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  #31  
Old April 3rd 20, 03:45 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2020-04-03 9:37 a.m., 😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
On 03/04/2020 04:27, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 03/04/2020 05.19, actodesco wrote:
On 3/25/2020 6:27 PM, Art Todesco wrote:
I'm still locked out of gmail from TBird.Â* I really don't get it.Â*
So today, I uninstalled TBird, downloaded a fresh TBird and, even
though I erased all of my passwords in TBird, it never askes for a
password. Weird!Â* I was going to enable OAuth2 but, as I said, it
never askes for a password or key.Â* Any ideas?
An update on my problem.Â* As I said previously, I have 4 PCs at home
that are having the same problems.Â* I can't use client based email
programs, namely Thunderbird, but I also tried the W10 Email client
program, with similar results.Â* I called Frontier, my provider and of
course, it was not their problem.Â* Yesterday I took my laptop to my
church, where they have a different provider with a fiber directly to
the building.Â* I turned on the laptop, opened Thunderbird and it
immediately started accessing all of my gmails from 2 different
accounts.Â* I was also able to send emails.Â* Talking to the Frontier
techs, they continued to blame Thunderbird.Â* I told them they were
not listening to me as it worked on another ISP's service and I also
had the same problem on W10 email client.Â* After many dropped calls
and false starts, they were going to bump it to the next tier, but it
could take up to 72 hours.Â* I don't believe it will happen without me
squawking again.Â* But, today I took my laptop to a friend's house
that is close by, which also uses Frontier, but on a different
remote.Â* Thunderbird again worked perfectly.Â* So, it looks to me like
the problem is in my remote, DSLM.Â* I'm going to try going to a
neighbor's house, who is on the same remote as me, and see what
happens.Â* No wonder Frontier has filed for some type of bankruptsy
protection!Â* More later, as it happens.


Did you try rebooting your router? Just power cycle it.


No,Â* he decided to let Jesus Christ solve this for him.


He is indeed almighty and all-knowing but Christ prefers to teach people
how to fish rather than provide them with said fish.

Is that OK with
you?Â* Did you know that you are likely to be next for that Chinese Virus
infection.Â* All Spanish and Columbian drug dealers have been given a
tentative date for this!!.

I thank you for calling it what it is: the Chinese Virus. Every nickname
they've used so far has erased the fact that the world is currently
contaminated because they refused to reveal their data or even do
anything about the virus. As such, whether they somehow consider it
racist or not, this virus should go down in history with the appropriate
"Chinese virus" name.

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  #32  
Old April 3rd 20, 04:33 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Rabid Roach wrote:

(just joined Usenet yesterday)


Silver Slimer, is that you ? :-)

Just wondering.

Paul
  #33  
Old April 3rd 20, 07:24 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 4/2/2020 11:27 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 03/04/2020 05.19, actodesco wrote:
On 3/25/2020 6:27 PM, Art Todesco wrote:
I'm still locked out of gmail from TBird.Â* I really don't get it.Â* So
today, I uninstalled TBird, downloaded a fresh TBird and, even though
I erased all of my passwords in TBird, it never askes for a password.
Weird!Â* I was going to enable OAuth2 but, as I said, it never askes
for a password or key.Â* Any ideas?

An update on my problem.Â* As I said previously, I have 4 PCs at home
that are having the same problems.Â* I can't use client based email
programs, namely Thunderbird, but I also tried the W10 Email client
program, with similar results.Â* I called Frontier, my provider and of
course, it was not their problem.Â* Yesterday I took my laptop to my
church, where they have a different provider with a fiber directly to
the building.Â* I turned on the laptop, opened Thunderbird and it
immediately started accessing all of my gmails from 2 different
accounts.Â* I was also able to send emails.Â* Talking to the Frontier
techs, they continued to blame Thunderbird.Â* I told them they were not
listening to me as it worked on another ISP's service and I also had
the same problem on W10 email client.Â* After many dropped calls and
false starts, they were going to bump it to the next tier, but it
could take up to 72 hours.Â* I don't believe it will happen without me
squawking again.Â* But, today I took my laptop to a friend's house that
is close by, which also uses Frontier, but on a different remote.
Thunderbird again worked perfectly.Â* So, it looks to me like the
problem is in my remote, DSLM.Â* I'm going to try going to a neighbor's
house, who is on the same remote as me, and see what happens.Â* No
wonder Frontier has filed for some type of bankruptsy protection!
More later, as it happens.


Did you try rebooting your router? Just power cycle it.

With my ISP I usually HAVE to re-boot my modem/router every few days.
When you can't connect on the internet, you look at the modem, ah, red
light, power down, count to 5 and then repower.
  #34  
Old April 3rd 20, 07:45 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
😉 Good Guy 😉
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On 03/04/2020 19:24, actodesco wrote:
With my ISP I usually HAVE to re-boot my modem/router every few days.
When you can't connect on the internet, you look at the modem, ah, red
light, power down, count to 5 and then repower.


Did you try pinging? At cmd prompt type:

ping smtp.gmail.com


This command does not rely on your email client's configuration. you
should get something like this:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),


Just change your ISP and also give them a mouthful of expletives in your
christian ways.



--
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satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows.

  #35  
Old April 3rd 20, 07:56 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , actodesco
wrote:


With my ISP I usually HAVE to re-boot my modem/router every few days.
When you can't connect on the internet, you look at the modem, ah, red
light, power down, count to 5 and then repower.


that is not normal and sounds like a defective modem/router. ask for a
replacement.
  #36  
Old April 3rd 20, 10:09 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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actodesco wrote:
On 4/2/2020 11:27 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

Did you try rebooting your router? Just power cycle it.

With my ISP I usually HAVE to re-boot my modem/router every few days.
When you can't connect on the internet, you look at the modem, ah, red
light, power down, count to 5 and then repower.


You're not going to believe this, but I've had three incidents
where a lack of performance on phone wires was caused by conditions
*inside* the house. I know that Frontier has a reputation for
"sucking" in some locales, so we have to consider that.

The last time I had ADSL trouble, it was a noise-on-mains problem.
Electrical noise on the 115VAC house wiring, could knock out the
modem and cause the red light to come on. It used to happen
at 9PM, when the SNR is the poorest.

1) I had an old CRT TV set operating. This is back just
before NTSC over-the-air transmissions were shut down.
I look at the TV set, and I notice a "herringbone" pattern
overlaid on the TV picture. I didn't make too much of this
observation at the time.

2) I get the red light on the modem.

3) I go around the room, looking for stuff to shut off.
I turn off my second PC... and the herringbone pattern
disappears. As well, the modem stops acting up. No more
red light.

4) I replaced the ATX supply on my second PC. No more
herringbone pattern. No more loss of sync and red light.

The ATX supply has a pair of switching transistors on the front
end. Some fault in that part of the circuit, caused noise to
go back through the PSU line filter and into the mains. And that's
where the herringbone pattern came from. I could see no visibly
defective components inside (and since I hate high voltage,
I'm not sticking my hands in there when its hot).

With modern digital TV sets (LCD screen) there's a good chance you'll
never see that. But an old analog set with the CRT picture tube,
the "noise-on-mains" goes through all the HV power supply, and
modulates the picture. And in my case, I could use it as a crude
"problem detector".

If you have an analog TV set, but the antenna signal is no longer
available, you can feed the TV from a VCR (S-video or channel 3),
just to get a steady picture, and still look for the herringbone pattern.

That's because the herringbone pattern leaks in through the power cable,
and doesn't come down the antenna wire.

*******

An alternative method, is to place a two or three stage AC line filter
before the wall adapter of the ADSL modem. These cost around $70 when
you used to be able to buy them as a separate item. They filter noise
below about 35MHz or so.

The ADSL modem is sensitive to "thru noise". One of the reasons my
ADSL2+ modem has two stages of DC regulation, is an attempt by the
engineer to stop thru noise on power. If you look at the PCB of the
ADSL modem, you'll see someone has gone to a great deal of trouble
to "balance" the twisted pair signals and their layout as they
work their way through the front end of the modem. Most of the
modem "floats" electrically, and this means there is precious
little that can be done to "filter" stuff. The design "asks for trouble"
in a sense. But, that's the way it must be designed. The DAA is
rated for around 1100V withstanding, and it needs to survive having
a power line outside your house, fall on the phone line and zap it.
And do that, without electrocuting you. It's because of some of these
diverse requirements, that it's not all it could be. It's pretty
amazing that it works as well as it does.

Anyway, have a look at your setup, and you decide whether your
conditions in the house might be a factor.

Another one of my adventures, was caused by the phone wiring.
A junction box on the baseboard, examination of the contacts
in the jack, showed corrosion. I ran a separate wire from the
demarcation point up to the computer room, to eliminate all
the crusty old wiring. And that made an improvement back in
the day when I was having troubles (only 33K on a 56K modem,
after rewire went to 46K or so).

To get phone wire, only my one electronics store was able
to supply me with wire intended for the purpose. They could
measure off a hunk for me, and that's what I used to run a
wire from the basement. Sometimes the hardware store has
a reel of that stuff. Since both the demarc and the new baseboard
jack, have screw terminals, installation is a cinch. The wire
in that case is solid copper wire, maybe 22ga or so, four conductor,
yellow/green/black/red.

Paul
  #37  
Old April 3rd 20, 10:15 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 14:24:19 -0400, actodesco wrote:

With my ISP I usually HAVE to re-boot my modem/router every few days.
When you can't connect on the internet, you look at the modem, ah, red
light, power down, count to 5 and then repower.


How long have you been putting up with that? Do you have any plans to
address that issue?

  #38  
Old April 3rd 20, 11:17 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2020-04-02 20:19, actodesco wrote:
On 3/25/2020 6:27 PM, Art Todesco wrote:
I'm still locked out of gmail from TBird.Â* I really don't get it.Â* So
today, I uninstalled TBird, downloaded a fresh TBird and, even though
I erased all of my passwords in TBird, it never askes for a password.
Weird!Â* I was going to enable OAuth2 but, as I said, it never askes
for a password or key.Â* Any ideas?


An update on my problem.Â* As I said previously, I have 4 PCs at home
that are having the same problems.Â* I can't use client based email
programs, namely Thunderbird, but I also tried the W10 Email client
program, with similar results.Â* I called Frontier, my provider and of
course, it was not their problem.Â* Yesterday I took my laptop to my
church, where they have a different provider with a fiber directly to
the building.Â* I turned on the laptop, opened Thunderbird and it
immediately started accessing all of my gmails from 2 different
accounts.Â* I was also able to send emails.Â* Talking to the Frontier
techs, they continued to blame Thunderbird.Â* I told them they were not
listening to me as it worked on another ISP's service and I also had the
same problem on W10 email client.Â* After many dropped calls and false
starts, they were going to bump it to the next tier, but it could take
up to 72 hours.Â* I don't believe it will happen without me squawking
again.Â* But, today I took my laptop to a friend's house that is close
by, which also uses Frontier, but on a different remote.Â* Thunderbird
again worked perfectly.Â* So, it looks to me like the problem is in my
remote, DSLM.Â* I'm going to try going to a neighbor's house, who is on
the same remote as me, and see what happens.Â* No wonder Frontier has
filed for some type of bankruptsy protection!Â* More later, as it happens.


Hi Art,

I feel your pain.

I have a customer that needed a business account for a
fixed IP and no blocked ports. Frontier had no business
circuits in the area, so they put him on a home circuit
which blocks all kind of incoming syn packets. I showed
them traces and where exactly in the system they were
having the issue. The techs threw their hands up in
the air. Seems that the guy in charge of the firewall
was told by company policy not to speak with customers
and the techs could only leave him sticky notes on his
desk, which he ignored. No amount of complaining by me
or the techs got anywhere.

The solution was to get another ISP.

I have another customer that whenever Frontier discovers
he is running his fax live off his DSL, they disconnect
his fax line. They apologize all over the place and
fix it for about two weeks, then back to the fax
going down again. Ah ya, it was the same guy with
the sticky notes again. And again, no amount of
complaining by me or the techs got anywhere. "Oh
this is wrong" and down the fax went again.

The solution was also to get another ISP.

If you open a trouble ticket on the 800 line,
they CAN NOT speak to the yellow sticky not guy.
Only the techs. They call me, I give them the
information, they leave a sticky note and "ah shucks".

I can not explain Frontier. They are a bunch of, well,
I'd better stop here before I have to wash my mouth
out with soap.

And some folks think Charter/spectrum is bad. (They are.)

I work very closely with a small microwave ISP in the area.
They all know me by name and I am allowed to talk to ANYONE
at their company. It makes a YUGE difference when the
right hand knows what the left hand is doing. We refer
each other a lot. And since it is my company policy NOT
to take kick backs for referrals -- it is a conflict of
interest -- it works out nicely. I only refer when it
is in my customer's best interest.

I don't care for the service from big companies.

Get another ISP. This link will give you a (mostly
accurate) list:

https://broadbandnow.com/

-T

  #39  
Old April 3rd 20, 11:18 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2020-04-03 06:37, 😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
No,Â* he decided to let Jesus Christ solve this for him.Â* Is that OK with
you?Â* Did you know that you are likely to be next for that Chinese Virus
infection.Â* All Spanish and Columbian drug dealers have been given a
tentative date for this!!.


Take your religious bigotry somewhere else nym shifter!

  #40  
Old April 3rd 20, 11:21 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2020-04-03 14:09, Paul wrote:
You'reÂ*notÂ*goingÂ*toÂ*believeÂ*this,Â*butÂ*I've *hadÂ*threeÂ*incidents
whereÂ*aÂ*lackÂ*ofÂ*performanceÂ*onÂ*phoneÂ*wires *wasÂ*causedÂ*byÂ*conditions
*inside*Â*theÂ*house.Â*IÂ*knowÂ*thatÂ*FrontierÂ*ha sÂ*aÂ*reputationÂ*for
"sucking"Â*inÂ*someÂ*locales,Â*soÂ*weÂ*haveÂ*toÂ*c onsiderÂ*that.


Don't you love it when you are staring outside your
window at their cable floppy around on the ground
and they tell you that it is a problem in your facility?

I have had that. Thank you Charter/spectrum.

  #41  
Old April 3rd 20, 11:51 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2020-04-03 07:45, Rabid Roach wrote:
the Chinese Virus. Every nickname
they've used so far has erased the fact that the world is currently
contaminated because they refused to reveal their data or even do
anything about the virus. As such, whether they somehow consider it
racist or not, this virus should go down in history with the appropriate
"Chinese virus" name.


I prefer the RED Chinese Virus of Death.

Keep in mind there are two China's. The nationalists
would have never withheld such information. Free
China (Taiwan) is what China should have been. This
is why I prefer the RED label.

Hmmm. The Spanish flu, the German measles, Lyme
(Connecticut ) disease ... Some folks need to
meet some actual racists before throwing around
such terms.
  #42  
Old April 4th 20, 04:12 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 4/3/2020 5:15 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 14:24:19 -0400, actodesco wrote:

With my ISP I usually HAVE to re-boot my modem/router every few days.
When you can't connect on the internet, you look at the modem, ah, red
light, power down, count to 5 and then repower.


How long have you been putting up with that? Do you have any plans to
address that issue?

For some time now. I'm thinking that when they doubled my speed, even
thought I am a bit over the loop lenth limit, that might be causing it.
But, I'd rather put up with is than have even slower speed.
  #43  
Old April 4th 20, 04:17 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 4/3/2020 6:17 PM, T wrote:
On 2020-04-02 20:19, actodesco wrote:
On 3/25/2020 6:27 PM, Art Todesco wrote:
I'm still locked out of gmail from TBird.Â* I really don't get it.Â* So
today, I uninstalled TBird, downloaded a fresh TBird and, even though
I erased all of my passwords in TBird, it never askes for a password.
Weird!Â* I was going to enable OAuth2 but, as I said, it never askes
for a password or key.Â* Any ideas?


An update on my problem.Â* As I said previously, I have 4 PCs at home
that are having the same problems.Â* I can't use client based email
programs, namely Thunderbird, but I also tried the W10 Email client
program, with similar results.Â* I called Frontier, my provider and of
course, it was not their problem.Â* Yesterday I took my laptop to my
church, where they have a different provider with a fiber directly to
the building.Â* I turned on the laptop, opened Thunderbird and it
immediately started accessing all of my gmails from 2 different
accounts.Â* I was also able to send emails.Â* Talking to the Frontier
techs, they continued to blame Thunderbird.Â* I told them they were not
listening to me as it worked on another ISP's service and I also had
the same problem on W10 email client.Â* After many dropped calls and
false starts, they were going to bump it to the next tier, but it
could take up to 72 hours.Â* I don't believe it will happen without me
squawking again.Â* But, today I took my laptop to a friend's house that
is close by, which also uses Frontier, but on a different remote.
Thunderbird again worked perfectly.Â* So, it looks to me like the
problem is in my remote, DSLM.Â* I'm going to try going to a neighbor's
house, who is on the same remote as me, and see what happens.Â* No
wonder Frontier has filed for some type of bankruptsy protection!
More later, as it happens.


Hi Art,

I feel your pain.

I have a customer that needed a business account for a
fixed IP and no blocked ports.Â* Frontier had no business
circuits in the area, so they put him on a home circuit
which blocks all kind of incoming syn packets.Â* I showed
them traces and where exactly in the system they were
having the issue.Â* The techs threw their hands up in
the air. Seems that the guy in charge of the firewall
was told by company policy not to speak with customers
and the techs could only leave him sticky notes on his
desk, which he ignored.Â* No amount of complaining by me
or the techs got anywhere.

The solution was to get another ISP.

I have another customer that whenever Frontier discovers
he is running his fax live off his DSL, they disconnect
his fax line.Â* They apologize all over the place and
fix it for about two weeks, then back to the fax
going down again.Â* Ah ya, it was the same guy with
the sticky notes again.Â*Â* And again, no amount of
complaining by me or the techs got anywhere.Â* "Oh
this is wrong" and down the fax went again.

The solution was also to get another ISP.

If you open a trouble ticket on the 800 line,
they CAN NOT speak to the yellow sticky not guy.
Only the techs.Â* They call me, I give them the
information, they leave a sticky note and "ah shucks".

I can not explain Frontier.Â* They are a bunch of, well,
I'd better stop here before I have to wash my mouth
out with soap.

And some folks think Charter/spectrum is bad.Â* (They are.)

I work very closely with a small microwave ISP in the area.
They all know me by name and I am allowed to talk to ANYONE
at their company.Â* It makes a YUGE difference when the
right hand knows what the left hand is doing.Â* We refer
each other a lot.Â* And since it is my company policy NOT
to take kick backs for referrals -- it is a conflict of
interest -- it works out nicely.Â* I only refer when it
is in my customer's best interest.

I don't care for the service from big companies.

Get another ISP.Â* This linkÂ* will give you a (mostly
accurate) list:

https://broadbandnow.com/

-T

Unfortunately they are the only game in town. The cable company refuses
to bring cable up the mountain where I live. There are potentially
about 100 customers here, but I'm sure running the cable would be big
bucks. I could go satelite but they pretty much don't allow streaming
of say, movies or MLB content. Also, another thing I've noticed in the
last week or 2 was sometimes when you click on a link, it just sits
there forever. If you reload the link, it pops up almost instantly.
They obviously have some bad paths through their network.
  #44  
Old April 4th 20, 04:37 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 23:12:30 -0400, actodesco wrote:

On 4/3/2020 5:15 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 14:24:19 -0400, actodesco wrote:

With my ISP I usually HAVE to re-boot my modem/router every few days.
When you can't connect on the internet, you look at the modem, ah, red
light, power down, count to 5 and then repower.


How long have you been putting up with that? Do you have any plans to
address that issue?

For some time now. I'm thinking that when they doubled my speed, even
thought I am a bit over the loop lenth limit, that might be causing it.
But, I'd rather put up with is than have even slower speed.


That would drive me nuts, but your situation puts you in a weak negotiating
position. If the only other choice is satellite, then you're sort of stuck
with what you have. Still, maybe the ISP can fix it versus making it worse.
Good luck to you.

  #45  
Old April 4th 20, 05:38 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
T
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On 2020-04-03 20:17, actodesco wrote:
On 4/3/2020 6:17 PM, T wrote:
On 2020-04-02 20:19, actodesco wrote:
On 3/25/2020 6:27 PM, Art Todesco wrote:
I'm still locked out of gmail from TBird.Â* I really don't get it.
So today, I uninstalled TBird, downloaded a fresh TBird and, even
though I erased all of my passwords in TBird, it never askes for a
password. Weird!Â* I was going to enable OAuth2 but, as I said, it
never askes for a password or key.Â* Any ideas?


An update on my problem.Â* As I said previously, I have 4 PCs at home
that are having the same problems.Â* I can't use client based email
programs, namely Thunderbird, but I also tried the W10 Email client
program, with similar results.Â* I called Frontier, my provider and of
course, it was not their problem.Â* Yesterday I took my laptop to my
church, where they have a different provider with a fiber directly to
the building.Â* I turned on the laptop, opened Thunderbird and it
immediately started accessing all of my gmails from 2 different
accounts.Â* I was also able to send emails.Â* Talking to the Frontier
techs, they continued to blame Thunderbird.Â* I told them they were
not listening to me as it worked on another ISP's service and I also
had the same problem on W10 email client.Â* After many dropped calls
and false starts, they were going to bump it to the next tier, but it
could take up to 72 hours.Â* I don't believe it will happen without me
squawking again.Â* But, today I took my laptop to a friend's house
that is close by, which also uses Frontier, but on a different
remote. Thunderbird again worked perfectly.Â* So, it looks to me like
the problem is in my remote, DSLM.Â* I'm going to try going to a
neighbor's house, who is on the same remote as me, and see what
happens.Â* No wonder Frontier has filed for some type of bankruptsy
protection! More later, as it happens.


Hi Art,

I feel your pain.

I have a customer that needed a business account for a
fixed IP and no blocked ports.Â* Frontier had no business
circuits in the area, so they put him on a home circuit
which blocks all kind of incoming syn packets.Â* I showed
them traces and where exactly in the system they were
having the issue.Â* The techs threw their hands up in
the air. Seems that the guy in charge of the firewall
was told by company policy not to speak with customers
and the techs could only leave him sticky notes on his
desk, which he ignored.Â* No amount of complaining by me
or the techs got anywhere.

The solution was to get another ISP.

I have another customer that whenever Frontier discovers
he is running his fax live off his DSL, they disconnect
his fax line.Â* They apologize all over the place and
fix it for about two weeks, then back to the fax
going down again.Â* Ah ya, it was the same guy with
the sticky notes again.Â*Â* And again, no amount of
complaining by me or the techs got anywhere.Â* "Oh
this is wrong" and down the fax went again.

The solution was also to get another ISP.

If you open a trouble ticket on the 800 line,
they CAN NOT speak to the yellow sticky not guy.
Only the techs.Â* They call me, I give them the
information, they leave a sticky note and "ah shucks".

I can not explain Frontier.Â* They are a bunch of, well,
I'd better stop here before I have to wash my mouth
out with soap.

And some folks think Charter/spectrum is bad.Â* (They are.)

I work very closely with a small microwave ISP in the area.
They all know me by name and I am allowed to talk to ANYONE
at their company.Â* It makes a YUGE difference when the
right hand knows what the left hand is doing.Â* We refer
each other a lot.Â* And since it is my company policy NOT
to take kick backs for referrals -- it is a conflict of
interest -- it works out nicely.Â* I only refer when it
is in my customer's best interest.

I don't care for the service from big companies.

Get another ISP.Â* This linkÂ* will give you a (mostly
accurate) list:

https://broadbandnow.com/

-T

Unfortunately they are the only game in town.Â* The cable company refuses
to bring cable up the mountain where I live.Â* There are potentially
about 100 customers here, but I'm sure running the cable would be big
bucks.Â* I could go satelite but they pretty much don't allow streaming
of say, movies or MLB content.Â* Also, another thing I've noticed in the
last week or 2 was sometimes when you click on a link, it just sits
there forever.Â* If you reload the link, it pops up almost instantly.
They obviously have some bad paths through their network.



Are there no microwave services out there?

 




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