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Old November 25th 08, 08:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
JeffH13
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Default No Delete Folders and Contant

I have a shared hard drive on my computer that is on a windows network. On
that hard drive a have folders with the history of previous work we have done
over the last 10 years. Is it possible so those folders and contant of the
folders to be setup so there has to be a pass word type in before they can be
deleted or changed...
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Old November 25th 08, 08:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
Shenan Stanley
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Default No Delete Folders and Contant

JeffH13 wrote:
I have a shared hard drive on my computer that is on a windows
network. On that hard drive a have folders with the history of
previous work we have done over the last 10 years. Is it possible
so those folders and contant of the folders to be setup so there
has to be a pass word type in before they can be deleted or
changed...


If you compress them and/or encrypt them...

Otherwise - Windows XP no longer uses the archaic method of password
protected folders, instead optiong for the file/folder permissions type of
protection.

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Old November 25th 08, 09:23 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
JeffH13
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Default No Delete Folders and Contant

The problem is that I still need to open the files and print the information
off of them from time to time but I don't want them to get changed or deleted.

"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

JeffH13 wrote:
I have a shared hard drive on my computer that is on a windows
network. On that hard drive a have folders with the history of
previous work we have done over the last 10 years. Is it possible
so those folders and contant of the folders to be setup so there
has to be a pass word type in before they can be deleted or
changed...


If you compress them and/or encrypt them...

Otherwise - Windows XP no longer uses the archaic method of password
protected folders, instead optiong for the file/folder permissions type of
protection.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html



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Old November 25th 08, 10:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
Shenan Stanley
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Default No Delete Folders and Contant

JeffH13 wrote:
I have a shared hard drive on my computer that is on a windows
network. On that hard drive a have folders with the history of
previous work we have done over the last 10 years. Is it possible
so those folders and contant of the folders to be setup so there
has to be a pass word type in before they can be deleted or
changed...


Shenan Stanley wrote:
If you compress them and/or encrypt them...

Otherwise - Windows XP no longer uses the archaic method of password
protected folders, instead optiong for the file/folder permissions
type of protection.


JeffH13 wrote:
The problem is that I still need to open the files and print the
information off of them from time to time but I don't want them to
get changed or deleted.


Right - so you set the permissions so that only you have access to them
*and* you wisely back up those files to off-site and perhaps more permanent
media (DVD? Another external hard disk drive? Etc...) Two copies is much
wiser than one.

A password protected compressed folder and/or encryption will not keep you
from opening/printing/deleting the files. Nor will using file/folder
protection. All those things will do will protect said files/folders from
unauthorized access (somewhat.) What happens to the files/folders after
access is granted is no different than if there was no protection and the
same entity accessed them.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html


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Old November 25th 08, 10:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
Twayne[_2_]
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Default No Delete Folders and Contant

JeffH13 wrote:
I have a shared hard drive on my computer that is on a windows
network. On that hard drive a have folders with the history of
previous work we have done over the last 10 years. Is it possible
so those folders and contant of the folders to be setup so there
has to be a pass word type in before they can be deleted or
changed...


Shenan Stanley wrote:
If you compress them and/or encrypt them...

Otherwise - Windows XP no longer uses the archaic method of password
protected folders, instead optiong for the file/folder permissions
type of protection.


JeffH13 wrote:
The problem is that I still need to open the files and print the
information off of them from time to time but I don't want them to
get changed or deleted.


Right - so you set the permissions so that only you have access to
them *and* you wisely back up those files to off-site and perhaps
more permanent media (DVD? Another external hard disk drive? Etc...)
Two copies is much wiser than one.

A password protected compressed folder and/or encryption will not
keep you from opening/printing/deleting the files. Nor will using
file/folder protection. All those things will do will protect said
files/folders from unauthorized access (somewhat.) What happens to
the files/folders after access is granted is no different than if
there was no protection and the same entity accessed them.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP


Well, except that, if they're marked read-only, you will at least get a
blurb that they are read only and do you really want to do that? NOt
much protection when someone's in a hurry & not paying attention, but
.... it's another level at least.

Twayne


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Old November 25th 08, 11:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
Shenan Stanley
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Default No Delete Folders and Contant

JeffH13 wrote:
I have a shared hard drive on my computer that is on a windows
network. On that hard drive a have folders with the history of
previous work we have done over the last 10 years. Is it possible
so those folders and contant of the folders to be setup so there
has to be a pass word type in before they can be deleted or
changed...


Shenan Stanley wrote:
If you compress them and/or encrypt them...

Otherwise - Windows XP no longer uses the archaic method of password
protected folders, instead optiong for the file/folder permissions
type of protection.


JeffH13 wrote:
The problem is that I still need to open the files and print the
information off of them from time to time but I don't want them to
get changed or deleted.


Shenan Stanley wrote:
Right - so you set the permissions so that only you have access to
them *and* you wisely back up those files to off-site and perhaps
more permanent media (DVD? Another external hard disk drive? Etc...) Two
copies is much wiser than one.

A password protected compressed folder and/or encryption will not
keep you from opening/printing/deleting the files. Nor will using
file/folder protection. All those things will do will protect said
files/folders from unauthorized access (somewhat.) What happens to
the files/folders after access is granted is no different than if
there was no protection and the same entity accessed them.


Twayne wrote:
Well, except that, if they're marked read-only, you will at least
get a blurb that they are read only and do you really want to do
that? NOt much protection when someone's in a hurry & not paying
attention, but ... it's another level at least.


True enough...

I guess one more box asking 'are you sure' wouldn't hurt if you feel you
might one day go insane and start deleting your only copy (which is unwise
for computer files in the first place) of something (or you get hacked.)

Did I mention "backups to a more permanent media"? Yeah - it's worth
mentioning twice. ;-)

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MS-MVP
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http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html


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Old November 25th 08, 11:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
Twayne[_2_]
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Default No Delete Folders and Contant

I have a shared hard drive on my computer that is on a windows
network. On that hard drive a have folders with the history of
previous work we have done over the last 10 years. Is it possible so
those folders and contant of the folders to be setup so there has to
be a pass word type in before they can be deleted or changed...


Well, sort of, but not natively with XP; it'd require a 3rd party app if
it has to also protect YOU from deleting them. It's easy enough to
preven others, but you would still be able to.

You don't say what programs you use to open them, but some allow you an
option to open files as "read only" but not on a blanket/permanent
basis AFAIK.

There are 3rd party programs which would do that for you, but I don't
have any to recommend. I try to stay away from 3rd parties as much as I
can, especially with important data. Ymmv

Someone could write a script for you that would always open them in read
only mode IF your program had that ability and you could get the script.
This isn't the newsgroup for that though.

IMO it would be a LOT better to:
-- Make a backup of ALL of those files.
-- Besides that backup, also copy them to DVDs. CLOSE the DVDs so they
can never be written to again; then at least those files can never be
changed and they become a sort of backup bible. At least two copies of
backups are needed, 3 being the most reliable with the 3rd copy kept
offsite, in a different building (fire, theft, etc).
-- Get yourself a CRC or HASH calculator and run it on all the files.
Make the CRC/HASH numbers part of the backup and DVDs. Then if you
suspected a change had occurred in any program, you would rather quickly
(not instantly) tell, and you'd know to refresh it from backup.
-- Of course, newly created files, if that's a consideration, would need
to be built and backed up accordingly too.

There are more ways yet, but they would all depend on even more 3rd
party stuff, so I guess the decision/research would be up to you.

HTH

Twayne



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Old November 26th 08, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Twayne[_2_] View Post
I have a shared hard drive on my computer that is on a windows
network. On that hard drive a have folders with the history of
previous work we have done over the last 10 years. Is it possible so
those folders and contant of the folders to be setup so there has to
be a pass word type in before they can be deleted or changed...


Well, sort of, but not natively with XP; it'd require a 3rd party app if
it has to also protect YOU from deleting them. It's easy enough to
preven others, but you would still be able to.

You don't say what programs you use to open them, but some allow you an
option to open files as "read only" but not on a blanket/permanent
basis AFAIK.

There are 3rd party programs which would do that for you, but I don't
have any to recommend. I try to stay away from 3rd parties as much as I
can, especially with important data. Ymmv

Someone could write a script for you that would always open them in read
only mode IF your program had that ability and you could get the script.
This isn't the newsgroup for that though.

IMO it would be a LOT better to:
-- Make a backup of ALL of those files.
-- Besides that backup, also copy them to DVDs. CLOSE the DVDs so they
can never be written to again; then at least those files can never be
changed and they become a sort of backup bible. At least two copies of
backups are needed, 3 being the most reliable with the 3rd copy kept
offsite, in a different building (fire, theft, etc).
-- Get yourself a CRC or HASH calculator and run it on all the files.
Make the CRC/HASH numbers part of the backup and DVDs. Then if you
suspected a change had occurred in any program, you would rather quickly
(not instantly) tell, and you'd know to refresh it from backup.
-- Of course, newly created files, if that's a consideration, would need
to be built and backed up accordingly too.

There are more ways yet, but they would all depend on even more 3rd
party stuff, so I guess the decision/research would be up to you.

HTH

Twayne

If you are accessing the shared PC then you may have not the permission to change any content or to delete any folder from this shared PC.And if it is accessed by other and it is on read only mode then also you are not be able to do so.
 




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