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Old February 12th 19, 04:21 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Micky
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I'm using win10 and usually restart to update pretty quickly, but this
time when it asked for now, set a time, or Later, twice I chose later.

This morning, I saw that the computer had restarted. It must have,
because no programs were open. Maybe there was a short power failure.

But 10 minutes afte I started using it, I got that same question, when
do I want to install updates, now, set a time, or later.

How did it manager to restart last night without installing them? Is
that because some essential part of installation occurs during normal
shutdown and I must have had a crash? Or could it be that it never
did restart, but somehow all the programs closed?
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Old February 12th 19, 04:44 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 11:21:40 -0500, micky
wrote:

I'm using win10 and usually restart to update pretty quickly, but this
time when it asked for now, set a time, or Later, twice I chose later.

This morning, I saw that the computer had restarted. It must have,
because no programs were open. Maybe there was a short power failure.


Event Viewer should have an entry about an unplanned shutdown (or words
to that effect) if it was a crash.

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Old February 12th 19, 06:34 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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In alt.comp.os.windows-8, on Tue, 12 Feb 2019 10:44:56 -0600, Char
Jackson wrote:

On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 11:21:40 -0500, micky
wrote:

I'm using win10 and usually restart to update pretty quickly, but this
time when it asked for now, set a time, or Later, twice I chose later.

This morning, I saw that the computer had restarted. It must have,
because no programs were open. Maybe there was a short power failure.


Event Viewer should have an entry about an unplanned shutdown (or words
to that effect) if it was a crash.


I went through every section twice and didn't see anything like that.

There were not tasks in the task bar. That's how I concluded all the
programs had stopped. And the desktop was showing completely.

How could the programs stop by themselves, especially all of them?


How can it make an entry in a log if there is a power failure? Does it
do it when it restarts?


I did see an hour before I stopped using it, but I don't see how this
would matter:

Windows Update started downloading an update.

Installation Started: Windows has started installing the following
update: 9NBLGGH5PNB1-Microsoft.OneConnect

Installation Successful: Windows successfully installed the following
update: 9NBLGGH5PNB1-Microsoft.OneConnect

For - EventData
updateTitle 9NBLGGH5PNB1-Microsoft.OneConnect
updateGuid {0630FB26-CB37-4199-9A75-E22FBE509841}
updateRevisionNumber 1
serviceGuid {855E8A7C-ECB4-4CA3-B045-1DFA50104289}

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Old February 12th 19, 09:55 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-8, on Tue, 12 Feb 2019 10:44:56 -0600, Char
Jackson wrote:

On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 11:21:40 -0500, micky
wrote:

I'm using win10 and usually restart to update pretty quickly, but this
time when it asked for now, set a time, or Later, twice I chose later.

This morning, I saw that the computer had restarted. It must have,
because no programs were open. Maybe there was a short power failure.

Event Viewer should have an entry about an unplanned shutdown (or words
to that effect) if it was a crash.


I went through every section twice and didn't see anything like that.

There were not tasks in the task bar. That's how I concluded all the
programs had stopped. And the desktop was showing completely.

How could the programs stop by themselves, especially all of them?


How can it make an entry in a log if there is a power failure? Does it
do it when it restarts?


I did see an hour before I stopped using it, but I don't see how this
would matter:

Windows Update started downloading an update.

Installation Started: Windows has started installing the following
update: 9NBLGGH5PNB1-Microsoft.OneConnect

Installation Successful: Windows successfully installed the following
update: 9NBLGGH5PNB1-Microsoft.OneConnect

For - EventData
updateTitle 9NBLGGH5PNB1-Microsoft.OneConnect
updateGuid {0630FB26-CB37-4199-9A75-E22FBE509841}
updateRevisionNumber 1
serviceGuid {855E8A7C-ECB4-4CA3-B045-1DFA50104289}


It can put an entry in Task Scheduler, to wake itself during the
"non-busy" period you set in your Active Hours. It's also dumb
enough to not handle it properly. I.e. You could actually install an
update, and it would leave the Task Scheduler entry, then when it
awakes, it says "why am I awake again" ? Because there is no
work to do, so a few minutes later it goes back to sleep.

Because it just does a reboot after waking from sleep
(to make the Update finish installing), and of course it
kills all your running programs...

Are you beginning to see who is driving this bus ?

It ain't you.

*******

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...-in-windows-10

Microsoft.OneConnect Paid Wi-Fi & Cellular Uninstall through UI? = No

But there are articles about removal. I guess you would
class that as "Store Promotional" as if you were to connect
to a paid provider, MS would probably get compensated or
something. I tried Googling the term and the word
"Review" and didn't see any examples of its usage.

Paul
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Old February 12th 19, 10:58 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Char Jackson
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On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 13:34:32 -0500, micky
wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-8, on Tue, 12 Feb 2019 10:44:56 -0600, Char
Jackson wrote:

On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 11:21:40 -0500, micky
wrote:

I'm using win10 and usually restart to update pretty quickly, but this
time when it asked for now, set a time, or Later, twice I chose later.

This morning, I saw that the computer had restarted. It must have,
because no programs were open. Maybe there was a short power failure.


Event Viewer should have an entry about an unplanned shutdown (or words
to that effect) if it was a crash.


I went through every section twice and didn't see anything like that.

There were not tasks in the task bar. That's how I concluded all the
programs had stopped. And the desktop was showing completely.

How could the programs stop by themselves, especially all of them?


How can it make an entry in a log if there is a power failure? Does it
do it when it restarts?


Yes, during restart. Here's an example from one of my PCs from just this
morning:

Level: Critical
Source: Kernel-Power
Event ID: 41
Task category: 63
Message: "The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first.
This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or
lost power unexpectedly."


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Old February 12th 19, 09:18 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default restarting without update installation

This is much less important than the question above (for win10) about
the laptop internet.

I guess my eyes are failing because I clicked on the line for ng win8
instead of win10

So for you win8 folks, here's another copy. :-)


In alt.comp.os.windows-8, on Tue, 12 Feb 2019 10:44:56 -0600, Char
Jackson wrote:

On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 11:21:40 -0500, micky
wrote:

I'm using win10 and usually restart to update pretty quickly, but this
time when it asked for now, set a time, or Later, twice I chose later.


If the win10 box asking when I want to restart showed up when I wasn't
at the computer and I never clicked on any of the choices, would it
restart right then?

This morning, I saw that the computer had restarted. It must have,
because no programs were open. Maybe there was a short power failure.



How did it manager to restart last night without installing them? Is
that because some essential part of installation occurs during normal
shutdown and I must have had a crash? Or could it be that it never
did restart, but somehow all the programs closed?


Event Viewer should have an entry about an unplanned shutdown (or words
to that effect) if it was a crash.


I went through every section twice and didn't see anything like that.

There were no tasks in the task bar. That's how I concluded all the
programs had stopped. And the desktop was showing completely.

How could the programs stop by themselves, especially all of them?


How can it make an entry in a log if there is a power failure? Does it
do it when it restarts?


I did see in the event viewer an hour before I stopped using it, but I
don't see how this would matter:

Windows Update started downloading an update.

Installation Started: Windows has started installing the following
update: 9NBLGGH5PNB1-Microsoft.OneConnect

Installation Successful: Windows successfully installed the following
update: 9NBLGGH5PNB1-Microsoft.OneConnect

For - EventData
updateTitle 9NBLGGH5PNB1-Microsoft.OneConnect
updateGuid {0630FB26-CB37-4199-9A75-E22FBE509841}
updateRevisionNumber 1
serviceGuid {855E8A7C-ECB4-4CA3-B045-1DFA50104289}

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Old February 13th 19, 08:21 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Andy
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Default restarting without update installation

It gives you a delayed time you can set if you ignore it it will force
update and reboot after a certain amount hours have passed does it with
windows 7 as well

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I'm using win10 and usually restart to update pretty quickly, but this
time when it asked for now, set a time, or Later, twice I chose later.

This morning, I saw that the computer had restarted. It must have,
because no programs were open. Maybe there was a short power failure.

But 10 minutes afte I started using it, I got that same question, when
do I want to install updates, now, set a time, or later.

How did it manager to restart last night without installing them? Is
that because some essential part of installation occurs during normal
shutdown and I must have had a crash? Or could it be that it never
did restart, but somehow all the programs closed?



 




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