Event viewer

William

I suggest you post an exact copy of the actual report.

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Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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William B. Lurie wrote:
Thank you, Gerry. I find that the biggest offender is
Automatic Live Update Scheduler, and the only ones I'm
aware of on my system are Norton Anti-Virus, whose Live
Updater I have off, and Windows Update, which I also do
only when I'm in the mood.

Gerry wrote:
You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning
of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description
are important.

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and
double click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which
appears is a button resembling two pages. Click the button and close
Event Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the
body of the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting
from Event Viewer.

William

I suggest you post an exact copy of the actual report.

--


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

William B. Lurie wrote:
Thank you, Gerry. I find that the biggest offender is
Automatic Live Update Scheduler, and the only ones I'm
aware of on my system are Norton Anti-Virus, whose Live
Updater I have off, and Windows Update, which I also do
only when I'm in the mood.

Gerry wrote:
You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning
of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description
are important.

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and
double click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which
appears is a button resembling two pages. Click the button and close
Event Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the
body of the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting
from Event Viewer.

Gerry, I found that Norton System Works Premier, which
has a separate menu for such things, has a place where
I can choose "Turn off all automatic updates". I
did that several hours ago, and now the events have
trickled down to a very few.

Let's wait a day and see if it resets itself.

Gerry wrote:
William

I suggest you post an exact copy of the actual report.

Gerry, I found that Norton System Works Premier, which
has a separate menu for such things, has a place where
I can choose "Turn off all automatic updates". I
did that several hours ago, and now the events have
trickled down to a very few.

Let's wait a day and see if it resets itself.

Gerry wrote:
William

I suggest you post an exact copy of the actual report.

Bruce Chambers wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
You nice folks led me to Event Viewer not too long ago, and
in studying it, I find under Applications that Automatic Live
Update is being run every 3 hours. It isn't my Norton Anti-
Virus Live Update, and I do not allow Windows Live Update to
run. Or at least I think I have it set so that I run Windows
Update when I choose to do so.

How can I track down what is running so often, and preventing
my system from hibernating as a result?

Thank you.



Many applications now install automatic update "features," so it's a
bit hard to narrow it down. Do you have, for instance, Java or Acrobat
Reader installed? Both have automatic updates features that the
computer user is not warned about when installing them. Also, while I
don't think this is the cause in this particular case, do you have your
WinXP clock configured to automatically synchronize with an Internet
time server? (Haven't used WinXP for a couple of years, so I've
forgotten some of the details, such as the frequency of those checks.)

To try narrowing down which application is doing this, double-click
on the pertinent entry in the application log to see if it will identify
a specific executable file's name. You can also use MSConfig to see
what is starting with the computer. Also, just in case someone tried to
be clever, you can check for Scheduled Tasks that would show up in the
usual "Startup" locations.


Thanks for the added clues, Bruce. I do get notices about
downloading updates for Adobe Reader, but never Java. The
only clock reset that I have pings an atomic clock site,
but only on my request.

As I messaged, I found in Norton System Works a place
that ostensibly turns off auto updates, and I'll look
again tomorrow to see what happened overnight.

And it's back to hibernating after an hour so maybe
the intrusions have ceased.

Bruce Chambers wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
You nice folks led me to Event Viewer not too long ago, and
in studying it, I find under Applications that Automatic Live
Update is being run every 3 hours. It isn't my Norton Anti-
Virus Live Update, and I do not allow Windows Live Update to
run. Or at least I think I have it set so that I run Windows
Update when I choose to do so.

How can I track down what is running so often, and preventing
my system from hibernating as a result?

Thank you.



Many applications now install automatic update "features," so it's a
bit hard to narrow it down. Do you have, for instance, Java or Acrobat
Reader installed? Both have automatic updates features that the
computer user is not warned about when installing them. Also, while I
don't think this is the cause in this particular case, do you have your
WinXP clock configured to automatically synchronize with an Internet
time server? (Haven't used WinXP for a couple of years, so I've
forgotten some of the details, such as the frequency of those checks.)

To try narrowing down which application is doing this, double-click
on the pertinent entry in the application log to see if it will identify
a specific executable file's name. You can also use MSConfig to see
what is starting with the computer. Also, just in case someone tried to
be clever, you can check for Scheduled Tasks that would show up in the
usual "Startup" locations.


Thanks for the added clues, Bruce. I do get notices about
downloading updates for Adobe Reader, but never Java. The
only clock reset that I have pings an atomic clock site,
but only on my request.

As I messaged, I found in Norton System Works a place
that ostensibly turns off auto updates, and I'll look
again tomorrow to see what happened overnight.

And it's back to hibernating after an hour so maybe
the intrusions have ceased.

William B. Lurie wrote:

Gerry, I found that Norton System Works Premier, which
has a separate menu for such things, has a place where
I can choose "Turn off all automatic updates". I
did that several hours ago, and now the events have
trickled down to a very few.

But doesn't that also mean that you won't get signature and/or program
updates for your Norton security program? You would end up with an out-of-
date Norton product.

William B. Lurie wrote:

Gerry, I found that Norton System Works Premier, which
has a separate menu for such things, has a place where
I can choose "Turn off all automatic updates". I
did that several hours ago, and now the events have
trickled down to a very few.

But doesn't that also mean that you won't get signature and/or program
updates for your Norton security program? You would end up with an out-of-
date Norton product.

VanguardLH wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:

Gerry, I found that Norton System Works Premier, which
has a separate menu for such things, has a place where
I can choose "Turn off all automatic updates". I
did that several hours ago, and now the events have
trickled down to a very few.

But doesn't that also mean that you won't get signature and/or program
updates for your Norton security program? You would end up with an out-of-
date Norton product.
I turned off all *automatic* updates. I can still do
Live Update when I choose to do so.

VanguardLH wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:

Gerry, I found that Norton System Works Premier, which
has a separate menu for such things, has a place where
I can choose "Turn off all automatic updates". I
did that several hours ago, and now the events have
trickled down to a very few.

But doesn't that also mean that you won't get signature and/or program
updates for your Norton security program? You would end up with an out-of-
date Norton product.
I turned off all *automatic* updates. I can still do
Live Update when I choose to do so.

Gerry wrote:
William

http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?e...ri ty&phase=1




Thanks for the referral, Gerry. I appreciate your effort
to be helpful.....but I found nothing there that would help
me understand the source of the message, or lead me to a
solution. I surmise that I am just not up to it.

Gerry wrote:
William

http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?e...ri ty&phase=1




Thanks for the referral, Gerry. I appreciate your effort
to be helpful.....but I found nothing there that would help
me understand the source of the message, or lead me to a
solution. I surmise that I am just not up to it.

William B. Lurie wrote:

All of the old complaints about Norton and Symantec
taken into consideration, they have cleaned up their act
tremendously over the years, and are extremely helpful and
have kept my machines free of (most) intruders very well.
They do try to do too many things for me automatically,
but I have it tuned so that I am in control. This
automatic live update thing, I changed back to manual,
so I'm not going to shut them down.

You should still uninstall Norton (and disconnect your host from the
network) to clear the event logs and then check later if you are still
getting the same login or policy change failures. I haven't used anything
Norton for awhile but it could be that their firewall's HIPS (host intrusion
prevention system) which you see as their rules but includes heuristics is
causing the events.

William B. Lurie wrote:

All of the old complaints about Norton and Symantec
taken into consideration, they have cleaned up their act
tremendously over the years, and are extremely helpful and
have kept my machines free of (most) intruders very well.
They do try to do too many things for me automatically,
but I have it tuned so that I am in control. This
automatic live update thing, I changed back to manual,
so I'm not going to shut them down.

You should still uninstall Norton (and disconnect your host from the
network) to clear the event logs and then check later if you are still
getting the same login or policy change failures. I haven't used anything
Norton for awhile but it could be that their firewall's HIPS (host intrusion
prevention system) which you see as their rules but includes heuristics is
causing the events.

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Can someone please tell me how to interpret what it shows?
(By the way, I uploaded the file but my notepad can't read
it; I hope somebody can!)