Ipad, Itunes and Windows XP....

XP has a problem with the device driver. Did you provide a device driver
for this "iPad". Is an "iPad" supposed to work with XP? Until you
install the proper drivers, or they came with XP(not likely for and
iPad) it isn't going to work. Go check with Apple.

Neil Humphrey wrote:
Hello,

I know talking Ipad could be a dirty topic here, but.......
I am having issues with my Windows XP laptop not wanting to work with my new
iPad. I kind of hoped they would get along. I need both. I have tried the
various recommendations on the Apple site, empting all things Apple from the
system and reinstalling all of it.

When I attach my iPad to my laptop, it sees it as a digital camera. For a
moment, anyway. Then I get a blue screen with a Stop error code. Always the
same. 0x00000070. Computer reboots and wants to check my hard drive. Any
thoughts, suggestions? I have had one brief moment when iTunes actually
started and the laptop recognized the iPad but that lasted only a couple of
moments. I don't know what error codes are, especially this one so any info
would be very welcome......

Hey, Thanks for your help......

I guess you don't actually read posts, you just comment on them. I have been
to Apple and this is a Windows issue.....
Hence why I am here. Now I really appreciate it when I get help from others
with more knowledge than I, but if that is all you have to contribute,
please don't bother......

N


"Klaatu Barada Nikto" wrote in message
...

"Neil Humphrey" wrote in message
...
I have checked apple discussions and had no luck. As it's a Windows
problem, when I plug in an Apple, I figured I would try here........
There is no iPad forum in the Microsoft groups that I can find......

Of course not. Itunes and Ipad forums are hosted by Apple. If you had any
sense, you'd Google for them.


--
Neil Humphrey



"Klaatu Barada Nikto" wrote in message
...
Ask in the IPAD forum. Itunes also has a forum.

"Neil Humphrey" wrote in message
...
Hello,

I know talking Ipad could be a dirty topic here, but.......
I am having issues with my Windows XP laptop not wanting to work with
my new iPad. I kind of hoped they would get along. I need both. I have
tried the various recommendations on the Apple site, empting all things
Apple from the system and reinstalling all of it.

When I attach my iPad to my laptop, it sees it as a digital camera. For
a moment, anyway. Then I get a blue screen with a Stop error code.
Always the same. 0x00000070. Computer reboots and wants to check my
hard drive. Any thoughts, suggestions? I have had one brief moment when
iTunes actually started and the laptop recognized the iPad but that
lasted only a couple of moments. I don't know what error codes are,
especially this one so any info would be very welcome......

--
Neil Humphrey

Hey, Thanks for your help......

I guess you don't actually read posts, you just comment on them. I have been
to Apple and this is a Windows issue.....
Hence why I am here. Now I really appreciate it when I get help from others
with more knowledge than I, but if that is all you have to contribute,
please don't bother......

N


"Klaatu Barada Nikto" wrote in message
...

"Neil Humphrey" wrote in message
...
I have checked apple discussions and had no luck. As it's a Windows
problem, when I plug in an Apple, I figured I would try here........
There is no iPad forum in the Microsoft groups that I can find......

Of course not. Itunes and Ipad forums are hosted by Apple. If you had any
sense, you'd Google for them.


--
Neil Humphrey



"Klaatu Barada Nikto" wrote in message
...
Ask in the IPAD forum. Itunes also has a forum.

"Neil Humphrey" wrote in message
...
Hello,

I know talking Ipad could be a dirty topic here, but.......
I am having issues with my Windows XP laptop not wanting to work with
my new iPad. I kind of hoped they would get along. I need both. I have
tried the various recommendations on the Apple site, empting all things
Apple from the system and reinstalling all of it.

When I attach my iPad to my laptop, it sees it as a digital camera. For
a moment, anyway. Then I get a blue screen with a Stop error code.
Always the same. 0x00000070. Computer reboots and wants to check my
hard drive. Any thoughts, suggestions? I have had one brief moment when
iTunes actually started and the laptop recognized the iPad but that
lasted only a couple of moments. I don't know what error codes are,
especially this one so any info would be very welcome......

--
Neil Humphrey

Hello Bob,

Actually I did uninstall and reinstall the latest from Apple. Some others
had problems that were similar but not identical. There was even a specific
order to uninstall things. Still had the same problem. Others use the two
together all the time. I am taking Alias' suggestion and turning off the
restart. I should now get a better read of the complete error message.

The other thing I was wondering. As the laptop sees the ipad initially as a
type of storage device, specifically a digital camera, is it possible that
Windows is trying to access the "devices" memory and can't, causing the
error? I have noticed that when one connects a device to a Windows machine a
box comes up asking what or how you want to copy info or pictures. Could
this have something to do with that? Can that be turned off?

Thanks for your input....


Neil


"Bob I" wrote in message
...
XP has a problem with the device driver. Did you provide a device driver
for this "iPad". Is an "iPad" supposed to work with XP? Until you install
the proper drivers, or they came with XP(not likely for and iPad) it isn't
going to work. Go check with Apple.

Neil Humphrey wrote:
Hello,

I know talking Ipad could be a dirty topic here, but.......
I am having issues with my Windows XP laptop not wanting to work with my
new iPad. I kind of hoped they would get along. I need both. I have tried
the various recommendations on the Apple site, empting all things Apple
from the system and reinstalling all of it.

When I attach my iPad to my laptop, it sees it as a digital camera. For a
moment, anyway. Then I get a blue screen with a Stop error code. Always
the same. 0x00000070. Computer reboots and wants to check my hard drive.
Any thoughts, suggestions? I have had one brief moment when iTunes
actually started and the laptop recognized the iPad but that lasted only
a couple of moments. I don't know what error codes are, especially this
one so any info would be very welcome......

Hello Bob,

Actually I did uninstall and reinstall the latest from Apple. Some others
had problems that were similar but not identical. There was even a specific
order to uninstall things. Still had the same problem. Others use the two
together all the time. I am taking Alias' suggestion and turning off the
restart. I should now get a better read of the complete error message.

The other thing I was wondering. As the laptop sees the ipad initially as a
type of storage device, specifically a digital camera, is it possible that
Windows is trying to access the "devices" memory and can't, causing the
error? I have noticed that when one connects a device to a Windows machine a
box comes up asking what or how you want to copy info or pictures. Could
this have something to do with that? Can that be turned off?

Thanks for your input....


Neil


"Bob I" wrote in message
...
XP has a problem with the device driver. Did you provide a device driver
for this "iPad". Is an "iPad" supposed to work with XP? Until you install
the proper drivers, or they came with XP(not likely for and iPad) it isn't
going to work. Go check with Apple.

Neil Humphrey wrote:
Hello,

I know talking Ipad could be a dirty topic here, but.......
I am having issues with my Windows XP laptop not wanting to work with my
new iPad. I kind of hoped they would get along. I need both. I have tried
the various recommendations on the Apple site, empting all things Apple
from the system and reinstalling all of it.

When I attach my iPad to my laptop, it sees it as a digital camera. For a
moment, anyway. Then I get a blue screen with a Stop error code. Always
the same. 0x00000070. Computer reboots and wants to check my hard drive.
Any thoughts, suggestions? I have had one brief moment when iTunes
actually started and the laptop recognized the iPad but that lasted only
a couple of moments. I don't know what error codes are, especially this
one so any info would be very welcome......

"Neil Humphrey" wrote in message
...
Hello Bob,

Actually I did uninstall and reinstall the latest from Apple. Some others
had problems that were similar but not identical. There was even a
specific order to uninstall things. Still had the same problem. Others use
the two together all the time. I am taking Alias' suggestion and turning
off the restart. I should now get a better read of the complete error
message.

The other thing I was wondering. As the laptop sees the ipad initially as
a type of storage device, specifically a digital camera, is it possible
that Windows is trying to access the "devices" memory and can't, causing
the error? I have noticed that when one connects a device to a Windows
machine a box comes up asking what or how you want to copy info or
pictures. Could this have something to do with that? Can that be turned
off?

I'm going by one experience with "my" pc when my daughter against my advice
bought an I"something" plays music rather than a no-name mp3 player. I seem
to remember when I first plugged it in without any software it was seen as a
mass storage device and I could copy files back and forth on-off it. I was
ready to step on the thing when I realized mp3 files copied in this manner
would not play on the device WTF!!!

ONLY BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO ... I did end up installing Itunes long enough for
her to get some songs on the device afterwhich I deleted the software as I
found it just was to much of just about everything (instrusive, bloated,
obtuse to use, etc. etc.) to want to keep on system. All of that bs to lock
in a person and maintain DMR of some sort, NO THANK YOU.

If I ever have to go thru that again, it'll be in some throw away OS install
into a VM.


Thanks for your input....


Neil


"Bob I" wrote in message
...
XP has a problem with the device driver. Did you provide a device driver
for this "iPad". Is an "iPad" supposed to work with XP? Until you install
the proper drivers, or they came with XP(not likely for and iPad) it
isn't going to work. Go check with Apple.

Neil Humphrey wrote:
Hello,

I know talking Ipad could be a dirty topic here, but.......
I am having issues with my Windows XP laptop not wanting to work with my
new iPad. I kind of hoped they would get along. I need both. I have
tried the various recommendations on the Apple site, empting all things
Apple from the system and reinstalling all of it.

When I attach my iPad to my laptop, it sees it as a digital camera. For
a moment, anyway. Then I get a blue screen with a Stop error code.
Always the same. 0x00000070. Computer reboots and wants to check my hard
drive. Any thoughts, suggestions? I have had one brief moment when
iTunes actually started and the laptop recognized the iPad but that
lasted only a couple of moments. I don't know what error codes are,
especially this one so any info would be very welcome......

"Neil Humphrey" wrote in message
...
Hello Bob,

Actually I did uninstall and reinstall the latest from Apple. Some others
had problems that were similar but not identical. There was even a
specific order to uninstall things. Still had the same problem. Others use
the two together all the time. I am taking Alias' suggestion and turning
off the restart. I should now get a better read of the complete error
message.

The other thing I was wondering. As the laptop sees the ipad initially as
a type of storage device, specifically a digital camera, is it possible
that Windows is trying to access the "devices" memory and can't, causing
the error? I have noticed that when one connects a device to a Windows
machine a box comes up asking what or how you want to copy info or
pictures. Could this have something to do with that? Can that be turned
off?

I'm going by one experience with "my" pc when my daughter against my advice
bought an I"something" plays music rather than a no-name mp3 player. I seem
to remember when I first plugged it in without any software it was seen as a
mass storage device and I could copy files back and forth on-off it. I was
ready to step on the thing when I realized mp3 files copied in this manner
would not play on the device WTF!!!

ONLY BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO ... I did end up installing Itunes long enough for
her to get some songs on the device afterwhich I deleted the software as I
found it just was to much of just about everything (instrusive, bloated,
obtuse to use, etc. etc.) to want to keep on system. All of that bs to lock
in a person and maintain DMR of some sort, NO THANK YOU.

If I ever have to go thru that again, it'll be in some throw away OS install
into a VM.


Thanks for your input....


Neil


"Bob I" wrote in message
...
XP has a problem with the device driver. Did you provide a device driver
for this "iPad". Is an "iPad" supposed to work with XP? Until you install
the proper drivers, or they came with XP(not likely for and iPad) it
isn't going to work. Go check with Apple.

Neil Humphrey wrote:
Hello,

I know talking Ipad could be a dirty topic here, but.......
I am having issues with my Windows XP laptop not wanting to work with my
new iPad. I kind of hoped they would get along. I need both. I have
tried the various recommendations on the Apple site, empting all things
Apple from the system and reinstalling all of it.

When I attach my iPad to my laptop, it sees it as a digital camera. For
a moment, anyway. Then I get a blue screen with a Stop error code.
Always the same. 0x00000070. Computer reboots and wants to check my hard
drive. Any thoughts, suggestions? I have had one brief moment when
iTunes actually started and the laptop recognized the iPad but that
lasted only a couple of moments. I don't know what error codes are,
especially this one so any info would be very welcome......

Well reinstalled it all and nothing but the same result. I did get to read
the error finally. I was off by a bit. But it doesn't seem anymore helpful.

Say it could be a Drive problem, or a Driver problem, or a Bios problem. The
error code is actually 0X0000007E. I thought it was a 0 on the end but guess
not. Then it's followed by four more equally strange numbers all beginning
with 0X......In brackets.......
I guess I will have to keep trying. It attaches to a desktop machine I have
and works fine on there. But I need it to work with my laptop.....

Thanks again all for looking....

Neil


"Neil Humphrey" wrote in message
...
Hello,

I know talking Ipad could be a dirty topic here, but.......
I am having issues with my Windows XP laptop not wanting to work with my
new iPad. I kind of hoped they would get along. I need both. I have tried
the various recommendations on the Apple site, empting all things Apple
from the system and reinstalling all of it.

When I attach my iPad to my laptop, it sees it as a digital camera. For a
moment, anyway. Then I get a blue screen with a Stop error code. Always
the same. 0x00000070. Computer reboots and wants to check my hard drive.
Any thoughts, suggestions? I have had one brief moment when iTunes
actually started and the laptop recognized the iPad but that lasted only a
couple of moments. I don't know what error codes are, especially this one
so any info would be very welcome......

--
Neil Humphrey

Well reinstalled it all and nothing but the same result. I did get to read
the error finally. I was off by a bit. But it doesn't seem anymore helpful.

Say it could be a Drive problem, or a Driver problem, or a Bios problem. The
error code is actually 0X0000007E. I thought it was a 0 on the end but guess
not. Then it's followed by four more equally strange numbers all beginning
with 0X......In brackets.......
I guess I will have to keep trying. It attaches to a desktop machine I have
and works fine on there. But I need it to work with my laptop.....

Thanks again all for looking....

Neil


"Neil Humphrey" wrote in message
...
Hello,

I know talking Ipad could be a dirty topic here, but.......
I am having issues with my Windows XP laptop not wanting to work with my
new iPad. I kind of hoped they would get along. I need both. I have tried
the various recommendations on the Apple site, empting all things Apple
from the system and reinstalling all of it.

When I attach my iPad to my laptop, it sees it as a digital camera. For a
moment, anyway. Then I get a blue screen with a Stop error code. Always
the same. 0x00000070. Computer reboots and wants to check my hard drive.
Any thoughts, suggestions? I have had one brief moment when iTunes
actually started and the laptop recognized the iPad but that lasted only a
couple of moments. I don't know what error codes are, especially this one
so any info would be very welcome......

--
Neil Humphrey

Does your desktop run Windows XP too? Do both computers have the same level
of service pack (SP3)? Have you tried different USB ports on your laptop?

"Neil Humphrey" wrote in message
...
Well reinstalled it all and nothing but the same result. I did get to read
the error finally. I was off by a bit. But it doesn't seem anymore
helpful.

Say it could be a Drive problem, or a Driver problem, or a Bios problem.
The error code is actually 0X0000007E. I thought it was a 0 on the end but
guess not. Then it's followed by four more equally strange numbers all
beginning with 0X......In brackets.......
I guess I will have to keep trying. It attaches to a desktop machine I
have and works fine on there. But I need it to work with my laptop.....

Thanks again all for looking....

Neil


"Neil Humphrey" wrote in message
...
Hello,

I know talking Ipad could be a dirty topic here, but.......
I am having issues with my Windows XP laptop not wanting to work with my
new iPad. I kind of hoped they would get along. I need both. I have tried
the various recommendations on the Apple site, empting all things Apple
from the system and reinstalling all of it.

When I attach my iPad to my laptop, it sees it as a digital camera. For a
moment, anyway. Then I get a blue screen with a Stop error code. Always
the same. 0x00000070. Computer reboots and wants to check my hard drive.
Any thoughts, suggestions? I have had one brief moment when iTunes
actually started and the laptop recognized the iPad but that lasted only
a couple of moments. I don't know what error codes are, especially this
one so any info would be very welcome......

--
Neil Humphrey

Does your desktop run Windows XP too? Do both computers have the same level
of service pack (SP3)? Have you tried different USB ports on your laptop?

"Neil Humphrey" wrote in message
...
Well reinstalled it all and nothing but the same result. I did get to read
the error finally. I was off by a bit. But it doesn't seem anymore
helpful.

Say it could be a Drive problem, or a Driver problem, or a Bios problem.
The error code is actually 0X0000007E. I thought it was a 0 on the end but
guess not. Then it's followed by four more equally strange numbers all
beginning with 0X......In brackets.......
I guess I will have to keep trying. It attaches to a desktop machine I
have and works fine on there. But I need it to work with my laptop.....

Thanks again all for looking....

Neil


"Neil Humphrey" wrote in message
...
Hello,

I know talking Ipad could be a dirty topic here, but.......
I am having issues with my Windows XP laptop not wanting to work with my
new iPad. I kind of hoped they would get along. I need both. I have tried
the various recommendations on the Apple site, empting all things Apple
from the system and reinstalling all of it.

When I attach my iPad to my laptop, it sees it as a digital camera. For a
moment, anyway. Then I get a blue screen with a Stop error code. Always
the same. 0x00000070. Computer reboots and wants to check my hard drive.
Any thoughts, suggestions? I have had one brief moment when iTunes
actually started and the laptop recognized the iPad but that lasted only
a couple of moments. I don't know what error codes are, especially this
one so any info would be very welcome......

--
Neil Humphrey

I'll bother if I want, HoopleHead.

"Neil Humphrey" wrote in message
...
Hey, Thanks for your help......

I guess you don't actually read posts, you just comment on them. I have
been to Apple and this is a Windows issue.....
Hence why I am here. Now I really appreciate it when I get help from
others with more knowledge than I, but if that is all you have to
contribute, please don't bother......

N


"Klaatu Barada Nikto" wrote in message
...

"Neil Humphrey" wrote in message
...
I have checked apple discussions and had no luck. As it's a Windows
problem, when I plug in an Apple, I figured I would try here........
There is no iPad forum in the Microsoft groups that I can find......

Of course not. Itunes and Ipad forums are hosted by Apple. If you had any
sense, you'd Google for them.


--
Neil Humphrey



"Klaatu Barada Nikto" wrote in message
...
Ask in the IPAD forum. Itunes also has a forum.

"Neil Humphrey" wrote in message
...
Hello,

I know talking Ipad could be a dirty topic here, but.......
I am having issues with my Windows XP laptop not wanting to work with
my new iPad. I kind of hoped they would get along. I need both. I have
tried the various recommendations on the Apple site, empting all
things Apple from the system and reinstalling all of it.

When I attach my iPad to my laptop, it sees it as a digital camera.
For a moment, anyway. Then I get a blue screen with a Stop error code.
Always the same. 0x00000070. Computer reboots and wants to check my
hard drive. Any thoughts, suggestions? I have had one brief moment
when iTunes actually started and the laptop recognized the iPad but
that lasted only a couple of moments. I don't know what error codes
are, especially this one so any info would be very welcome......

--
Neil Humphrey

I'll bother if I want, HoopleHead.

"Neil Humphrey" wrote in message
...
Hey, Thanks for your help......

I guess you don't actually read posts, you just comment on them. I have
been to Apple and this is a Windows issue.....
Hence why I am here. Now I really appreciate it when I get help from
others with more knowledge than I, but if that is all you have to
contribute, please don't bother......

N


"Klaatu Barada Nikto" wrote in message
...

"Neil Humphrey" wrote in message
...
I have checked apple discussions and had no luck. As it's a Windows
problem, when I plug in an Apple, I figured I would try here........
There is no iPad forum in the Microsoft groups that I can find......

Of course not. Itunes and Ipad forums are hosted by Apple. If you had any
sense, you'd Google for them.


--
Neil Humphrey



"Klaatu Barada Nikto" wrote in message
...
Ask in the IPAD forum. Itunes also has a forum.

"Neil Humphrey" wrote in message
...
Hello,

I know talking Ipad could be a dirty topic here, but.......
I am having issues with my Windows XP laptop not wanting to work with
my new iPad. I kind of hoped they would get along. I need both. I have
tried the various recommendations on the Apple site, empting all
things Apple from the system and reinstalling all of it.

When I attach my iPad to my laptop, it sees it as a digital camera.
For a moment, anyway. Then I get a blue screen with a Stop error code.
Always the same. 0x00000070. Computer reboots and wants to check my
hard drive. Any thoughts, suggestions? I have had one brief moment
when iTunes actually started and the laptop recognized the iPad but
that lasted only a couple of moments. I don't know what error codes
are, especially this one so any info would be very welcome......

--
Neil Humphrey

Neil Humphrey wrote:
Well reinstalled it all and nothing but the same result. I did get to read
the error finally. I was off by a bit. But it doesn't seem anymore helpful.

Say it could be a Drive problem, or a Driver problem, or a Bios problem. The
error code is actually 0X0000007E. I thought it was a 0 on the end but guess
not. Then it's followed by four more equally strange numbers all beginning
with 0X......In brackets.......
I guess I will have to keep trying. It attaches to a desktop machine I have
and works fine on there. But I need it to work with my laptop.....

Thanks again all for looking....

Neil

So what you're experiencing is a BSOD (blue screen of death), but it
isn't staying put on the screen long enough to read. Your WinXP computer
is rebooting immediately. You can change that behavior, so the BSOD stays
on the screen long enough to copy down all the numbers. After you've copied
the numbers you can restart. Since you're crashing the system without a
clean shutdown, there is a good chance CHKDSK is going to run, to fix the
file system. (And if CHKDSK isn't running, to be safe I'd probably run
it without a detailed check, just to be sure.)

Control Panels:System:Advanced:Startup and Recovery:untick Automatically restart

If you're lucky, there will be a driver name in the error message. It might
look like this for example. In this case "ati3d2ag" is an ATI video card driver
file name. See if you can post this info. The first numbers are likely to be
the most valuable ones, as well as any driver names or OS file names you can find.

Stop : 0X0000007E (0Xc0000005, 0Xxxxxxxxx, 0Xxxxxxxxx, 0X00000000) ati3d2ag.dll
BFA86515 base at BFA17000, date stamp 3f7a342b

You can read up on STOP errors here, in particular the section on "7E". With
some luck, there will be a Microsoft article link, which provides decoding of the
error fields in the brackets. And no, reading this is not going to even hint
about where the problem lies. You seldom get an instant answer, based on looking
at the error numbers.

http://aumha.org/a/stop.htm

The fact the device shows up as a digital camera, is also interesting. You'd think,
if a special driver was in place, the device would be recognized by its Plug and Play
information.

Normally, you can use a program like UVCView, to review the USB config space
data presented by the device. Then, extracting the VEN/DEV or VID/PID values,
match that to the driver used for your device, to learn more about how the
system is handling the new hardware when it makes its appearance.

Some devices use standard class codes, as well as the VID/PID. A digital camera,
for example, might use a USB Video Class (UVC) class code, saying it follows
a particular standard for digital cameras. The Microsoft OS, if no custom
driver package was installed, might then use the built-in UVC driver.
If the device wasn't actually UVC, then all hell might break loose.
Accurate Plug and Play information is important, to proper system function.

If a device is completely non-standard, then it might use an "empty"
class code of sorts, and that might help the OS eventually match the
device to its own custom driver. It would help if the custom driver
was installed in the OS, *before* the device is plugged in. Once a device
is plugged in, there can be a "memory" of what happened, stored in the
WinXP registry. A procedure for clearing the registry is described here,
for USB, while the computer is booted in Safe Mode (press F8 at startup).

http://www.usbman.com/Guides/Cleanup...afe%20Mode.htm

But if the software provided by Apple is just stupid, you might experience
the same crash, the next time the device is plugged in. And even if you've
cleaned out all USB related stuff first.

Now, if the device didn't crash the computer, we could get out UVCView and
start analyzing what the IPad is saying about itself. It could be USB Mass
Storage, MTP, a composite device with camera and audio, it could be quite
complex. But to use this, you're going to have to be successful at stopping
the system crash first, as otherwise, you'll never get to run this with the
iPad plugged in.

*******
ftp://ftp.efo.ru/pub/ftdichip/Utilities/UVCView.x86.exe
http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/USB...VCView.x86.exe

File size is 167,232 bytes.
MD5sum is 93244d84d79314898e62d21cecc4ca5e

This is a picture of what the UVCView info looks like.

http://www.die.de/blog/content/binary/usbview.png

Some information on the parameters seen in UVCView.

http://www.beyondlogic.org/usbnutshell/usb5.htm

You should be able to get VID/PID info from a plugged
in device. That program will also help you determine whether
the device is alive at all or not.
*******

An alternative way to start IPad analysis, would be to boot a Linux
LiveCD and use "lsusb" to get some info on the device. I don't see
a reason to go that far, just yet.

OK, while I was writing this, I was downloading the latest ITunes.
I have a WinXP 32 bit OS, which the Apple web site automatically
detected when I connected with my web browser. Using 7-ZIP, I took
a look inside the 74,840,872 byte download.

AppleApplicationSupport.msi
AppleMobileDeviceSupport.msi ---
AppleSoftwareUpdate.msi
Bonjour.msi
ITunes.msi
QuickTime.msi
SetupAdmin.exe

Inside AppleMobileDeviceSupport.msi , I can find AppleMobileDeviceSupport.cab .
And inside there, I can find "usbaapl.inf".

Now, if I go here, I can get the VID and PID values for iPad.
This is an informal registry of USB devices, used by the Linux
community.

http://www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids

05ac Apple, Inc.
129a iPad

The matching entry in usbaapl.inf is

; iPhone (Mobile Device)

%iPhone.DeviceDesc%=USBAAPL.Dev, USB\VID_05ac&PID_129a

I suspect the device is supported by this -

[USBAAPL.AddService]
DisplayName = %USBAAPL.SvcDesc%
ServiceType = 1 ; SERVICE_KERNEL_DRIVER
StartType = 3 ; SERVICE_DEMAND_START
ErrorControl = 1 ; SERVICE_ERROR_NORMAL
ServiceBinary = %10%\System32\Drivers\usbaapl.sys
LoadOrderGroup = Base

Perhaps someone else here, can suggest where you can verify this
is set up.

A log of an attempt to install the device, would normally be
recorded in C:\WINDOWS\setupapi.log and down near the end of that
file, you'd look for VID_05ac&PID_129a . If WinXP "stayed up"
long enough to finish device recognition and installation, there
will be info in setupapi.log.

That's not an answer, but it is a starting point, on how
you start debugging.

Paul



"Neil Humphrey" wrote in message
...
Hello,

I know talking Ipad could be a dirty topic here, but.......
I am having issues with my Windows XP laptop not wanting to work with my
new iPad. I kind of hoped they would get along. I need both. I have tried
the various recommendations on the Apple site, empting all things Apple
from the system and reinstalling all of it.

When I attach my iPad to my laptop, it sees it as a digital camera. For a
moment, anyway. Then I get a blue screen with a Stop error code. Always
the same. 0x00000070. Computer reboots and wants to check my hard drive.
Any thoughts, suggestions? I have had one brief moment when iTunes
actually started and the laptop recognized the iPad but that lasted only a
couple of moments. I don't know what error codes are, especially this one
so any info would be very welcome......

--
Neil Humphrey

Neil Humphrey wrote:
Well reinstalled it all and nothing but the same result. I did get to read
the error finally. I was off by a bit. But it doesn't seem anymore helpful.

Say it could be a Drive problem, or a Driver problem, or a Bios problem. The
error code is actually 0X0000007E. I thought it was a 0 on the end but guess
not. Then it's followed by four more equally strange numbers all beginning
with 0X......In brackets.......
I guess I will have to keep trying. It attaches to a desktop machine I have
and works fine on there. But I need it to work with my laptop.....

Thanks again all for looking....

Neil

So what you're experiencing is a BSOD (blue screen of death), but it
isn't staying put on the screen long enough to read. Your WinXP computer
is rebooting immediately. You can change that behavior, so the BSOD stays
on the screen long enough to copy down all the numbers. After you've copied
the numbers you can restart. Since you're crashing the system without a
clean shutdown, there is a good chance CHKDSK is going to run, to fix the
file system. (And if CHKDSK isn't running, to be safe I'd probably run
it without a detailed check, just to be sure.)

Control Panels:System:Advanced:Startup and Recovery:untick Automatically restart

If you're lucky, there will be a driver name in the error message. It might
look like this for example. In this case "ati3d2ag" is an ATI video card driver
file name. See if you can post this info. The first numbers are likely to be
the most valuable ones, as well as any driver names or OS file names you can find.

Stop : 0X0000007E (0Xc0000005, 0Xxxxxxxxx, 0Xxxxxxxxx, 0X00000000) ati3d2ag.dll
BFA86515 base at BFA17000, date stamp 3f7a342b

You can read up on STOP errors here, in particular the section on "7E". With
some luck, there will be a Microsoft article link, which provides decoding of the
error fields in the brackets. And no, reading this is not going to even hint
about where the problem lies. You seldom get an instant answer, based on looking
at the error numbers.

http://aumha.org/a/stop.htm

The fact the device shows up as a digital camera, is also interesting. You'd think,
if a special driver was in place, the device would be recognized by its Plug and Play
information.

Normally, you can use a program like UVCView, to review the USB config space
data presented by the device. Then, extracting the VEN/DEV or VID/PID values,
match that to the driver used for your device, to learn more about how the
system is handling the new hardware when it makes its appearance.

Some devices use standard class codes, as well as the VID/PID. A digital camera,
for example, might use a USB Video Class (UVC) class code, saying it follows
a particular standard for digital cameras. The Microsoft OS, if no custom
driver package was installed, might then use the built-in UVC driver.
If the device wasn't actually UVC, then all hell might break loose.
Accurate Plug and Play information is important, to proper system function.

If a device is completely non-standard, then it might use an "empty"
class code of sorts, and that might help the OS eventually match the
device to its own custom driver. It would help if the custom driver
was installed in the OS, *before* the device is plugged in. Once a device
is plugged in, there can be a "memory" of what happened, stored in the
WinXP registry. A procedure for clearing the registry is described here,
for USB, while the computer is booted in Safe Mode (press F8 at startup).

http://www.usbman.com/Guides/Cleanup...afe%20Mode.htm

But if the software provided by Apple is just stupid, you might experience
the same crash, the next time the device is plugged in. And even if you've
cleaned out all USB related stuff first.

Now, if the device didn't crash the computer, we could get out UVCView and
start analyzing what the IPad is saying about itself. It could be USB Mass
Storage, MTP, a composite device with camera and audio, it could be quite
complex. But to use this, you're going to have to be successful at stopping
the system crash first, as otherwise, you'll never get to run this with the
iPad plugged in.

*******
ftp://ftp.efo.ru/pub/ftdichip/Utilities/UVCView.x86.exe
http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/USB...VCView.x86.exe

File size is 167,232 bytes.
MD5sum is 93244d84d79314898e62d21cecc4ca5e

This is a picture of what the UVCView info looks like.

http://www.die.de/blog/content/binary/usbview.png

Some information on the parameters seen in UVCView.

http://www.beyondlogic.org/usbnutshell/usb5.htm

You should be able to get VID/PID info from a plugged
in device. That program will also help you determine whether
the device is alive at all or not.
*******

An alternative way to start IPad analysis, would be to boot a Linux
LiveCD and use "lsusb" to get some info on the device. I don't see
a reason to go that far, just yet.

OK, while I was writing this, I was downloading the latest ITunes.
I have a WinXP 32 bit OS, which the Apple web site automatically
detected when I connected with my web browser. Using 7-ZIP, I took
a look inside the 74,840,872 byte download.

AppleApplicationSupport.msi
AppleMobileDeviceSupport.msi ---
AppleSoftwareUpdate.msi
Bonjour.msi
ITunes.msi
QuickTime.msi
SetupAdmin.exe

Inside AppleMobileDeviceSupport.msi , I can find AppleMobileDeviceSupport.cab .
And inside there, I can find "usbaapl.inf".

Now, if I go here, I can get the VID and PID values for iPad.
This is an informal registry of USB devices, used by the Linux
community.

http://www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids

05ac Apple, Inc.
129a iPad

The matching entry in usbaapl.inf is

; iPhone (Mobile Device)

%iPhone.DeviceDesc%=USBAAPL.Dev, USB\VID_05ac&PID_129a

I suspect the device is supported by this -

[USBAAPL.AddService]
DisplayName = %USBAAPL.SvcDesc%
ServiceType = 1 ; SERVICE_KERNEL_DRIVER
StartType = 3 ; SERVICE_DEMAND_START
ErrorControl = 1 ; SERVICE_ERROR_NORMAL
ServiceBinary = %10%\System32\Drivers\usbaapl.sys
LoadOrderGroup = Base

Perhaps someone else here, can suggest where you can verify this
is set up.

A log of an attempt to install the device, would normally be
recorded in C:\WINDOWS\setupapi.log and down near the end of that
file, you'd look for VID_05ac&PID_129a . If WinXP "stayed up"
long enough to finish device recognition and installation, there
will be info in setupapi.log.

That's not an answer, but it is a starting point, on how
you start debugging.

Paul



"Neil Humphrey" wrote in message
...
Hello,

I know talking Ipad could be a dirty topic here, but.......
I am having issues with my Windows XP laptop not wanting to work with my
new iPad. I kind of hoped they would get along. I need both. I have tried
the various recommendations on the Apple site, empting all things Apple
from the system and reinstalling all of it.

When I attach my iPad to my laptop, it sees it as a digital camera. For a
moment, anyway. Then I get a blue screen with a Stop error code. Always
the same. 0x00000070. Computer reboots and wants to check my hard drive.
Any thoughts, suggestions? I have had one brief moment when iTunes
actually started and the laptop recognized the iPad but that lasted only a
couple of moments. I don't know what error codes are, especially this one
so any info would be very welcome......

--
Neil Humphrey