Annoying printers

On Fri, 05 Oct 2018 18:33:27 +0100, Mark Lloyd wrote:

On 10/05/2018 08:45 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

[snip]

1) It is a federal crime with heavy penalties for unauthorized access
(either inserting or removal of items).

Around here, people (who don't work for USPS) often leave things in
others' mailboxes. Often, misdelivered mail they're putting in the right
place.

2) It ain't up to you. USPS dictates where the box goes. If you don't
like it you have you get a PO Box...If you think 1000 ft walk is
inconvenient consider a 9 mile drive.

I know some people who got a PO box. Maybe for that reason, or maybe
because some people like to destroy mailboxes (for no apparent reason).

If you have a PO box, does that mean it takes USPS stuff too? Or do they stubbornly refuse because it's the wrong colour?

On Fri, 05 Oct 2018 18:29:48 +0100, Mark Lloyd wrote:

On 10/05/2018 08:12 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:

[snip]

Ah...you walk across the street and open your box to get your mail. If
it is a rural area houses can be 1/4, 1/2 mile or more apart. In USA we
have many states larger that your country...rural can be really rural.

So your mail which is your property is left in a box which isn't on your
property? No thanks.

When we lived on the farm, we actually owned some land on the other side
of the road where the mailbox was. My mother liked the wild berries that
grew there.

I own some land on the other side of my pavement (er sidewalk) but this side of the road. The council want stupid amounts of money to move the pavement, so I'm doing it myself and I'll see if they moan about it.

On Fri, 05 Oct 2018 18:27:52 +0100, Mark Lloyd wrote:

On 10/05/2018 08:11 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:

[snip]

If you get toner on your clothes, be sure to wash them in COLD water.

Doesn't it need to be REALLY hot (as in more than boiling point) to fuse
toner?

I should try that sometime. Clean up some toner with an old rag and put
it in hot water.

NO! Don't ever EVER do that, you'll create an immovable lump of dark matter.

On Fri, 05 Oct 2018 14:47:48 +0100, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
Anyway the postman's job is to deliver your mail to YOU, not something
200 yards away.

Obviously you have no concept of rural.

It's still their job. We have rural in Scotland, but the postman drives to your door.

On Fri, 05 Oct 2018 15:20:51 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
Anyway the postman's job is to deliver your mail to YOU, not something
200 yards away.

Obviously you have no concept of rural.

s/ of rural//

Speak English.

On Fri, 05 Oct 2018 15:52:37 +0100, Wolf K wrote:

On 2018-10-05 09:47, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
Anyway the postman's job is to deliver your mail to YOU, not something
200 yards away.

Obviously you have no concept of rural.



I've come to the conclusion that JWK is really as pig-ignorant as he
seems to be. It's not an act put on to extend the thread.

No, I just have different (and more correct) opinions to you.

On Fri, 05 Oct 2018 15:45:48 +0100, Wolf K wrote:

On 2018-10-04 22:47, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Thu, 04 Oct 2018 16:00:58 +0100, Mark Lloyd wrote:

In rural areas mail is delivered only on one side of the road.

What happens if you live on the other side?!

Ah...you walk across the street and open your box to get your mail. If
it is a rural area houses can be 1/4, 1/2 mile or more apart. In USA we
have many states larger that your country...rural can be really rural.


11 of 50 States are larger than the UK by area.
So 39 States are smaller than the UK.

More tidbits:
7 US States are smaller than Canada's largest city (incorporated area)
3 Canadian cities and towns are larger than Rhode island.
10 US States are smaller than Lake Superior.
5 Canadian provinces and territories are larger than Texas.

68% of statistics are made up on the spot.

On Fri, 05 Oct 2018 15:34:04 +0100, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

On 10/4/2018 2:20 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 17:22:16 +0100, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

On 10/1/2018 12:41 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
Why is it, that in the 21st century, printers never do what you tell them to? They forget you want landscape, they forget the number of copies, they refuse to cancel a job you've sent, they try to use colour ink for a black and white image and take 5 times longer, they can't feed a piece of paper without jamming it, the nozzles clog up every five minutes, the ink cartridges are stupidly small, and they **** about for ten minutes doing god knows what, spinning the roller and moving the cartridge back and forth for no reason before they get to work!


You need a laser printer!

And of course they never **** up....


Of course not. But at least, you don't need to play with ink cartridges.

Ink makes a mess, toner makes a big mess.

On Fri, 05 Oct 2018 15:27:05 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Thu, 04 Oct 2018 20:44:25 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 10/03/2018 01:20 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 17:22:16 +0100, Mr. Man-wai Chang

[snip]

You need a laser printer!

And of course they never **** up....

I've had a few paper jams in my laser printer, as well as leaking toner
from those "low cost" cartridges and the "Print Unable E1" messages
(fixed with the proper driver). Still a lot fewer problems than with
inkjets.

My laser printer (HP LaserJet 6MP) lasted some twelve years, until
finally some rubber rollers started to turn into gum. Couldn't bother to
try to fix it by getting the needed parts. Bought another one (HP
LaserJet M1132 MFP, i.e. also scanner/copier) at EUR 99.99,
three-and-a-half years ago. Still on its first - limited capacity -
cartridge.

OP

"If you want to take out a second mortgage, lasers are fine...."

/OP

Yeah right!

If you're still on your first half filled cartridge, then you clearly
don't do much printing.

Indeed, I don't print much. Hence the laser, so I don't throw away my
money on dried-out/clogged-up cartridges. Specced at 4ct/page (Euros)
average. Actually - mostly text - much less than that.

I spend 10 times as much on the paper as the ink. 13p a cartridge - continuous ink supply.

On Fri, 05 Oct 2018 01:12:29 +0100, Wolf K wrote:

On 2018-10-04 15:11, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Thu, 04 Oct 2018 00:34:48 +0100, Wolf K wrote:

On 2018-10-03 18:43, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
[...]
So tell me, how did black and white inkjets work?
Any b/w printer creates half-tone images, like newspapers that print
grey-scale pictures. Look closely, and you can see the dots, different
sizes with different amounts of white space between them. You may
need a
magnifying glass. (1)

Surely they just shoot less ink for the lighter greys?

You didn't look up "half tone" eh?

I vaguely remember it as lots of little dots, seems pointless to me.

Which is what an inkjet lays down on the paper. What did you think it does?

Vary the sizes of them.

On Fri, 05 Oct 2018 15:09:15 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Thu, 04 Oct 2018 20:23:07 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Thu, 04 Oct 2018 15:10:07 +0100, wrote:

What part of "grey is a colour" don't you get?

Who are you talking to? Learn to quote.

Is Opera Mail broken or/and don't you know how to use that either!?

I'm not going to bother looking at other posts to work out who he
replied to, when 99.9% of people (including yourself) quote properly.
See how you put "Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:"? That's
all he needed to do.

You don't have to "other posts to work out who he replied to". You
just go to the 'parent' post of the post-without-quotes. Each and every
newsreader (the software) can do that. Apparently you don't know how to
do that [1], hence my comment.

That WOULD be going to another post though, wouldn't it?

[1] To be [f|Frank], I would be a bit disappointed if you *did* know how
to do that, considering your slew of ignorant/clueless/clue-resistant/
stupid rants in this thread.

I know how, I just don't see why I should waste my time doing so, when every other person in the group knows how to quote. In fact you just did it correctly.

On Fri, 05 Oct 2018 01:03:47 +0100, Wolf K wrote:

On 2018-10-04 12:29, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Thu, 04 Oct 2018 16:00:58 +0100, Mark Lloyd wrote:

On 10/03/2018 04:34 PM, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:

[snip]

The woman who delivers my mail is dropped off at the end of the street
and delivers to 24 houses. She is then dropped at the next street and
so on.

Steve

Some neighborhoods are like that. I used to live in one.

Here, they drive the vehicle up the street, stopping at a mailbox in
front of each house (location of box is such that they don't have to get
out to put mail in it), then turn around and do the other side of the
street. I am on the second side so I get some advance notice. I have
taken advantage of that when I was almost too late to mail something.

That's something we don't have in the UK. To send mail we have to take
it to a post office. Unless we use a private courier that collects from
your door.

BTW, mail usually comes here between noon and 1PM.

In rural areas mail is delivered only on one side of the road.

What happens if you live on the other side?!

Then your mailbox is on the opposite side of the road. Since it's rural,
the odds are that there will be traffic on it for maybe 15 or 30 minutes
out of 24 hours. On a heavy traffic day, that is. And that includes the
Post Office vehicle. So you'll just have to amble another 30 feet or so
to get to your mailbox.

I'm glad I live in the civilised world.

On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 12:24:23 -0500, Mark Lloyd wrote:

On 10/05/2018 08:08 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:

[snip]

If they can't speak English that's their problem.

I think that knowing English should be a requirement for things like
registering a vehicle (in an English-speaking country). Some people don't.

I'm in the "some people don't" category, although I'm not militant or
hardcore about it. I've spent quite a bit of my adult life in other
countries and was always rather amazed at how I and my fellow travelers
just assumed that everyone we encountered would know English - because
mostly they did, to varying degrees. So in this country, (USA), I'm
willing to do my best to talk to anyone. Today, for example, there's a
crew at the house putting on a new roof. Out of the 7 people, only one
apparently speaks English. For the others, I use my High School Spanish
plus what little I picked up during my frequent visits to Spain back in
the 1980's.

When my grandparents came to this country, none of them spoke English.
They each learned, but I imagine that that took a while. To be fair, the
person who became my paternal grandmother didn't know any languages at
all when she arrived, since she was born aboard ship during the trip.

I think people should learn the language of the country they're in only
to make their own lives easier, not to make my life easier. My life is
already easy enough.

On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 00:06:37 +0100, Char Jackson wrote:

On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 12:24:23 -0500, Mark Lloyd wrote:

On 10/05/2018 08:08 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:

[snip]

If they can't speak English that's their problem.

I think that knowing English should be a requirement for things like
registering a vehicle (in an English-speaking country). Some people don't.

I'm in the "some people don't" category, although I'm not militant or
hardcore about it. I've spent quite a bit of my adult life in other
countries and was always rather amazed at how I and my fellow travelers
just assumed that everyone we encountered would know English - because
mostly they did, to varying degrees. So in this country, (USA), I'm
willing to do my best to talk to anyone. Today, for example, there's a
crew at the house putting on a new roof. Out of the 7 people, only one
apparently speaks English. For the others, I use my High School Spanish
plus what little I picked up during my frequent visits to Spain back in
the 1980's.

When my grandparents came to this country, none of them spoke English.
They each learned, but I imagine that that took a while. To be fair, the
person who became my paternal grandmother didn't know any languages at
all when she arrived, since she was born aboard ship during the trip.

I think people should learn the language of the country they're in only
to make their own lives easier, not to make my life easier. My life is
already easy enough.

Everyone should speak the same language on the entire planet, for ease of communication. English is the most widespread, and one of the more sensible ones (no genderised nouns for a start). Is it true that in French a female cat is male, as it's "le chat" no matter if it's male or female? Preposterous!

Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Fri, 05 Oct 2018 14:47:48 +0100, Jonathan N. Little
wrote:

Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
Anyway the postman's job is to deliver your mail to YOU, not something
200 yards away.

Obviously you have no concept of rural.

It's still their job.* We have rural in Scotland, but the postman drives
to your door.

They drive to my door when I have a pickup or delivery too large for the
box. But even in "rural" UK folks tend to cluster in villages. It not
like that in USA. I'm in the county and not in an incorporated town or
village.

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Take care,

Jonathan
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