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  #1  
Old October 30th 11, 06:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware
Don Phillipson[_4_]
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Default Keyboard mystery

On an IBM 8113 (M52) desktop I swapped out the keyboard
to clean it and then got terrible boot problems, both KB and
mouse inoperative, KB error 012 and PXE 061 (Media test
failu check cable.)

The old Logitech Access MB ran well under Logitech software
(so long as one remembers to hit the F lock key to enable it).
Clean replacements tried were HP KB-1306 and IBM KB-0225.
Neither was recognized even when I removed the old KB from
Hardware/Device Manager.

I had to replace the dirty old Logitech KB to get going again
(and System Restore to last week because I had uninstalled
the Logitech software.) Now booting OK -- except for nonfunctional
error report PXE 0161 + BEEP delaying startup.

Any clues? I'd thought WinXP (SP3) was supposed to recognize
as new any KB connected at bootup.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)


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Old October 30th 11, 08:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware
Ken[_8_]
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Default Keyboard mystery

Don Phillipson wrote:
On an IBM 8113 (M52) desktop I swapped out the keyboard
to clean it and then got terrible boot problems, both KB and
mouse inoperative, KB error 012 and PXE 061 (Media test
failu check cable.)


Are you sure you have the mouse and keyboard plugged in their correct
jacks?



The old Logitech Access MB ran well under Logitech software
(so long as one remembers to hit the F lock key to enable it).
Clean replacements tried were HP KB-1306 and IBM KB-0225.
Neither was recognized even when I removed the old KB from
Hardware/Device Manager.

I had to replace the dirty old Logitech KB to get going again
(and System Restore to last week because I had uninstalled
the Logitech software.) Now booting OK -- except for nonfunctional
error report PXE 0161 + BEEP delaying startup.

Any clues? I'd thought WinXP (SP3) was supposed to recognize
as new any KB connected at bootup.


  #3  
Old October 31st 11, 01:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Don Phillipson[_4_]
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Default Keyboard mystery

Don Phillipson wrote:
On an IBM 8113 (M52) desktop I swapped out the keyboard
to clean it and then got terrible boot problems, both KB and
mouse inoperative, KB error 012 and PXE 061 (Media test
failu check cable.)


"Ken" wrote in message ...

Are you sure you have the mouse and keyboard plugged in their correct
jacks?


Being colour-coded, correct PS/2 jacks are easily verified
(KB purple, mouse green, but mine is actually a USB mouse.)

M52 now boots OK with extra RAM (total 3 Gb)
but with two delays:
Error 0164 memory size
Error .61 Media test failure; check cable.
and then boots OK. Can I bypass these by some
BIOS adjustment?
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

The old Logitech Access MB ran well under Logitech software
(so long as one remembers to hit the F lock key to enable it).
Clean replacements tried were HP KB-1306 and IBM KB-0225.
Neither was recognized even when I removed the old KB from
Hardware/Device Manager.

I had to replace the dirty old Logitech KB to get going again
(and System Restore to last week because I had uninstalled
the Logitech software.) Now booting OK -- except for nonfunctional
error report PXE 0161 + BEEP delaying startup.

Any clues? I'd thought WinXP (SP3) was supposed to recognize
as new any KB connected at bootup.





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Old October 31st 11, 01:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware
Brian Cryer[_3_]
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Default Keyboard mystery

"Don Phillipson" wrote in message
...
On an IBM 8113 (M52) desktop I swapped out the keyboard
to clean it and then got terrible boot problems, both KB and
mouse inoperative, KB error 012 and PXE 061 (Media test
failu check cable.)


Does it get as far as starting Windows? This sounds more like a BIOS error.
Which would imply that either the keyboard has been broken while cleaning it
or (as Ken has suggested) the keyboard and mouse have been swapped.

Hope you get it sorted.
--
Brian Cryer
www.cryer.co.uk/brian

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Old October 31st 11, 05:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Ken[_8_]
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Default Keyboard mystery

Don Phillipson wrote:
Don Phillipson wrote:
On an IBM 8113 (M52) desktop I swapped out the keyboard
to clean it and then got terrible boot problems, both KB and
mouse inoperative, KB error 012 and PXE 061 (Media test
failu check cable.)


wrote in message ...

Are you sure you have the mouse and keyboard plugged in their correct
jacks?


Being colour-coded, correct PS/2 jacks are easily verified
(KB purple, mouse green, but mine is actually a USB mouse.)

M52 now boots OK with extra RAM (total 3 Gb)
but with two delays:
Error 0164 memory size


This error message sounds like a setting in CMOS is incorrect. Enter
CMOS right after turning power on. There is normally a message on the
screen telling you how to do this. Normally it requires hitting a key
such as DELETE, ESC, or one of the function keys. Once in there save
the settings and exit. It might solve your problem.
Error .61 Media test failure; check cable.
and then boots OK. Can I bypass these by some
BIOS adjustment?


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Old November 1st 11, 08:54 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
philo[_5_]
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Default Keyboard mystery

On 10/31/2011 07:20 AM, Don Phillipson wrote:
Don Phillipson wrote:
On an IBM 8113 (M52) desktop I swapped out the keyboard
to clean it and then got terrible boot problems, both KB and
mouse inoperative, KB error 012 and PXE 061 (Media test
failu check cable.)


wrote in message ...

Are you sure you have the mouse and keyboard plugged in their correct
jacks?


Being colour-coded, correct PS/2 jacks are easily verified
(KB purple, mouse green, but mine is actually a USB mouse.)

M52 now boots OK with extra RAM (total 3 Gb)
but with two delays:
Error 0164 memory size
Error .61 Media test failure; check cable.
and then boots OK. Can I bypass these by some
BIOS adjustment?




For the memory error you need to OK and save the memory size change

for the PXE error, in the bios you need to remove the network boot
option or else place it lower in your boot device priority
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Old November 1st 11, 01:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Don Phillipson[_4_]
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Default Keyboard mystery

"philo" wrote in message
...

M52 now boots OK with extra RAM (total 3 Gb)
but with two delays:
Error 0164 memory size
Error .61 Media test failure; check cable.
and then boots OK. Can I bypass these by some
BIOS adjustment?


For the memory error you need to OK and save the memory size change

for the PXE error, in the bios you need to remove the network boot option
or else place it lower in your boot device priority


Both now done, thank you, OK.

Both IBM M52s with WinXP SP3 now boot with no
error signals, both from SATA drives. The main physical
difference is that Upstairs has a single 1.5 Tb drive
(partitioned so C:\ = 75 Gb) while downstairs
boots from a 75 Gb C:\ and has a 300 Gb PATA drive.

Upstairs has always booted in 45 seconds, not measured
today but less than 60 sec. Downstairs requires 115
seconds to boot (55 sec. to desktop background.) Both
are configured to load at boot only wireless network connections
and Mailwasher email filter. I should like to tweak faster boot
(and prevent unneeded CTFMON from recurring.) What
web sites seem practical?

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)


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Old November 1st 11, 04:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Rob
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Default Keyboard mystery

On 01/11/2011 12:41, Don Phillipson wrote:
"philo" wrote in message
...

M52 now boots OK with extra RAM (total 3 Gb)
but with two delays:
Error 0164 memory size
Error .61 Media test failure; check cable.
and then boots OK. Can I bypass these by some
BIOS adjustment?


For the memory error you need to OK and save the memory size change

for the PXE error, in the bios you need to remove the network boot option
or else place it lower in your boot device priority


Both now done, thank you, OK.

Both IBM M52s with WinXP SP3 now boot with no
error signals, both from SATA drives. The main physical
difference is that Upstairs has a single 1.5 Tb drive
(partitioned so C:\ = 75 Gb) while downstairs
boots from a 75 Gb C:\ and has a 300 Gb PATA drive.

Upstairs has always booted in 45 seconds, not measured
today but less than 60 sec. Downstairs requires 115
seconds to boot (55 sec. to desktop background.) Both
are configured to load at boot only wireless network connections
and Mailwasher email filter. I should like to tweak faster boot
(and prevent unneeded CTFMON from recurring.) What
web sites seem practical?


Those are quick boot times. I wouldn't mess with sites which
offer tweaks which claim to reduce boot times - far too many
are infested with malware these days, or contain advice which
may trash your system.
Two reletively safe ways to reduce boot times are defragmentation
of the boot hard drive and by disabling any wired ethernet ports (in
the BIOS if possible or by using Device Manager if not), if these
wired ports are not being used. An unused ethernet port can add
30s to the time it takes to boot.

HTH
--
Rob
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Old November 1st 11, 09:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
philo
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Default Keyboard mystery

On 11/01/2011 07:41 AM, Don Phillipson wrote:
wrote in message
...

M52 now boots OK with extra RAM (total 3 Gb)
but with two delays:
Error 0164 memory size
Error .61 Media test failure; check cable.
and then boots OK. Can I bypass these by some
BIOS adjustment?


For the memory error you need to OK and save the memory size change

for the PXE error, in the bios you need to remove the network boot option
or else place it lower in your boot device priority


Both now done, thank you, OK.



Glad you got it

Both IBM M52s with WinXP SP3 now boot with no
error signals, both from SATA drives. The main physical
difference is that Upstairs has a single 1.5 Tb drive
(partitioned so C:\ = 75 Gb) while downstairs
boots from a 75 Gb C:\ and has a 300 Gb PATA drive.

Upstairs has always booted in 45 seconds, not measured
today but less than 60 sec. Downstairs requires 115
seconds to boot (55 sec. to desktop background.) Both
are configured to load at boot only wireless network connections
and Mailwasher email filter. I should like to tweak faster boot
(and prevent unneeded CTFMON from recurring.) What
web sites seem practical?



I would really not too much worry about a 115 sec bootup

maybe you can double check and run msconfig
and see if there are more apps in startup than you think?
 




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