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Does it matter in which slot a stick is installed ?
Belarc Advisor reports: Slot 'J6G1' has 256 MB Slot 'J6G2' has 1024 MB I read somewhere to 'install the largest capacity memory module' in each memory socket. The 256MB 266MHZ PC2100 is OEM (Gateway). 1024MB 333MHZ PC2700 added later, but purchased from Gateway. Thank You -- dale |
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Dale You need to refer to your motherboard manual. What is the Gateway model? -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dale wrote: Does it matter in which slot a stick is installed ? Belarc Advisor reports: Slot 'J6G1' has 256 MB Slot 'J6G2' has 1024 MB I read somewhere to 'install the largest capacity memory module' in each memory socket. The 256MB 266MHZ PC2100 is OEM (Gateway). 1024MB 333MHZ PC2700 added later, but purchased from Gateway. Thank You |
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Dale You need to refer to your motherboard manual. What is the Gateway model? -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dale wrote: Does it matter in which slot a stick is installed ? Belarc Advisor reports: Slot 'J6G1' has 256 MB Slot 'J6G2' has 1024 MB I read somewhere to 'install the largest capacity memory module' in each memory socket. The 256MB 266MHZ PC2100 is OEM (Gateway). 1024MB 333MHZ PC2700 added later, but purchased from Gateway. Thank You |
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Dale wrote:
Does it matter in which slot a stick is installed ? Belarc Advisor reports: Slot 'J6G1' has 256 MB Slot 'J6G2' has 1024 MB I read somewhere to 'install the largest capacity memory module' in each memory socket. The 256MB 266MHZ PC2100 is OEM (Gateway). 1024MB 333MHZ PC2700 added later, but purchased from Gateway. Thank You You'd have got more details, if you mentioned the computer make and model number. Generally speaking, it no longer matters which slot you use. If you have a system with three slots on a single channel bus, then there may be some slight differences in stability, depending on how you do things. There are a few modern motherboards, which are pure crap. And for those, some people have discovered one slot works and the second slot is useless. So there are cases, where you don't get a say in the matter, due to a bad design. Given the products you indicate above, I would unplug the 256MB module, and just use the 1GB one. My reason for doing that, might be so that the memory could run at DDR333 (PS2700) speed, rather than DDR266 (PC2100). But whether that would happen, may also depend on whether the processor FSB plays a part in the memory speed choices or not. If the two clock rates are locked together, in fact it might not help, and then you'd just leave both of them plugged in. So if you gave more details about the motherboard, I could suggest a plan of action. Or at least what my preference would be. (If you're going to use the info in Belarc to ID it, *don't* post everything in Belarc. Sometimes, there are software license keys in the report, and you don't want to post that stuff.) If you want another program to provide info about the motherboard, try CPUZ instead. http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php There is a screenshot here, showing what info the program can give you. In this example, the motherboard is an Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe, and I can find a picture of that, and I know exactly how that one works. But sometimes, the motherboard name is not a popular one, so I'm still in the dark. http://pat.marcourt.free.fr/cpu-z.JPG Paul |
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Dale wrote:
Does it matter in which slot a stick is installed ? Belarc Advisor reports: Slot 'J6G1' has 256 MB Slot 'J6G2' has 1024 MB I read somewhere to 'install the largest capacity memory module' in each memory socket. The 256MB 266MHZ PC2100 is OEM (Gateway). 1024MB 333MHZ PC2700 added later, but purchased from Gateway. Thank You You'd have got more details, if you mentioned the computer make and model number. Generally speaking, it no longer matters which slot you use. If you have a system with three slots on a single channel bus, then there may be some slight differences in stability, depending on how you do things. There are a few modern motherboards, which are pure crap. And for those, some people have discovered one slot works and the second slot is useless. So there are cases, where you don't get a say in the matter, due to a bad design. Given the products you indicate above, I would unplug the 256MB module, and just use the 1GB one. My reason for doing that, might be so that the memory could run at DDR333 (PS2700) speed, rather than DDR266 (PC2100). But whether that would happen, may also depend on whether the processor FSB plays a part in the memory speed choices or not. If the two clock rates are locked together, in fact it might not help, and then you'd just leave both of them plugged in. So if you gave more details about the motherboard, I could suggest a plan of action. Or at least what my preference would be. (If you're going to use the info in Belarc to ID it, *don't* post everything in Belarc. Sometimes, there are software license keys in the report, and you don't want to post that stuff.) If you want another program to provide info about the motherboard, try CPUZ instead. http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php There is a screenshot here, showing what info the program can give you. In this example, the motherboard is an Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe, and I can find a picture of that, and I know exactly how that one works. But sometimes, the motherboard name is not a popular one, so I'm still in the dark. http://pat.marcourt.free.fr/cpu-z.JPG Paul |
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Yes it can.
Some motherboards have slots that take Double Sided (DS) sticks. Other may be limited to 1 DS memory stick and remaining slots require Single Sided (SS) stick. Then there is Dual Channel which if you have four slots then you need matched pairs in odd and even numbered slots. You really need to look at the User's Guide for your Model PC and see what it will accept. You can also try: Crucial Memory Advisor Tool http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM -- JS http://www.pagestart.com "Dale" wrote in message ... Does it matter in which slot a stick is installed ? Belarc Advisor reports: Slot 'J6G1' has 256 MB Slot 'J6G2' has 1024 MB I read somewhere to 'install the largest capacity memory module' in each memory socket. The 256MB 266MHZ PC2100 is OEM (Gateway). 1024MB 333MHZ PC2700 added later, but purchased from Gateway. Thank You -- dale |
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Yes it can.
Some motherboards have slots that take Double Sided (DS) sticks. Other may be limited to 1 DS memory stick and remaining slots require Single Sided (SS) stick. Then there is Dual Channel which if you have four slots then you need matched pairs in odd and even numbered slots. You really need to look at the User's Guide for your Model PC and see what it will accept. You can also try: Crucial Memory Advisor Tool http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM -- JS http://www.pagestart.com "Dale" wrote in message ... Does it matter in which slot a stick is installed ? Belarc Advisor reports: Slot 'J6G1' has 256 MB Slot 'J6G2' has 1024 MB I read somewhere to 'install the largest capacity memory module' in each memory socket. The 256MB 266MHZ PC2100 is OEM (Gateway). 1024MB 333MHZ PC2700 added later, but purchased from Gateway. Thank You -- dale |
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BIOS Type: AMI
BIOS Date: August 21st 2003 BIOS OEM: BIOS Date: 08/21/03 09:49:46 Ver: 08.00.09 - RG84510A.15A.0057.P19.0308210949 Chipset: Intel 2560 rev 1 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz Manufacturer: Gateway 500S PLUS E-4000 Number of Memory Slots on Board: 2 If you need more info, I've probably got it...somewhere. LOL Thanks -- dale "Paul" wrote: Dale wrote: Does it matter in which slot a stick is installed ? Belarc Advisor reports: Slot 'J6G1' has 256 MB Slot 'J6G2' has 1024 MB I read somewhere to 'install the largest capacity memory module' in each memory socket. The 256MB 266MHZ PC2100 is OEM (Gateway). 1024MB 333MHZ PC2700 added later, but purchased from Gateway. Thank You You'd have got more details, if you mentioned the computer make and model number. Generally speaking, it no longer matters which slot you use. If you have a system with three slots on a single channel bus, then there may be some slight differences in stability, depending on how you do things. There are a few modern motherboards, which are pure crap. And for those, some people have discovered one slot works and the second slot is useless. So there are cases, where you don't get a say in the matter, due to a bad design. Given the products you indicate above, I would unplug the 256MB module, and just use the 1GB one. My reason for doing that, might be so that the memory could run at DDR333 (PS2700) speed, rather than DDR266 (PC2100). But whether that would happen, may also depend on whether the processor FSB plays a part in the memory speed choices or not. If the two clock rates are locked together, in fact it might not help, and then you'd just leave both of them plugged in. So if you gave more details about the motherboard, I could suggest a plan of action. Or at least what my preference would be. (If you're going to use the info in Belarc to ID it, *don't* post everything in Belarc. Sometimes, there are software license keys in the report, and you don't want to post that stuff.) If you want another program to provide info about the motherboard, try CPUZ instead. http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php There is a screenshot here, showing what info the program can give you. In this example, the motherboard is an Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe, and I can find a picture of that, and I know exactly how that one works. But sometimes, the motherboard name is not a popular one, so I'm still in the dark. http://pat.marcourt.free.fr/cpu-z.JPG Paul |
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BIOS Type: AMI
BIOS Date: August 21st 2003 BIOS OEM: BIOS Date: 08/21/03 09:49:46 Ver: 08.00.09 - RG84510A.15A.0057.P19.0308210949 Chipset: Intel 2560 rev 1 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz Manufacturer: Gateway 500S PLUS E-4000 Number of Memory Slots on Board: 2 If you need more info, I've probably got it...somewhere. LOL Thanks -- dale "Paul" wrote: Dale wrote: Does it matter in which slot a stick is installed ? Belarc Advisor reports: Slot 'J6G1' has 256 MB Slot 'J6G2' has 1024 MB I read somewhere to 'install the largest capacity memory module' in each memory socket. The 256MB 266MHZ PC2100 is OEM (Gateway). 1024MB 333MHZ PC2700 added later, but purchased from Gateway. Thank You You'd have got more details, if you mentioned the computer make and model number. Generally speaking, it no longer matters which slot you use. If you have a system with three slots on a single channel bus, then there may be some slight differences in stability, depending on how you do things. There are a few modern motherboards, which are pure crap. And for those, some people have discovered one slot works and the second slot is useless. So there are cases, where you don't get a say in the matter, due to a bad design. Given the products you indicate above, I would unplug the 256MB module, and just use the 1GB one. My reason for doing that, might be so that the memory could run at DDR333 (PS2700) speed, rather than DDR266 (PC2100). But whether that would happen, may also depend on whether the processor FSB plays a part in the memory speed choices or not. If the two clock rates are locked together, in fact it might not help, and then you'd just leave both of them plugged in. So if you gave more details about the motherboard, I could suggest a plan of action. Or at least what my preference would be. (If you're going to use the info in Belarc to ID it, *don't* post everything in Belarc. Sometimes, there are software license keys in the report, and you don't want to post that stuff.) If you want another program to provide info about the motherboard, try CPUZ instead. http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php There is a screenshot here, showing what info the program can give you. In this example, the motherboard is an Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe, and I can find a picture of that, and I know exactly how that one works. But sometimes, the motherboard name is not a popular one, so I'm still in the dark. http://pat.marcourt.free.fr/cpu-z.JPG Paul |
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Dale wrote:
BIOS Type: AMI BIOS Date: August 21st 2003 BIOS OEM: BIOS Date: 08/21/03 09:49:46 Ver: 08.00.09 - RG84510A.15A.0057.P19.0308210949 Chipset: Intel 2560 rev 1 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz Manufacturer: Gateway 500S PLUS E-4000 Number of Memory Slots on Board: 2 If you need more info, I've probably got it...somewhere. LOL Thanks http://configurator.memorystock.com/...500S+Plus+2.4G It is an 845G chipset with two slots. 2.4GHz FSB533 processor. CPU input clock is 133MHz (FSB533), memory input clock is 133MHz (DDR266). Single channel memory bus, four banks max (enough for two double sided memory slots). http://download.intel.com/design/chi...s/29074602.pdf For that small a bus, and at that slow an operating speed, it is not going to matter how the slots are populated. I'd only note one other factor. There have been cases, where the BIOS gets confused, while it is reading the DIMM slots. Each DIMM should have a tiny SPD chip on it. That is an erasable memory chip, which contains information about the memory module characteristics. Sometimes, one order of the modules doesn't work properly 1GB 256 "1280MB detected" 256 1GB " 256MB detected" Sometimes, the detection of one module type, throws off the detection of the other. This is a BIOS coding issue of some sort, a BIOS bug. If you find that Windows cannot see something close to the full memory, then try swapping the slots. But in terms of actual stability, it shouldn't matter. Any time you add memory to a system, test with memtest86+ from memtest.org first (or one one of several other memory testers). This will give you a quick indication of whether all is well or not. The test will run forever, unless you stop it. I recommend two passes, as a quick test. The thing is, the test is not that stressful for the memory, so it is not the final authority as to whether the new memory is good. Once that is finished, you can try booting into Windows. Your 845G will be reserving some memory for the frame buffer (at least, unless you have an add-in graphics card - one of those has its own graphics memory). If you check Task Manager, you might see 1280MB - 8MB = 1272MB physical memory installed. If using the internal graphics, a small amount of memory is used for the frame buffer, and gets subtracted from the total. Then, you can try the Prime95 stress test. This version is multithreaded (it can run on an old computer or a new one, and uses as much of the processor as possible). This program is from Mersenne.org, a site that is associated with mathematics. They search for prime numbers. They have a stress test option in their downloadable math program. People use this to test that the CPU and memory of their computer are working correctly. I run this for four hours, and no errors are acceptable. If the computer passes this test, it is fine to use for real work (like filling out your income taxes). http://www.majorgeeks.com/Prime95_d4363.html I cannot get that page to load right now, so you may have to try later. This is the source, but I don't like to overload their server. http://mersenneforum.org/gimps/p95v259.zip ( http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft/ ) You don't have to "join" anything, to use the stress test option. The default settings should do a blended test, and the larger FFT test gives the memory a good workout. The program knows what the answer should be, which is why it can detect errors when they happen. The program stops on the first error detected. It is the amount of time for this to happen, that hints at how stable the computer. My worst record, is the test stopping in only two seconds :-) Really unstable... Paul |
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Dale wrote:
BIOS Type: AMI BIOS Date: August 21st 2003 BIOS OEM: BIOS Date: 08/21/03 09:49:46 Ver: 08.00.09 - RG84510A.15A.0057.P19.0308210949 Chipset: Intel 2560 rev 1 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz Manufacturer: Gateway 500S PLUS E-4000 Number of Memory Slots on Board: 2 If you need more info, I've probably got it...somewhere. LOL Thanks http://configurator.memorystock.com/...500S+Plus+2.4G It is an 845G chipset with two slots. 2.4GHz FSB533 processor. CPU input clock is 133MHz (FSB533), memory input clock is 133MHz (DDR266). Single channel memory bus, four banks max (enough for two double sided memory slots). http://download.intel.com/design/chi...s/29074602.pdf For that small a bus, and at that slow an operating speed, it is not going to matter how the slots are populated. I'd only note one other factor. There have been cases, where the BIOS gets confused, while it is reading the DIMM slots. Each DIMM should have a tiny SPD chip on it. That is an erasable memory chip, which contains information about the memory module characteristics. Sometimes, one order of the modules doesn't work properly 1GB 256 "1280MB detected" 256 1GB " 256MB detected" Sometimes, the detection of one module type, throws off the detection of the other. This is a BIOS coding issue of some sort, a BIOS bug. If you find that Windows cannot see something close to the full memory, then try swapping the slots. But in terms of actual stability, it shouldn't matter. Any time you add memory to a system, test with memtest86+ from memtest.org first (or one one of several other memory testers). This will give you a quick indication of whether all is well or not. The test will run forever, unless you stop it. I recommend two passes, as a quick test. The thing is, the test is not that stressful for the memory, so it is not the final authority as to whether the new memory is good. Once that is finished, you can try booting into Windows. Your 845G will be reserving some memory for the frame buffer (at least, unless you have an add-in graphics card - one of those has its own graphics memory). If you check Task Manager, you might see 1280MB - 8MB = 1272MB physical memory installed. If using the internal graphics, a small amount of memory is used for the frame buffer, and gets subtracted from the total. Then, you can try the Prime95 stress test. This version is multithreaded (it can run on an old computer or a new one, and uses as much of the processor as possible). This program is from Mersenne.org, a site that is associated with mathematics. They search for prime numbers. They have a stress test option in their downloadable math program. People use this to test that the CPU and memory of their computer are working correctly. I run this for four hours, and no errors are acceptable. If the computer passes this test, it is fine to use for real work (like filling out your income taxes). http://www.majorgeeks.com/Prime95_d4363.html I cannot get that page to load right now, so you may have to try later. This is the source, but I don't like to overload their server. http://mersenneforum.org/gimps/p95v259.zip ( http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft/ ) You don't have to "join" anything, to use the stress test option. The default settings should do a blended test, and the larger FFT test gives the memory a good workout. The program knows what the answer should be, which is why it can detect errors when they happen. The program stops on the first error detected. It is the amount of time for this to happen, that hints at how stable the computer. My worst record, is the test stopping in only two seconds :-) Really unstable... Paul |
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On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:10:01 -0700, Dale
wrote: Does it matter in which slot a stick is installed ? Belarc Advisor reports: Slot 'J6G1' has 256 MB Slot 'J6G2' has 1024 MB I read somewhere to 'install the largest capacity memory module' in each memory socket. The 256MB 266MHZ PC2100 is OEM (Gateway). 1024MB 333MHZ PC2700 added later, but purchased from Gateway. Thank You Why bother asking here? This is totally hardware dependent and has nothing to do with the OS |
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On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:10:01 -0700, Dale
wrote: Does it matter in which slot a stick is installed ? Belarc Advisor reports: Slot 'J6G1' has 256 MB Slot 'J6G2' has 1024 MB I read somewhere to 'install the largest capacity memory module' in each memory socket. The 256MB 266MHZ PC2100 is OEM (Gateway). 1024MB 333MHZ PC2700 added later, but purchased from Gateway. Thank You Why bother asking here? This is totally hardware dependent and has nothing to do with the OS |
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Mr. Smith wrote:
Why bother asking here? This is totally hardware dependent and has nothing to do with the OS Off your meds again I see. Did you think we wouldn't notice your garbage postings just because you're using another name? Find another hobby, creep. You're not welcome here. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
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Mr. Smith wrote:
Why bother asking here? This is totally hardware dependent and has nothing to do with the OS Off your meds again I see. Did you think we wouldn't notice your garbage postings just because you're using another name? Find another hobby, creep. You're not welcome here. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
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