupid ill informed people that refuse to learn how to use them? BTW From your recent posts, you are probably doing people a favor not offering your help. -- Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP http://michaelstevenstech.com |
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misguided rant who is new to XP or thinking of getting it just ignore the
You are blind my friend. How can I make a blind man see. ? "HillBillyBuddhist" wrote in message ... I read this post and figured it was an attempt at sarcastic humor. Then I read the responses and discovered "Bil" was serious. A heavy sigh is the most emotion I can generate for this poor fellow. To anyone reading "Bil's" misguided rant who is new to XP or thinking of getting it just ignore the post. For anyone who has to drive in "Bil's" neighborhood we will say a prayer for you and hope he spent more time learning the rules of the road than he did learning to work Windows. D "Bil Gates *******" wrote in message ... The most unfriendly operating system for the novice user. You have to be a professional user, to run both home and pro. Yes, both home and pro belong to the NT family. Something MS never wanted to do, but they can't make money from support if they make it easy, so they decided to nail those customers that made them to be the richest company in the world. Gates have enough money to last his family hundred of years, but he is trying to buy heaven now, so he can nail his customers after he dies. MS now doesn't care whether you are a happy customer or not, and they don't care if you never bought from them ever again, because they can make money by nailing others, wasting their time and money, try to impress them with their worthless over engineered programs. Yes, it is more stable, but sometimes it dogs it, and can't be restored. You simply have to install clean when it does, it doesn't even reinstall on top the old install, because the stupid thing asks for Administrator password but it can't recognize it. To find your mail files, you have to dig for them 10 folders deep, in a weird very long directory name. Scew your mail box he says, you don't need to find it. If you don't know how to secure and configure XP, then every body on the internet can access your computer, play with your files and do as they please. What also worse, for the littlest problem, the computer shuts down. Who is the stupid person that thought shutting the computer down in the middle of your work is a great idea. Works perfect with MS Office, that thing never ran right from day one, getting errors with office is a very common thing, if you don't save your work, then you are going to loose your work when the computer shuts down. MS never made a good running product, they always do something new, with more bugs, tougher bugs, and harder to use. Look back in their history, from DOS days until today, non of the products they made was at least reasonable. I use to help people run their computer, I don't do it no more, XP has so many bugs is unbelievable, they make you a service pack, and the darn thing fixes some bugs but adds big new bugs. So you would call MS and pay for support. Not as cheap as Win95, because this is serious NT support. Their support are a bunch of ignorant idiots. In the past they had mediocre support, now they have stupid ignorant agencies doing their support. "Paul Williams" wrote in message om... Hi, I've been told that XP Home is based on Windows ME (and as such is not very good), whereas XP Pro is based on Windows NT and is much better in terms of stability etc. However, I was under the impression that XP Home was just a cut down version of XP Pro with less features. I also assumed that it was a bit of an attempt by Microsoft to position each prodcut in the market. Anybody got any comments on this? |
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Negative stuff that you here about XP Home Edition is not inherited
It is inherited from greedy stupid company. "JimC" wrote in message ... From a user's perspective, both versions of XP are simply the newest siblings in the Windows NT family of operating systems: Win NT Win 2000 Win XP. Negative stuff that you here about XP Home Edition is not inherited from Win ME. What you have probably heard is nothing more than grousing about the learning curve that confronts home users who jump from the W95/98/ME family into the WinNT/2000/XP family. --Jim "Paul Williams" wrote in message om... Hi, I've been told that XP Home is based on Windows ME (and as such is not very good), whereas XP Pro is based on Windows NT and is much better in terms of stability etc. However, I was under the impression that XP Home was just a cut down version of XP Pro with less features. I also assumed that it was a bit of an attempt by Microsoft to position each prodcut in the market. Anybody got any comments on this? |
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(Never ever had a shut-down or problems with Office)
You must have not been around computer users. (Never caused any problems for me) Because you know the surface stuff, you haven't been around. "johnf" wrote in message ... Bil Gates ******* wrote: The most unfriendly operating system for the novice user. You have to be a professional user, to run both home and pro. What also worse, for the littlest problem, the computer shuts down. Who is the stupid person that thought shutting the computer down in the middle of your work is a great idea. Works perfect with MS Office, that thing never ran right from day one, getting errors with office is a very common thing, if you don't save your work, then you are going to loose your work when the computer shuts down. (Never ever had a shut-down or problems with Office) I use to help people run their computer, I don't do it no more, XP has so many bugs is unbelievable, they make you a service pack, and the darn thing fixes some bugs but adds big new bugs. (Never caused any problems for me) main rant snipped Apparently another one who doesn't follow MS instructions, only thinks he knows all, so goes his own merry way with installs, upgrades & patches, then complains when things go wrong. One question. Why are you still using XP?? -- johnf |
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One question. Why are you still using XP??
Just to see why people are having problems installing program, and to see the weirdo operating system. Fancy icons don't impress me, 70% of the population suffer poor vision, add novice to it, then good luck. Yes pro you and pro Gates should have no problem, but you saying screw every body else. 70% of the people don't know how to configure a simple VCR. Those high tech gadgets might be fun for people that have nothing else to do. And surely are not for the busy business man and busy people. Yes, people continue to buy computers, but after buying them, they become an unusable fixture in the house for many. "johnf" wrote in message ... Bil Gates ******* wrote: The most unfriendly operating system for the novice user. You have to be a professional user, to run both home and pro. What also worse, for the littlest problem, the computer shuts down. Who is the stupid person that thought shutting the computer down in the middle of your work is a great idea. Works perfect with MS Office, that thing never ran right from day one, getting errors with office is a very common thing, if you don't save your work, then you are going to loose your work when the computer shuts down. (Never ever had a shut-down or problems with Office) I use to help people run their computer, I don't do it no more, XP has so many bugs is unbelievable, they make you a service pack, and the darn thing fixes some bugs but adds big new bugs. (Never caused any problems for me) main rant snipped Apparently another one who doesn't follow MS instructions, only thinks he knows all, so goes his own merry way with installs, upgrades & patches, then complains when things go wrong. One question. Why are you still using XP?? -- johnf |
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yawn.....
"Bil Gates *******" wrote in message ... misguided rant who is new to XP or thinking of getting it just ignore the You are blind my friend. How can I make a blind man see. ? "HillBillyBuddhist" wrote in message ... I read this post and figured it was an attempt at sarcastic humor. Then I read the responses and discovered "Bil" was serious. A heavy sigh is the most emotion I can generate for this poor fellow. To anyone reading "Bil's" misguided rant who is new to XP or thinking of getting it just ignore the post. For anyone who has to drive in "Bil's" neighborhood we will say a prayer for you and hope he spent more time learning the rules of the road than he did learning to work Windows. D "Bil Gates *******" wrote in message ... The most unfriendly operating system for the novice user. You have to be a professional user, to run both home and pro. |
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You could, of course, go to Walmart and purchase a PC that comes with Linux.
Cari www.coribright.com "JimC" wrote in message ... Your contempt for "another one who doesn't follow MS instructions," and your lack of empathy are less than admirable. Your "follow MS instructions" sounds a lot like "follow Saddam's instructions!" Most folks don't ask for XP help because they selected XP of their own free will. For new PC systems, XP is shoved down everyone's throat by the Redmond regime's stranglehold on the OEMs. A new Dell or Gatweay machine comes with Microsoft product EULAs that provide users with fewer rights and less protection than most terrorists enjoy. --Jim |
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Xref: 127.0.0.1 microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:536828 microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics:99127 microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers:70380
His posts are not painful to ignore! They are a pleasure to ignore. What do you expect of someone so immature, emotional and lacking common sense? "Michael Stevens" wrote in message ... Bil Gates ******* wrote: The most unfriendly operating system for the novice user. You have to be a professional user, to run both home and pro. Yes, both home and pro belong to the NT family. Something MS never wanted to do, but they can't make money from support if they make it easy, so they decided to nail those customers that made them to be the richest company in the world. Gates have enough money to last his family hundred of years, but he is trying to buy heaven now, so he can nail his customers after he dies. MS now doesn't care whether you are a happy customer or not, and they don't care if you never bought from them ever again, because they can make money by nailing others, wasting their time and money, try to impress them with their worthless over engineered programs. Yes, it is more stable, but sometimes it dogs it, and can't be restored. You simply have to install clean when it does, it doesn't even reinstall on top the old install, because the stupid thing asks for Administrator password but it can't recognize it. To find your mail files, you have to dig for them 10 folders deep, in a weird very long directory name. Scew your mail box he says, you don't need to find it. If you don't know how to secure and configure XP, then every body on the internet can access your computer, play with your files and do as they please. What also worse, for the littlest problem, the computer shuts down. Who is the stupid person that thought shutting the computer down in the middle of your work is a great idea. Works perfect with MS Office, that thing never ran right from day one, getting errors with office is a very common thing, if you don't save your work, then you are going to loose your work when the computer shuts down. MS never made a good running product, they always do something new, with more bugs, tougher bugs, and harder to use. Look back in their history, from DOS days until today, non of the products they made was at least reasonable. I use to help people run their computer, I don't do it no more, XP has so many bugs is unbelievable, they make you a service pack, and the darn thing fixes some bugs but adds big new bugs. So you would call MS and pay for support. Not as cheap as Win95, because this is serious NT support. Their support are a bunch of ignorant idiots. In the past they had mediocre support, now they have stupid ignorant agencies doing their support. BGB, May I suggest you abandon your normal male penchant for not reading the manual and actually learn what you are talking about. If you find using XP unfriendly, you have some serious learning disorders. Every example you gave was a smoking gun pointing out how ill informed you are. Maybe it is just the accelerated pace of technology that has you confused. Do you also find programming your DVD or VCR player a challenge? Maybe that remote with the ability to control more than one device is the same frustration. I see your frequent posts, and usually just shake my head in amusement. But I am beginning to feel sorry for you, either you are a pre-teen with serious lack of parental supervision, or an ill informed adult. In either case your posts are getting painful to ignore. Where in the computer owners manual does it say this computer was expressly built for stupid ill informed people that refuse to learn how to use them? BTW From your recent posts, you are probably doing people a favor not offering your help. -- Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP http://michaelstevenstech.com |
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I think it is not possible to make YOU see, however, why don't you get a
mirror, look into it and ask the person you see why he's such an ass? "Bil Gates *******" wrote in message ... misguided rant who is new to XP or thinking of getting it just ignore the You are blind my friend. How can I make a blind man see. ? "HillBillyBuddhist" wrote in message ... I read this post and figured it was an attempt at sarcastic humor. Then I read the responses and discovered "Bil" was serious. A heavy sigh is the most emotion I can generate for this poor fellow. To anyone reading "Bil's" misguided rant who is new to XP or thinking of getting it just ignore the post. For anyone who has to drive in "Bil's" neighborhood we will say a prayer for you and hope he spent more time learning the rules of the road than he did learning to work Windows. D "Bil Gates *******" wrote in message ... The most unfriendly operating system for the novice user. You have to be a professional user, to run both home and pro. Yes, both home and pro belong to the NT family. Something MS never wanted to do, but they can't make money from support if they make it easy, so they decided to nail those customers that made them to be the richest company in the world. Gates have enough money to last his family hundred of years, but he is trying to buy heaven now, so he can nail his customers after he dies. MS now doesn't care whether you are a happy customer or not, and they don't care if you never bought from them ever again, because they can make money by nailing others, wasting their time and money, try to impress them with their worthless over engineered programs. Yes, it is more stable, but sometimes it dogs it, and can't be restored. You simply have to install clean when it does, it doesn't even reinstall on top the old install, because the stupid thing asks for Administrator password but it can't recognize it. To find your mail files, you have to dig for them 10 folders deep, in a weird very long directory name. Scew your mail box he says, you don't need to find it. If you don't know how to secure and configure XP, then every body on the internet can access your computer, play with your files and do as they please. What also worse, for the littlest problem, the computer shuts down. Who is the stupid person that thought shutting the computer down in the middle of your work is a great idea. Works perfect with MS Office, that thing never ran right from day one, getting errors with office is a very common thing, if you don't save your work, then you are going to loose your work when the computer shuts down. MS never made a good running product, they always do something new, with more bugs, tougher bugs, and harder to use. Look back in their history, from DOS days until today, non of the products they made was at least reasonable. I use to help people run their computer, I don't do it no more, XP has so many bugs is unbelievable, they make you a service pack, and the darn thing fixes some bugs but adds big new bugs. So you would call MS and pay for support. Not as cheap as Win95, because this is serious NT support. Their support are a bunch of ignorant idiots. In the past they had mediocre support, now they have stupid ignorant agencies doing their support. "Paul Williams" wrote in message om... Hi, I've been told that XP Home is based on Windows ME (and as such is not very good), whereas XP Pro is based on Windows NT and is much better in terms of stability etc. However, I was under the impression that XP Home was just a cut down version of XP Pro with less features. I also assumed that it was a bit of an attempt by Microsoft to position each prodcut in the market. Anybody got any comments on this? |
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Me too.
BGB (well he got the list part of his name right) is a typical example of know-all BS - or more likely trolling? -- johnf HillBillyBuddhist wrote: yawn..... "Bil Gates *******" wrote in message ... misguided rant who is new to XP or thinking of getting it just ignore the You are blind my friend. How can I make a blind man see. ? "HillBillyBuddhist" wrote in message ... I read this post and figured it was an attempt at sarcastic humor. Then I read the responses and discovered "Bil" was serious. A heavy sigh is the most emotion I can generate for this poor fellow. To anyone reading "Bil's" misguided rant who is new to XP or thinking of getting it just ignore the post. For anyone who has to drive in "Bil's" neighborhood we will say a prayer for you and hope he spent more time learning the rules of the road than he did learning to work Windows. D "Bil Gates *******" wrote in message ... The most unfriendly operating system for the novice user. You have to be a professional user, to run both home and pro. |
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Greetings --
And here I was wishing they'd stop "dumbing down" the Windows interface and allow me more granular control of processes and resources. It's a real pita to get past all of the GUI "aids" to get to the nuts & bolts of the computer's operation. ;-} Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html ---- You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once. -- RAH "Bil Gates *******" wrote in message ... The most unfriendly operating system for the novice user. You have to be a professional user, to run both home and pro. Snipped.... |
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