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  #16  
Old June 5th 08, 12:54 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
DL
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,774
Default Antivirus pop up

Let me spell it out, you have Anti Virus software supplied by Aliant you
DONT have spyware / malaware protection software.
The two are different, requiring different products to scan / protect /
remove

What is immaterial is the pop-up blocker,Form Filler & Privacy Manager

a.. Powerful **virus scanner** scans all files, applications, diskettes and
CD-ROM's on your computer
a.. "Always-on" protection that works in the background automatically
**scanning for viruses**
a.. Automatically updates with the latest virus information

"Ray &Fran" wrote in message
...
The anti spyware application should not be immaterial since you need to
pay
additional for the coverage
All are billed separately see info at link

http://productsandservice.aliant.net...jsp&curbody=59


--
Fran


"DL" address@invalid wrote in message
...
| According to Aliant its an anti virus application, not spyware, the
other
| included items are immaterial.
|
| As previously stated your PC is infected with malaware / trojans
|
| "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| ...
| So even though Aliant tells me I have anti spyware protection I do not
|
| --
| Fran
|
|
| "smlunatick" wrote in message
|
...
| On Jun 3, 11:18 am, "Ray &Fran" wrote:
| No the anti virus ,Anti spyware ,Fraud protection , Privacy manager
and
| Pop
| up blocker is installed on my Pc . It updates regularly and scans
both
pc
| and e-mail The whole pkg . I am in Nova Scotia with Aliant and the
whole
| thing is called Aliant security service . I thought I was covered
|
| --
| Fran
|
| "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
|
| ...
| | Your PC is infected with spyware / malaware, which is not the same
or
| | detected by anti virus apps.
| | You say you have AV from your ISP, but is this installed on your PC
or
| is
| it
| | only AV on your mail?
| |
| | Download update & run all of these;
| | MS Defender (from MS)
| | SpyBot
| | Adaware
| | All are free
| |
| |
| | "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| ...
| | Hi folks .
| | I have a question for all you experts . I have windows XP home
| edition
| SP2
| | . I try to keep it updated with all necessary updates and I have
Anti
| | Virus
| | protection From My ISP . Lately I have found while surfing some
web
| sites
| | I
| | will get a pop up that looks like an EXE program and says my
computer
| may
| | be
| | infected with a virus . The latest one today looked like a
Microsoft
| | warning
| | with the little colored security logo on the top and it started
| scanning
| | .It said it found a Trojan If I try to cancel ,close or exit it
does
| not
| | seem to want to cancel or close . I need to do CTRL,Alt,DEl end
task
| to
| | get
| | it to stop and end . How would I know if it were really from
| Microsoft
| ???
| | I
| | usually do a virus scan to see If I have any viruses but It says
| nothing
| | found
| |
| | --
| | Fran
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
| These so-called "service" anti-virus security softwares are in my
| opinion bogus! The is no software that can protect you 100%. You
| still should install and run the mentioned spyware removal tools since
| spywares/malwars are not in the same category as viruses and those
| security system may not protect you from these.
|
| Better safe than sorry!
|
|
|
|




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  #17  
Old June 5th 08, 12:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Ray &Fran
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 23
Default Antivirus pop up

Thanks DL for your Input.
I do know what the virus scanner does and I have it set as you suggested

I also know that the popup blocker,form filler and privacy manager are just
little extras they provide and all are working on my PC since I have them
turned ON

I would like to know why you say I do not have spyware/malware protection
by Aliant ? I pay the monthly charge for the product . It is turned on in
MY services . I receive notices of anti spyware updates during the day and
I have my PC set for scheduled spyware scans . If Aliant does not have this
software then I am paying monthly for a service I am not getting . Just
curious .

I will download the freeware just to be safe

--
Fran


"DL" address@invalid wrote in message
...
| Let me spell it out, you have Anti Virus software supplied by Aliant you
| DONT have spyware / malaware protection software.
| The two are different, requiring different products to scan / protect /
| remove
|
| What is immaterial is the pop-up blocker,Form Filler & Privacy Manager
|
| a.. Powerful **virus scanner** scans all files, applications, diskettes
and
| CD-ROM's on your computer
| a.. "Always-on" protection that works in the background automatically
| **scanning for viruses**
| a.. Automatically updates with the latest virus information
|
| "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| ...
| The anti spyware application should not be immaterial since you need to
| pay
| additional for the coverage
| All are billed separately see info at link
|
|
http://productsandservice.aliant.net...jsp&curbody=59
|
|
| --
| Fran
|
|
| "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
| ...
| | According to Aliant its an anti virus application, not spyware, the
| other
| | included items are immaterial.
| |
| | As previously stated your PC is infected with malaware / trojans
| |
| | "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| | ...
| | So even though Aliant tells me I have anti spyware protection I do
not
| |
| | --
| | Fran
| |
| |
| | "smlunatick" wrote in message
| |
|
...
| | On Jun 3, 11:18 am, "Ray &Fran" wrote:
| | No the anti virus ,Anti spyware ,Fraud protection , Privacy manager
| and
| | Pop
| | up blocker is installed on my Pc . It updates regularly and scans
| both
| pc
| | and e-mail The whole pkg . I am in Nova Scotia with Aliant and the
| whole
| | thing is called Aliant security service . I thought I was covered
| |
| | --
| | Fran
| |
| | "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
| |
| | ...
| | | Your PC is infected with spyware / malaware, which is not the
same
| or
| | | detected by anti virus apps.
| | | You say you have AV from your ISP, but is this installed on your
PC
| or
| | is
| | it
| | | only AV on your mail?
| | |
| | | Download update & run all of these;
| | | MS Defender (from MS)
| | | SpyBot
| | | Adaware
| | | All are free
| | |
| | |
| | | "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | Hi folks .
| | | I have a question for all you experts . I have windows XP home
| | edition
| | SP2
| | | . I try to keep it updated with all necessary updates and I
have
| Anti
| | | Virus
| | | protection From My ISP . Lately I have found while surfing some
| web
| | sites
| | | I
| | | will get a pop up that looks like an EXE program and says my
| computer
| | may
| | | be
| | | infected with a virus . The latest one today looked like a
| Microsoft
| | | warning
| | | with the little colored security logo on the top and it started
| | scanning
| | | .It said it found a Trojan If I try to cancel ,close or exit it
| does
| | not
| | | seem to want to cancel or close . I need to do CTRL,Alt,DEl end
| task
| | to
| | | get
| | | it to stop and end . How would I know if it were really from
| | Microsoft
| | ???
| | | I
| | | usually do a virus scan to see If I have any viruses but It
says
| | nothing
| | | found
| | |
| | | --
| | | Fran
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| | These so-called "service" anti-virus security softwares are in my
| | opinion bogus! The is no software that can protect you 100%. You
| | still should install and run the mentioned spyware removal tools
since
| | spywares/malwars are not in the same category as viruses and those
| | security system may not protect you from these.
| |
| | Better safe than sorry!
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|


  #18  
Old June 5th 08, 03:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
DL
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,774
Default Antivirus pop up

You need to understand that Virus and Malaware/Trojans are different types
of infections.
AntiVirus applications generally do not have a good record of detecting this
type of spyware, though they may deal effectively with viruses.
Your anti virus definitions are being updated, that is the notices you
receive.

Your PC is infected with malaware, for this you need separate applications,
the ones below are all free
MS Defender is free and has real time scanning, ie it runs in the background
like your AV app.
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx
SpyBot is free - you have to explicitly run it to scan your PC
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html
Adaware have a free version - once again you have to manually scan
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.php

You should download update & run all three
NB None of the above are a replacement for an anti virus application, eg as
supplied by Aliant

"Ray &Fran" wrote in message
...
Thanks DL for your Input.
I do know what the virus scanner does and I have it set as you suggested

I also know that the popup blocker,form filler and privacy manager are
just
little extras they provide and all are working on my PC since I have them
turned ON

I would like to know why you say I do not have spyware/malware protection
by Aliant ? I pay the monthly charge for the product . It is turned on in
MY services . I receive notices of anti spyware updates during the day
and
I have my PC set for scheduled spyware scans . If Aliant does not have
this
software then I am paying monthly for a service I am not getting . Just
curious .

I will download the freeware just to be safe

--
Fran


"DL" address@invalid wrote in message
...
| Let me spell it out, you have Anti Virus software supplied by Aliant you
| DONT have spyware / malaware protection software.
| The two are different, requiring different products to scan / protect /
| remove
|
| What is immaterial is the pop-up blocker,Form Filler & Privacy Manager
|
| a.. Powerful **virus scanner** scans all files, applications, diskettes
and
| CD-ROM's on your computer
| a.. "Always-on" protection that works in the background automatically
| **scanning for viruses**
| a.. Automatically updates with the latest virus information
|
| "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| ...
| The anti spyware application should not be immaterial since you need
to
| pay
| additional for the coverage
| All are billed separately see info at link
|
|
http://productsandservice.aliant.net...jsp&curbody=59
|
|
| --
| Fran
|
|
| "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
| ...
| | According to Aliant its an anti virus application, not spyware, the
| other
| | included items are immaterial.
| |
| | As previously stated your PC is infected with malaware / trojans
| |
| | "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| | ...
| | So even though Aliant tells me I have anti spyware protection I do
not
| |
| | --
| | Fran
| |
| |
| | "smlunatick" wrote in message
| |
|
...
| | On Jun 3, 11:18 am, "Ray &Fran" wrote:
| | No the anti virus ,Anti spyware ,Fraud protection , Privacy
manager
| and
| | Pop
| | up blocker is installed on my Pc . It updates regularly and scans
| both
| pc
| | and e-mail The whole pkg . I am in Nova Scotia with Aliant and
the
| whole
| | thing is called Aliant security service . I thought I was covered
| |
| | --
| | Fran
| |
| | "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
| |
| | ...
| | | Your PC is infected with spyware / malaware, which is not the
same
| or
| | | detected by anti virus apps.
| | | You say you have AV from your ISP, but is this installed on
your
PC
| or
| | is
| | it
| | | only AV on your mail?
| | |
| | | Download update & run all of these;
| | | MS Defender (from MS)
| | | SpyBot
| | | Adaware
| | | All are free
| | |
| | |
| | | "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | Hi folks .
| | | I have a question for all you experts . I have windows XP
home
| | edition
| | SP2
| | | . I try to keep it updated with all necessary updates and I
have
| Anti
| | | Virus
| | | protection From My ISP . Lately I have found while surfing
some
| web
| | sites
| | | I
| | | will get a pop up that looks like an EXE program and says my
| computer
| | may
| | | be
| | | infected with a virus . The latest one today looked like a
| Microsoft
| | | warning
| | | with the little colored security logo on the top and it
started
| | scanning
| | | .It said it found a Trojan If I try to cancel ,close or exit
it
| does
| | not
| | | seem to want to cancel or close . I need to do CTRL,Alt,DEl
end
| task
| | to
| | | get
| | | it to stop and end . How would I know if it were really from
| | Microsoft
| | ???
| | | I
| | | usually do a virus scan to see If I have any viruses but It
says
| | nothing
| | | found
| | |
| | | --
| | | Fran
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| | These so-called "service" anti-virus security softwares are in my
| | opinion bogus! The is no software that can protect you 100%. You
| | still should install and run the mentioned spyware removal tools
since
| | spywares/malwars are not in the same category as viruses and those
| | security system may not protect you from these.
| |
| | Better safe than sorry!
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|




  #19  
Old June 5th 08, 03:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Ray &Fran
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 23
Default Antivirus pop up

do realize that Virus and Malaware/Trojans are different types
of infections.
I will download your suggestions. This is an item I am paying for should I
cancel this and save some money or is it useful and keep it

http://productsandservice.aliant.net...9&subsection=7

--
Fran


"DL" address@invalid wrote in message
...
| You need to understand that Virus and Malaware/Trojans are different types
| of infections.
| AntiVirus applications generally do not have a good record of detecting
this
| type of spyware, though they may deal effectively with viruses.
| Your anti virus definitions are being updated, that is the notices you
| receive.
|
| Your PC is infected with malaware, for this you need separate
applications,
| the ones below are all free
| MS Defender is free and has real time scanning, ie it runs in the
background
| like your AV app.
| http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx
| SpyBot is free - you have to explicitly run it to scan your PC
| http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html
| Adaware have a free version - once again you have to manually scan
| http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.php
|
| You should download update & run all three
| NB None of the above are a replacement for an anti virus application, eg
as
| supplied by Aliant
|
| "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| ...
| Thanks DL for your Input.
| I do know what the virus scanner does and I have it set as you
suggested
|
| I also know that the popup blocker,form filler and privacy manager are
| just
| little extras they provide and all are working on my PC since I have
them
| turned ON
|
| I would like to know why you say I do not have spyware/malware
protection
| by Aliant ? I pay the monthly charge for the product . It is turned on
in
| MY services . I receive notices of anti spyware updates during the day
| and
| I have my PC set for scheduled spyware scans . If Aliant does not have
| this
| software then I am paying monthly for a service I am not getting . Just
| curious .
|
| I will download the freeware just to be safe
|
| --
| Fran
|
|
| "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
| ...
| | Let me spell it out, you have Anti Virus software supplied by Aliant
you
| | DONT have spyware / malaware protection software.
| | The two are different, requiring different products to scan / protect
/
| | remove
| |
| | What is immaterial is the pop-up blocker,Form Filler & Privacy Manager
| |
| | a.. Powerful **virus scanner** scans all files, applications,
diskettes
| and
| | CD-ROM's on your computer
| | a.. "Always-on" protection that works in the background automatically
| | **scanning for viruses**
| | a.. Automatically updates with the latest virus information
| |
| | "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| | ...
| | The anti spyware application should not be immaterial since you need
| to
| | pay
| | additional for the coverage
| | All are billed separately see info at link
| |
| |
|
http://productsandservice.aliant.net...jsp&curbody=59
| |
| |
| | --
| | Fran
| |
| |
| | "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
| | ...
| | | According to Aliant its an anti virus application, not spyware,
the
| | other
| | | included items are immaterial.
| | |
| | | As previously stated your PC is infected with malaware / trojans
| | |
| | | "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | So even though Aliant tells me I have anti spyware protection I
do
| not
| | |
| | | --
| | | Fran
| | |
| | |
| | | "smlunatick" wrote in message
| | |
| |
|
...
| | | On Jun 3, 11:18 am, "Ray &Fran"
wrote:
| | | No the anti virus ,Anti spyware ,Fraud protection , Privacy
| manager
| | and
| | | Pop
| | | up blocker is installed on my Pc . It updates regularly and
scans
| | both
| | pc
| | | and e-mail The whole pkg . I am in Nova Scotia with Aliant and
| the
| | whole
| | | thing is called Aliant security service . I thought I was
covered
| | |
| | | --
| | | Fran
| | |
| | | "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
| | |
| | | ...
| | | | Your PC is infected with spyware / malaware, which is not the
| same
| | or
| | | | detected by anti virus apps.
| | | | You say you have AV from your ISP, but is this installed on
| your
| PC
| | or
| | | is
| | | it
| | | | only AV on your mail?
| | | |
| | | | Download update & run all of these;
| | | | MS Defender (from MS)
| | | | SpyBot
| | | | Adaware
| | | | All are free
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | | Hi folks .
| | | | I have a question for all you experts . I have windows XP
| home
| | | edition
| | | SP2
| | | | . I try to keep it updated with all necessary updates and I
| have
| | Anti
| | | | Virus
| | | | protection From My ISP . Lately I have found while surfing
| some
| | web
| | | sites
| | | | I
| | | | will get a pop up that looks like an EXE program and says
my
| | computer
| | | may
| | | | be
| | | | infected with a virus . The latest one today looked like a
| | Microsoft
| | | | warning
| | | | with the little colored security logo on the top and it
| started
| | | scanning
| | | | .It said it found a Trojan If I try to cancel ,close or
exit
| it
| | does
| | | not
| | | | seem to want to cancel or close . I need to do CTRL,Alt,DEl
| end
| | task
| | | to
| | | | get
| | | | it to stop and end . How would I know if it were really
from
| | | Microsoft
| | | ???
| | | | I
| | | | usually do a virus scan to see If I have any viruses but It
| says
| | | nothing
| | | | found
| | | |
| | | | --
| | | | Fran
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | |
| | | These so-called "service" anti-virus security softwares are in
my
| | | opinion bogus! The is no software that can protect you 100%.
You
| | | still should install and run the mentioned spyware removal tools
| since
| | | spywares/malwars are not in the same category as viruses and
those
| | | security system may not protect you from these.
| | |
| | | Better safe than sorry!
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|


  #20  
Old June 5th 08, 08:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
DL
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,774
Default Antivirus pop up

Don't cancel it, unless you replace to with another Antivirus application
You still don't seem to understand; the two types of infections need
different applications to protect / detect them
ie both an Antivirus appliction together with Spyware/malaware detection
applications

"Ray &Fran" wrote in message
...
do realize that Virus and Malaware/Trojans are different types
of infections.
I will download your suggestions. This is an item I am paying for should I
cancel this and save some money or is it useful and keep it

http://productsandservice.aliant.net...9&subsection=7

--
Fran


"DL" address@invalid wrote in message
...
| You need to understand that Virus and Malaware/Trojans are different
types
| of infections.
| AntiVirus applications generally do not have a good record of detecting
this
| type of spyware, though they may deal effectively with viruses.
| Your anti virus definitions are being updated, that is the notices you
| receive.
|
| Your PC is infected with malaware, for this you need separate
applications,
| the ones below are all free
| MS Defender is free and has real time scanning, ie it runs in the
background
| like your AV app.
| http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx
| SpyBot is free - you have to explicitly run it to scan your PC
| http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html
| Adaware have a free version - once again you have to manually scan
| http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.php
|
| You should download update & run all three
| NB None of the above are a replacement for an anti virus application, eg
as
| supplied by Aliant
|
| "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| ...
| Thanks DL for your Input.
| I do know what the virus scanner does and I have it set as you
suggested
|
| I also know that the popup blocker,form filler and privacy manager are
| just
| little extras they provide and all are working on my PC since I have
them
| turned ON
|
| I would like to know why you say I do not have spyware/malware
protection
| by Aliant ? I pay the monthly charge for the product . It is turned
on
in
| MY services . I receive notices of anti spyware updates during the day
| and
| I have my PC set for scheduled spyware scans . If Aliant does not have
| this
| software then I am paying monthly for a service I am not getting .
Just
| curious .
|
| I will download the freeware just to be safe
|
| --
| Fran
|
|
| "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
| ...
| | Let me spell it out, you have Anti Virus software supplied by Aliant
you
| | DONT have spyware / malaware protection software.
| | The two are different, requiring different products to scan /
protect
/
| | remove
| |
| | What is immaterial is the pop-up blocker,Form Filler & Privacy
Manager
| |
| | a.. Powerful **virus scanner** scans all files, applications,
diskettes
| and
| | CD-ROM's on your computer
| | a.. "Always-on" protection that works in the background
automatically
| | **scanning for viruses**
| | a.. Automatically updates with the latest virus information
| |
| | "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| | ...
| | The anti spyware application should not be immaterial since you
need
| to
| | pay
| | additional for the coverage
| | All are billed separately see info at link
| |
| |
|
http://productsandservice.aliant.net...jsp&curbody=59
| |
| |
| | --
| | Fran
| |
| |
| | "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
| | ...
| | | According to Aliant its an anti virus application, not spyware,
the
| | other
| | | included items are immaterial.
| | |
| | | As previously stated your PC is infected with malaware / trojans
| | |
| | | "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | So even though Aliant tells me I have anti spyware protection
I
do
| not
| | |
| | | --
| | | Fran
| | |
| | |
| | | "smlunatick" wrote in message
| | |
| |
|
...
| | | On Jun 3, 11:18 am, "Ray &Fran"
wrote:
| | | No the anti virus ,Anti spyware ,Fraud protection , Privacy
| manager
| | and
| | | Pop
| | | up blocker is installed on my Pc . It updates regularly and
scans
| | both
| | pc
| | | and e-mail The whole pkg . I am in Nova Scotia with Aliant
and
| the
| | whole
| | | thing is called Aliant security service . I thought I was
covered
| | |
| | | --
| | | Fran
| | |
| | | "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
| | |
| | | ...
| | | | Your PC is infected with spyware / malaware, which is not
the
| same
| | or
| | | | detected by anti virus apps.
| | | | You say you have AV from your ISP, but is this installed on
| your
| PC
| | or
| | | is
| | | it
| | | | only AV on your mail?
| | | |
| | | | Download update & run all of these;
| | | | MS Defender (from MS)
| | | | SpyBot
| | | | Adaware
| | | | All are free
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | | Hi folks .
| | | | I have a question for all you experts . I have windows XP
| home
| | | edition
| | | SP2
| | | | . I try to keep it updated with all necessary updates and
I
| have
| | Anti
| | | | Virus
| | | | protection From My ISP . Lately I have found while
surfing
| some
| | web
| | | sites
| | | | I
| | | | will get a pop up that looks like an EXE program and says
my
| | computer
| | | may
| | | | be
| | | | infected with a virus . The latest one today looked like
a
| | Microsoft
| | | | warning
| | | | with the little colored security logo on the top and it
| started
| | | scanning
| | | | .It said it found a Trojan If I try to cancel ,close or
exit
| it
| | does
| | | not
| | | | seem to want to cancel or close . I need to do
CTRL,Alt,DEl
| end
| | task
| | | to
| | | | get
| | | | it to stop and end . How would I know if it were really
from
| | | Microsoft
| | | ???
| | | | I
| | | | usually do a virus scan to see If I have any viruses but
It
| says
| | | nothing
| | | | found
| | | |
| | | | --
| | | | Fran
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | |
| | | These so-called "service" anti-virus security softwares are in
my
| | | opinion bogus! The is no software that can protect you 100%.
You
| | | still should install and run the mentioned spyware removal
tools
| since
| | | spywares/malwars are not in the same category as viruses and
those
| | | security system may not protect you from these.
| | |
| | | Better safe than sorry!
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|




  #21  
Old June 5th 08, 09:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Ray &Fran
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 23
Default Antivirus pop up

I would never cancel the antivirus protection . I will keep the Aliant anti
virus for $4.95 a month .

I was only questioning you about your thoughts on the anti spyware
application for an additional 4.95
I do understand they are 2 separate programs with 2 different functions
--
Fran


"DL" address@invalid wrote in message
...
| Don't cancel it, unless you replace to with another Antivirus application
| You still don't seem to understand; the two types of infections need
| different applications to protect / detect them
| ie both an Antivirus appliction together with Spyware/malaware detection
| applications
|
| "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| ...
| do realize that Virus and Malaware/Trojans are different types
| of infections.
| I will download your suggestions. This is an item I am paying for should
I
| cancel this and save some money or is it useful and keep it
|
|
http://productsandservice.aliant.net...9&subsection=7
|
| --
| Fran
|
|
| "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
| ...
| | You need to understand that Virus and Malaware/Trojans are different
| types
| | of infections.
| | AntiVirus applications generally do not have a good record of
detecting
| this
| | type of spyware, though they may deal effectively with viruses.
| | Your anti virus definitions are being updated, that is the notices you
| | receive.
| |
| | Your PC is infected with malaware, for this you need separate
| applications,
| | the ones below are all free
| | MS Defender is free and has real time scanning, ie it runs in the
| background
| | like your AV app.
| | http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx
| | SpyBot is free - you have to explicitly run it to scan your PC
| | http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html
| | Adaware have a free version - once again you have to manually scan
| | http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.php
| |
| | You should download update & run all three
| | NB None of the above are a replacement for an anti virus application,
eg
| as
| | supplied by Aliant
| |
| | "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Thanks DL for your Input.
| | I do know what the virus scanner does and I have it set as you
| suggested
| |
| | I also know that the popup blocker,form filler and privacy manager
are
| | just
| | little extras they provide and all are working on my PC since I
have
| them
| | turned ON
| |
| | I would like to know why you say I do not have spyware/malware
| protection
| | by Aliant ? I pay the monthly charge for the product . It is turned
| on
| in
| | MY services . I receive notices of anti spyware updates during the
day
| | and
| | I have my PC set for scheduled spyware scans . If Aliant does not
have
| | this
| | software then I am paying monthly for a service I am not getting .
| Just
| | curious .
| |
| | I will download the freeware just to be safe
| |
| | --
| | Fran
| |
| |
| | "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
| | ...
| | | Let me spell it out, you have Anti Virus software supplied by
Aliant
| you
| | | DONT have spyware / malaware protection software.
| | | The two are different, requiring different products to scan /
| protect
| /
| | | remove
| | |
| | | What is immaterial is the pop-up blocker,Form Filler & Privacy
| Manager
| | |
| | | a.. Powerful **virus scanner** scans all files, applications,
| diskettes
| | and
| | | CD-ROM's on your computer
| | | a.. "Always-on" protection that works in the background
| automatically
| | | **scanning for viruses**
| | | a.. Automatically updates with the latest virus information
| | |
| | | "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | The anti spyware application should not be immaterial since you
| need
| | to
| | | pay
| | | additional for the coverage
| | | All are billed separately see info at link
| | |
| | |
| |
|
http://productsandservice.aliant.net...jsp&curbody=59
| | |
| | |
| | | --
| | | Fran
| | |
| | |
| | | "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | | According to Aliant its an anti virus application, not
spyware,
| the
| | | other
| | | | included items are immaterial.
| | | |
| | | | As previously stated your PC is infected with malaware /
trojans
| | | |
| | | | "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| | | | ...
| | | | So even though Aliant tells me I have anti spyware
protection
| I
| do
| | not
| | | |
| | | | --
| | | | Fran
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | "smlunatick" wrote in message
| | | |
| | |
| |
|
...
| | | | On Jun 3, 11:18 am, "Ray &Fran"
| wrote:
| | | | No the anti virus ,Anti spyware ,Fraud protection , Privacy
| | manager
| | | and
| | | | Pop
| | | | up blocker is installed on my Pc . It updates regularly and
| scans
| | | both
| | | pc
| | | | and e-mail The whole pkg . I am in Nova Scotia with Aliant
| and
| | the
| | | whole
| | | | thing is called Aliant security service . I thought I was
| covered
| | | |
| | | | --
| | | | Fran
| | | |
| | | | "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
| | | |
| | | | ...
| | | | | Your PC is infected with spyware / malaware, which is not
| the
| | same
| | | or
| | | | | detected by anti virus apps.
| | | | | You say you have AV from your ISP, but is this installed
on
| | your
| | PC
| | | or
| | | | is
| | | | it
| | | | | only AV on your mail?
| | | | |
| | | | | Download update & run all of these;
| | | | | MS Defender (from MS)
| | | | | SpyBot
| | | | | Adaware
| | | | | All are free
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | | "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| | | | ...
| | | | | Hi folks .
| | | | | I have a question for all you experts . I have windows
XP
| | home
| | | | edition
| | | | SP2
| | | | | . I try to keep it updated with all necessary updates
and
| I
| | have
| | | Anti
| | | | | Virus
| | | | | protection From My ISP . Lately I have found while
| surfing
| | some
| | | web
| | | | sites
| | | | | I
| | | | | will get a pop up that looks like an EXE program and
says
| my
| | | computer
| | | | may
| | | | | be
| | | | | infected with a virus . The latest one today looked
like
| a
| | | Microsoft
| | | | | warning
| | | | | with the little colored security logo on the top and it
| | started
| | | | scanning
| | | | | .It said it found a Trojan If I try to cancel ,close or
| exit
| | it
| | | does
| | | | not
| | | | | seem to want to cancel or close . I need to do
| CTRL,Alt,DEl
| | end
| | | task
| | | | to
| | | | | get
| | | | | it to stop and end . How would I know if it were really
| from
| | | | Microsoft
| | | | ???
| | | | | I
| | | | | usually do a virus scan to see If I have any viruses
but
| It
| | says
| | | | nothing
| | | | | found
| | | | |
| | | | | --
| | | | | Fran
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | |
| | | | These so-called "service" anti-virus security softwares are
in
| my
| | | | opinion bogus! The is no software that can protect you
100%.
| You
| | | | still should install and run the mentioned spyware removal
| tools
| | since
| | | | spywares/malwars are not in the same category as viruses and
| those
| | | | security system may not protect you from these.
| | | |
| | | | Better safe than sorry!
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|


  #22  
Old June 5th 08, 10:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Ken Blake, MVP
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 10,402
Default Antivirus pop up

On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 17:20:32 -0300, "Ray &Fran"
wrote:

I would never cancel the antivirus protection . I will keep the Aliant anti
virus for $4.95 a month .




Why? It's certainly not an anti-virus product with a reputation of
being one of the better ones out there.

If you want to spend money on an anti-virus product, I recommend NOD32
at http://www.eset.com/ It's a better product and the same price at
$59.95 a year


I was only questioning you about your thoughts on the anti spyware
application for an additional 4.95



I would personally not choose anything from Aliant. There are lots
better freeware anti-spyware products, like Spybot Search and Destroy,
Adaware, Spyware Blaster, and Super AntiSpyware.


I do understand they are 2 separate programs with 2 different functions
--
Fran


"DL" address@invalid wrote in message
...
| Don't cancel it, unless you replace to with another Antivirus application
| You still don't seem to understand; the two types of infections need
| different applications to protect / detect them
| ie both an Antivirus appliction together with Spyware/malaware detection
| applications
|
| "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| ...
| do realize that Virus and Malaware/Trojans are different types
| of infections.
| I will download your suggestions. This is an item I am paying for should
I
| cancel this and save some money or is it useful and keep it
|
|
http://productsandservice.aliant.net...9&subsection=7
|
| --
| Fran
|
|
| "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
| ...
| | You need to understand that Virus and Malaware/Trojans are different
| types
| | of infections.
| | AntiVirus applications generally do not have a good record of
detecting
| this
| | type of spyware, though they may deal effectively with viruses.
| | Your anti virus definitions are being updated, that is the notices you
| | receive.
| |
| | Your PC is infected with malaware, for this you need separate
| applications,
| | the ones below are all free
| | MS Defender is free and has real time scanning, ie it runs in the
| background
| | like your AV app.
| | http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx
| | SpyBot is free - you have to explicitly run it to scan your PC
| | http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html
| | Adaware have a free version - once again you have to manually scan
| | http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.php
| |
| | You should download update & run all three
| | NB None of the above are a replacement for an anti virus application,
eg
| as
| | supplied by Aliant
| |
| | "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Thanks DL for your Input.
| | I do know what the virus scanner does and I have it set as you
| suggested
| |
| | I also know that the popup blocker,form filler and privacy manager
are
| | just
| | little extras they provide and all are working on my PC since I
have
| them
| | turned ON
| |
| | I would like to know why you say I do not have spyware/malware
| protection
| | by Aliant ? I pay the monthly charge for the product . It is turned
| on
| in
| | MY services . I receive notices of anti spyware updates during the
day
| | and
| | I have my PC set for scheduled spyware scans . If Aliant does not
have
| | this
| | software then I am paying monthly for a service I am not getting .
| Just
| | curious .
| |
| | I will download the freeware just to be safe
| |
| | --
| | Fran
| |
| |
| | "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
| | ...
| | | Let me spell it out, you have Anti Virus software supplied by
Aliant
| you
| | | DONT have spyware / malaware protection software.
| | | The two are different, requiring different products to scan /
| protect
| /
| | | remove
| | |
| | | What is immaterial is the pop-up blocker,Form Filler & Privacy
| Manager
| | |
| | | a.. Powerful **virus scanner** scans all files, applications,
| diskettes
| | and
| | | CD-ROM's on your computer
| | | a.. "Always-on" protection that works in the background
| automatically
| | | **scanning for viruses**
| | | a.. Automatically updates with the latest virus information
| | |
| | | "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | The anti spyware application should not be immaterial since you
| need
| | to
| | | pay
| | | additional for the coverage
| | | All are billed separately see info at link
| | |
| | |
| |
|
http://productsandservice.aliant.net...jsp&curbody=59
| | |
| | |
| | | --
| | | Fran
| | |
| | |
| | | "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | | According to Aliant its an anti virus application, not
spyware,
| the
| | | other
| | | | included items are immaterial.
| | | |
| | | | As previously stated your PC is infected with malaware /
trojans
| | | |
| | | | "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| | | | ...
| | | | So even though Aliant tells me I have anti spyware
protection
| I
| do
| | not
| | | |
| | | | --
| | | | Fran
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | "smlunatick" wrote in message
| | | |
| | |
| |
|
...
| | | | On Jun 3, 11:18 am, "Ray &Fran"
| wrote:
| | | | No the anti virus ,Anti spyware ,Fraud protection , Privacy
| | manager
| | | and
| | | | Pop
| | | | up blocker is installed on my Pc . It updates regularly and
| scans
| | | both
| | | pc
| | | | and e-mail The whole pkg . I am in Nova Scotia with Aliant
| and
| | the
| | | whole
| | | | thing is called Aliant security service . I thought I was
| covered
| | | |
| | | | --
| | | | Fran
| | | |
| | | | "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
| | | |
| | | | ...
| | | | | Your PC is infected with spyware / malaware, which is not
| the
| | same
| | | or
| | | | | detected by anti virus apps.
| | | | | You say you have AV from your ISP, but is this installed
on
| | your
| | PC
| | | or
| | | | is
| | | | it
| | | | | only AV on your mail?
| | | | |
| | | | | Download update & run all of these;
| | | | | MS Defender (from MS)
| | | | | SpyBot
| | | | | Adaware
| | | | | All are free
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | | "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| | | | ...
| | | | | Hi folks .
| | | | | I have a question for all you experts . I have windows
XP
| | home
| | | | edition
| | | | SP2
| | | | | . I try to keep it updated with all necessary updates
and
| I
| | have
| | | Anti
| | | | | Virus
| | | | | protection From My ISP . Lately I have found while
| surfing
| | some
| | | web
| | | | sites
| | | | | I
| | | | | will get a pop up that looks like an EXE program and
says
| my
| | | computer
| | | | may
| | | | | be
| | | | | infected with a virus . The latest one today looked
like
| a
| | | Microsoft
| | | | | warning
| | | | | with the little colored security logo on the top and it
| | started
| | | | scanning
| | | | | .It said it found a Trojan If I try to cancel ,close or
| exit
| | it
| | | does
| | | | not
| | | | | seem to want to cancel or close . I need to do
| CTRL,Alt,DEl
| | end
| | | task
| | | | to
| | | | | get
| | | | | it to stop and end . How would I know if it were really
| from
| | | | Microsoft
| | | | ???
| | | | | I
| | | | | usually do a virus scan to see If I have any viruses
but
| It
| | says
| | | | nothing
| | | | | found
| | | | |
| | | | | --
| | | | | Fran
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | |
| | | | These so-called "service" anti-virus security softwares are
in
| my
| | | | opinion bogus! The is no software that can protect you
100%.
| You
| | | | still should install and run the mentioned spyware removal
| tools
| | since
| | | | spywares/malwars are not in the same category as viruses and
| those
| | | | security system may not protect you from these.
| | | |
| | | | Better safe than sorry!
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
  #23  
Old June 5th 08, 11:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Ray &Fran
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 23
Default Antivirus pop up

Ken thank you for your input
I have the aliant service because I get my internet service from Aliant . I
am a retired Aliant employee , I get a 40% discount on services, What I have
started out as Freedom Security and then they changed to Aliant security
service and was recommended by Aliant .
The bottom line is I knew no better . I am learning from folks on this group
.. I am seriously considering changing

--
Fran


"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message
...
| On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 17:20:32 -0300, "Ray &Fran"
| wrote:
|
| I would never cancel the antivirus protection . I will keep the Aliant
anti
| virus for $4.95 a month .
|
|
|
| Why? It's certainly not an anti-virus product with a reputation of
| being one of the better ones out there.
|
| If you want to spend money on an anti-virus product, I recommend NOD32
| at http://www.eset.com/ It's a better product and the same price at
| $59.95 a year
|
|
| I was only questioning you about your thoughts on the anti spyware
| application for an additional 4.95
|
|
| I would personally not choose anything from Aliant. There are lots
| better freeware anti-spyware products, like Spybot Search and Destroy,
| Adaware, Spyware Blaster, and Super AntiSpyware.
|
|
| I do understand they are 2 separate programs with 2 different functions
| --
| Fran
|
|
| "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
| ...
| | Don't cancel it, unless you replace to with another Antivirus
application
| | You still don't seem to understand; the two types of infections need
| | different applications to protect / detect them
| | ie both an Antivirus appliction together with Spyware/malaware
detection
| | applications
| |
| | "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| | ...
| | do realize that Virus and Malaware/Trojans are different types
| | of infections.
| | I will download your suggestions. This is an item I am paying for
should
| I
| | cancel this and save some money or is it useful and keep it
| |
| |
|
http://productsandservice.aliant.net...9&subsection=7
| |
| | --
| | Fran
| |
| |
| | "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
| | ...
| | | You need to understand that Virus and Malaware/Trojans are
different
| | types
| | | of infections.
| | | AntiVirus applications generally do not have a good record of
| detecting
| | this
| | | type of spyware, though they may deal effectively with viruses.
| | | Your anti virus definitions are being updated, that is the notices
you
| | | receive.
| | |
| | | Your PC is infected with malaware, for this you need separate
| | applications,
| | | the ones below are all free
| | | MS Defender is free and has real time scanning, ie it runs in the
| | background
| | | like your AV app.
| | |
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx
| | | SpyBot is free - you have to explicitly run it to scan your PC
| | | http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html
| | | Adaware have a free version - once again you have to manually scan
| | | http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.php
| | |
| | | You should download update & run all three
| | | NB None of the above are a replacement for an anti virus
application,
| eg
| | as
| | | supplied by Aliant
| | |
| | | "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | Thanks DL for your Input.
| | | I do know what the virus scanner does and I have it set as you
| | suggested
| | |
| | | I also know that the popup blocker,form filler and privacy
manager
| are
| | | just
| | | little extras they provide and all are working on my PC since I
| have
| | them
| | | turned ON
| | |
| | | I would like to know why you say I do not have spyware/malware
| | protection
| | | by Aliant ? I pay the monthly charge for the product . It is
turned
| | on
| | in
| | | MY services . I receive notices of anti spyware updates during
the
| day
| | | and
| | | I have my PC set for scheduled spyware scans . If Aliant does
not
| have
| | | this
| | | software then I am paying monthly for a service I am not getting
..
| | Just
| | | curious .
| | |
| | | I will download the freeware just to be safe
| | |
| | | --
| | | Fran
| | |
| | |
| | | "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | | Let me spell it out, you have Anti Virus software supplied by
| Aliant
| | you
| | | | DONT have spyware / malaware protection software.
| | | | The two are different, requiring different products to scan /
| | protect
| | /
| | | | remove
| | | |
| | | | What is immaterial is the pop-up blocker,Form Filler & Privacy
| | Manager
| | | |
| | | | a.. Powerful **virus scanner** scans all files, applications,
| | diskettes
| | | and
| | | | CD-ROM's on your computer
| | | | a.. "Always-on" protection that works in the background
| | automatically
| | | | **scanning for viruses**
| | | | a.. Automatically updates with the latest virus information
| | | |
| | | | "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| | | | ...
| | | | The anti spyware application should not be immaterial since
you
| | need
| | | to
| | | | pay
| | | | additional for the coverage
| | | | All are billed separately see info at link
| | | |
| | | |
| | |
| |
|
http://productsandservice.aliant.net...jsp&curbody=59
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | --
| | | | Fran
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
| | | | ...
| | | | | According to Aliant its an anti virus application, not
| spyware,
| | the
| | | | other
| | | | | included items are immaterial.
| | | | |
| | | | | As previously stated your PC is infected with malaware /
| trojans
| | | | |
| | | | | "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| | | | | ...
| | | | | So even though Aliant tells me I have anti spyware
| protection
| | I
| | do
| | | not
| | | | |
| | | | | --
| | | | | Fran
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | | "smlunatick" wrote in message
| | | | |
| | | |
| | |
| |
|
...
| | | | | On Jun 3, 11:18 am, "Ray &Fran"

| | wrote:
| | | | | No the anti virus ,Anti spyware ,Fraud protection ,
Privacy
| | | manager
| | | | and
| | | | | Pop
| | | | | up blocker is installed on my Pc . It updates regularly
and
| | scans
| | | | both
| | | | pc
| | | | | and e-mail The whole pkg . I am in Nova Scotia with
Aliant
| | and
| | | the
| | | | whole
| | | | | thing is called Aliant security service . I thought I
was
| | covered
| | | | |
| | | | | --
| | | | | Fran
| | | | |
| | | | | "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
| | | | |
| | | | | ...
| | | | | | Your PC is infected with spyware / malaware, which is
not
| | the
| | | same
| | | | or
| | | | | | detected by anti virus apps.
| | | | | | You say you have AV from your ISP, but is this
installed
| on
| | | your
| | | PC
| | | | or
| | | | | is
| | | | | it
| | | | | | only AV on your mail?
| | | | | |
| | | | | | Download update & run all of these;
| | | | | | MS Defender (from MS)
| | | | | | SpyBot
| | | | | | Adaware
| | | | | | All are free
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | | | "Ray &Fran" wrote in
message
| | | | | ...
| | | | | | Hi folks .
| | | | | | I have a question for all you experts . I have
windows
| XP
| | | home
| | | | | edition
| | | | | SP2
| | | | | | . I try to keep it updated with all necessary
updates
| and
| | I
| | | have
| | | | Anti
| | | | | | Virus
| | | | | | protection From My ISP . Lately I have found while
| | surfing
| | | some
| | | | web
| | | | | sites
| | | | | | I
| | | | | | will get a pop up that looks like an EXE program
and
| says
| | my
| | | | computer
| | | | | may
| | | | | | be
| | | | | | infected with a virus . The latest one today looked
| like
| | a
| | | | Microsoft
| | | | | | warning
| | | | | | with the little colored security logo on the top
and it
| | | started
| | | | | scanning
| | | | | | .It said it found a Trojan If I try to cancel
,close or
| | exit
| | | it
| | | | does
| | | | | not
| | | | | | seem to want to cancel or close . I need to do
| | CTRL,Alt,DEl
| | | end
| | | | task
| | | | | to
| | | | | | get
| | | | | | it to stop and end . How would I know if it were
really
| | from
| | | | | Microsoft
| | | | | ???
| | | | | | I
| | | | | | usually do a virus scan to see If I have any
viruses
| but
| | It
| | | says
| | | | | nothing
| | | | | | found
| | | | | |
| | | | | | --
| | | | | | Fran
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | | These so-called "service" anti-virus security softwares
are
| in
| | my
| | | | | opinion bogus! The is no software that can protect you
| 100%.
| | You
| | | | | still should install and run the mentioned spyware
removal
| | tools
| | | since
| | | | | spywares/malwars are not in the same category as viruses
and
| | those
| | | | | security system may not protect you from these.
| | | | |
| | | | | Better safe than sorry!
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
| --
| Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
| Please Reply to the Newsgroup


  #24  
Old June 6th 08, 02:12 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Ken Blake, MVP
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 10,402
Default Antivirus pop up

On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 19:38:58 -0300, "Ray &Fran"
wrote:

Ken thank you for your input
I have the aliant service because I get my internet service from Aliant . I
am a retired Aliant employee , I get a 40% discount on services, What I have
started out as Freedom Security and then they changed to Aliant security
service and was recommended by Aliant .



You're welcome, and understood.



The bottom line is I knew no better . I am learning from folks on this group
. I am seriously considering changing



I would change if I were you. You should be looking for the best
product in each category, not just what's easiest.



"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message
...
| On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 17:20:32 -0300, "Ray &Fran"
| wrote:
|
| I would never cancel the antivirus protection . I will keep the Aliant
anti
| virus for $4.95 a month .
|
|
|
| Why? It's certainly not an anti-virus product with a reputation of
| being one of the better ones out there.
|
| If you want to spend money on an anti-virus product, I recommend NOD32
| at http://www.eset.com/ It's a better product and the same price at
| $59.95 a year
|
|
| I was only questioning you about your thoughts on the anti spyware
| application for an additional 4.95
|
|
| I would personally not choose anything from Aliant. There are lots
| better freeware anti-spyware products, like Spybot Search and Destroy,
| Adaware, Spyware Blaster, and Super AntiSpyware.
|
|
| I do understand they are 2 separate programs with 2 different functions
| --
| Fran
|
|
| "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
| ...
| | Don't cancel it, unless you replace to with another Antivirus
application
| | You still don't seem to understand; the two types of infections need
| | different applications to protect / detect them
| | ie both an Antivirus appliction together with Spyware/malaware
detection
| | applications
| |
| | "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| | ...
| | do realize that Virus and Malaware/Trojans are different types
| | of infections.
| | I will download your suggestions. This is an item I am paying for
should
| I
| | cancel this and save some money or is it useful and keep it
| |
| |
|
http://productsandservice.aliant.net...9&subsection=7
| |
| | --
| | Fran
| |
| |
| | "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
| | ...
| | | You need to understand that Virus and Malaware/Trojans are
different
| | types
| | | of infections.
| | | AntiVirus applications generally do not have a good record of
| detecting
| | this
| | | type of spyware, though they may deal effectively with viruses.
| | | Your anti virus definitions are being updated, that is the notices
you
| | | receive.
| | |
| | | Your PC is infected with malaware, for this you need separate
| | applications,
| | | the ones below are all free
| | | MS Defender is free and has real time scanning, ie it runs in the
| | background
| | | like your AV app.
| | |
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx
| | | SpyBot is free - you have to explicitly run it to scan your PC
| | | http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html
| | | Adaware have a free version - once again you have to manually scan
| | | http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.php
| | |
| | | You should download update & run all three
| | | NB None of the above are a replacement for an anti virus
application,
| eg
| | as
| | | supplied by Aliant
| | |
| | | "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | Thanks DL for your Input.
| | | I do know what the virus scanner does and I have it set as you
| | suggested
| | |
| | | I also know that the popup blocker,form filler and privacy
manager
| are
| | | just
| | | little extras they provide and all are working on my PC since I
| have
| | them
| | | turned ON
| | |
| | | I would like to know why you say I do not have spyware/malware
| | protection
| | | by Aliant ? I pay the monthly charge for the product . It is
turned
| | on
| | in
| | | MY services . I receive notices of anti spyware updates during
the
| day
| | | and
| | | I have my PC set for scheduled spyware scans . If Aliant does
not
| have
| | | this
| | | software then I am paying monthly for a service I am not getting
.
| | Just
| | | curious .
| | |
| | | I will download the freeware just to be safe
| | |
| | | --
| | | Fran
| | |
| | |
| | | "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | | Let me spell it out, you have Anti Virus software supplied by
| Aliant
| | you
| | | | DONT have spyware / malaware protection software.
| | | | The two are different, requiring different products to scan /
| | protect
| | /
| | | | remove
| | | |
| | | | What is immaterial is the pop-up blocker,Form Filler & Privacy
| | Manager
| | | |
| | | | a.. Powerful **virus scanner** scans all files, applications,
| | diskettes
| | | and
| | | | CD-ROM's on your computer
| | | | a.. "Always-on" protection that works in the background
| | automatically
| | | | **scanning for viruses**
| | | | a.. Automatically updates with the latest virus information
| | | |
| | | | "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| | | | ...
| | | | The anti spyware application should not be immaterial since
you
| | need
| | | to
| | | | pay
| | | | additional for the coverage
| | | | All are billed separately see info at link
| | | |
| | | |
| | |
| |
|
http://productsandservice.aliant.net...jsp&curbody=59
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | --
| | | | Fran
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
| | | | ...
| | | | | According to Aliant its an anti virus application, not
| spyware,
| | the
| | | | other
| | | | | included items are immaterial.
| | | | |
| | | | | As previously stated your PC is infected with malaware /
| trojans
| | | | |
| | | | | "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| | | | | ...
| | | | | So even though Aliant tells me I have anti spyware
| protection
| | I
| | do
| | | not
| | | | |
| | | | | --
| | | | | Fran
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | | "smlunatick" wrote in message
| | | | |
| | | |
| | |
| |
|
...
| | | | | On Jun 3, 11:18 am, "Ray &Fran"

| | wrote:
| | | | | No the anti virus ,Anti spyware ,Fraud protection ,
Privacy
| | | manager
| | | | and
| | | | | Pop
| | | | | up blocker is installed on my Pc . It updates regularly
and
| | scans
| | | | both
| | | | pc
| | | | | and e-mail The whole pkg . I am in Nova Scotia with
Aliant
| | and
| | | the
| | | | whole
| | | | | thing is called Aliant security service . I thought I
was
| | covered
| | | | |
| | | | | --
| | | | | Fran
| | | | |
| | | | | "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
| | | | |
| | | | | ...
| | | | | | Your PC is infected with spyware / malaware, which is
not
| | the
| | | same
| | | | or
| | | | | | detected by anti virus apps.
| | | | | | You say you have AV from your ISP, but is this
installed
| on
| | | your
| | | PC
| | | | or
| | | | | is
| | | | | it
| | | | | | only AV on your mail?
| | | | | |
| | | | | | Download update & run all of these;
| | | | | | MS Defender (from MS)
| | | | | | SpyBot
| | | | | | Adaware
| | | | | | All are free
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | | | "Ray &Fran" wrote in
message
| | | | | ...
| | | | | | Hi folks .
| | | | | | I have a question for all you experts . I have
windows
| XP
| | | home
| | | | | edition
| | | | | SP2
| | | | | | . I try to keep it updated with all necessary
updates
| and
| | I
| | | have
| | | | Anti
| | | | | | Virus
| | | | | | protection From My ISP . Lately I have found while
| | surfing
| | | some
| | | | web
| | | | | sites
| | | | | | I
| | | | | | will get a pop up that looks like an EXE program
and
| says
| | my
| | | | computer
| | | | | may
| | | | | | be
| | | | | | infected with a virus . The latest one today looked
| like
| | a
| | | | Microsoft
| | | | | | warning
| | | | | | with the little colored security logo on the top
and it
| | | started
| | | | | scanning
| | | | | | .It said it found a Trojan If I try to cancel
,close or
| | exit
| | | it
| | | | does
| | | | | not
| | | | | | seem to want to cancel or close . I need to do
| | CTRL,Alt,DEl
| | | end
| | | | task
| | | | | to
| | | | | | get
| | | | | | it to stop and end . How would I know if it were
really
| | from
| | | | | Microsoft
| | | | | ???
| | | | | | I
| | | | | | usually do a virus scan to see If I have any
viruses
| but
| | It
| | | says
| | | | | nothing
| | | | | | found
| | | | | |
| | | | | | --
| | | | | | Fran
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | | These so-called "service" anti-virus security softwares
are
| in
| | my
| | | | | opinion bogus! The is no software that can protect you
| 100%.
| | You
| | | | | still should install and run the mentioned spyware
removal
| | tools
| | | since
| | | | | spywares/malwars are not in the same category as viruses
and
| | those
| | | | | security system may not protect you from these.
| | | | |
| | | | | Better safe than sorry!
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
| --
| Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
| Please Reply to the Newsgroup


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
  #25  
Old June 6th 08, 03:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
DL
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,774
Default Antivirus pop up

Your better off going with the 3 free ones I listed

"Ray &Fran" wrote in message
...
I would never cancel the antivirus protection . I will keep the Aliant anti
virus for $4.95 a month .

I was only questioning you about your thoughts on the anti spyware
application for an additional 4.95
I do understand they are 2 separate programs with 2 different functions
--
Fran


"DL" address@invalid wrote in message
...
| Don't cancel it, unless you replace to with another Antivirus
application
| You still don't seem to understand; the two types of infections need
| different applications to protect / detect them
| ie both an Antivirus appliction together with Spyware/malaware detection
| applications
|
| "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| ...
| do realize that Virus and Malaware/Trojans are different types
| of infections.
| I will download your suggestions. This is an item I am paying for
should
I
| cancel this and save some money or is it useful and keep it
|
|
http://productsandservice.aliant.net...9&subsection=7
|
| --
| Fran
|
|
| "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
| ...
| | You need to understand that Virus and Malaware/Trojans are different
| types
| | of infections.
| | AntiVirus applications generally do not have a good record of
detecting
| this
| | type of spyware, though they may deal effectively with viruses.
| | Your anti virus definitions are being updated, that is the notices
you
| | receive.
| |
| | Your PC is infected with malaware, for this you need separate
| applications,
| | the ones below are all free
| | MS Defender is free and has real time scanning, ie it runs in the
| background
| | like your AV app.
| |
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx
| | SpyBot is free - you have to explicitly run it to scan your PC
| | http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html
| | Adaware have a free version - once again you have to manually scan
| | http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.php
| |
| | You should download update & run all three
| | NB None of the above are a replacement for an anti virus
application,
eg
| as
| | supplied by Aliant
| |
| | "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Thanks DL for your Input.
| | I do know what the virus scanner does and I have it set as you
| suggested
| |
| | I also know that the popup blocker,form filler and privacy manager
are
| | just
| | little extras they provide and all are working on my PC since I
have
| them
| | turned ON
| |
| | I would like to know why you say I do not have spyware/malware
| protection
| | by Aliant ? I pay the monthly charge for the product . It is
turned
| on
| in
| | MY services . I receive notices of anti spyware updates during the
day
| | and
| | I have my PC set for scheduled spyware scans . If Aliant does not
have
| | this
| | software then I am paying monthly for a service I am not getting .
| Just
| | curious .
| |
| | I will download the freeware just to be safe
| |
| | --
| | Fran
| |
| |
| | "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
| | ...
| | | Let me spell it out, you have Anti Virus software supplied by
Aliant
| you
| | | DONT have spyware / malaware protection software.
| | | The two are different, requiring different products to scan /
| protect
| /
| | | remove
| | |
| | | What is immaterial is the pop-up blocker,Form Filler & Privacy
| Manager
| | |
| | | a.. Powerful **virus scanner** scans all files, applications,
| diskettes
| | and
| | | CD-ROM's on your computer
| | | a.. "Always-on" protection that works in the background
| automatically
| | | **scanning for viruses**
| | | a.. Automatically updates with the latest virus information
| | |
| | | "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | The anti spyware application should not be immaterial since
you
| need
| | to
| | | pay
| | | additional for the coverage
| | | All are billed separately see info at link
| | |
| | |
| |
|
http://productsandservice.aliant.net...jsp&curbody=59
| | |
| | |
| | | --
| | | Fran
| | |
| | |
| | | "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | | According to Aliant its an anti virus application, not
spyware,
| the
| | | other
| | | | included items are immaterial.
| | | |
| | | | As previously stated your PC is infected with malaware /
trojans
| | | |
| | | | "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| | | | ...
| | | | So even though Aliant tells me I have anti spyware
protection
| I
| do
| | not
| | | |
| | | | --
| | | | Fran
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | "smlunatick" wrote in message
| | | |
| | |
| |
|
...
| | | | On Jun 3, 11:18 am, "Ray &Fran"
| wrote:
| | | | No the anti virus ,Anti spyware ,Fraud protection ,
Privacy
| | manager
| | | and
| | | | Pop
| | | | up blocker is installed on my Pc . It updates regularly
and
| scans
| | | both
| | | pc
| | | | and e-mail The whole pkg . I am in Nova Scotia with
Aliant
| and
| | the
| | | whole
| | | | thing is called Aliant security service . I thought I was
| covered
| | | |
| | | | --
| | | | Fran
| | | |
| | | | "DL" address@invalid wrote in message
| | | |
| | | | ...
| | | | | Your PC is infected with spyware / malaware, which is
not
| the
| | same
| | | or
| | | | | detected by anti virus apps.
| | | | | You say you have AV from your ISP, but is this
installed
on
| | your
| | PC
| | | or
| | | | is
| | | | it
| | | | | only AV on your mail?
| | | | |
| | | | | Download update & run all of these;
| | | | | MS Defender (from MS)
| | | | | SpyBot
| | | | | Adaware
| | | | | All are free
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | | "Ray &Fran" wrote in message
| | | | ...
| | | | | Hi folks .
| | | | | I have a question for all you experts . I have
windows
XP
| | home
| | | | edition
| | | | SP2
| | | | | . I try to keep it updated with all necessary updates
and
| I
| | have
| | | Anti
| | | | | Virus
| | | | | protection From My ISP . Lately I have found while
| surfing
| | some
| | | web
| | | | sites
| | | | | I
| | | | | will get a pop up that looks like an EXE program and
says
| my
| | | computer
| | | | may
| | | | | be
| | | | | infected with a virus . The latest one today looked
like
| a
| | | Microsoft
| | | | | warning
| | | | | with the little colored security logo on the top and
it
| | started
| | | | scanning
| | | | | .It said it found a Trojan If I try to cancel ,close
or
| exit
| | it
| | | does
| | | | not
| | | | | seem to want to cancel or close . I need to do
| CTRL,Alt,DEl
| | end
| | | task
| | | | to
| | | | | get
| | | | | it to stop and end . How would I know if it were
really
| from
| | | | Microsoft
| | | | ???
| | | | | I
| | | | | usually do a virus scan to see If I have any viruses
but
| It
| | says
| | | | nothing
| | | | | found
| | | | |
| | | | | --
| | | | | Fran
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | |
| | | | These so-called "service" anti-virus security softwares
are
in
| my
| | | | opinion bogus! The is no software that can protect you
100%.
| You
| | | | still should install and run the mentioned spyware removal
| tools
| | since
| | | | spywares/malwars are not in the same category as viruses
and
| those
| | | | security system may not protect you from these.
| | | |
| | | | Better safe than sorry!
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|




 




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