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Old April 22nd 17, 06:10 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Micky
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Default Making SeaMonkey the default from an XP perspective

Making SeaMonkey the default from an XP perspective

Shouldn't I be able to go into Folder Options, find all the references
to Firefox and change them to SeaMonkey and won't that do it? I
changed 4 out of 5 and I'm 99.9% certain the last one is relevant, but
nothing has changed afaict. That is, clicking on a link in Eudora or
in Agent still opens FF. Do I have to restart Windows after I make
a change like this? (I have restarted it, fwiw.)


At least temporarily, I want to make SeaMonkey the defaul, but when I
installed it, I said No.

So I googled how to make it the default and it said that I should make
sure the preferences say to ask every time SM is started, and they do
say that, but it never asks.

So I went to Folder Options and made the changes above, for http,
https, and two others, but it made no difference. Shouldnt' that have
done it?
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Old April 22nd 17, 06:45 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default Making SeaMonkey the default from an XP perspective

Micky wrote:

Making SeaMonkey the default from an XP perspective

Shouldn't I be able to go into Folder Options, find all the references
to Firefox and change them to SeaMonkey and won't that do it? I
changed 4 out of 5 and I'm 99.9% certain the last one is relevant, but
nothing has changed afaict. That is, clicking on a link in Eudora or
in Agent still opens FF. Do I have to restart Windows after I make
a change like this? (I have restarted it, fwiw.)

At least temporarily, I want to make SeaMonkey the defaul, but when I
installed it, I said No.

So I googled how to make it the default and it said that I should make
sure the preferences say to ask every time SM is started, and they do
say that, but it never asks.

So I went to Folder Options and made the changes above, for http,
https, and two others, but it made no difference. Shouldnt' that have
done it?


Windows XP - Folder Options
General tab: http://tinyurl.com/n58t2gc
View tab: http://tinyurl.com/kr569n5
File Types tab: http://tinyurl.com/lnbgu4m
Offline Files tab: http://tinyurl.com/m5rxlqq

So where are you seeing all those settings to set any web browser as the
default one? Where are you really changing setting to select a default
web browser?

You're claiming Seamonkey does not itself have its own setting to make
it the default web browser? I've never used Seamonkey but here's
someone that shows you, yep, there's a setting right in Seamonkey. See
http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/browserfaq/Default. You never bothered to
mention to Google hits that you say tell you how to set Seamonkey as the
default. None of the procedures mentioned here produce a prompt. YOU
go to the settings to make the change.

Seamonkey is not listed as a choice in Add/Remove Programs - Set
Program Access and Defaults (http://tinyurl.com/mjcsdcl)?
  #3  
Old April 22nd 17, 01:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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Default Making SeaMonkey the default from an XP perspective

In message , VanguardLH
writes:
Micky wrote:

Making SeaMonkey the default from an XP perspective

Shouldn't I be able to go into Folder Options, find all the references
to Firefox and change them to SeaMonkey and won't that do it? I


(I'd have thought its own "make me default" would be the simplest way.)

changed 4 out of 5 and I'm 99.9% certain the last one is relevant, but
nothing has changed afaict. That is, clicking on a link in Eudora or
in Agent still opens FF. Do I have to restart Windows after I make
a change like this? (I have restarted it, fwiw.)

[]
So I googled how to make it the default and it said that I should make
sure the preferences say to ask every time SM is started, and they do
say that, but it never asks.

[]
You're claiming Seamonkey does not itself have its own setting to make
it the default web browser? I've never used Seamonkey but here's
someone that shows you, yep, there's a setting right in Seamonkey. See
http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/browserfaq/Default. You never bothered to
mention to Google hits that you say tell you how to set Seamonkey as the
default. None of the procedures mentioned here produce a prompt. YOU
go to the settings to make the change.

[]
That sort of prompt only appears if you've set it to ask, and it _isn't_
the default.

Some _clients_ have their own default-browser settings; could it be that
Eudora and Agent are such?
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  #4  
Old April 22nd 17, 05:23 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Micky
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Default Making SeaMonkey the default from an XP perspective

On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 00:45:34 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

Micky wrote:

Making SeaMonkey the default from an XP perspective

Shouldn't I be able to go into Folder Options, find all the references
to Firefox and change them to SeaMonkey and won't that do it? I
changed 4 out of 5 and I'm 99.9% certain the last one is relevant, but
nothing has changed afaict. That is, clicking on a link in Eudora or
in Agent still opens FF. Do I have to restart Windows after I make
a change like this? (I have restarted it, fwiw.)

At least temporarily, I want to make SeaMonkey the defaul, but when I
installed it, I said No.

So I googled how to make it the default and it said that I should make
sure the preferences say to ask every time SM is started, and they do
say that, but it never asks.

So I went to Folder Options and made the changes above, for http,
https, and two others, but it made no difference. Shouldnt' that have
done it?


Windows XP - Folder Options
General tab: http://tinyurl.com/n58t2gc
View tab: http://tinyurl.com/kr569n5
File Types tab: http://tinyurl.com/lnbgu4m



This is just an example of what the File Type tab looks like, right?
You're not saying anything particular about the "Folder" file type,
iiu?

Offline Files tab: http://tinyurl.com/m5rxlqq


FWIW I actually don't have that tab.

So where are you seeing all those settings to set any web browser as the
default one?


Just to be clear, not *any* web browswer, only Sea Monkey, and it's in
Alt / Edit / Preferences / Advanced / Check Default Application
Settings on Startup. (To reply to JP, my recollection is that this
was checked, but it certainly is now) And this is what the webpage I
found said to use, which made sense because the first time it started,
it gave me a list of the things it does, web, email, usenet, etc. and
had a checkbox for each to make them the default.

HOWEVER, I JUST FOUND an option I'd missed before, called Make
SeaMonkey the Default, so the setting I was looking at must mean
something else, and it looks like the problem is solved.

Where are you really changing setting to select a default
web browser?

You're claiming Seamonkey does not itself have its own setting to make
it the default web browser? I've never used Seamonkey but here's
someone that shows you, yep, there's a setting right in Seamonkey. See
http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/browserfaq/Default. You never bothered to
mention to Google hits that you say tell you how to set Seamonkey as the
default.


There was only one and I didnt' save it because I saw no need to save
it.

None of the procedures mentioned here produce a prompt. YOU
go to the settings to make the change.


I had gone to settings.

Seamonkey is not listed as a choice in Add/Remove Programs - Set
Program Access and Defaults (http://tinyurl.com/mjcsdcl)?


Very interesting.
  #5  
Old April 22nd 17, 05:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Micky
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Default Making SeaMonkey the default from an XP perspective

On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 13:20:47 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , VanguardLH
writes:
Micky wrote:

Making SeaMonkey the default from an XP perspective

Shouldn't I be able to go into Folder Options, find all the references
to Firefox and change them to SeaMonkey and won't that do it? I


(I'd have thought its own "make me default" would be the simplest way.)


Yup but I missed it the first two times through. Withing
Preferences, it was in a box on the right. That's my excuse and I'm
sticking to it.)

changed 4 out of 5 and I'm 99.9% certain the last one is relevant, but
nothing has changed afaict. That is, clicking on a link in Eudora or
in Agent still opens FF. Do I have to restart Windows after I make
a change like this? (I have restarted it, fwiw.)

[]
So I googled how to make it the default and it said that I should make
sure the preferences say to ask every time SM is started, and they do
say that, but it never asks.

[]
You're claiming Seamonkey does not itself have its own setting to make
it the default web browser? I've never used Seamonkey but here's
someone that shows you, yep, there's a setting right in Seamonkey. See
http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/browserfaq/Default. You never bothered to
mention to Google hits that you say tell you how to set Seamonkey as the
default. None of the procedures mentioned here produce a prompt. YOU
go to the settings to make the change.

[]
That sort of prompt only appears if you've set it to ask, and it _isn't_
the default.


But I checked, and the what I thought was the setting was checked, or
I checked it.

Some _clients_ have their own default-browser settings; could it be that
Eudora and Agent are such?


Agent might but it's not set. Eudora doesn't.
  #6  
Old April 23rd 17, 02:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mynews
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Default Making SeaMonkey the default from an XP perspective

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
...

In message VanguardLH writes:
Micky wrote:
Making SeaMonkey the default from an XP perspective
Shouldn't I be able to go into Folder Options, find all the references
to Firefox and change them to SeaMonkey and won't that do it? I


Vanguard
When You Doing
To Buy A XP

(I'd have thought its own "make me default" would be the simplest way.)


John
You Know XP Have A
Default Setup Page On
Add Or Remove Programs

In good XP
You Have To Use

Start And
On Click It

Click On
Setting

Click On
Control Panel

Click On
Add Or Remove Programs

Click On
Set Programs Access And Defaults

Click On
Custom


If Not There In The List
Uninstall It
Restate PC
And Reinstall

Then On You Will ask
Do You like To Make
It Default E-mailer

Click Yes

  #7  
Old April 23rd 17, 05:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Micky
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Default Making SeaMonkey the default from an XP perspective

On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 08:56:40 -0500, "Mynews"
wrote:

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
...

In message VanguardLH writes:
Micky wrote:
Making SeaMonkey the default from an XP perspective
Shouldn't I be able to go into Folder Options, find all the references
to Firefox and change them to SeaMonkey and won't that do it? I


Vanguard
When You Doing
To Buy A XP

(I'd have thought its own "make me default" would be the simplest way.)


John
You Know XP Have A
Default Setup Page On
Add Or Remove Programs

In good XP
You Have To Use

Start And
On Click It

Click On
Setting

Click On
Control Panel

Click On
Add Or Remove Programs

Click On
Set Programs Access And Defaults


Hey, that's pretty good. Either I never clickedon Pr Acc and Def or
I did and was discouraged by the MS and non-MS choices, but Custom is
pretty good. Maybe I never looked at it before.

Still the presence of 2 other ways to set the default browser doesn't
explain why changing the "Open with" program in Folder Options / File
Types didn't work I changed it for .htm, .html, .xht, and .xhtml,
all from Firefox to Sea Monkey.

Why didn't this change which browser opened when I clicked on a
link?????



(For the record but unimportant:I didn't change it for .hta, which it
calls an HTML application, which I think I recall was set for Firefox,
but now it's set for MS HTML Application Host.)

Click On
Custom


If Not There In The List
Uninstall It
Restate PC
And Reinstall

Then On You Will ask
Do You like To Make
It Default E-mailer

Click Yes


  #8  
Old April 24th 17, 01:44 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mynews
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Posts: 18
Default Making SeaMonkey the default from an XP perspective

"Micky" wrote in message ...

On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 08:56:40 -0500, "Mynews" wrote:

(I'd have thought its own "make me default" would be the simplest way.)

John
You Know XP Have A
Default Setup Page On
Add Or Remove Programs
In XP

You Have To Use
Start And
On Click It
Click On
Setting
Click On
Control Panel
Click On
Add Or Remove Programs
Click On
Set Programs Access And Defaults


Hey, that's pretty good.
Either I never clickedon Pr Acc and Def or
I did and was discouraged by the MS and non-MS choices,
but Custom is pretty good.
Maybe I never looked at it before.


There The Right Way And
program in Folder Options Is Not One

Still the presence of 2 other ways to set the default browser doesn't
explain why changing the "Open with" program in Folder Options / File
Types didn't work I changed it for .htm, .html, .xht, and .xhtml,
all from Firefox to Sea Monkey.


Because The Types is *.MSG For E-mail

Why didn't this change which browser opened when I clicked on a
link?????
(For the record but unimportant:I didn't change it for .hta, which it
calls an HTML application, which I think I recall was set for Firefox,
but now it's set for MS HTML Application Host.)


HTA Code do not change it
You Do Know
Windows Desktop

Reading HTA like
A HTML-Applications


Click On
Custom
If Not There In The List
Uninstall It
Restate PC
And Reinstall
Then On You Will ask
Do You like To Make
It Default E-mailer
Click Yes



  #9  
Old May 4th 17, 10:40 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Micky
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Posts: 112
Default Making SeaMonkey the default from an XP perspective

On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 08:10:02 +0300, Micky wrote:

Making SeaMonkey the default from an XP perspective

At least temporarily, I want to make SeaMonkey the defaul, but when I
installed it, I said No.


BTW, Sea Monkey has been working a lot better than Firefox, only
freezing totally once in 12 days and letting me start a lot more tabs.
Only freezing for a short time maybe 5 times.

It's missing some of the features of FF, like when I make a bookmark,
there's no indication that I've made one, so I've probably bookmarked
the same thing twice. And others. But it works much better.
  #10  
Old May 4th 17, 08:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default Making SeaMonkey the default from an XP perspective

Micky wrote:

BTW, Sea Monkey has been working a lot better than Firefox, only
freezing totally once in 12 days and letting me start a lot more tabs.
Only freezing for a short time maybe 5 times.

It's missing some of the features of FF, like when I make a bookmark,
there's no indication that I've made one, so I've probably bookmarked
the same thing twice. And others. But it works much better.


https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
Version 2.46 (latest) was released back on December, 22, 2016.

Seamonkey is not current with its fork against Firefox. They remain
behind several versions of Firefox. You might have the same effect of
"works much better" had you remained with an older version of Firefox.

https://www.seamonkey-project.org/news
"SeaMonkey 2.46 released: Building on the same Mozilla platform as
Firefox 49, ..."

Seamonkey's latest offering is based on an older version of Firefox.
You did not mention what version of Firefox you were using that did not
work how you wanted. No mention, either, of bitwidth (32 or 64). The
64-bit version of Firefox is more stable and crashes far less than the
32-bit version. However, "Windows XP" means the 32-bit operating
system. "Windows XP x64" was actually Windows 2003 Server crippled down
to a workstation feature set with the XP desktop. Since you are likely
using 32-bit Windows XP, you cannot take advantage of the stability
enhancements in the 64-bit version of Firefox.

Since Seamonkey forks their code from Firefox, and since Firefox is
dropping support for Windows XP, then so will Seamonkey drop support for
Windows XP. It has already happened for both Firefox and Seamonkey.

https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/legacy
"SeaMonkey 2.49 will be the last version supporting Windows XP"

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb...s-xp-and-vista
"Firefox version 52 will be the last complete update for Windows XP"

Currently you can get a later code branch of Firefox running on Windows
XP than you can with Seamonkey. Version 2.49 of Seamonkey, the last
version to support Windows XP, may fork from Firefox 52 (I didn't bother
to hunt around to find out what they plan for their 2.49 version as to
what Firefox version they will fork). Mozilla will support Windows XP
up to version 52 of Firefox. To see what changes are present in Firefox
after version 49, you can review the changelogs of versions 50, 51, and
52 and their minor versions at:

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/releases/

Extensions you install into Firefox are stored under your profile you
load under Firefox. They are not available elsewhere or even in other
Firefox profiles. You likely installed Seamonkey with a different suite
of extensions, if any. You sure the problems you experienced with
Firefox were not due to whatever extensions you installed just for your
Firefox profile?
 




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