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O.T. Avast pop-up
I have a Dell XPS 8500, with Windows 7 Professional, SP1,
with Spywareblaster, Malwarebytes, Avast , Windows Defender and Windows firewall. (1) TB HD Intel (R) Core (TM) i7-33-3770 CPU @ 3.40 GHz Ram 12.0 GB System type : 64-bit operating system I also have I have a Dell Optiplex 780 Tower, with Windows 7 Professional, SP1, with Spywareblaster, Malwarebytes, Avast , Windows Defender and Windows firewall. Seagate Desktop HDD ST2000DM001 2TB 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" System type : 64-bit operating system and (external hard drives) (8500) WD BLACK SERIES WD2003FZEX 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive (780) Seagate Desktop HDD ST2000DM001 2TB 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive Yesterday I started to get these pop-ups on the 8500. I do not know the site they are referring to. http://i66.tinypic.com/4uj8mq.jpg I ran a Avast scan which found nothing then did a smart scan which found this but I didn't remove it as I did not know if it would adversely affect Firefox. Should I remove it? http://i63.tinypic.com/2f0gmrb.jpg I did a system restore in hopes of clearing this but it still keeps coming back. Is there some way to stop these pop-ups? Thanks, Robert |
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Robert in CA wrote:
I have a Dell XPS 8500, with Windows 7 Professional, SP1, with Spywareblaster, Malwarebytes, Avast , Windows Defender and Windows firewall. (1) TB HD Intel (R) Core (TM) i7-33-3770 CPU @ 3.40 GHz Ram 12.0 GB System type : 64-bit operating system I also have I have a Dell Optiplex 780 Tower, with Windows 7 Professional, SP1, with Spywareblaster, Malwarebytes, Avast , Windows Defender and Windows firewall. Seagate Desktop HDD ST2000DM001 2TB 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" System type : 64-bit operating system and (external hard drives) (8500) WD BLACK SERIES WD2003FZEX 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive (780) Seagate Desktop HDD ST2000DM001 2TB 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive Yesterday I started to get these pop-ups on the 8500. I do not know the site they are referring to. http://i66.tinypic.com/4uj8mq.jpg I ran a Avast scan which found nothing then did a smart scan which found this but I didn't remove it as I did not know if it would adversely affect Firefox. Should I remove it? http://i63.tinypic.com/2f0gmrb.jpg I did a system restore in hopes of clearing this but it still keeps coming back. Is there some way to stop these pop-ups? Thanks, Robert Smart Package Tracker is a browser hijacker / trojan / virus / malware. Do a web search on how to remove it. |
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In message , "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
writes: In message , writes: [] You might want to install and run a simple sandbox program. I use the freebie Time Freeze. http://www.toolwiz.com/lead/toolwiz_time_freeze.php My wife uses it on her Win 7 laptop with no problem. It's simple as hell compared to the confusing Sandboxie deal, which ain't free. When I go to that page, I get a popup that says Your browser slants small, change the time the browser OK (-:! Clicking the OK (or using a different browser) let me see the page. Looks potentially useful; I'd like to see others' thoughts on it. I am not encouraged by the way the website works (needs to be run full-screen - no scrollbars if not - and weird button interface); if the product is equally quirky, life's too short. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Diplomacy is the art of letting someone have your way. |
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Robert in CA wrote:
Yesterday I started to get these pop-ups on the 8500. I do not know the site they are referring to. http://i66.tinypic.com/4uj8mq.jpg I ran a Avast scan which found nothing then did a smart scan which found this but I didn't remove it as I did not know if it would adversely affect Firefox. Should I remove it? http://i63.tinypic.com/2f0gmrb.jpg I did a system restore in hopes of clearing this but it still keeps coming back. Is there some way to stop these pop-ups? Thanks, Robert Why not just use the "Remove Selected" ? The available information seems to suggests something has been added to the browser as an extension, and since you have a tool right there offering to remove it, then... remove it. If that doesn't work, then you can try adwcleaner (a Malwarebytes program now). The theory is, that the added extension will stop trying to contact that server with the expired certificate. And then the popups should stop... if that was the root cause. If you had more than one item like that present, the message could be coming from elsewhere. Use your Avast button and find out. ******* If the smartpackagetracking.com site only installed a browser extension, that might be easily removed. If you actually downloaded an EXE from the site and ran it... then you've got something in Control Panels : Programs and Features that needs to be removed first. An item in Programs and Features could add startup items (the ole tag-team approach), making removal of the browser extension that much more difficult. Every time you boot the computer, a startup item like that could put the browser helper back (which another Avast scan would show). But if this is just a drive-by installation into the browser itself, then Avast might get it on the first try. Paul |
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote
| Looks potentially useful; I'd like to see others' thoughts on it. I am | not encouraged by the way the website works (needs to be run full-screen | - no scrollbars if not - and weird button interface); if the product is | equally quirky, life's too short. Isn't it basically the same as running in lackey user mode? That's the whole point of file restrictions, after all: To prevent people (employees) who use the computer from changing anything except their own personal files. Of course, there are lots of malware hacks to bypass that these days. But that's another issue. I find the page completely broken unless I view it with no style. But that's not unusual these days. In addition to several notable errors, the entire page is put together using jquery crap. In other words, the webmaster writes any old HTML, which doesn't hang together when displayed normally. (Most of the menu doesn't even work, for instance, and I see a big white bar covering much of the text.) Then a pile of jquery script is added. That consists of vast "libraries" of custom javascript, along with the fashionable snippets of the day to add "features" to the page. The jquery then whips the page into some kind of dynamic razzmatazz. This isn't at all unique. It's an epidemic. People are writing broken, crazy-bloated pages that only work with a massive pile of javascript that they don't actually understand themselves. Missing scrollbars is an increasingly common symptom. A simple example is the so-called hamburger menu. Typically 3 bars in the upper right. In this case it's 3 dots. Maybe borrowed from phone UI design? I don't know. But it's a big fad. So instead of having a visible, clear, functional menu, sites will have 3 bars and the menu is entirely hidden unless you click on the 3 bars while enabling javascript. Even if they wanted a hamburgewr menu, they can do that with plain CSS, but these peoplehave no idea what they're doing. They just paste together collected snippets of script. Worse, if someone finds a bug in the jquery then most websites will be hackable. That's basically what happens with Wordpress sites: People who don't know what they're doing use Wordpress tools to build a site. A bug is found in the tools. A comment board library, for instance. But the webmaster doesn't know what they're doing so they never learn that hackers have controlled their site since 2016. This particular site is just slightly more broken than the typical, with errors like HTML code following the page closing tags, and quirky, poor design, like the background image of a shack in a field on the homepage that's almost 1 MB! Combine that with the jquery crap and it's probably close to 3 MB, to provide a menu, 3 buttons, and a picture of a shack. Not long ago, 100 KB was too big for a functional webpage. Now it's not unusual to see bloat of multiple MBs. To produce an empty webpage that takes 5 seconds for the background image to load on a highspeed connection is quite a feat. That's the person you'd be trusting to handle file restrictions on your system. |
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|| Looks potentially useful; I'd like to see others' thoughts on it.
By the way, John, since this is nifty nugget software weekend, I've got another one for you. This one's amazing. You just copy a URL to a site you want to visit, paste it into this program, and SHAZZAM!... The program puts it into your browser's address bar! I think it's called something like PasteAway. Made by the same people who found Paul's other shoe. Unfortunately, they don't have a URL yet. |
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On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 4:33:15 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote: Yesterday I started to get these pop-ups on the 8500. I do not know the site they are referring to. http://i66.tinypic.com/4uj8mq.jpg I ran a Avast scan which found nothing then did a smart scan which found this but I didn't remove it as I did not know if it would adversely affect Firefox. Should I remove it? http://i63.tinypic.com/2f0gmrb.jpg I did a system restore in hopes of clearing this but it still keeps coming back. Is there some way to stop these pop-ups? Thanks, Robert Why not just use the "Remove Selected" ? The available information seems to suggests something has been added to the browser as an extension, and since you have a tool right there offering to remove it, then... remove it. If that doesn't work, then you can try adwcleaner (a Malwarebytes program now). The theory is, that the added extension will stop trying to contact that server with the expired certificate. And then the popups should stop... if that was the root cause. If you had more than one item like that present, the message could be coming from elsewhere. Use your Avast button and find out. ******* If the smartpackagetracking.com site only installed a browser extension, that might be easily removed. If you actually downloaded an EXE from the site and ran it... then you've got something in Control Panels : Programs and Features that needs to be removed first. An item in Programs and Features could add startup items (the ole tag-team approach), making removal of the browser extension that much more difficult. Every time you boot the computer, a startup item like that could put the browser helper back (which another Avast scan would show). But if this is just a drive-by installation into the browser itself, then Avast might get it on the first try. Paul I ran the Avast Smart scan again and removed the file but that didn't stop the pop-ups. I then used Adwcleaner and downloaded the latest version which found 9 threats and also removed them and restarted the computer but the pop-ups are still there. So now what should I do? http://i66.tinypic.com/2qcftk8.jpg Thoughts/suggestions? Robert |
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Robert in CA wrote:
On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 4:33:15 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Robert in CA wrote: Yesterday I started to get these pop-ups on the 8500. I do not know the site they are referring to. http://i66.tinypic.com/4uj8mq.jpg I ran a Avast scan which found nothing then did a smart scan which found this but I didn't remove it as I did not know if it would adversely affect Firefox. Should I remove it? http://i63.tinypic.com/2f0gmrb.jpg I did a system restore in hopes of clearing this but it still keeps coming back. Is there some way to stop these pop-ups? Thanks, Robert Why not just use the "Remove Selected" ? The available information seems to suggests something has been added to the browser as an extension, and since you have a tool right there offering to remove it, then... remove it. If that doesn't work, then you can try adwcleaner (a Malwarebytes program now). The theory is, that the added extension will stop trying to contact that server with the expired certificate. And then the popups should stop... if that was the root cause. If you had more than one item like that present, the message could be coming from elsewhere. Use your Avast button and find out. ******* If the smartpackagetracking.com site only installed a browser extension, that might be easily removed. If you actually downloaded an EXE from the site and ran it... then you've got something in Control Panels : Programs and Features that needs to be removed first. An item in Programs and Features could add startup items (the ole tag-team approach), making removal of the browser extension that much more difficult. Every time you boot the computer, a startup item like that could put the browser helper back (which another Avast scan would show). But if this is just a drive-by installation into the browser itself, then Avast might get it on the first try. Paul I ran the Avast Smart scan again and removed the file but that didn't stop the pop-ups. I then used Adwcleaner and downloaded the latest version which found 9 threats and also removed them and restarted the computer but the pop-ups are still there. So now what should I do? http://i66.tinypic.com/2qcftk8.jpg Thoughts/suggestions? Robert Well, it's the usual thing. 1) Agent is in Firefox folder and some part of starting Firefox, helps the other member of the tag-team, put the crap back. a) Use the Export menu, Export your bookmarks for a rainy day. b) Do a reset of Firefox. (Note: this could affect addons or extensions, depending on what you've added to the browser) https://malwaretips.com/blogs/wp-con...fox-option.jpg c) If the bookmarks are gone, re-import the bookmarks using the file previously exported. 2) You installed something that is doing this. You'd check Control Panels : Programs and Features and see if you can spot a recently added item. For badware, of course there is no guarantee the uninstaller will remove the "payload". But if the payload is stored in C:\Program Files still (the directory the program used is still there), the part it didn't remove might still be there. I think resetting Firefox might be enough, but then I don't know how many actual PUPS you've got right now. Paul |
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In message ,
writes: On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 11:04:25 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote: [] writes: [] You might want to install and run a simple sandbox program. I use the freebie Time Freeze. [] Looks potentially useful; I'd like to see others' thoughts on it. I am not encouraged by the way the website works (needs to be run full-screen - no scrollbars if not - and weird button interface); if the product is equally quirky, life's too short. Try he https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/det...me_freeze.html If you mean for reviews, I see two, both from six years ago - one liked it in 12 words, one said it worked but hosed his Firefox. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf It's not the pace of life that concerns me, it's the sudden stop at the end. |
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In message , Mayayana
writes: "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote | Looks potentially useful; I'd like to see others' thoughts on it. I am | not encouraged by the way the website works (needs to be run full-screen | - no scrollbars if not - and weird button interface); if the product is | equally quirky, life's too short. Isn't it basically the same as running in lackey user mode? That's the whole point of file restrictions, after all: To prevent people (employees) who use the computer from changing anything except their own personal files. It might be. But it could be simpler to use, to try something, than setting up a new strangled user login. Of course, there are lots of malware hacks to bypass that these days. But that's another issue. I find the page completely broken unless I view it with [snip 11 lines] This isn't at all unique. It's an epidemic. People are writing [5] A simple example is the so-called hamburger menu. Typically [6] peoplehave no idea what they're doing. They just paste together [10] This particular site is just slightly more broken than the typical, [6] bloat of multiple MBs. To produce an empty webpage that takes 5 seconds for the background image to load on a highspeed connection is quite a feat. Go on, tell us how you _really_ feel (-:. That's the person you'd be trusting to handle file restrictions on your system. I think I'll be giving it a miss (-: 3 -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf It's not the pace of life that concerns me, it's the sudden stop at the end. |
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On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 11:05:36 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote: On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 4:33:15 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Robert in CA wrote: Yesterday I started to get these pop-ups on the 8500. I do not know the site they are referring to. http://i66.tinypic.com/4uj8mq.jpg I ran a Avast scan which found nothing then did a smart scan which found this but I didn't remove it as I did not know if it would adversely affect Firefox. Should I remove it? http://i63.tinypic.com/2f0gmrb.jpg I did a system restore in hopes of clearing this but it still keeps coming back. Is there some way to stop these pop-ups? Thanks, Robert Why not just use the "Remove Selected" ? The available information seems to suggests something has been added to the browser as an extension, and since you have a tool right there offering to remove it, then... remove it. If that doesn't work, then you can try adwcleaner (a Malwarebytes program now). The theory is, that the added extension will stop trying to contact that server with the expired certificate. And then the popups should stop... if that was the root cause. If you had more than one item like that present, the message could be coming from elsewhere. Use your Avast button and find out. ******* If the smartpackagetracking.com site only installed a browser extension, that might be easily removed. If you actually downloaded an EXE from the site and ran it... then you've got something in Control Panels : Programs and Features that needs to be removed first. An item in Programs and Features could add startup items (the ole tag-team approach), making removal of the browser extension that much more difficult. Every time you boot the computer, a startup item like that could put the browser helper back (which another Avast scan would show). But if this is just a drive-by installation into the browser itself, then Avast might get it on the first try. Paul I ran the Avast Smart scan again and removed the file but that didn't stop the pop-ups. I then used Adwcleaner and downloaded the latest version which found 9 threats and also removed them and restarted the computer but the pop-ups are still there. So now what should I do? http://i66.tinypic.com/2qcftk8.jpg Thoughts/suggestions? Robert Well, it's the usual thing. 1) Agent is in Firefox folder and some part of starting Firefox, helps the other member of the tag-team, put the crap back. a) Use the Export menu, Export your bookmarks for a rainy day. b) Do a reset of Firefox. (Note: this could affect addons or extensions, depending on what you've added to the browser) https://malwaretips.com/blogs/wp-con...fox-option.jpg c) If the bookmarks are gone, re-import the bookmarks using the file previously exported. 2) You installed something that is doing this. You'd check Control Panels : Programs and Features and see if you can spot a recently added item. For badware, of course there is no guarantee the uninstaller will remove the "payload". But if the payload is stored in C:\Program Files still (the directory the program used is still there), the part it didn't remove might still be there. I think resetting Firefox might be enough, but then I don't know how many actual PUPS you've got right now. Paul I imported my most recent bookmarks I had from last year then I reset Firefox and the pop-up is still there. Should I uninstall then reinstall Avast? If so, could you please give me a clean download link? Thoughts/suggestions? Thanks, Robert |
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On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 4:30:29 PM UTC-7, Robert in CA wrote:
On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 11:05:36 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Robert in CA wrote: On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 4:33:15 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Robert in CA wrote: Yesterday I started to get these pop-ups on the 8500. I do not know the site they are referring to. http://i66.tinypic.com/4uj8mq.jpg I ran a Avast scan which found nothing then did a smart scan which found this but I didn't remove it as I did not know if it would adversely affect Firefox. Should I remove it? http://i63.tinypic.com/2f0gmrb.jpg I did a system restore in hopes of clearing this but it still keeps coming back. Is there some way to stop these pop-ups? Thanks, Robert Why not just use the "Remove Selected" ? The available information seems to suggests something has been added to the browser as an extension, and since you have a tool right there offering to remove it, then... remove it. If that doesn't work, then you can try adwcleaner (a Malwarebytes program now). The theory is, that the added extension will stop trying to contact that server with the expired certificate. And then the popups should stop... if that was the root cause. If you had more than one item like that present, the message could be coming from elsewhere. Use your Avast button and find out. ******* If the smartpackagetracking.com site only installed a browser extension, that might be easily removed. If you actually downloaded an EXE from the site and ran it... then you've got something in Control Panels : Programs and Features that needs to be removed first. An item in Programs and Features could add startup items (the ole tag-team approach), making removal of the browser extension that much more difficult. Every time you boot the computer, a startup item like that could put the browser helper back (which another Avast scan would show). But if this is just a drive-by installation into the browser itself, then Avast might get it on the first try. Paul I ran the Avast Smart scan again and removed the file but that didn't stop the pop-ups. I then used Adwcleaner and downloaded the latest version which found 9 threats and also removed them and restarted the computer but the pop-ups are still there. So now what should I do? http://i66.tinypic.com/2qcftk8.jpg Thoughts/suggestions? Robert Well, it's the usual thing. 1) Agent is in Firefox folder and some part of starting Firefox, helps the other member of the tag-team, put the crap back. a) Use the Export menu, Export your bookmarks for a rainy day. b) Do a reset of Firefox. (Note: this could affect addons or extensions, depending on what you've added to the browser) https://malwaretips.com/blogs/wp-con...fox-option.jpg c) If the bookmarks are gone, re-import the bookmarks using the file previously exported. 2) You installed something that is doing this. You'd check Control Panels : Programs and Features and see if you can spot a recently added item. For badware, of course there is no guarantee the uninstaller will remove the "payload". But if the payload is stored in C:\Program Files still (the directory the program used is still there), the part it didn't remove might still be there. I think resetting Firefox might be enough, but then I don't know how many actual PUPS you've got right now. Paul I imported my most recent bookmarks I had from last year then I reset Firefox and the pop-up is still there. Should I uninstall then reinstall Avast? If so, could you please give me a clean download link? Thoughts/suggestions? Thanks, Robert or should I use my backups and restore the 8500 with the last Mrimg? Robert |
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On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 4:59:08 PM UTC-7, Robert in CA wrote:
On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 4:30:29 PM UTC-7, Robert in CA wrote: On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 11:05:36 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Robert in CA wrote: On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 4:33:15 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Robert in CA wrote: Yesterday I started to get these pop-ups on the 8500. I do not know the site they are referring to. http://i66.tinypic.com/4uj8mq.jpg I ran a Avast scan which found nothing then did a smart scan which found this but I didn't remove it as I did not know if it would adversely affect Firefox. Should I remove it? http://i63.tinypic.com/2f0gmrb.jpg I did a system restore in hopes of clearing this but it still keeps coming back. Is there some way to stop these pop-ups? Thanks, Robert Why not just use the "Remove Selected" ? The available information seems to suggests something has been added to the browser as an extension, and since you have a tool right there offering to remove it, then... remove it. If that doesn't work, then you can try adwcleaner (a Malwarebytes program now). The theory is, that the added extension will stop trying to contact that server with the expired certificate. And then the popups should stop... if that was the root cause. If you had more than one item like that present, the message could be coming from elsewhere. Use your Avast button and find out. ******* If the smartpackagetracking.com site only installed a browser extension, that might be easily removed. If you actually downloaded an EXE from the site and ran it... then you've got something in Control Panels : Programs and Features that needs to be removed first. An item in Programs and Features could add startup items (the ole tag-team approach), making removal of the browser extension that much more difficult. Every time you boot the computer, a startup item like that could put the browser helper back (which another Avast scan would show). But if this is just a drive-by installation into the browser itself, then Avast might get it on the first try. Paul I ran the Avast Smart scan again and removed the file but that didn't stop the pop-ups. I then used Adwcleaner and downloaded the latest version which found 9 threats and also removed them and restarted the computer but the pop-ups are still there. So now what should I do? http://i66.tinypic.com/2qcftk8.jpg Thoughts/suggestions? Robert Well, it's the usual thing. 1) Agent is in Firefox folder and some part of starting Firefox, helps the other member of the tag-team, put the crap back. a) Use the Export menu, Export your bookmarks for a rainy day. b) Do a reset of Firefox. (Note: this could affect addons or extensions, depending on what you've added to the browser) https://malwaretips.com/blogs/wp-con...fox-option.jpg c) If the bookmarks are gone, re-import the bookmarks using the file previously exported. 2) You installed something that is doing this. You'd check Control Panels : Programs and Features and see if you can spot a recently added item. For badware, of course there is no guarantee the uninstaller will remove the "payload". But if the payload is stored in C:\Program Files still (the directory the program used is still there), the part it didn't remove might still be there. I think resetting Firefox might be enough, but then I don't know how many actual PUPS you've got right now. Paul I imported my most recent bookmarks I had from last year then I reset Firefox and the pop-up is still there. Should I uninstall then reinstall Avast? If so, could you please give me a clean download link? Thoughts/suggestions? Thanks, Robert or should I use my backups and restore the 8500 with the last Mrimg? Robert Also, I have not downloaded anything that I know of. You know my history with downloads so I would never do that other than what was given to me. The pop-up appears on news pages and Tiny pic but not on eBay or YouTube for example. Robert |
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Robert in CA wrote:
I imported my most recent bookmarks I had from last year then I reset Firefox and the pop-up is still there. Should I uninstall then reinstall Avast? If so, could you please give me a clean download link? Thoughts/suggestions? Thanks, Robert or should I use my backups and restore the 8500 with the last Mrimg? Robert Also, I have not downloaded anything that I know of. You know my history with downloads so I would never do that other than what was given to me. The pop-up appears on news pages and Tiny pic but not on eBay or YouTube for example. Robert I installed a fresh OS to test. I visited their website and installed their crap. The operation was "squeaky clean"! When I reset Firefox, the activity stopped, the browser was returned to normal. Rebooting the machine... achieved nothing. It was still fixed. I installed Avast. It didn't detect the accessing of tags.sp.advertising.com . So I could not reproduce that part either. I have a feeling, somewhere in the detection messages of your various tools, there is the name of some other PUP or infection. I see claims that can be installed as a "drive-by", rather than the straight-up "visit the site and install" that I tested. But that company just doesn't seem to be slimy enough, to be using drive-by installs. So far, the box score for this game, is the site gets a squeaky clean rating, because it didn't tip over the Test Machine, and it "behaved rationally". Something else has to be on your machine. OpenCandy or equivalent. There isn't a strong enough signature of "stink" from this so far. Paul |
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