Windows Backup Utility

The back up could be corrupted, or non present.

When you made your back up did you verify it? if not the
above possibilities are highly possible.

If the back up was fine, maybe the program has become
corrupt.

check for program updates and do another small back up to
make sure it still works.


-----Original Message-----
I am currently trying to restore a backup file I created
using the Windows XP Backup utility. It is a 800 mb
outlook file that I backed up in January. I can browse to
teh bkf file but when i try to restore it I get amessage
saying that "The backup file could not be found or was
not the file requested." I then try to browse to it again
and get the same message. Another thing that may be
related; when I veiw the file inside of the backup
utility it says it "no entries found" and the size is ?.
I'm sure I am jsut missing something simple so any
instructions are very appreciated.
.

Miha Pihler wrote:

That is not ture. Since Windows 2000 you can select any local or network
drive.

Mike

"Mike" wrote in message
.. .

Unless you have a tape drive (unlikely), the Windows XP backup utility

will

be of little use to you as it will only allow the 'a' drive to be

selected..

consider using the cd burner to save (backup) important files..


"Jenny" wrote in message
.. .

I have recently purchased a new Compaq computer with
Windows XP Home Edition preinstalled. I am not able to
access the Windows Backup Utility which is usually in the
System tools. I cannot install it from a CD because
there was not one supplied with the computer. P C World
support have told me that I can download it from the
Microsoft site but thusfar I have been unable to find it
there. Can anyone help.




Ecen if it's true, sounds like a chicken and egg problem. If you lose
the system and need winxp to access the backup!!!
Better to get an imaging program, look at bootitng.com for inexpensive
solutions and you can evaluate prior to registration.
Dave Cohen

Miha Pihler wrote:

That is not ture. Since Windows 2000 you can select any local or network
drive.

Mike

"Mike" wrote in message
.. .

Unless you have a tape drive (unlikely), the Windows XP backup utility

will

be of little use to you as it will only allow the 'a' drive to be

selected..

consider using the cd burner to save (backup) important files..


"Jenny" wrote in message
.. .

I have recently purchased a new Compaq computer with
Windows XP Home Edition preinstalled. I am not able to
access the Windows Backup Utility which is usually in the
System tools. I cannot install it from a CD because
there was not one supplied with the computer. P C World
support have told me that I can download it from the
Microsoft site but thusfar I have been unable to find it
there. Can anyone help.




Ecen if it's true, sounds like a chicken and egg problem. If you lose
the system and need winxp to access the backup!!!
Better to get an imaging program, look at bootitng.com for inexpensive
solutions and you can evaluate prior to registration.
Dave Cohen

How about ASR (automatic system recovery).

In the end it depends what you want/need. I can create a backup very fast on
local hard drive and them move backup file (*.bkf) to where ever I want
including USB hard drive, network drive, ...

If I go back to my real life experience, I was running Exchange 2000 on
Windows 2000 server. I had very slow backup device and it needed almost all
night to backup my Exchange database. What I did is I added another hard
drive and created backup to it three times a day in about 15 minutes. Then I
copied *.bkf files to tape drive over nigh, but the process didn't lock up
Exchange database so I could perform other tasks like database indexing
etc...
Second advantage of having backup on local (or removable / USB) hard drive
is restore speed. If it took me about 15 minutes to backup, then it took me
about 30 minutes to get files out of *.bkf file, while it took me 6 - 7
hours when restoring from tape...


This is also very similar to how Microsoft does backup it's 7 node Exchange
cluster...



Messaging Backup and Restore at Microsoft

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/its.../msgbrtcs.mspx


Down side of tape devices is their speed, that is the reason why I like to
create backup to hard drives and the price (and speed) of external hard
drives is quite reasonable these days

I hope this helps,

Mike

"Dave Cohen" wrote in message
...
Miha Pihler wrote:

That is not ture. Since Windows 2000 you can select any local or network
drive.

Mike

"Mike" wrote in message
.. .

Unless you have a tape drive (unlikely), the Windows XP backup utility

will

be of little use to you as it will only allow the 'a' drive to be

selected..

consider using the cd burner to save (backup) important files..


"Jenny" wrote in message
.. .

I have recently purchased a new Compaq computer with
Windows XP Home Edition preinstalled. I am not able to
access the Windows Backup Utility which is usually in the
System tools. I cannot install it from a CD because
there was not one supplied with the computer. P C World
support have told me that I can download it from the
Microsoft site but thusfar I have been unable to find it
there. Can anyone help.




Ecen if it's true, sounds like a chicken and egg problem. If you lose
the system and need winxp to access the backup!!!
Better to get an imaging program, look at bootitng.com for inexpensive
solutions and you can evaluate prior to registration.
Dave Cohen

Miha Pihler wrote:

That is not ture. Since Windows 2000 you can select any local or network
drive.

Mike

"Mike" wrote in message
.. .

Unless you have a tape drive (unlikely), the Windows XP backup utility

will

be of little use to you as it will only allow the 'a' drive to be

selected..

consider using the cd burner to save (backup) important files..


"Jenny" wrote in message
.. .

I have recently purchased a new Compaq computer with
Windows XP Home Edition preinstalled. I am not able to
access the Windows Backup Utility which is usually in the
System tools. I cannot install it from a CD because
there was not one supplied with the computer. P C World
support have told me that I can download it from the
Microsoft site but thusfar I have been unable to find it
there. Can anyone help.




Ecen if it's true, sounds like a chicken and egg problem. If you lose
the system and need winxp to access the backup!!!
Better to get an imaging program, look at bootitng.com for inexpensive
solutions and you can evaluate prior to registration.
Dave Cohen

try this site
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...s/kelly00.mspx

"Gordon" wrote in message
...
"Miha Pihler" wrote in message
...
Hi,

can you try it like this:

Start Run type here "ntbackup" (without " ") and click OK.

I hope this helps,

Mike


No it won't because NT Backup is NOT installed by default in Home Edition.
You can install it from the CD but only if you either have a retail copy,
or
your supplier did not customize the OEM copy they gave you.

try this site
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...s/kelly00.mspx

"Gordon" wrote in message
...
"Miha Pihler" wrote in message
...
Hi,

can you try it like this:

Start Run type here "ntbackup" (without " ") and click OK.

I hope this helps,

Mike


No it won't because NT Backup is NOT installed by default in Home Edition.
You can install it from the CD but only if you either have a retail copy,
or
your supplier did not customize the OEM copy they gave you.

Jenny wrote:

I have recently purchased a new Compaq computer with
Windows XP Home Edition preinstalled. I am not able to
access the Windows Backup Utility which is usually in the
System tools.

It is rarely supplied with a preinstalled OEM system like that. If you
can borrow a retail XP CD you will find it in the ValueAdd\Msoft\backup
folder, r-click the .msi file and install. But it has disadvantages -
notably in being a tape oriented system that will not make backups to CD
and I think you would be better looking for a third party program



--
Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies)
Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit)

Jenny wrote:

I have recently purchased a new Compaq computer with
Windows XP Home Edition preinstalled. I am not able to
access the Windows Backup Utility which is usually in the
System tools.

It is rarely supplied with a preinstalled OEM system like that. If you
can borrow a retail XP CD you will find it in the ValueAdd\Msoft\backup
folder, r-click the .msi file and install. But it has disadvantages -
notably in being a tape oriented system that will not make backups to CD
and I think you would be better looking for a third party program



--
Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies)
Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit)

There is no comparison between using ASR and an Disk Imaging program.
For one ASR goes through the basic installation of Windows, then loads
the back up from the ASR file, which will only work assuming the floppy
disk that has the two ASR files on it didn't get damaged in between.
And then it takes awhile to load the ASR copy.

I have compared the two directly, ASR vs. Drive Image. I was up and
running in 1/3 or less the time and the ASR restore did not bring back
everything to full functionality. My AV program, for one, did not run
properly. I would never recommend someone to use ASR in lieu of a disk
imaging program.

Miha Pihler wrote:

How about ASR (automatic system recovery).

In the end it depends what you want/need. I can create a backup very fast on
local hard drive and them move backup file (*.bkf) to where ever I want
including USB hard drive, network drive, ...

If I go back to my real life experience, I was running Exchange 2000 on
Windows 2000 server. I had very slow backup device and it needed almost all
night to backup my Exchange database. What I did is I added another hard
drive and created backup to it three times a day in about 15 minutes. Then I
copied *.bkf files to tape drive over nigh, but the process didn't lock up
Exchange database so I could perform other tasks like database indexing
etc...
Second advantage of having backup on local (or removable / USB) hard drive
is restore speed. If it took me about 15 minutes to backup, then it took me
about 30 minutes to get files out of *.bkf file, while it took me 6 - 7
hours when restoring from tape...


This is also very similar to how Microsoft does backup it's 7 node Exchange
cluster...



Messaging Backup and Restore at Microsoft

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/its.../msgbrtcs.mspx


Down side of tape devices is their speed, that is the reason why I like to
create backup to hard drives and the price (and speed) of external hard
drives is quite reasonable these days

I hope this helps,

Mike

"Dave Cohen" wrote in message
...

Miha Pihler wrote:


That is not ture. Since Windows 2000 you can select any local or network
drive.

Mike

"Mike" wrote in message
m...


Unless you have a tape drive (unlikely), the Windows XP backup utility

will


be of little use to you as it will only allow the 'a' drive to be

selected..


consider using the cd burner to save (backup) important files..


"Jenny" wrote in message
.. .


I have recently purchased a new Compaq computer with
Windows XP Home Edition preinstalled. I am not able to
access the Windows Backup Utility which is usually in the
System tools. I cannot install it from a CD because
there was not one supplied with the computer. P C World
support have told me that I can download it from the
Microsoft site but thusfar I have been unable to find it
there. Can anyone help.



Ecen if it's true, sounds like a chicken and egg problem. If you lose
the system and need winxp to access the backup!!!
Better to get an imaging program, look at bootitng.com for inexpensive
solutions and you can evaluate prior to registration.
Dave Cohen

There is no comparison between using ASR and an Disk Imaging program.
For one ASR goes through the basic installation of Windows, then loads
the back up from the ASR file, which will only work assuming the floppy
disk that has the two ASR files on it didn't get damaged in between.
And then it takes awhile to load the ASR copy.

I have compared the two directly, ASR vs. Drive Image. I was up and
running in 1/3 or less the time and the ASR restore did not bring back
everything to full functionality. My AV program, for one, did not run
properly. I would never recommend someone to use ASR in lieu of a disk
imaging program.

Miha Pihler wrote:

How about ASR (automatic system recovery).

In the end it depends what you want/need. I can create a backup very fast on
local hard drive and them move backup file (*.bkf) to where ever I want
including USB hard drive, network drive, ...

If I go back to my real life experience, I was running Exchange 2000 on
Windows 2000 server. I had very slow backup device and it needed almost all
night to backup my Exchange database. What I did is I added another hard
drive and created backup to it three times a day in about 15 minutes. Then I
copied *.bkf files to tape drive over nigh, but the process didn't lock up
Exchange database so I could perform other tasks like database indexing
etc...
Second advantage of having backup on local (or removable / USB) hard drive
is restore speed. If it took me about 15 minutes to backup, then it took me
about 30 minutes to get files out of *.bkf file, while it took me 6 - 7
hours when restoring from tape...


This is also very similar to how Microsoft does backup it's 7 node Exchange
cluster...



Messaging Backup and Restore at Microsoft

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/its.../msgbrtcs.mspx


Down side of tape devices is their speed, that is the reason why I like to
create backup to hard drives and the price (and speed) of external hard
drives is quite reasonable these days

I hope this helps,

Mike

"Dave Cohen" wrote in message
...

Miha Pihler wrote:


That is not ture. Since Windows 2000 you can select any local or network
drive.

Mike

"Mike" wrote in message
m...


Unless you have a tape drive (unlikely), the Windows XP backup utility

will


be of little use to you as it will only allow the 'a' drive to be

selected..


consider using the cd burner to save (backup) important files..


"Jenny" wrote in message
.. .


I have recently purchased a new Compaq computer with
Windows XP Home Edition preinstalled. I am not able to
access the Windows Backup Utility which is usually in the
System tools. I cannot install it from a CD because
there was not one supplied with the computer. P C World
support have told me that I can download it from the
Microsoft site but thusfar I have been unable to find it
there. Can anyone help.



Ecen if it's true, sounds like a chicken and egg problem. If you lose
the system and need winxp to access the backup!!!
Better to get an imaging program, look at bootitng.com for inexpensive
solutions and you can evaluate prior to registration.
Dave Cohen

Thanks you so much, I have downloaded it from this site
and all is now well.

-----Original Message-----
"Jenny" wrote in message
...
I have recently purchased a new Compaq computer with
Windows XP Home Edition preinstalled. I am not able to
access the Windows Backup Utility which is usually in
the
System tools. I cannot install it from a CD because
there was not one supplied with the computer. P C World
support have told me that I can download it from the
Microsoft site but thusfar I have been unable to find
it
there. Can anyone help.

You can get it he

www.onecomputerguy.com/software/ntbackup.msi


.

Have you tried v2i protector from symantec

"Jenny" wrote in message
...
Thanks you so much, I have downloaded it from this site
and all is now well.

You can get it he

www.onecomputerguy.com/software/ntbackup.msi


You're welcome!

Unless you have a tape drive (unlikely), the Windows XP backup utility will
be of little use to you as it will only allow the 'a' drive to be selected..
consider using the cd burner to save (backup) important files..


"Jenny" wrote in message
...
I have recently purchased a new Compaq computer with
Windows XP Home Edition preinstalled. I am not able to
access the Windows Backup Utility which is usually in the
System tools. I cannot install it from a CD because
there was not one supplied with the computer. P C World
support have told me that I can download it from the
Microsoft site but thusfar I have been unable to find it
there. Can anyone help.