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sidebar gadgets appear intermittently. sometimes after a re=start they are
there, other times they are not. Is there a way to make them work EVERY
time?




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sidebar gadgets appear intermittently. sometimes after a re=start they are
there, other times they are not. Is there a way to make them work EVERY
time?

Since Microsoft dropped gadgets quite awhile ago, any updates they make
to Windows do not address compatibility with the old gadgets which do
not get updated themselves.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/gadgets
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microso...iscontinuation

Microsoft even released an "update" whose only purpose was to disable
gadgets. That means users still using gadgets had to deliberately
exclude the update or restore gadgets afterward.

Since gadgets haven't been supported for 3 years and since no other
updates are coded to avoid stepping on the gadgets or to avoid any
conflicts with the old gadgets, their use is not recommended.

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"housetrained" wrote in message ...
sidebar gadgets appear intermittently. sometimes after a re=start they are
there, other times they are not. Is there a way to make them work EVERY
time?




My gadgets have recently started to load intermittently.
I've found that once the desktop is loaded and I wait for
a couple of minutes I can load them by running this command file:

@echo off
taskkill /F /IM sidebar.exe
timeout 2
start "" "C:\Program Files\Windows Sidebar\sidebar.exe"
exit

It's a work-around until a fix is found.

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sidebar gadgets appear intermittently. sometimes after a re=start they are
there, other times they are not. Is there a way to make them work EVERY
time?






I use the same 4 gadgets in Windows Vista and Windows 7.
They a round clock, calendar and two weater gadgets.
In Vista they always appear without problems.
In Windows 7 every now and then they fail to appear.




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sidebar gadgets appear intermittently. sometimes after a re=start they are
there, other times they are not. Is there a way to make them work EVERY
time?






I use the same 4 gadgets in Windows Vista and Windows 7.
They a round clock, calendar and two weater gadgets.
In Vista they always appear without problems.
In Windows 7 every now and then they fail to appear.



Have you got an SSD in the Windows 7 unit ?

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sidebar gadgets appear intermittently. sometimes after a re=start they
are there, other times they are not. Is there a way to make them work
EVERY time?






I use the same 4 gadgets in Windows Vista and Windows 7.
They a round clock, calendar and two weater gadgets.
In Vista they always appear without problems.
In Windows 7 every now and then they fail to appear.



Have you got an SSD in the Windows 7 unit ?





No, I only have old fashioned hard disks.



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On Mon, 27 Oct 2014 08:56:10 -0000, Dave-UK wrote:

"housetrained" wrote in message ...
sidebar gadgets appear intermittently. sometimes after a re=start they are
there, other times they are not. Is there a way to make them work EVERY
time?


My gadgets have recently started to load intermittently.
I've found that once the desktop is loaded and I wait for
a couple of minutes I can load them by running this command file:

@echo off
taskkill /F /IM sidebar.exe
timeout 2
start "" "C:\Program Files\Windows Sidebar\sidebar.exe"
exit

It's a work-around until a fix is found.

I never was aware of 'timeout' - it had somehow stayed under my radar.

All the energy I spent on workarounds was wasted :-)

Thanks.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

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sidebar gadgets appear intermittently. sometimes after a re=start they are
there, other times they are not. Is there a way to make them work EVERY
time?






I use the same 4 gadgets in Windows Vista and Windows 7.
They a round clock, calendar and two weater gadgets.
In Vista they always appear without problems.
In Windows 7 every now and then they fail to appear.



Have you got an SSD in the Windows 7 unit ?



Why would that matter? I have an SSD and gadgets load fine when I want
them to. Sometimes that's thru a reboot and they reload fine, even
remembering position across multi monitor setup.

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sidebar gadgets appear intermittently. sometimes after a re=start
they are there, other times they are not. Is there a way to make them
work EVERY time?






I use the same 4 gadgets in Windows Vista and Windows 7.
They a round clock, calendar and two weater gadgets.
In Vista they always appear without problems.
In Windows 7 every now and then they fail to appear.

In Windows 7 that happened to me occasionally, usually after MS
updates. I moved Gadgets up in loading priority, and have only had it
to happen once in the last few months. I know the security conscious
might worry about this, not knowing what it precedes, but I didn't try
to determine that.
bj

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sidebar gadgets appear intermittently. sometimes after a re=start they are
there, other times they are not. Is there a way to make them work EVERY
time?






I use the same 4 gadgets in Windows Vista and Windows 7.
They a round clock, calendar and two weater gadgets.
In Vista they always appear without problems.
In Windows 7 every now and then they fail to appear.



Have you got an SSD in the Windows 7 unit ?



Why would that matter? I have an SSD and gadgets load fine when I want
them to. Sometimes that's thru a reboot and they reload fine, even
remembering position across multi monitor setup.

One of the theories floating around about this problem is
that there is a race condition regarding sidebar.exe and
some other file or program loading during boot up.
This may be aggravated by the speed of an SSD.

On 10/28/2014 4:43 AM, Dave-UK wrote:

"pjp" wrote in message
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In article om, 1@
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sidebar gadgets appear intermittently. sometimes after a re=start
they are there, other times they are not. Is there a way to make
them work EVERY time?




I use the same 4 gadgets in Windows Vista and Windows 7.
They a round clock, calendar and two weater gadgets.
In Vista they always appear without problems.
In Windows 7 every now and then they fail to appear.

Have you got an SSD in the Windows 7 unit ?



Why would that matter? I have an SSD and gadgets load fine when I
want them to. Sometimes that's thru a reboot and they reload fine,
even remembering position across multi monitor setup.

One of the theories floating around about this problem is
that there is a race condition regarding sidebar.exe and
some other file or program loading during boot up.
This may be aggravated by the speed of an SSD.



I read this some where and I'm sorry but I can't remember where..There
is some technical relationship between the display settings and the
gadgets.

My gadgets that monitor GPU/CPU temps & usage & network activity have
disappearded on me. I have successfully changed the display setting from
medium to small because its the least disruptive and change it back and
the gadgets magically reappear. It's not permanent, but it does fix it,
until the next time they go away. I usually have trouble after doing
updates of some sort.

D

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On 10/28/2014 4:43 AM, Dave-UK wrote:

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sidebar gadgets appear intermittently. sometimes after a re=start
they are there, other times they are not. Is there a way to make
them work EVERY time?




I use the same 4 gadgets in Windows Vista and Windows 7.
They a round clock, calendar and two weater gadgets.
In Vista they always appear without problems.
In Windows 7 every now and then they fail to appear.

Have you got an SSD in the Windows 7 unit ?



Why would that matter? I have an SSD and gadgets load fine when I
want them to. Sometimes that's thru a reboot and they reload fine,
even remembering position across multi monitor setup.

One of the theories floating around about this problem is
that there is a race condition regarding sidebar.exe and
some other file or program loading during boot up.
This may be aggravated by the speed of an SSD.



I read this some where and I'm sorry but I can't remember where..There
is some technical relationship between the display settings and the
gadgets.

My gadgets that monitor GPU/CPU temps & usage & network activity have
disappearded on me. I have successfully changed the display setting from
medium to small because its the least disruptive and change it back and
the gadgets magically reappear. It's not permanent, but it does fix it,
until the next time they go away. I usually have trouble after doing
updates of some sort.

D

My gadgets seem to work ok for a while and then something happens
and they just fail to load. I think I've tried all the fixes on the net and I've
still got this random failure mode.
Today I've been messing about with sidebar.exe and its various
switches but I'm getting nowhere.
Now running the batch file to stop and start sidebar.exe does nothing.
Toggling the right-click Desktop 'View Show Desktop gadgets' method
does not work either.
Only logging out and logging back in works at the moment!

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On 10/28/2014 4:43 AM, Dave-UK wrote:

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sidebar gadgets appear intermittently. sometimes after a re=start
they are there, other times they are not. Is there a way to make
them work EVERY time?




I use the same 4 gadgets in Windows Vista and Windows 7.
They a round clock, calendar and two weater gadgets.
In Vista they always appear without problems.
In Windows 7 every now and then they fail to appear.

Have you got an SSD in the Windows 7 unit ?



Why would that matter? I have an SSD and gadgets load fine when I
want them to. Sometimes that's thru a reboot and they reload fine,
even remembering position across multi monitor setup.

One of the theories floating around about this problem is
that there is a race condition regarding sidebar.exe and
some other file or program loading during boot up.
This may be aggravated by the speed of an SSD.



I read this some where and I'm sorry but I can't remember where..There
is some technical relationship between the display settings and the
gadgets.

My gadgets that monitor GPU/CPU temps & usage & network activity have
disappearded on me. I have successfully changed the display setting from
medium to small because its the least disruptive and change it back and
the gadgets magically reappear. It's not permanent, but it does fix it,
until the next time they go away. I usually have trouble after doing
updates of some sort.

D

My gadgets seem to work ok for a while and then something happens
and they just fail to load. I think I've tried all the fixes on the net and I've
still got this random failure mode.
Today I've been messing about with sidebar.exe and its various
switches but I'm getting nowhere.
Now running the batch file to stop and start sidebar.exe does nothing.
Toggling the right-click Desktop 'View Show Desktop gadgets' method
does not work either.
Only logging out and logging back in works at the moment!



OK, I've decided to give up on Microsoft and have installed 8Gadgetpack (it's free).

http://8gadgetpack.net/

It works fine on Windows 7 and I've also installed it on Windows 10 (Build 9860).
So far, so good!

Dave-UK wrote:

"pjp" wrote in message ...
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sidebar gadgets appear intermittently. sometimes after a re=start they are
there, other times they are not. Is there a way to make them work EVERY
time?






I use the same 4 gadgets in Windows Vista and Windows 7.
They a round clock, calendar and two weater gadgets.
In Vista they always appear without problems.
In Windows 7 every now and then they fail to appear.



Have you got an SSD in the Windows 7 unit ?



Why would that matter? I have an SSD and gadgets load fine when I want
them to. Sometimes that's thru a reboot and they reload fine, even
remembering position across multi monitor setup.

One of the theories floating around about this problem is
that there is a race condition regarding sidebar.exe and
some other file or program loading during boot up.
This may be aggravated by the speed of an SSD.

If true, loading sidebar.exe at a later time should work. If you wait
for Windows to load, and after you login and wait for Windows to calm
(get done loading your startup programs), does sidebar.exe load okay
then? If so, you could use a utility that remove the startup item from
its normal location and uses its own to load the program at a later time
by a delay you configure.

I haven't bothered into looking at such utilities except for one which
happened to have this feature but was trialed as a security progrgam:
WinPatrol (free). It has a feature that you can specify a delay for a
startup program. I quit using WinPatrol because eventually it would
fail to issue alerts about the changes it was supposed to monitor, and
the author never addressed that issue in several subsequent versions so
I quit using it (that was almost 2 years ago so I might trial it again).
However, if you only want to use it to delay a startup program then that
works function in WinPatrol works fine.