Rules about copies of XP?

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On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 23:19:19 -0500, kurttrail wrote:

I explain myself in minute detail, with quotes and links

Any your explanations are only your opinion of what you think you've read.
Others read the same material and still don't agree, so it's still just an
opinion.


Define (the) "Others" who read the same material.

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Leythos wrote:
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 15:11:17 -0500, Tom wrote:


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news On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 11:50:11 -0500, kurttrail wrote:

Because I make too much sense to just ignore me.

So did many others that lead people down the wrong path.

You sound like Microsoft Jesus!

And you sound like Kurt

I would have combined it into one word, and I wouldn't compare
you to Jesus. He was a cool dude.

Well, I don't know if he was cool, unless you believe (all good)
in what was written about him. To me, he was no more than a
revolutionary changing up the belief systems of Judaism back then,
which then resulted in an offshoot of Judaism (which was greatly
influenced by Zoroastrianism). If all the words attributed to him
are true, of which some of those words are cruel, I wouldn't say
he was all that cool.

Most of the cruel words in the New Testament are the authors
especially Saul of Tarsus, not his.

Not to let this go to much further: but weren't all the words of
Jesus written by authors, and not Jesus himself.

He spoke them they wrote it down afterwards.

There are words Jesus
(supposedly) said (as quoted in the gospels of Luke and Matthew)
that are fairly brutal. But overall, his words and thoughts of
people for people in general are very kind.

Yeah, just like with the words of the Buddha, it was preverted by his
followers. But both of their messages shine through the perversion
of those that came after them.

But, what were his real words, since the only ones written of him,
were by others, and not him? Since those are the only words that are
mentioned, we can only use the interpretation of what he supposedly
said from the words of others. I guess, only Jesus really knows :-)


One reads studies, and makes that decision for themselves. If you take a
red-letter Bible, and extract all the words attributed to him, the you can
see his teachings as a whole, and distinguish what is consistent with his
main message, and that which is totally out of character.

snipped

Gandhi was one of my heros!

Mine too, along with Martin Luther King Jr. Another man with flaws.


BTW, what do you think Jesus, MLK, and Gandhi would think of the Windows
EULA? *-)!

I come to the newsgroups to try to learn something but instead like in
threads like this get not what I came here for.
What I see is a lot of smartassed comments that are completely off
topic and a ****ing match to see who can post the most verbose
discourse of utter nonsense.
Yes I have filtered out Kurt's comments but I did so to cut down on
the lengthy threads. I do get to read all the replies from everyone
else
I have been coming to the newsgroups for years to help myself and
others when I can.
You make too many assumptions.
On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 15:10:31 -0500, "Tom" wrote:

And like many others that make these kind of comments, you are just one in
another of the never ending stream of MS drones that pop in and out of the
newgroups. You come in, make a simplistic unhelpful comment, then disappear
when someone replies to you. I wonder why you would killfile, since this is
no more than a ****ty cameo appearance by you!

"Semper" wrote in message
.. .
I agree totally with Jupiter and others
kurttrail is a troll of the worst kind and I have filtered him out
other people need to do the same.
Or stop responding to his comments
He seeks attention why give it to him?

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 15:31:50 -0700, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"
wrote:

"kurttrail"

It's too bad that you don't decipher what is a smart-assed comment, and real
dialogue.The reason i said what I did to you was your respone to kurt (or to
anyone that tries to make a valid point) as him being a troll, was simly a
sycophantic reply on your part by my observation. I say this considering how
the term troll is used as someone who name calls or flames, but you
certainly didn't apply that to the ones (attempting to) disputing kurt's
post, by calling him names, just like a troll does.


"Semper" wrote in message
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I come to the newsgroups to try to learn something but instead like in
threads like this get not what I came here for.
What I see is a lot of smartassed comments that are completely off
topic and a ****ing match to see who can post the most verbose
discourse of utter nonsense.
Yes I have filtered out Kurt's comments but I did so to cut down on
the lengthy threads. I do get to read all the replies from everyone
else
I have been coming to the newsgroups for years to help myself and
others when I can.
You make too many assumptions.
On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 15:10:31 -0500, "Tom" wrote:

And like many others that make these kind of comments, you are just one in
another of the never ending stream of MS drones that pop in and out of the
newgroups. You come in, make a simplistic unhelpful comment, then
disappear
when someone replies to you. I wonder why you would killfile, since this
is
no more than a ****ty cameo appearance by you!

"Semper" wrote in message
. ..
I agree totally with Jupiter and others
kurttrail is a troll of the worst kind and I have filtered him out
other people need to do the same.
Or stop responding to his comments
He seeks attention why give it to him?

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 15:31:50 -0700, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"
wrote:

"kurttrail"

Leythos wrote:
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 23:38:05 -0500, kurttrail wrote:

I use legal precedents to back up my interpretation of "fair use."
And it doesn't matter that you or anybody else disagrees with it.
It is the copyright owner that has to disagree with it, and get a
court to agree with them, before my interpretation of "fair use" is
considered legally invalid.

No, it's just your opinion,

No, it is a fact, as of right now. What don't you understand about
that? That is not my opinion, it is a FACT. It is the way Copyright
Law works. And you have yet to show ONE
thing that disputes this fact. All you have is your lame reply that it
is just an opinion. Be a man, and prove it.

But alas you are not a man, and cannot do anything other than rely on
meaningless contradiction.

I love it!

and following your opinion could get
people into trouble if MS were to challenge it in court.

MS hasn't in over a dozen years. What makes you think they would after
all this time? MS lack of due diligence would be held against them.

Sure, if MS
never challenges it in court, then people can continue to pirate
personal use copies of the MS products, but, that doesn't make it
legal.

Prove it is piracy. But you can't. No one has ever been charge, let
alone proven to have pirated software, following my interpretation of
"fair use."

FUD and meaningless contradiction is all you have. Sounds like a troll
to me. ;-)

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Leythos wrote:
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 15:11:17 -0500, Tom wrote:


"Leythos" wrote in message
news On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 11:50:11 -0500, kurttrail wrote:

Because I make too much sense to just ignore me.

So did many others that lead people down the wrong path.

You sound like Microsoft Jesus!

And you sound like Kurt

I would have combined it into one word, and I wouldn't compare
you to Jesus. He was a cool dude.

Well, I don't know if he was cool, unless you believe (all good)
in what was written about him. To me, he was no more than a
revolutionary changing up the belief systems of Judaism back
then, which then resulted in an offshoot of Judaism (which was
greatly influenced by Zoroastrianism). If all the words
attributed to him are true, of which some of those words are
cruel, I wouldn't say he was all that cool.

Most of the cruel words in the New Testament are the authors
especially Saul of Tarsus, not his.

Not to let this go to much further: but weren't all the words of
Jesus written by authors, and not Jesus himself.

He spoke them they wrote it down afterwards.

There are words Jesus
(supposedly) said (as quoted in the gospels of Luke and Matthew)
that are fairly brutal. But overall, his words and thoughts of
people for people in general are very kind.

Yeah, just like with the words of the Buddha, it was preverted by
his followers. But both of their messages shine through the
perversion of those that came after them.

But, what were his real words, since the only ones written of him,
were by others, and not him? Since those are the only words that are
mentioned, we can only use the interpretation of what he supposedly
said from the words of others. I guess, only Jesus really knows :-)


One reads studies, and makes that decision for themselves. If you
take a red-letter Bible, and extract all the words attributed to
him, the you can see his teachings as a whole, and distinguish what
is consistent with his main message, and that which is totally out
of character.
snipped

Gandhi was one of my heros!

Mine too, along with Martin Luther King Jr. Another man with flaws.


BTW, what do you think Jesus, MLK, and Gandhi would think of the
Windows EULA? *-)!

I think they would of been more concern about all the people in the
world being left behind by the technological revelution.

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Semper respectfully replied ;-)
I agree totally with Jupiter and others
kurttrail is a troll of the worst kind and I have filtered him out
other people need to do the same.
Or stop responding to his comments
He seeks attention why give it to him?

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 15:31:50 -0700, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"
wrote:

"kurttrail"

You as well as others that accuse Kurt of being a troll are just
wrong, Kurt is not a troll and does not fit any definition of the
actions a troll is defined by. Plus calling Kurt a troll is about the
equiIivent of saying his mother wears army boots, Would you be
concerned if you called yourself a troll? LOL

Didn't I kinda do that? ;-)

He is disruptive, annoying, thought provoking, opinionated, perverse,
rude, might have a beard,

I have a beard, but I shave it off on rare occasions.

[denies he hates]but hates Bush,

I don't hate Bush. I think he hypocrite to his beliefs, has surrounded
himself with some people who are basically anti-individual rights, and
anti-democratic, (not the party) and is basically too stupid and lazy to
be worthy of sitting in the most powerful office in the world. But I
don't hate him.

has a
warped sense of humor

LOL!

and in my unsubstantiated opinion is going
through a midlife crisis or a rare case of male menopause. But he is
not a Troll.

Naw. I had my mid-life crisis in my mid thirties, I really don't want
to live much past my sixties, and live too long with a deteriating body
and mind.

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I didn't know he had a beard. I don't like beards.

I don't like shaving. I have very sensitive skin, and I'm not a
masochist.

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"kurttrail" wrote


Naw. I had my mid-life crisis in my mid thirties, I really don't want to
live much past my sixties, and live too long with a deteriating body and
mind.

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Kurt

As someone nearing 60, I suggest you may change your mind about that in a
few years. Or, as my father who will turn 80 this year said, "back when I
thought 65 was old".

Alias, a young 58 year old.

Leythos wrote:
On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 09:03:14 -0500, Tom wrote:

"Leythos" wrote in message
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On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 23:19:19 -0500, kurttrail wrote:

I explain myself in minute detail, with quotes and links

Any your explanations are only your opinion of what you think
you've read. Others read the same material and still don't agree,
so it's still just an opinion.


Define (the) "Others" who read the same material.

Why do you have a comprehension problem? "Others" means, in simple
terms, different people, not ones self.

Going around and speaking for the voices in your head.

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Alias wrote:
"kurttrail" wrote


Naw. I had my mid-life crisis in my mid thirties, I really don't
want to live much past my sixties, and live too long with a
deteriating body and mind.

--
Peace!
Kurt

As someone nearing 60, I suggest you may change your mind about that
in a few years. Or, as my father who will turn 80 this year said,
"back when I thought 65 was old".

Alias, a young 58 year old.

Yeah, I may just change my opinion as I come closer to my sixties,
however, I'd rather go out quickly, than the slow lingering death of my
grandparents.

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"Leythos" wrote in message
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On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 09:03:14 -0500, Tom wrote:

"Leythos" wrote in message
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On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 23:19:19 -0500, kurttrail wrote:

I explain myself in minute detail, with quotes and links

Any your explanations are only your opinion of what you think you've
read.
Others read the same material and still don't agree, so it's still just
an
opinion.


Define (the) "Others" who read the same material.

Why do you have a comprehension problem? "Others" means, in simple terms,
different people, not ones self.

LOL, just another in avoiding answering things straight up! By "Others" who
are they, quote them, as you make it seem that there is a plethora of
"others"?

But anyhow, your copout that I have a comprehension problem, is just another
in the "plethora" of examples you have given, on how you avoid answering and
addressing real questions and issues, by making claims about "one's
opinion", or are you going to say that this is just "my opinion"?

"kurttrail" wrote
Alias wrote:
"kurttrail" wrote


Naw. I had my mid-life crisis in my mid thirties, I really don't
want to live much past my sixties, and live too long with a
deteriating body and mind.

--
Peace!
Kurt

As someone nearing 60, I suggest you may change your mind about that
in a few years. Or, as my father who will turn 80 this year said,
"back when I thought 65 was old".

Alias, a young 58 year old.

Yeah, I may just change my opinion as I come closer to my sixties,
however, I'd rather go out quickly, than the slow lingering death of my
grandparents.

--
Peace!
Kurt

The way modern medicine is going, you may not have to die at all!

Alias

Leythos wrote:
On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 09:55:03 -0500, kurttrail wrote:

FUD and meaningless contradiction is all you have.

You too.

I can support my interpretation with quotes links and legal precedent.
All you have is your own FUD and meaningless contradiction.

Show one quote with a link, that shows that the individual must sue the
copyright owner in order to validify their interpretation of "fair use"
first.

This is your challenge, put up, and show you are a man, or come back
with a meaningless contradiction yet again and show everyone that you
are just a blathering idiot.

You won't be able to, since it would be a lie. It is the copyright
owner that must sue and win in order to legally invalidate someone
else's interpretation of "fair use." That is the facts on how "fair
use" works, and it is not my opinion, if it were, than you would be able
to contradict me with a hell of a lot more than just saying it just my
opinion.

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Alias wrote:
"kurttrail" wrote
Alias wrote:
"kurttrail" wrote

Naw. I had my mid-life crisis in my mid thirties, I really don't
want to live much past my sixties, and live too long with a
deteriating body and mind.

As someone nearing 60, I suggest you may change your mind about that
in a few years. Or, as my father who will turn 80 this year said,
"back when I thought 65 was old".

Alias, a young 58 year old.

Yeah, I may just change my opinion as I come closer to my sixties,
however, I'd rather go out quickly, than the slow lingering death of
my grandparents.

The way modern medicine is going, you may not have to die at all!

Immortality doesn't have much appeal for me. I much prefer the concept
of attaining Nirvana, than that of eternal life, either in this life or
the next.

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