After the Free Year, You Have to Pay

On 21 Jun 2015 14:10:02 GMT, Bucky Breeder
wrote:

Vitalic on "lazy":

aioesnipUpgrades.�"

In other words, if you don't upgrade for free during the first year,
you will be able to do so on day 366 and on by buying the product at
a store. If the product is purchased, you will get updates for free
for the lifetime of that device.


Yeah, like the subject says, "you have to pay".


If you upgrade during the free period, it's yours for the life of the OS.

Not for the life of the OS, but for the life of the device on which you
installed it, as defined by Microsoft.

snipped a bunch of stuff that I agree with

Char Jackson posted this via
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On 21 Jun 2015 14:10:02 GMT, Bucky Breeder
wrote:

Vitalic on "lazy":

aioesnipUpgrades.�"

In other words, if you don't upgrade for free during the first year,
you will be able to do so on day 366 and on by buying the product at
a store. If the product is purchased, you will get updates for free
for the lifetime of that device.


Yeah, like the subject says, "you have to pay".


If you upgrade during the free period, it's yours for the life of the OS.

Not for the life of the OS, but for the life of the device on which you
installed it, as defined by Microsoft.

snipped a bunch of stuff that I agree with

Good catch!

The incorrect argument, or "needless concern", as advanced in the thread,
which I was attempting to address was that after the first year [of the free
Windows 10 upgrade] Micro$oft was then going to charge a yearly fee, as in an
increasingly more common software subscription business model...

So, I should have synopsized from the distributed official M$ propoganda:

"[Free] for the life of the OS upon the device which you have installed it,
as defined by Microsoft, its Board of Directors, other officials, agents and
assigns, with limitations and conditions frequently updated in an arbitrary
and capricious random matter to which you will explicitly agree by further
use of said OS and its subsequent alterations, modifications and updates on
such qualified specific device, or death do us part, whichever, whenever or
whatever comes first - or the Supreme Court of the USA may eventually decide,
rehear, reverse, remand or otherwise modify, qualify and/or quantify thereto,
thereof, hereafter, for ever and ever, e platypus unicorn - and possibly your
first born male or female or transgender offspring as determined by the
appropriate governing commission, section, czar and/or governing or non-
governing department as yet to be determined by the available data hereafter
observed, obtained, gathered, categorized, dispositioned and stored pursuant
to your use and agreement therefrom. (SEAL)"

HTH & God bless America.

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just smoke 'em if you got 'em.

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"Big_Al" wrote in message
...
Peter Jason wrote on 5/22/2015 9:05 PM:
On Thu, 21 May 2015 08:46:02 -0400, Big_Al wrote:

Roderick Stewart wrote on 5/20/2015 6:55 AM:
On Wed, 20 May 2015 12:19:23 +0200, A wrote:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/29238...er-lapses.html

Another good reason to stay with Windows 7, a perfectly adequate
operating system which is effectively "free" from now until 2020
because I've already paid for it. Why pay more?

Rod.

I take it that you get a copy for free if you jump in within the first
year.
It's only those that wait a year that have to pay. If you pick up the
free copy, it's free for the lifetime of that
PC, same as Windows 7 etc.

This isn't news to me, I've heard this reported for months now.
I think people are just getting the free for one year mixed up with "you
only get a year free and then have to buy". I
don't think this will be the way.

IMHO.


I'm so completely confused, so I'm going to buy the didsk & do a fresh
install.

You'll be able to do that even with the free upgrade. It's already been
clarified that ISO's or such will be available.

Does anybody really know what the hell is going on?
I've a spare W7 laptop, but until MS come 100% clean it will stay W7.
Then again, it's pirate W7................

-= Hawk =- took his medications and drooled this froth:

On 21 Jun 2015 14:10:02 GMT, Bucky Breeder
scribbled:

M$ is like Hitler in many ways.

I'd like to call a Godwin's on the play.
Feel free to **** off, you lose.

YOU'D call Godwin's on ANY play because YOU ARE A LUZER...
AND because YOU ARE a Godwin's GNAT-ZEE RETARD geriatric poot-face.
**** off in yer geriatric diapers, you loony old person.

--

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Repent, the end is near... Or
just smoke 'em if you got 'em.

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-= Hawk =- posted this via
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On 21 Jun 2015 14:10:02 GMT, Bucky Breeder
scribbled:

M$ is like Hitler in many ways.

I'd like to call a Godwin's on the play.
Feel free to **** off, you lose.

You're a troll and a moron; probably Hitler's deformed ****-child of a goat.

--

I'd f#%k beer.. if it could support me in the style I'm accustomed to.

-= SQHawk =- blabbered this:

Ladies and gentleman, the proported future of our planet.

That whole transgender process makin' h/er/im crazy, at h/er/is age!

HTH.

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I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^;
Repent, the end is near... Or
just smoke 'em if you got 'em.

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-= SQHawk =- posted this:

If only your **** client didn't generate a distinctive message ID. Who's
the troll nym changer?

YOU ARE! And now everyone else knows it too. (SQHawk is admitting that she
still changes her distinctive message ID when she trolls - she also uses
multiple clients and multiple free NSPs... "sock drawer" equipment)

(S/he's going a bit Alzheimers since h/is/er transgender procedure and
expecially when she loads her geriatric diapers.)

-= Sqhawk =- didn't need the boob job... because she already had big old
floppy man-titties. A lot like Hitler... 'cept now she shaves her mustache.

--

I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^;
Repent, the end is near... Or
just smoke 'em if you got 'em.

http://tinyurl.com/ocnqvgq

Bucky Breeder wrote:

Vitalic on "lazy":

aioesnipUpgrades.�"

In other words, if you don't upgrade for free during the first year,
you will be able to do so on day 366 and on by buying the product at
a store. If the product is purchased, you will get updates for free
for the lifetime of that device.


Yeah, like the subject says, "you have to pay".


If you upgrade during the free period, it's yours for the life of the OS.

No it is only yours for the life of the device it's installed on. IE if you
change your motherboard or pc. Then you have to pay for a copy of win 10.

Bucky Breeder wrote:

Vitalic on "lazy":

aioesnipUpgrades.�"

In other words, if you don't upgrade for free during the first year,
you will be able to do so on day 366 and on by buying the product at
a store. If the product is purchased, you will get updates for free
for the lifetime of that device.


Yeah, like the subject says, "you have to pay".


If you upgrade during the free period, it's yours for the life of the OS.

NO it is only free for the life of the device it is installed on. IE if you
change your motherboard after a couple of years of having windows 10
installed on your old motherboard. you will then need to purchase a product
key or dvd of windows 10 to carry on using it. on the new motherboard or
device. if i am wrong please correct me.


No, what your title of the message implied is that even if folks
upgrade in the first year they will have to pay after the first year.

That's what I "inferred".


uh, A, yeah that's pretty much what you implied, I mean for Christ sake
people have a f-ing year to make up their mind and upgrade, if they're
that lazy to upgrade to win 10 in a year time then....... whatever


"Lazy"?!? A whole year, huh?!? I've had Win8.1 loaded up for well over a
year on one machine, maintained all of its updates... and it's STILL A
POS! It DOES NOT logically follow that Win10 will be an "improvement" - in
any empirical terms.

If Win10 is anything like Win7, Win8 and Win8.1; Win10 could be a
veritable ****-whirlpool where you have to go on full-out expeditions to
find out where temporary files and excess are stored (to clean your
caches) and then figure out which Windows folders bloat over time (like
the IE updates folders, which could grow to in excess of 1.5GB with files;
there simply in case you wanted to roll-back an update - which nobody ever
did because it would virtually disable your browser for many websites...);
OR, dig around looking for maintenance tools, like disc-cleanup (like in
Win8.1, which has to run another extensive time-consuming analyze
procedure if you opt to clean up "system files"... and then take nearly an
hour to "clean up" old update files...); OR defrag... which clunks around
for 40-min and does absolutely nothing at all; et-al; ad-nauseum...

You have to go on a mining/spelunking expedition to locate and use the
newest versions of Windows maintenance tools -- and they're even more
crippled and retarded than they ever used to be...

And it's been well over a year since that technological marvel (Win8 and
8.1) rolled out and displaced a perfectly and efficiently usable format
for
accessing computer options (WinXP). Notably, it took WinXP over a year to
evolve from basic release to SP3 which was wonderfully reliable and
stable.

[Win7 DID NOT "displace" WinXP because XP's life cycle was still in
[effect.]

M$ could have incorporated ALL their "improvements", eye-candy, dancing
displays, and big-ass icons into the same organizational format as WinXP -
and still released newer versions of their Windows visionary concepts...

MOST PEOPLE DO NOT WANT to constantly tinker with their computer
machines... THEY DO NOT WANT to learn a whole new lexicon (language)
everytime some abstract concept advances in the world of computer software
development... THEY DO NOT WANT to hunt down another whole set of
tracking- cookies (or other back-door-devices) everytime a new programming
language surfaces (e.g., Adobe Flash)... they just want relative safety
and security to just do what they routinely do, run the basic maintenance
and then get on
with their real lives... M$ seems out of touch with that very basic
concept.

M$ also seems to have WAY TOO MANY sycophants expousing the fallacy that
"change" equates to "progress". That's what Hitler said.

M$ is like Hitler in many ways. Most notably, Europe keeps thwarting its
efforts to take over. But also, they keep telling us how wonderful all
these "improvments" are, while they actually shackle, chain, and enslave
us to a senseless and disorganized entity which spys on us, exploits us
financially, then mines, stores and hides information for yet more future
exploitation prospects - including usage by a fascist government which
would imprison us in their growing corporate system of slavery and
oppression.

Whenever anything is labeled as "FREE" - history teaches us to BEWARE!!!

HTH.

Darklight belatedly idiot-posted
this via :

Bucky Breeder wrote:

Vitalic on "lazy":

aioesnipUpgrades.�"

In other words, if you don't upgrade for free during the first
year, you will be able to do so on day 366 and on by buying the
product at a store. If the product is purchased, you will get
updates for free for the lifetime of that device.


Yeah, like the subject says, "you have to pay".


If you upgrade during the free period, it's yours for the life of the
OS. [on the device which you "upgrade" === for the morons...]

NO it is only free for the life of the device it is installed on.

YES!, you myopic-asshole nazi-troll crackbaby-retard... The UPGRADE IS FREE
for the life of the OS, Windows 10... "Upgrade" DENOTES, is EXPLICIT that
the statement refers to the life of the device on which it's installed...

As if you could "upgrade" your phone and transfer it to yer PC or tablet...

So, go back and pump yer ****** in yer mama's face, or whoever taught you
your inept social and academic skills. Maybe you'll get a prize:

http://njh.images.worldnow.com/images/21018720_SA.jpg

HAND

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I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^;
Repent, the end is near... Or
just smoke 'em if you got 'em.

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Darklight posted this via
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Bucky Breeder wrote:

Vitalic on "lazy":

aioesnipUpgrades.�"

In other words, if you don't upgrade for free during the first
year, you will be able to do so on day 366 and on by buying the
product at a store. If the product is purchased, you will get
updates for free for the lifetime of that device.


Yeah, like the subject says, "you have to pay".


If you upgrade during the free period, it's yours for the life of the
OS.

NO it is only free for the life of the device it is installed on. IE if
you change your motherboard after a couple of years of having windows 10
installed on your old motherboard. you will then need to purchase a
product key or dvd of windows 10 to carry on using it. on the new
motherboard or device. if i am wrong please correct me.

Are you just stupid? You cannot "upgrade" to any other device. If you
change your motherboard, you have essentially changed devices. The OS key
and activation are assigned to the internals, not to the tan or black case.

You are so wrong! But unfortunately there is no cure for stupid. You keep
on rotating your motherboards every year because you must masturbate too
close to your computer to maintain safety standards. Read a book. Or just
Google about it. Either way, if you don't stop, you'll probably go blind.

Darklight wrote:
Bucky Breeder wrote:
If you upgrade during the free period, it's yours for the life of the OS.

NO it is only free for the life of the device it is installed on. IE if you
change your motherboard after a couple of years of having windows 10
installed on your old motherboard. you will then need to purchase a product
key or dvd of windows 10 to carry on using it. on the new motherboard or
device. if i am wrong please correct me.


Win10 free upgrade retains the qualifying o/s type of license (Retail or
OEM).

A mobo change creates a new device. Retail licenses can be transferred
to another (new) device owned by the same person. OEM licenses can not
be transfered to another (new) device owned by the same person.


The terminology is incorrect
It is not 'Life of os' but 'supported for the life of the device'.

Support parameters are defined in the Windows 10 Lifecyle FAQ
cf. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/lifecycle
qp
Windows 10, released in July 2015 **

** Updates are cumulative, with each update built upon all of the
updates that preceded it. A device needs to install the latest update to
remain supported. Updates may include new features, fixes (security
and/or non-security), or a combination of both. Not all features in an
update will work on all devices. A device may not be able to receive
updates if the device hardware is incompatible, lacking current drivers,
or otherwise outside of the Original Equipment Manufacturer’s (“OEM�)
support period. Update availability may vary, for example by country,
region, network connectivity, mobile operator (e.g., for
cellular-capable devices), or hardware capabilities (including, e.g.,
free disk space).
/qp


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msft mvp windows experience

Bucky Breeder wrote:

Darklight belatedly idiot-posted
this via :

Bucky Breeder wrote:

Vitalic on "lazy":

aioesnipUpgrades.�"

In other words, if you don't upgrade for free during the first
year, you will be able to do so on day 366 and on by buying the
product at a store. If the product is purchased, you will get
updates for free for the lifetime of that device.


Yeah, like the subject says, "you have to pay".


If you upgrade during the free period, it's yours for the life of the
OS. [on the device which you "upgrade" === for the morons...]

NO it is only free for the life of the device it is installed on.

YES!, you myopic-asshole nazi-troll crackbaby-retard... The UPGRADE IS
FREE
for the life of the OS, Windows 10... "Upgrade" DENOTES, is EXPLICIT that
the statement refers to the life of the device on which it's installed...

As if you could "upgrade" your phone and transfer it to yer PC or
tablet...

So, go back and pump yer ****** in yer mama's face, or whoever taught you
your inept social and academic skills. Maybe you'll get a prize:

http://njh.images.worldnow.com/images/21018720_SA.jpg

HAND

If this message is directed at me I have to correct you

http://www.winbeta.org/news/microsof...-fee-upgraders

Microsoft announced earlier today that Windows 10 would be free for all
Windows 7 users and Windows 8.1 users within the first year of Windows 10's
launch. This is excellent news, as it means there's no excuse for users
running the older operating systems to upgrade. However, it appears there is
some confusion as to whether users who upgraded will need to pay after that
year.

Gabe Aul on Twitter has confirmed that those who update to Windows 10 from
Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 will receive Windows 10 for the lifetime of their
device, meaning you don't need to pay yearly or monthly fee after that first
year is up. So yes, everyone can relax and look forward to updating to
Windows 10 when it launches later this year.

Now, that doesn't mean new customers won't have to pay for Windows 10. Right
now, it only looks like Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 users will get a free pass
to Windows 10. New customers coming from other operating systems may have to
pay for a license, or perhaps Microsoft is planning a subscription based
module for Windows 10?

the words above are not my words but taken from the web page

the OS will out live the life of the device. So windows 10 is free for the
life of the device. The fact that you have become angry and rude is a
defensive posture needing to ridicule another or put another person down is
another defensive posture.

why are you like this because you know you are wrong!

You need to read your words properly A device can be a pc, mobile phone or
tablet.

So how you come up with this

As if you could "upgrade" your phone and transfer it to yer PC or tablet...

is laughable.

There might be some people who think you could download the ISO of windows
10 and upgrade from that. Did you ever consider that?

Darklight posted this via
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If this message is directed at me I have to correct you

You are a fuukeen idiot! Go get yer prize :

http://njh.images.worldnow.com/images/21018720_SA.jpg

--

I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^;
Repent, the end is near... Or
just smoke 'em if you got 'em.

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.. . .winston posted
this via :

The terminology is incorrect
It is not 'Life of os' but 'supported for the life of the device'.

So, like with the expiration of Windows XP, as long as you have the device,
Microsoft will continue to support the OS... ??? NO!!! U R WRONG!

I said "upgrade"; that denotes "the device" which is upgraded... when the
OS expires, Microsoft will discontinue support, just like with XP... My
remark was acurately stated and was juxtaposed to an OP stated fear that
Microsoft would charge some hidden fee[s] after the first year...

The upgrade is "FREE" and continues as such for the life of the OS. "On
the device upgraded" is obviously and naturally denoted without stupid
retarded prattling by a dumbass wannabe and your nym-shyfting Siamese twin
retard. That'd be YOU, in case you're confused about that one too.

You're going a long way around your jelly crack-baby brains to make a
stupid argument over oblique semantics - and you're still fuukeen wrong!
You're a wrong-thinking individual or else you'd be working for Microsoft
instead of demonstrating yourself as a stupid MVP. Typical "MVP" nym-
shifter luzer.

--

I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^;
Repent, the end is near... Or
just smoke 'em if you got 'em.

http://tinyurl.com/ocnqvgq