Sidewinder FF2 in Windows XP

I have assembled a new computer where I have installed a
Sidewinder FF2 joystick. As I had read somewhere that the
drivers supplied with the joystick would not work under
XP, I accepted the drivers installed by XP. There is
however a problem with the force changing during the use
of the joystick. This problem is known to Microsoft and
reported in article 321127.
However in article 302607 it is explained how the patch
for the VIA chipset should be installed. As I have a VIA
chipset, my questions a

a) Can I install the patch for the VIA chipset with the XP
drivers installed?

b) Should I install the drivers I received with the
joystick and then install the patch?

I hope someone can help.

Best Regards,

Domingos

The drivers for the device are already in the OS. They are newer than the
drivers on the CD, and Digitally signed. If you have changed the default
handleing of Unsigned drivers then installing the disk will give you older
drivers. So...

a) Yes

b) If you want use of the keymapping software for the device then Yes. If
you are still setup to use Signed drivers when present instead of unsigned
drivers you will be fine installing the CD. It will just add the keymapping
software and ignore the unsigned driver.

If that doesn't help let me know.

--
Joshua Smith
DirectInput Test Lab

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"Domingos Nunes" wrote in message
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I have assembled a new computer where I have installed a
Sidewinder FF2 joystick. As I had read somewhere that the
drivers supplied with the joystick would not work under
XP, I accepted the drivers installed by XP. There is
however a problem with the force changing during the use
of the joystick. This problem is known to Microsoft and
reported in article 321127.
However in article 302607 it is explained how the patch
for the VIA chipset should be installed. As I have a VIA
chipset, my questions a

a) Can I install the patch for the VIA chipset with the XP
drivers installed?

b) Should I install the drivers I received with the
joystick and then install the patch?

I hope someone can help.

Best Regards,

Domingos

Thank you for your help. I have uninstalled the drivers
that came with the joystick and I allowed the installation
of the XP drivers. The joystick is now operating normally.
However I have no means of adjusting the forces and
testing them, as I could before. Is there any eay of doing
it?

Regards,

Domingos

-----Original Message-----
The drivers for the device are already in the OS. They
are newer than the
drivers on the CD, and Digitally signed. If you have
changed the default
handleing of Unsigned drivers then installing the disk
will give you older
drivers. So...

a) Yes

b) If you want use of the keymapping software for the
device then Yes. If
you are still setup to use Signed drivers when present
instead of unsigned
drivers you will be fine installing the CD. It will just
add the keymapping
software and ignore the unsigned driver.

If that doesn't help let me know.

--
Joshua Smith
DirectInput Test Lab

-----
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights


"Domingos Nunes" wrote in
message
...
I have assembled a new computer where I have installed a
Sidewinder FF2 joystick. As I had read somewhere that
the
drivers supplied with the joystick would not work under
XP, I accepted the drivers installed by XP. There is
however a problem with the force changing during the use
of the joystick. This problem is known to Microsoft and
reported in article 321127.
However in article 302607 it is explained how the patch
for the VIA chipset should be installed. As I have a VIA
chipset, my questions a

a) Can I install the patch for the VIA chipset with the
XP
drivers installed?

b) Should I install the drivers I received with the
joystick and then install the patch?

I hope someone can help.

Best Regards,

Domingos


.

You will have to reinstall the software that came with the device. It is
what contains the custom property sheet for the Gaming Options control panel
that allows you to do the Keymapping and force manipulation. Lets try the
following:

1. Right Click "My Computer" and choose "Properties".
2. Click the Hardware tab.
3. In the "Device Manager" section click "Driver Signing".
4. Check to see that under the "What action do you want Windows to take?"
section it is not set to "Ignore..."
5. If it is not set to "Ignore.." then it is OK to run the Sidewinder Setup
CD. It will add unsigned drivers to your system but shouldn't use them as
there are better Signed drivers present. This will give you back the
Property sheet in Gaming Options that allows for force manipulation.

Let me know if this doesn't work.

--
Joshua Smith
DirectInput Test Lab

-----
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights


"Domingos Nunes" wrote in message
...

Thank you for your help. I have uninstalled the drivers
that came with the joystick and I allowed the installation
of the XP drivers. The joystick is now operating normally.
However I have no means of adjusting the forces and
testing them, as I could before. Is there any eay of doing
it?

Regards,

Domingos

-----Original Message-----
The drivers for the device are already in the OS. They
are newer than the
drivers on the CD, and Digitally signed. If you have
changed the default
handleing of Unsigned drivers then installing the disk
will give you older
drivers. So...

a) Yes

b) If you want use of the keymapping software for the
device then Yes. If
you are still setup to use Signed drivers when present
instead of unsigned
drivers you will be fine installing the CD. It will just
add the keymapping
software and ignore the unsigned driver.

If that doesn't help let me know.

--
Joshua Smith
DirectInput Test Lab

-----
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights


"Domingos Nunes" wrote in
message
...
I have assembled a new computer where I have installed a
Sidewinder FF2 joystick. As I had read somewhere that
the
drivers supplied with the joystick would not work under
XP, I accepted the drivers installed by XP. There is
however a problem with the force changing during the use
of the joystick. This problem is known to Microsoft and
reported in article 321127.
However in article 302607 it is explained how the patch
for the VIA chipset should be installed. As I have a VIA
chipset, my questions a

a) Can I install the patch for the VIA chipset with the
XP
drivers installed?

b) Should I install the drivers I received with the
joystick and then install the patch?

I hope someone can help.

Best Regards,

Domingos


.

Thank you. I will try this and then I will let you know
the result.

Best Regards,

Domingos

-----Original Message-----
You will have to reinstall the software that came with
the device. It is
what contains the custom property sheet for the Gaming
Options control panel
that allows you to do the Keymapping and force
manipulation. Lets try the
following:

1. Right Click "My Computer" and choose "Properties".
2. Click the Hardware tab.
3. In the "Device Manager" section click "Driver Signing".
4. Check to see that under the "What action do you want
Windows to take?"
section it is not set to "Ignore..."
5. If it is not set to "Ignore.." then it is OK to run
the Sidewinder Setup
CD. It will add unsigned drivers to your system but
shouldn't use them as
there are better Signed drivers present. This will give
you back the
Property sheet in Gaming Options that allows for force
manipulation.

Let me know if this doesn't work.

--
Joshua Smith
DirectInput Test Lab

-----
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights


"Domingos Nunes" wrote in
message
...

Thank you for your help. I have uninstalled the drivers
that came with the joystick and I allowed the
installation
of the XP drivers. The joystick is now operating
normally.
However I have no means of adjusting the forces and
testing them, as I could before. Is there any eay of
doing
it?

Regards,

Domingos

-----Original Message-----
The drivers for the device are already in the OS. They
are newer than the
drivers on the CD, and Digitally signed. If you have
changed the default
handleing of Unsigned drivers then installing the disk
will give you older
drivers. So...

a) Yes

b) If you want use of the keymapping software for the
device then Yes. If
you are still setup to use Signed drivers when present
instead of unsigned
drivers you will be fine installing the CD. It will
just
add the keymapping
software and ignore the unsigned driver.

If that doesn't help let me know.

--
Joshua Smith
DirectInput Test Lab

-----
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
confers no rights


"Domingos Nunes" wrote in
message
...
I have assembled a new computer where I have
installed a
Sidewinder FF2 joystick. As I had read somewhere that
the
drivers supplied with the joystick would not work
under
XP, I accepted the drivers installed by XP. There is
however a problem with the force changing during the
use
of the joystick. This problem is known to Microsoft
and
reported in article 321127.
However in article 302607 it is explained how the
patch
for the VIA chipset should be installed. As I have a
VIA
chipset, my questions a

a) Can I install the patch for the VIA chipset with
the
XP
drivers installed?

b) Should I install the drivers I received with the
joystick and then install the patch?

I hope someone can help.

Best Regards,

Domingos


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