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April 8th 10, 06:01 AM
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"JD" wrote in message ... ggull wrote: I'd just like to say thanks for this interesting discussion. I've got some old 5.25 inchers I'd like to grab the data off of someday, even some old copy protected games it might be fun to play. But a related question. Is there such a thing as an external, say USB, 5.25" floppy drive? (I use an external 3.5" floppy when I need it.) or would it be easy to cobble something like that together? Do a search on Ask.com (or your favorite search engine) and see what you can find. If you have the 5.25 drive and a USB enclosure you might be able to engineer something if you can find the right cables to connect the 5.25 drive to the USB enclosure. -- JD.. The USB enclosure method won't work. Reason is that the electronics in the drive are designed for PATA (EIDE) or SATA drives. The cabling and electronics are entirely different. There are USB 3.5" external floppy drives available but I have never seen one for 5.25" floppies. 
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April 8th 10, 07:26 PM
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"LVTravel" wrote in message ... "JD" wrote in message ... ggull wrote: I'd just like to say thanks for this interesting discussion. I've got some old 5.25 inchers I'd like to grab the data off of someday, even some old copy protected games it might be fun to play. But a related question. Is there such a thing as an external, say USB, 5.25" floppy drive? (I use an external 3.5" floppy when I need it.) or would it be easy to cobble something like that together? Do a search on Ask.com (or your favorite search engine) and see what you can find. If you have the 5.25 drive and a USB enclosure you might be able to engineer something if you can find the right cables to connect the 5.25 drive to the USB enclosure. -- JD.. The USB enclosure method won't work. Reason is that the electronics in the drive are designed for PATA (EIDE) or SATA drives. The cabling and electronics are entirely different. There are USB 3.5" external floppy drives available but I have never seen one for 5.25" floppies. OOPS, should have read "Reason is that the electronics in the drive ENCLOSURE are designed for PATA .... drives. The cabling and electronics in a floppy drive are entirely different." Should have read my own post before sending.
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#33
April 8th 10, 07:26 PM
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"LVTravel" wrote in message ... "JD" wrote in message ... ggull wrote: I'd just like to say thanks for this interesting discussion. I've got some old 5.25 inchers I'd like to grab the data off of someday, even some old copy protected games it might be fun to play. But a related question. Is there such a thing as an external, say USB, 5.25" floppy drive? (I use an external 3.5" floppy when I need it.) or would it be easy to cobble something like that together? Do a search on Ask.com (or your favorite search engine) and see what you can find. If you have the 5.25 drive and a USB enclosure you might be able to engineer something if you can find the right cables to connect the 5.25 drive to the USB enclosure. -- JD.. The USB enclosure method won't work. Reason is that the electronics in the drive are designed for PATA (EIDE) or SATA drives. The cabling and electronics are entirely different. There are USB 3.5" external floppy drives available but I have never seen one for 5.25" floppies. OOPS, should have read "Reason is that the electronics in the drive ENCLOSURE are designed for PATA .... drives. The cabling and electronics in a floppy drive are entirely different." Should have read my own post before sending.
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#34
April 8th 10, 09:20 PM
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LVTravel wrote:
"LVTravel" wrote in message ... "JD" wrote in message ... ggull wrote: I'd just like to say thanks for this interesting discussion. I've got some old 5.25 inchers I'd like to grab the data off of someday, even some old copy protected games it might be fun to play. But a related question. Is there such a thing as an external, say USB, 5.25" floppy drive? (I use an external 3.5" floppy when I need it.) or would it be easy to cobble something like that together? Do a search on Ask.com (or your favorite search engine) and see what you can find. If you have the 5.25 drive and a USB enclosure you might be able to engineer something if you can find the right cables to connect the 5.25 drive to the USB enclosure. -- JD.. The USB enclosure method won't work. Reason is that the electronics in the drive are designed for PATA (EIDE) or SATA drives. The cabling and electronics are entirely different. There are USB 3.5" external floppy drives available but I have never seen one for 5.25" floppies. OOPS, should have read "Reason is that the electronics in the drive ENCLOSURE are designed for PATA .... drives. The cabling and electronics in a floppy drive are entirely different." Should have read my own post before sending. My mother told me once that a sure sign of insanity was when one begins to answer themselves but I guess this is entirely different. 8-) I am glad you cleared that up. Could one change out the 3.5 floppy drive for a 5.25 floppy drive in the USB external floppy drive? Would that cabling and/or electronics be compatable? May be moot since the OP hasn't replied. -- JD..
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#35
April 8th 10, 09:20 PM
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LVTravel wrote:
"LVTravel" wrote in message ... "JD" wrote in message ... ggull wrote: I'd just like to say thanks for this interesting discussion. I've got some old 5.25 inchers I'd like to grab the data off of someday, even some old copy protected games it might be fun to play. But a related question. Is there such a thing as an external, say USB, 5.25" floppy drive? (I use an external 3.5" floppy when I need it.) or would it be easy to cobble something like that together? Do a search on Ask.com (or your favorite search engine) and see what you can find. If you have the 5.25 drive and a USB enclosure you might be able to engineer something if you can find the right cables to connect the 5.25 drive to the USB enclosure. -- JD.. The USB enclosure method won't work. Reason is that the electronics in the drive are designed for PATA (EIDE) or SATA drives. The cabling and electronics are entirely different. There are USB 3.5" external floppy drives available but I have never seen one for 5.25" floppies. OOPS, should have read "Reason is that the electronics in the drive ENCLOSURE are designed for PATA .... drives. The cabling and electronics in a floppy drive are entirely different." Should have read my own post before sending. My mother told me once that a sure sign of insanity was when one begins to answer themselves but I guess this is entirely different. 8-) I am glad you cleared that up. Could one change out the 3.5 floppy drive for a 5.25 floppy drive in the USB external floppy drive? Would that cabling and/or electronics be compatable? May be moot since the OP hasn't replied. -- JD..
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#36
April 9th 10, 12:19 AM
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"JD" wrote in message ... LVTravel wrote: "LVTravel" wrote in message ... "JD" wrote in message ... ggull wrote: I'd just like to say thanks for this interesting discussion. I've got some old 5.25 inchers I'd like to grab the data off of someday, even some old copy protected games it might be fun to play. But a related question. Is there such a thing as an external, say USB, 5.25" floppy drive? (I use an external 3.5" floppy when I need it.) or would it be easy to cobble something like that together? Do a search on Ask.com (or your favorite search engine) and see what you can find. If you have the 5.25 drive and a USB enclosure you might be able to engineer something if you can find the right cables to connect the 5.25 drive to the USB enclosure. -- JD.. The USB enclosure method won't work. Reason is that the electronics in the drive are designed for PATA (EIDE) or SATA drives. The cabling and electronics are entirely different. There are USB 3.5" external floppy drives available but I have never seen one for 5.25" floppies. OOPS, should have read "Reason is that the electronics in the drive ENCLOSURE are designed for PATA .... drives. The cabling and electronics in a floppy drive are entirely different." Should have read my own post before sending. My mother told me once that a sure sign of insanity was when one begins to answer themselves but I guess this is entirely different. 8-) I am glad you cleared that up. Could one change out the 3.5 floppy drive for a 5.25 floppy drive in the USB external floppy drive? Would that cabling and/or electronics be compatable? May be moot since the OP hasn't replied. -- JD.. An alternative approach might be to try and find an old computer with a 5.25 drive on it. Enough of us don't throw stuff out quickly enough that one should be essentially valueless atticware somewhere.
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#37
April 9th 10, 12:19 AM
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"JD" wrote in message ... LVTravel wrote: "LVTravel" wrote in message ... "JD" wrote in message ... ggull wrote: I'd just like to say thanks for this interesting discussion. I've got some old 5.25 inchers I'd like to grab the data off of someday, even some old copy protected games it might be fun to play. But a related question. Is there such a thing as an external, say USB, 5.25" floppy drive? (I use an external 3.5" floppy when I need it.) or would it be easy to cobble something like that together? Do a search on Ask.com (or your favorite search engine) and see what you can find. If you have the 5.25 drive and a USB enclosure you might be able to engineer something if you can find the right cables to connect the 5.25 drive to the USB enclosure. -- JD.. The USB enclosure method won't work. Reason is that the electronics in the drive are designed for PATA (EIDE) or SATA drives. The cabling and electronics are entirely different. There are USB 3.5" external floppy drives available but I have never seen one for 5.25" floppies. OOPS, should have read "Reason is that the electronics in the drive ENCLOSURE are designed for PATA .... drives. The cabling and electronics in a floppy drive are entirely different." Should have read my own post before sending. My mother told me once that a sure sign of insanity was when one begins to answer themselves but I guess this is entirely different. 8-) I am glad you cleared that up. Could one change out the 3.5 floppy drive for a 5.25 floppy drive in the USB external floppy drive? Would that cabling and/or electronics be compatable? May be moot since the OP hasn't replied. -- JD.. An alternative approach might be to try and find an old computer with a 5.25 drive on it. Enough of us don't throw stuff out quickly enough that one should be essentially valueless atticware somewhere.
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#38
April 9th 10, 02:39 AM
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On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 16:19:44 -0700, "Anthony Buckland"
wrote: "JD" wrote in message ... LVTravel wrote: "LVTravel" wrote in message ... "JD" wrote in message ... ggull wrote: I'd just like to say thanks for this interesting discussion. I've got some old 5.25 inchers I'd like to grab the data off of someday, even some old copy protected games it might be fun to play. But a related question. Is there such a thing as an external, say USB, 5.25" floppy drive? (I use an external 3.5" floppy when I need it.) or would it be easy to cobble something like that together? Do a search on Ask.com (or your favorite search engine) and see what you can find. If you have the 5.25 drive and a USB enclosure you might be able to engineer something if you can find the right cables to connect the 5.25 drive to the USB enclosure. -- JD.. The USB enclosure method won't work. Reason is that the electronics in the drive are designed for PATA (EIDE) or SATA drives. The cabling and electronics are entirely different. There are USB 3.5" external floppy drives available but I have never seen one for 5.25" floppies. OOPS, should have read "Reason is that the electronics in the drive ENCLOSURE are designed for PATA .... drives. The cabling and electronics in a floppy drive are entirely different." Should have read my own post before sending. My mother told me once that a sure sign of insanity was when one begins to answer themselves but I guess this is entirely different. 8-) I am glad you cleared that up. Could one change out the 3.5 floppy drive for a 5.25 floppy drive in the USB external floppy drive? Would that cabling and/or electronics be compatable? May be moot since the OP hasn't replied. -- JD.. An alternative approach might be to try and find an old computer with a 5.25 drive on it. Enough of us don't throw stuff out quickly enough that one should be essentially valueless atticware somewhere. I had a 1.2MB 5 1/4" on the first box I installed ZP Pro on and it did work, at least then. We're 3 service packs and a dumptruck load of hot fixes down the line and I don't have that box any more, or an old floppy to see if it still works...good luck!! -- Eddie in Loveland "Space is disease and danger wrapped in darkness and silence." - Leonard McCoy
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April 9th 10, 02:39 AM
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On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 16:19:44 -0700, "Anthony Buckland"
wrote: "JD" wrote in message ... LVTravel wrote: "LVTravel" wrote in message ... "JD" wrote in message ... ggull wrote: I'd just like to say thanks for this interesting discussion. I've got some old 5.25 inchers I'd like to grab the data off of someday, even some old copy protected games it might be fun to play. But a related question. Is there such a thing as an external, say USB, 5.25" floppy drive? (I use an external 3.5" floppy when I need it.) or would it be easy to cobble something like that together? Do a search on Ask.com (or your favorite search engine) and see what you can find. If you have the 5.25 drive and a USB enclosure you might be able to engineer something if you can find the right cables to connect the 5.25 drive to the USB enclosure. -- JD.. The USB enclosure method won't work. Reason is that the electronics in the drive are designed for PATA (EIDE) or SATA drives. The cabling and electronics are entirely different. There are USB 3.5" external floppy drives available but I have never seen one for 5.25" floppies. OOPS, should have read "Reason is that the electronics in the drive ENCLOSURE are designed for PATA .... drives. The cabling and electronics in a floppy drive are entirely different." Should have read my own post before sending. My mother told me once that a sure sign of insanity was when one begins to answer themselves but I guess this is entirely different. 8-) I am glad you cleared that up. Could one change out the 3.5 floppy drive for a 5.25 floppy drive in the USB external floppy drive? Would that cabling and/or electronics be compatable? May be moot since the OP hasn't replied. -- JD.. An alternative approach might be to try and find an old computer with a 5.25 drive on it. Enough of us don't throw stuff out quickly enough that one should be essentially valueless atticware somewhere. I had a 1.2MB 5 1/4" on the first box I installed ZP Pro on and it did work, at least then. We're 3 service packs and a dumptruck load of hot fixes down the line and I don't have that box any more, or an old floppy to see if it still works...good luck!! -- Eddie in Loveland "Space is disease and danger wrapped in darkness and silence." - Leonard McCoy
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April 9th 10, 03:32 AM
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"JD" wrote in message ... LVTravel wrote: "LVTravel" wrote in message ... "JD" wrote in message ... ggull wrote: I'd just like to say thanks for this interesting discussion. I've got some old 5.25 inchers I'd like to grab the data off of someday, even some old copy protected games it might be fun to play. But a related question. Is there such a thing as an external, say USB, 5.25" floppy drive? (I use an external 3.5" floppy when I need it.) or would it be easy to cobble something like that together? Do a search on Ask.com (or your favorite search engine) and see what you can find. If you have the 5.25 drive and a USB enclosure you might be able to engineer something if you can find the right cables to connect the 5.25 drive to the USB enclosure. -- JD.. The USB enclosure method won't work. Reason is that the electronics in the drive are designed for PATA (EIDE) or SATA drives. The cabling and electronics are entirely different. There are USB 3.5" external floppy drives available but I have never seen one for 5.25" floppies. OOPS, should have read "Reason is that the electronics in the drive ENCLOSURE are designed for PATA .... drives. The cabling and electronics in a floppy drive are entirely different." Should have read my own post before sending. My mother told me once that a sure sign of insanity was when one begins to answer themselves but I guess this is entirely different. 8-) I am glad you cleared that up. Could one change out the 3.5 floppy drive for a 5.25 floppy drive in the USB external floppy drive? Would that cabling and/or electronics be compatable? May be moot since the OP hasn't replied. -- JD.. There is two problems with that scenario. One is the size factor. Most USB floppy drives are in cases that just fit the 3.5 inch form factor of the drive so a 5.25 inch drive won't physically fit. Two, is the different physical connector for the two drives. One is a card edge connector (for the 5.25 inch) and pins and sockets on the 3.5 inch. I have seen one 5.25 inch drive just before they became totally unpopular that had the same connector as the 3.5 inch drive but trying to find one of those drives would be next to impossible. That was more than 10 years ago.
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April 9th 10, 03:32 AM
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"JD" wrote in message ... LVTravel wrote: "LVTravel" wrote in message ... "JD" wrote in message ... ggull wrote: I'd just like to say thanks for this interesting discussion. I've got some old 5.25 inchers I'd like to grab the data off of someday, even some old copy protected games it might be fun to play. But a related question. Is there such a thing as an external, say USB, 5.25" floppy drive? (I use an external 3.5" floppy when I need it.) or would it be easy to cobble something like that together? Do a search on Ask.com (or your favorite search engine) and see what you can find. If you have the 5.25 drive and a USB enclosure you might be able to engineer something if you can find the right cables to connect the 5.25 drive to the USB enclosure. -- JD.. The USB enclosure method won't work. Reason is that the electronics in the drive are designed for PATA (EIDE) or SATA drives. The cabling and electronics are entirely different. There are USB 3.5" external floppy drives available but I have never seen one for 5.25" floppies. OOPS, should have read "Reason is that the electronics in the drive ENCLOSURE are designed for PATA .... drives. The cabling and electronics in a floppy drive are entirely different." Should have read my own post before sending. My mother told me once that a sure sign of insanity was when one begins to answer themselves but I guess this is entirely different. 8-) I am glad you cleared that up. Could one change out the 3.5 floppy drive for a 5.25 floppy drive in the USB external floppy drive? Would that cabling and/or electronics be compatable? May be moot since the OP hasn't replied. -- JD.. There is two problems with that scenario. One is the size factor. Most USB floppy drives are in cases that just fit the 3.5 inch form factor of the drive so a 5.25 inch drive won't physically fit. Two, is the different physical connector for the two drives. One is a card edge connector (for the 5.25 inch) and pins and sockets on the 3.5 inch. I have seen one 5.25 inch drive just before they became totally unpopular that had the same connector as the 3.5 inch drive but trying to find one of those drives would be next to impossible. That was more than 10 years ago.
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April 12th 10, 10:59 PM
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I was doing some search for a friend who needed to get data off old 5.25 disks. I have found a solution! Here is the product link: http://www.deviceside.com/fc5025.html Its a 5.25 controller card that plugs into the PC via USB... works on windows and Apple. Here is purchase link: http://shop.deviceside.com/ I actually registered on this site just to leave the message for ya, I found this product randomly and it is a godsend.
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April 12th 10, 10:59 PM
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I was doing some search for a friend who needed to get data off old 5.25 disks. I have found a solution! Here is the product link: http://www.deviceside.com/fc5025.html Its a 5.25 controller card that plugs into the PC via USB... works on windows and Apple. Here is purchase link: http://shop.deviceside.com/ I actually registered on this site just to leave the message for ya, I found this product randomly and it is a godsend.
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April 15th 10, 12:54 AM
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"Anthony Buckland" wrote
"JD" wrote ....... ggull wrote: ..... But a related question. Is there such a thing as an external, say USB, 5.25" floppy drive? (I use an external 3.5" floppy when I need it.) or would it be easy to cobble something like that together? ...... Could one change out the 3.5 floppy drive for a 5.25 floppy drive in the USB external floppy drive? Would that cabling and/or electronics be compatable? May be moot since the OP hasn't replied. -- JD.. An alternative approach might be to try and find an old computer with a 5.25 drive on it. Enough of us don't throw stuff out quickly enough that one should be essentially valueless atticware somewhere. Thanks for the ideas. JD, sorry I was away for a while. Sure didn't seem like a week. Anthony's suggestion seems like it's likely the simplest. I did have someone who was going to give me their dual 5.25 / 3.5 inch machine when they upgraded, but they forgot and just tossed it. I'll have to try Freecycle and the MIT fleamarket, whatever it's called ... once I get rid of one or two of MY old towers! I see xerais also posted a link to a product that looks like a good option.
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April 15th 10, 12:54 AM
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"Anthony Buckland" wrote "JD" wrote ....... ggull wrote: ..... But a related question. Is there such a thing as an external, say USB, 5.25" floppy drive? (I use an external 3.5" floppy when I need it.) or would it be easy to cobble something like that together? ...... Could one change out the 3.5 floppy drive for a 5.25 floppy drive in the USB external floppy drive? Would that cabling and/or electronics be compatable? May be moot since the OP hasn't replied. -- JD.. An alternative approach might be to try and find an old computer with a 5.25 drive on it. Enough of us don't throw stuff out quickly enough that one should be essentially valueless atticware somewhere. Thanks for the ideas. JD, sorry I was away for a while. Sure didn't seem like a week. Anthony's suggestion seems like it's likely the simplest. I did have someone who was going to give me their dual 5.25 / 3.5 inch machine when they upgraded, but they forgot and just tossed it. I'll have to try Freecycle and the MIT fleamarket, whatever it's called ... once I get rid of one or two of MY old towers! I see xerais also posted a link to a product that looks like a good option.
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