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  #61  
Old April 18th 04, 02:04 PM
Bill
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Default Perfectdisk Stops Prefetch - Greg Hayes?

R. McCarty wrote:

I missed the original post, so I'm speculating here.


No problem, I'll repeat info as needed.

Perfect Disk doesn't factor into the Prefetch operations,
it only uses the Layout.Ini file to do the file placement.


That's what it's supposed to do, but it's doing something to prefetch on
my computer as it's been almost two weeks now and I have dozens of
obsolete PF files in the prefetch folder which are up to two weeks old.

The .pf files are occasionally purged by Windows XP.


Yes, XP takes care of the folder just fine and has done so for the last
two years when I just used MS Defrag.

However, as soon as PerfectDisk was installed XP stopped cleaning up the
folder.

To give you some background, I first installed PerfectDisk v6 almost a
month ago to try it out. It seemed to work great, defragging very well,
offline defrags put the MFT and Pagefile in good spots, etc.

But a week after installing it, I glanced at the prefetch folder and
noticed that old files were in there dating back to the day I installed
PerfectDisk. Some PF that pointed to PD setup and dozens of instances
of Rundll32 files. That's when I realized something was wrong with
prefetching.

So I checked all the settings in PD and then went looking for info on
prefetching. I read everything I could find on the net, including
Raxco's website.

I thought maybe it was a fluke, so I did a second clean install of XP,
updates, and then installed PD and some usual programs like Agent,
Eudora, etc. After a week, same thing - XP stops managing the prefetch
folder and I'm forced to clean up the folder myself.

So I tried another clean install of XP, updates, and install PD and some
programs. Used different PD setting this time, having PD manage all of
the Layout.ini files instead of the default. Once again after a week,
same thing - XP stops managing the prefetch folder.

Now I did read a thread about PD not disabling prefetch:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...isk%2Bprefetch

"PerfectDisk doesn't disable prefetch. What PD does is to disable the
partial defrag that WinXP is performing approximately every three days
to attempt to make sure that the files in the prefetch folder are
contiguous."

And that seems to be what is happening on my system. However, if PD
stops the 3 day partial defrag, and XP's prefetch just keeps building
more and more PF files, then there is an obvious issue here with the
prefetch folder growing out of control.

Perhaps if PD would clear the Prefetch folder and change the prefetching
to "boot files" ONLY in the Registry
(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contr ol\Session
Manager\Memory Management\PrefetchParameters) to Enableprefetcher=2 then
it would stop building PF files and just keep the Layout and
NTOSBOOT-BOODFAAD files, then it would do its job.

But while this keeps the prefetch folder nice and tidy, it effectively
reduces performance because prefetching of applications is no longer in
effect. Boot times will be the same, but opening programs will be
slightly slower.

So I tried using the setting to let Windows manage the files, which
changes the Registry key
(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVersion\OptimalLayout)
back to OptimalLayout=1, however that still does not let XP clean up the
folder, partial defrag does not start to work without reinstalling
Windows again.

Stand alone computer - let perfect disk manage all files


This is the odd part. I have PerfectDisk in the same config as this
user, yet his computer seems to manage the prefetch folder just fine
whereas mine just keeps adding more and more PF files without cleaning
up the older entries.

I've tried uninstalling PerfectDisk, but whatever changes it makes, are
not undone by removing PD. Only a clean install of Windows seems to fix
it.

I posted this in hopes that Greg Hayes of Raxco Software would see it,
but apparently he hasn't posted here in about a month, nor in any other
group in over two weeks according to Google.

Perhaps he's on holidays...
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  #62  
Old April 18th 04, 02:04 PM
Bill
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Default Perfectdisk Stops Prefetch - Greg Hayes?

R. McCarty wrote:

I missed the original post, so I'm speculating here.


No problem, I'll repeat info as needed.

Perfect Disk doesn't factor into the Prefetch operations,
it only uses the Layout.Ini file to do the file placement.


That's what it's supposed to do, but it's doing something to prefetch on
my computer as it's been almost two weeks now and I have dozens of
obsolete PF files in the prefetch folder which are up to two weeks old.

The .pf files are occasionally purged by Windows XP.


Yes, XP takes care of the folder just fine and has done so for the last
two years when I just used MS Defrag.

However, as soon as PerfectDisk was installed XP stopped cleaning up the
folder.

To give you some background, I first installed PerfectDisk v6 almost a
month ago to try it out. It seemed to work great, defragging very well,
offline defrags put the MFT and Pagefile in good spots, etc.

But a week after installing it, I glanced at the prefetch folder and
noticed that old files were in there dating back to the day I installed
PerfectDisk. Some PF that pointed to PD setup and dozens of instances
of Rundll32 files. That's when I realized something was wrong with
prefetching.

So I checked all the settings in PD and then went looking for info on
prefetching. I read everything I could find on the net, including
Raxco's website.

I thought maybe it was a fluke, so I did a second clean install of XP,
updates, and then installed PD and some usual programs like Agent,
Eudora, etc. After a week, same thing - XP stops managing the prefetch
folder and I'm forced to clean up the folder myself.

So I tried another clean install of XP, updates, and install PD and some
programs. Used different PD setting this time, having PD manage all of
the Layout.ini files instead of the default. Once again after a week,
same thing - XP stops managing the prefetch folder.

Now I did read a thread about PD not disabling prefetch:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...isk%2Bprefetch

"PerfectDisk doesn't disable prefetch. What PD does is to disable the
partial defrag that WinXP is performing approximately every three days
to attempt to make sure that the files in the prefetch folder are
contiguous."

And that seems to be what is happening on my system. However, if PD
stops the 3 day partial defrag, and XP's prefetch just keeps building
more and more PF files, then there is an obvious issue here with the
prefetch folder growing out of control.

Perhaps if PD would clear the Prefetch folder and change the prefetching
to "boot files" ONLY in the Registry
(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contr ol\Session
Manager\Memory Management\PrefetchParameters) to Enableprefetcher=2 then
it would stop building PF files and just keep the Layout and
NTOSBOOT-BOODFAAD files, then it would do its job.

But while this keeps the prefetch folder nice and tidy, it effectively
reduces performance because prefetching of applications is no longer in
effect. Boot times will be the same, but opening programs will be
slightly slower.

So I tried using the setting to let Windows manage the files, which
changes the Registry key
(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVersion\OptimalLayout)
back to OptimalLayout=1, however that still does not let XP clean up the
folder, partial defrag does not start to work without reinstalling
Windows again.

Stand alone computer - let perfect disk manage all files


This is the odd part. I have PerfectDisk in the same config as this
user, yet his computer seems to manage the prefetch folder just fine
whereas mine just keeps adding more and more PF files without cleaning
up the older entries.

I've tried uninstalling PerfectDisk, but whatever changes it makes, are
not undone by removing PD. Only a clean install of Windows seems to fix
it.

I posted this in hopes that Greg Hayes of Raxco Software would see it,
but apparently he hasn't posted here in about a month, nor in any other
group in over two weeks according to Google.

Perhaps he's on holidays...
  #63  
Old April 18th 04, 02:05 PM
Richard Urban
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Posts: n/a
Default Perfectdisk Stops Prefetch - Greg Hayes?

Here is what I have done Bill.

1. I install PerfectDisk.
2. Using "prefetch Clean and Control" (3rd party utility), I purge my
prefetch folder. I also make certain that the prefetch parameter is set for
boot files AND programs.
3. I reboot to set the parameter!
4. I open each, and every, one of my "main" programs - those I consider
important. This is to get the prefetch info into the folder. I also reboot
numerous times to be certain that "all" of the boot info is placed into the
folder.
5. After about 5 boots, I change the prefetch parameters to "boot only"
6. I reboot one more time to lock the parameter.

My prefetch folder "never changes" after this - and I like it that way. All
my boot info is there and only those programs I choose to use frequently
puts info there. Now I just stop worrying about the damn thing, as it has
been proven to me that it doesn't change - even after 4-5 months.

--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

"Bill" wrote in message ...
R. McCarty wrote:

I missed the original post, so I'm speculating here.


No problem, I'll repeat info as needed.

Perfect Disk doesn't factor into the Prefetch operations,
it only uses the Layout.Ini file to do the file placement.


That's what it's supposed to do, but it's doing something to prefetch on
my computer as it's been almost two weeks now and I have dozens of
obsolete PF files in the prefetch folder which are up to two weeks old.

The .pf files are occasionally purged by Windows XP.


Yes, XP takes care of the folder just fine and has done so for the last
two years when I just used MS Defrag.

However, as soon as PerfectDisk was installed XP stopped cleaning up the
folder.

To give you some background, I first installed PerfectDisk v6 almost a
month ago to try it out. It seemed to work great, defragging very well,
offline defrags put the MFT and Pagefile in good spots, etc.

But a week after installing it, I glanced at the prefetch folder and
noticed that old files were in there dating back to the day I installed
PerfectDisk. Some PF that pointed to PD setup and dozens of instances
of Rundll32 files. That's when I realized something was wrong with
prefetching.

So I checked all the settings in PD and then went looking for info on
prefetching. I read everything I could find on the net, including
Raxco's website.

I thought maybe it was a fluke, so I did a second clean install of XP,
updates, and then installed PD and some usual programs like Agent,
Eudora, etc. After a week, same thing - XP stops managing the prefetch
folder and I'm forced to clean up the folder myself.

So I tried another clean install of XP, updates, and install PD and some
programs. Used different PD setting this time, having PD manage all of
the Layout.ini files instead of the default. Once again after a week,
same thing - XP stops managing the prefetch folder.

Now I did read a thread about PD not disabling prefetch:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...isk%2Bprefetch

"PerfectDisk doesn't disable prefetch. What PD does is to disable the
partial defrag that WinXP is performing approximately every three days
to attempt to make sure that the files in the prefetch folder are
contiguous."

And that seems to be what is happening on my system. However, if PD
stops the 3 day partial defrag, and XP's prefetch just keeps building
more and more PF files, then there is an obvious issue here with the
prefetch folder growing out of control.

Perhaps if PD would clear the Prefetch folder and change the prefetching
to "boot files" ONLY in the Registry
(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contr ol\Session
Manager\Memory Management\PrefetchParameters) to Enableprefetcher=2 then
it would stop building PF files and just keep the Layout and
NTOSBOOT-BOODFAAD files, then it would do its job.

But while this keeps the prefetch folder nice and tidy, it effectively
reduces performance because prefetching of applications is no longer in
effect. Boot times will be the same, but opening programs will be
slightly slower.

So I tried using the setting to let Windows manage the files, which
changes the Registry key
(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVersion\OptimalLayout)
back to OptimalLayout=1, however that still does not let XP clean up the
folder, partial defrag does not start to work without reinstalling
Windows again.

Stand alone computer - let perfect disk manage all files


This is the odd part. I have PerfectDisk in the same config as this
user, yet his computer seems to manage the prefetch folder just fine
whereas mine just keeps adding more and more PF files without cleaning
up the older entries.

I've tried uninstalling PerfectDisk, but whatever changes it makes, are
not undone by removing PD. Only a clean install of Windows seems to fix
it.

I posted this in hopes that Greg Hayes of Raxco Software would see it,
but apparently he hasn't posted here in about a month, nor in any other
group in over two weeks according to Google.

Perhaps he's on holidays...



  #64  
Old April 18th 04, 02:05 PM
Richard Urban
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Perfectdisk Stops Prefetch - Greg Hayes?

Here is what I have done Bill.

1. I install PerfectDisk.
2. Using "prefetch Clean and Control" (3rd party utility), I purge my
prefetch folder. I also make certain that the prefetch parameter is set for
boot files AND programs.
3. I reboot to set the parameter!
4. I open each, and every, one of my "main" programs - those I consider
important. This is to get the prefetch info into the folder. I also reboot
numerous times to be certain that "all" of the boot info is placed into the
folder.
5. After about 5 boots, I change the prefetch parameters to "boot only"
6. I reboot one more time to lock the parameter.

My prefetch folder "never changes" after this - and I like it that way. All
my boot info is there and only those programs I choose to use frequently
puts info there. Now I just stop worrying about the damn thing, as it has
been proven to me that it doesn't change - even after 4-5 months.

--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

"Bill" wrote in message ...
R. McCarty wrote:

I missed the original post, so I'm speculating here.


No problem, I'll repeat info as needed.

Perfect Disk doesn't factor into the Prefetch operations,
it only uses the Layout.Ini file to do the file placement.


That's what it's supposed to do, but it's doing something to prefetch on
my computer as it's been almost two weeks now and I have dozens of
obsolete PF files in the prefetch folder which are up to two weeks old.

The .pf files are occasionally purged by Windows XP.


Yes, XP takes care of the folder just fine and has done so for the last
two years when I just used MS Defrag.

However, as soon as PerfectDisk was installed XP stopped cleaning up the
folder.

To give you some background, I first installed PerfectDisk v6 almost a
month ago to try it out. It seemed to work great, defragging very well,
offline defrags put the MFT and Pagefile in good spots, etc.

But a week after installing it, I glanced at the prefetch folder and
noticed that old files were in there dating back to the day I installed
PerfectDisk. Some PF that pointed to PD setup and dozens of instances
of Rundll32 files. That's when I realized something was wrong with
prefetching.

So I checked all the settings in PD and then went looking for info on
prefetching. I read everything I could find on the net, including
Raxco's website.

I thought maybe it was a fluke, so I did a second clean install of XP,
updates, and then installed PD and some usual programs like Agent,
Eudora, etc. After a week, same thing - XP stops managing the prefetch
folder and I'm forced to clean up the folder myself.

So I tried another clean install of XP, updates, and install PD and some
programs. Used different PD setting this time, having PD manage all of
the Layout.ini files instead of the default. Once again after a week,
same thing - XP stops managing the prefetch folder.

Now I did read a thread about PD not disabling prefetch:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...isk%2Bprefetch

"PerfectDisk doesn't disable prefetch. What PD does is to disable the
partial defrag that WinXP is performing approximately every three days
to attempt to make sure that the files in the prefetch folder are
contiguous."

And that seems to be what is happening on my system. However, if PD
stops the 3 day partial defrag, and XP's prefetch just keeps building
more and more PF files, then there is an obvious issue here with the
prefetch folder growing out of control.

Perhaps if PD would clear the Prefetch folder and change the prefetching
to "boot files" ONLY in the Registry
(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contr ol\Session
Manager\Memory Management\PrefetchParameters) to Enableprefetcher=2 then
it would stop building PF files and just keep the Layout and
NTOSBOOT-BOODFAAD files, then it would do its job.

But while this keeps the prefetch folder nice and tidy, it effectively
reduces performance because prefetching of applications is no longer in
effect. Boot times will be the same, but opening programs will be
slightly slower.

So I tried using the setting to let Windows manage the files, which
changes the Registry key
(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVersion\OptimalLayout)
back to OptimalLayout=1, however that still does not let XP clean up the
folder, partial defrag does not start to work without reinstalling
Windows again.

Stand alone computer - let perfect disk manage all files


This is the odd part. I have PerfectDisk in the same config as this
user, yet his computer seems to manage the prefetch folder just fine
whereas mine just keeps adding more and more PF files without cleaning
up the older entries.

I've tried uninstalling PerfectDisk, but whatever changes it makes, are
not undone by removing PD. Only a clean install of Windows seems to fix
it.

I posted this in hopes that Greg Hayes of Raxco Software would see it,
but apparently he hasn't posted here in about a month, nor in any other
group in over two weeks according to Google.

Perhaps he's on holidays...



  #65  
Old April 18th 04, 02:05 PM
Richard Urban
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Perfectdisk Stops Prefetch - Greg Hayes?

Here is what I have done Bill.

1. I install PerfectDisk.
2. Using "prefetch Clean and Control" (3rd party utility), I purge my
prefetch folder. I also make certain that the prefetch parameter is set for
boot files AND programs.
3. I reboot to set the parameter!
4. I open each, and every, one of my "main" programs - those I consider
important. This is to get the prefetch info into the folder. I also reboot
numerous times to be certain that "all" of the boot info is placed into the
folder.
5. After about 5 boots, I change the prefetch parameters to "boot only"
6. I reboot one more time to lock the parameter.

My prefetch folder "never changes" after this - and I like it that way. All
my boot info is there and only those programs I choose to use frequently
puts info there. Now I just stop worrying about the damn thing, as it has
been proven to me that it doesn't change - even after 4-5 months.

--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

"Bill" wrote in message ...
R. McCarty wrote:

I missed the original post, so I'm speculating here.


No problem, I'll repeat info as needed.

Perfect Disk doesn't factor into the Prefetch operations,
it only uses the Layout.Ini file to do the file placement.


That's what it's supposed to do, but it's doing something to prefetch on
my computer as it's been almost two weeks now and I have dozens of
obsolete PF files in the prefetch folder which are up to two weeks old.

The .pf files are occasionally purged by Windows XP.


Yes, XP takes care of the folder just fine and has done so for the last
two years when I just used MS Defrag.

However, as soon as PerfectDisk was installed XP stopped cleaning up the
folder.

To give you some background, I first installed PerfectDisk v6 almost a
month ago to try it out. It seemed to work great, defragging very well,
offline defrags put the MFT and Pagefile in good spots, etc.

But a week after installing it, I glanced at the prefetch folder and
noticed that old files were in there dating back to the day I installed
PerfectDisk. Some PF that pointed to PD setup and dozens of instances
of Rundll32 files. That's when I realized something was wrong with
prefetching.

So I checked all the settings in PD and then went looking for info on
prefetching. I read everything I could find on the net, including
Raxco's website.

I thought maybe it was a fluke, so I did a second clean install of XP,
updates, and then installed PD and some usual programs like Agent,
Eudora, etc. After a week, same thing - XP stops managing the prefetch
folder and I'm forced to clean up the folder myself.

So I tried another clean install of XP, updates, and install PD and some
programs. Used different PD setting this time, having PD manage all of
the Layout.ini files instead of the default. Once again after a week,
same thing - XP stops managing the prefetch folder.

Now I did read a thread about PD not disabling prefetch:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...isk%2Bprefetch

"PerfectDisk doesn't disable prefetch. What PD does is to disable the
partial defrag that WinXP is performing approximately every three days
to attempt to make sure that the files in the prefetch folder are
contiguous."

And that seems to be what is happening on my system. However, if PD
stops the 3 day partial defrag, and XP's prefetch just keeps building
more and more PF files, then there is an obvious issue here with the
prefetch folder growing out of control.

Perhaps if PD would clear the Prefetch folder and change the prefetching
to "boot files" ONLY in the Registry
(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contr ol\Session
Manager\Memory Management\PrefetchParameters) to Enableprefetcher=2 then
it would stop building PF files and just keep the Layout and
NTOSBOOT-BOODFAAD files, then it would do its job.

But while this keeps the prefetch folder nice and tidy, it effectively
reduces performance because prefetching of applications is no longer in
effect. Boot times will be the same, but opening programs will be
slightly slower.

So I tried using the setting to let Windows manage the files, which
changes the Registry key
(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVersion\OptimalLayout)
back to OptimalLayout=1, however that still does not let XP clean up the
folder, partial defrag does not start to work without reinstalling
Windows again.

Stand alone computer - let perfect disk manage all files


This is the odd part. I have PerfectDisk in the same config as this
user, yet his computer seems to manage the prefetch folder just fine
whereas mine just keeps adding more and more PF files without cleaning
up the older entries.

I've tried uninstalling PerfectDisk, but whatever changes it makes, are
not undone by removing PD. Only a clean install of Windows seems to fix
it.

I posted this in hopes that Greg Hayes of Raxco Software would see it,
but apparently he hasn't posted here in about a month, nor in any other
group in over two weeks according to Google.

Perhaps he's on holidays...



  #66  
Old April 18th 04, 02:05 PM
Richard Urban
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Perfectdisk Stops Prefetch - Greg Hayes?

Here is what I have done Bill.

1. I install PerfectDisk.
2. Using "prefetch Clean and Control" (3rd party utility), I purge my
prefetch folder. I also make certain that the prefetch parameter is set for
boot files AND programs.
3. I reboot to set the parameter!
4. I open each, and every, one of my "main" programs - those I consider
important. This is to get the prefetch info into the folder. I also reboot
numerous times to be certain that "all" of the boot info is placed into the
folder.
5. After about 5 boots, I change the prefetch parameters to "boot only"
6. I reboot one more time to lock the parameter.

My prefetch folder "never changes" after this - and I like it that way. All
my boot info is there and only those programs I choose to use frequently
puts info there. Now I just stop worrying about the damn thing, as it has
been proven to me that it doesn't change - even after 4-5 months.

--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

"Bill" wrote in message ...
R. McCarty wrote:

I missed the original post, so I'm speculating here.


No problem, I'll repeat info as needed.

Perfect Disk doesn't factor into the Prefetch operations,
it only uses the Layout.Ini file to do the file placement.


That's what it's supposed to do, but it's doing something to prefetch on
my computer as it's been almost two weeks now and I have dozens of
obsolete PF files in the prefetch folder which are up to two weeks old.

The .pf files are occasionally purged by Windows XP.


Yes, XP takes care of the folder just fine and has done so for the last
two years when I just used MS Defrag.

However, as soon as PerfectDisk was installed XP stopped cleaning up the
folder.

To give you some background, I first installed PerfectDisk v6 almost a
month ago to try it out. It seemed to work great, defragging very well,
offline defrags put the MFT and Pagefile in good spots, etc.

But a week after installing it, I glanced at the prefetch folder and
noticed that old files were in there dating back to the day I installed
PerfectDisk. Some PF that pointed to PD setup and dozens of instances
of Rundll32 files. That's when I realized something was wrong with
prefetching.

So I checked all the settings in PD and then went looking for info on
prefetching. I read everything I could find on the net, including
Raxco's website.

I thought maybe it was a fluke, so I did a second clean install of XP,
updates, and then installed PD and some usual programs like Agent,
Eudora, etc. After a week, same thing - XP stops managing the prefetch
folder and I'm forced to clean up the folder myself.

So I tried another clean install of XP, updates, and install PD and some
programs. Used different PD setting this time, having PD manage all of
the Layout.ini files instead of the default. Once again after a week,
same thing - XP stops managing the prefetch folder.

Now I did read a thread about PD not disabling prefetch:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...isk%2Bprefetch

"PerfectDisk doesn't disable prefetch. What PD does is to disable the
partial defrag that WinXP is performing approximately every three days
to attempt to make sure that the files in the prefetch folder are
contiguous."

And that seems to be what is happening on my system. However, if PD
stops the 3 day partial defrag, and XP's prefetch just keeps building
more and more PF files, then there is an obvious issue here with the
prefetch folder growing out of control.

Perhaps if PD would clear the Prefetch folder and change the prefetching
to "boot files" ONLY in the Registry
(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contr ol\Session
Manager\Memory Management\PrefetchParameters) to Enableprefetcher=2 then
it would stop building PF files and just keep the Layout and
NTOSBOOT-BOODFAAD files, then it would do its job.

But while this keeps the prefetch folder nice and tidy, it effectively
reduces performance because prefetching of applications is no longer in
effect. Boot times will be the same, but opening programs will be
slightly slower.

So I tried using the setting to let Windows manage the files, which
changes the Registry key
(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVersion\OptimalLayout)
back to OptimalLayout=1, however that still does not let XP clean up the
folder, partial defrag does not start to work without reinstalling
Windows again.

Stand alone computer - let perfect disk manage all files


This is the odd part. I have PerfectDisk in the same config as this
user, yet his computer seems to manage the prefetch folder just fine
whereas mine just keeps adding more and more PF files without cleaning
up the older entries.

I've tried uninstalling PerfectDisk, but whatever changes it makes, are
not undone by removing PD. Only a clean install of Windows seems to fix
it.

I posted this in hopes that Greg Hayes of Raxco Software would see it,
but apparently he hasn't posted here in about a month, nor in any other
group in over two weeks according to Google.

Perhaps he's on holidays...



  #67  
Old April 18th 04, 02:05 PM
Richard Urban
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Perfectdisk Stops Prefetch - Greg Hayes?

Here is what I have done Bill.

1. I install PerfectDisk.
2. Using "prefetch Clean and Control" (3rd party utility), I purge my
prefetch folder. I also make certain that the prefetch parameter is set for
boot files AND programs.
3. I reboot to set the parameter!
4. I open each, and every, one of my "main" programs - those I consider
important. This is to get the prefetch info into the folder. I also reboot
numerous times to be certain that "all" of the boot info is placed into the
folder.
5. After about 5 boots, I change the prefetch parameters to "boot only"
6. I reboot one more time to lock the parameter.

My prefetch folder "never changes" after this - and I like it that way. All
my boot info is there and only those programs I choose to use frequently
puts info there. Now I just stop worrying about the damn thing, as it has
been proven to me that it doesn't change - even after 4-5 months.

--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

"Bill" wrote in message ...
R. McCarty wrote:

I missed the original post, so I'm speculating here.


No problem, I'll repeat info as needed.

Perfect Disk doesn't factor into the Prefetch operations,
it only uses the Layout.Ini file to do the file placement.


That's what it's supposed to do, but it's doing something to prefetch on
my computer as it's been almost two weeks now and I have dozens of
obsolete PF files in the prefetch folder which are up to two weeks old.

The .pf files are occasionally purged by Windows XP.


Yes, XP takes care of the folder just fine and has done so for the last
two years when I just used MS Defrag.

However, as soon as PerfectDisk was installed XP stopped cleaning up the
folder.

To give you some background, I first installed PerfectDisk v6 almost a
month ago to try it out. It seemed to work great, defragging very well,
offline defrags put the MFT and Pagefile in good spots, etc.

But a week after installing it, I glanced at the prefetch folder and
noticed that old files were in there dating back to the day I installed
PerfectDisk. Some PF that pointed to PD setup and dozens of instances
of Rundll32 files. That's when I realized something was wrong with
prefetching.

So I checked all the settings in PD and then went looking for info on
prefetching. I read everything I could find on the net, including
Raxco's website.

I thought maybe it was a fluke, so I did a second clean install of XP,
updates, and then installed PD and some usual programs like Agent,
Eudora, etc. After a week, same thing - XP stops managing the prefetch
folder and I'm forced to clean up the folder myself.

So I tried another clean install of XP, updates, and install PD and some
programs. Used different PD setting this time, having PD manage all of
the Layout.ini files instead of the default. Once again after a week,
same thing - XP stops managing the prefetch folder.

Now I did read a thread about PD not disabling prefetch:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...isk%2Bprefetch

"PerfectDisk doesn't disable prefetch. What PD does is to disable the
partial defrag that WinXP is performing approximately every three days
to attempt to make sure that the files in the prefetch folder are
contiguous."

And that seems to be what is happening on my system. However, if PD
stops the 3 day partial defrag, and XP's prefetch just keeps building
more and more PF files, then there is an obvious issue here with the
prefetch folder growing out of control.

Perhaps if PD would clear the Prefetch folder and change the prefetching
to "boot files" ONLY in the Registry
(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contr ol\Session
Manager\Memory Management\PrefetchParameters) to Enableprefetcher=2 then
it would stop building PF files and just keep the Layout and
NTOSBOOT-BOODFAAD files, then it would do its job.

But while this keeps the prefetch folder nice and tidy, it effectively
reduces performance because prefetching of applications is no longer in
effect. Boot times will be the same, but opening programs will be
slightly slower.

So I tried using the setting to let Windows manage the files, which
changes the Registry key
(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVersion\OptimalLayout)
back to OptimalLayout=1, however that still does not let XP clean up the
folder, partial defrag does not start to work without reinstalling
Windows again.

Stand alone computer - let perfect disk manage all files


This is the odd part. I have PerfectDisk in the same config as this
user, yet his computer seems to manage the prefetch folder just fine
whereas mine just keeps adding more and more PF files without cleaning
up the older entries.

I've tried uninstalling PerfectDisk, but whatever changes it makes, are
not undone by removing PD. Only a clean install of Windows seems to fix
it.

I posted this in hopes that Greg Hayes of Raxco Software would see it,
but apparently he hasn't posted here in about a month, nor in any other
group in over two weeks according to Google.

Perhaps he's on holidays...



  #68  
Old April 18th 04, 02:05 PM
Richard Urban
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Posts: n/a
Default Perfectdisk Stops Prefetch - Greg Hayes?

Here is what I have done Bill.

1. I install PerfectDisk.
2. Using "prefetch Clean and Control" (3rd party utility), I purge my
prefetch folder. I also make certain that the prefetch parameter is set for
boot files AND programs.
3. I reboot to set the parameter!
4. I open each, and every, one of my "main" programs - those I consider
important. This is to get the prefetch info into the folder. I also reboot
numerous times to be certain that "all" of the boot info is placed into the
folder.
5. After about 5 boots, I change the prefetch parameters to "boot only"
6. I reboot one more time to lock the parameter.

My prefetch folder "never changes" after this - and I like it that way. All
my boot info is there and only those programs I choose to use frequently
puts info there. Now I just stop worrying about the damn thing, as it has
been proven to me that it doesn't change - even after 4-5 months.

--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

"Bill" wrote in message ...
R. McCarty wrote:

I missed the original post, so I'm speculating here.


No problem, I'll repeat info as needed.

Perfect Disk doesn't factor into the Prefetch operations,
it only uses the Layout.Ini file to do the file placement.


That's what it's supposed to do, but it's doing something to prefetch on
my computer as it's been almost two weeks now and I have dozens of
obsolete PF files in the prefetch folder which are up to two weeks old.

The .pf files are occasionally purged by Windows XP.


Yes, XP takes care of the folder just fine and has done so for the last
two years when I just used MS Defrag.

However, as soon as PerfectDisk was installed XP stopped cleaning up the
folder.

To give you some background, I first installed PerfectDisk v6 almost a
month ago to try it out. It seemed to work great, defragging very well,
offline defrags put the MFT and Pagefile in good spots, etc.

But a week after installing it, I glanced at the prefetch folder and
noticed that old files were in there dating back to the day I installed
PerfectDisk. Some PF that pointed to PD setup and dozens of instances
of Rundll32 files. That's when I realized something was wrong with
prefetching.

So I checked all the settings in PD and then went looking for info on
prefetching. I read everything I could find on the net, including
Raxco's website.

I thought maybe it was a fluke, so I did a second clean install of XP,
updates, and then installed PD and some usual programs like Agent,
Eudora, etc. After a week, same thing - XP stops managing the prefetch
folder and I'm forced to clean up the folder myself.

So I tried another clean install of XP, updates, and install PD and some
programs. Used different PD setting this time, having PD manage all of
the Layout.ini files instead of the default. Once again after a week,
same thing - XP stops managing the prefetch folder.

Now I did read a thread about PD not disabling prefetch:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...isk%2Bprefetch

"PerfectDisk doesn't disable prefetch. What PD does is to disable the
partial defrag that WinXP is performing approximately every three days
to attempt to make sure that the files in the prefetch folder are
contiguous."

And that seems to be what is happening on my system. However, if PD
stops the 3 day partial defrag, and XP's prefetch just keeps building
more and more PF files, then there is an obvious issue here with the
prefetch folder growing out of control.

Perhaps if PD would clear the Prefetch folder and change the prefetching
to "boot files" ONLY in the Registry
(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contr ol\Session
Manager\Memory Management\PrefetchParameters) to Enableprefetcher=2 then
it would stop building PF files and just keep the Layout and
NTOSBOOT-BOODFAAD files, then it would do its job.

But while this keeps the prefetch folder nice and tidy, it effectively
reduces performance because prefetching of applications is no longer in
effect. Boot times will be the same, but opening programs will be
slightly slower.

So I tried using the setting to let Windows manage the files, which
changes the Registry key
(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVersion\OptimalLayout)
back to OptimalLayout=1, however that still does not let XP clean up the
folder, partial defrag does not start to work without reinstalling
Windows again.

Stand alone computer - let perfect disk manage all files


This is the odd part. I have PerfectDisk in the same config as this
user, yet his computer seems to manage the prefetch folder just fine
whereas mine just keeps adding more and more PF files without cleaning
up the older entries.

I've tried uninstalling PerfectDisk, but whatever changes it makes, are
not undone by removing PD. Only a clean install of Windows seems to fix
it.

I posted this in hopes that Greg Hayes of Raxco Software would see it,
but apparently he hasn't posted here in about a month, nor in any other
group in over two weeks according to Google.

Perhaps he's on holidays...



  #69  
Old April 18th 04, 02:14 PM
Bill
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Posts: n/a
Default Perfectdisk Stops Prefetch - Greg Hayes?

R. McCarty wrote:

I missed the original post, so I'm speculating here.


No problem, I'll repeat info as needed.

Perfect Disk doesn't factor into the Prefetch operations,
it only uses the Layout.Ini file to do the file placement.


That's what it's supposed to do, but it's doing something to prefetch on
my computer as it's been almost two weeks now and I have dozens of
obsolete PF files in the prefetch folder which are up to two weeks old.

The .pf files are occasionally purged by Windows XP.


Yes, XP takes care of the folder just fine and has done so for the last
two years when I just used MS Defrag.

However, as soon as PerfectDisk was installed XP stopped cleaning up the
folder.

To give you some background, I first installed PerfectDisk v6 almost a
month ago to try it out. It seemed to work great, defragging very well,
offline defrags put the MFT and Pagefile in good spots, etc.

But a week after installing it, I glanced at the prefetch folder and
noticed that old files were in there dating back to the day I installed
PerfectDisk. Some PF that pointed to PD setup and dozens of instances
of Rundll32 files. That's when I realized something was wrong with
prefetching.

So I checked all the settings in PD and then went looking for info on
prefetching. I read everything I could find on the net, including
Raxco's website.

I thought maybe it was a fluke, so I did a second clean install of XP,
updates, and then installed PD and some usual programs like Agent,
Eudora, etc. After a week, same thing - XP stops managing the prefetch
folder and I'm forced to clean up the folder myself.

So I tried another clean install of XP, updates, and install PD and some
programs. Used different PD setting this time, having PD manage all of
the Layout.ini files instead of the default. Once again after a week,
same thing - XP stops managing the prefetch folder.

Now I did read a thread about PD not disabling prefetch:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...isk%2Bprefetch

"PerfectDisk doesn't disable prefetch. What PD does is to disable the
partial defrag that WinXP is performing approximately every three days
to attempt to make sure that the files in the prefetch folder are
contiguous."

And that seems to be what is happening on my system. However, if PD
stops the 3 day partial defrag, and XP's prefetch just keeps building
more and more PF files, then there is an obvious issue here with the
prefetch folder growing out of control.

Perhaps if PD would clear the Prefetch folder and change the prefetching
to "boot files" ONLY in the Registry
(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contr ol\Session
Manager\Memory Management\PrefetchParameters) to Enableprefetcher=2 then
it would stop building PF files and just keep the Layout and
NTOSBOOT-BOODFAAD files, then it would do its job.

But while this keeps the prefetch folder nice and tidy, it effectively
reduces performance because prefetching of applications is no longer in
effect. Boot times will be the same, but opening programs will be
slightly slower.

So I tried using the setting to let Windows manage the files, which
changes the Registry key
(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVersion\OptimalLayout)
back to OptimalLayout=1, however that still does not let XP clean up the
folder, partial defrag does not start to work without reinstalling
Windows again.

Stand alone computer - let perfect disk manage all files


This is the odd part. I have PerfectDisk in the same config as this
user, yet his computer seems to manage the prefetch folder just fine
whereas mine just keeps adding more and more PF files without cleaning
up the older entries.

I've tried uninstalling PerfectDisk, but whatever changes it makes, are
not undone by removing PD. Only a clean install of Windows seems to fix
it.

I posted this in hopes that Greg Hayes of Raxco Software would see it,
but apparently he hasn't posted here in about a month, nor in any other
group in over two weeks according to Google.

Perhaps he's on holidays...
  #70  
Old April 18th 04, 02:14 PM
Bill
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Posts: n/a
Default Perfectdisk Stops Prefetch - Greg Hayes?

R. McCarty wrote:

I missed the original post, so I'm speculating here.


No problem, I'll repeat info as needed.

Perfect Disk doesn't factor into the Prefetch operations,
it only uses the Layout.Ini file to do the file placement.


That's what it's supposed to do, but it's doing something to prefetch on
my computer as it's been almost two weeks now and I have dozens of
obsolete PF files in the prefetch folder which are up to two weeks old.

The .pf files are occasionally purged by Windows XP.


Yes, XP takes care of the folder just fine and has done so for the last
two years when I just used MS Defrag.

However, as soon as PerfectDisk was installed XP stopped cleaning up the
folder.

To give you some background, I first installed PerfectDisk v6 almost a
month ago to try it out. It seemed to work great, defragging very well,
offline defrags put the MFT and Pagefile in good spots, etc.

But a week after installing it, I glanced at the prefetch folder and
noticed that old files were in there dating back to the day I installed
PerfectDisk. Some PF that pointed to PD setup and dozens of instances
of Rundll32 files. That's when I realized something was wrong with
prefetching.

So I checked all the settings in PD and then went looking for info on
prefetching. I read everything I could find on the net, including
Raxco's website.

I thought maybe it was a fluke, so I did a second clean install of XP,
updates, and then installed PD and some usual programs like Agent,
Eudora, etc. After a week, same thing - XP stops managing the prefetch
folder and I'm forced to clean up the folder myself.

So I tried another clean install of XP, updates, and install PD and some
programs. Used different PD setting this time, having PD manage all of
the Layout.ini files instead of the default. Once again after a week,
same thing - XP stops managing the prefetch folder.

Now I did read a thread about PD not disabling prefetch:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...isk%2Bprefetch

"PerfectDisk doesn't disable prefetch. What PD does is to disable the
partial defrag that WinXP is performing approximately every three days
to attempt to make sure that the files in the prefetch folder are
contiguous."

And that seems to be what is happening on my system. However, if PD
stops the 3 day partial defrag, and XP's prefetch just keeps building
more and more PF files, then there is an obvious issue here with the
prefetch folder growing out of control.

Perhaps if PD would clear the Prefetch folder and change the prefetching
to "boot files" ONLY in the Registry
(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contr ol\Session
Manager\Memory Management\PrefetchParameters) to Enableprefetcher=2 then
it would stop building PF files and just keep the Layout and
NTOSBOOT-BOODFAAD files, then it would do its job.

But while this keeps the prefetch folder nice and tidy, it effectively
reduces performance because prefetching of applications is no longer in
effect. Boot times will be the same, but opening programs will be
slightly slower.

So I tried using the setting to let Windows manage the files, which
changes the Registry key
(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVersion\OptimalLayout)
back to OptimalLayout=1, however that still does not let XP clean up the
folder, partial defrag does not start to work without reinstalling
Windows again.

Stand alone computer - let perfect disk manage all files


This is the odd part. I have PerfectDisk in the same config as this
user, yet his computer seems to manage the prefetch folder just fine
whereas mine just keeps adding more and more PF files without cleaning
up the older entries.

I've tried uninstalling PerfectDisk, but whatever changes it makes, are
not undone by removing PD. Only a clean install of Windows seems to fix
it.

I posted this in hopes that Greg Hayes of Raxco Software would see it,
but apparently he hasn't posted here in about a month, nor in any other
group in over two weeks according to Google.

Perhaps he's on holidays...
  #71  
Old April 18th 04, 02:14 PM
Richard Urban
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Posts: n/a
Default Perfectdisk Stops Prefetch - Greg Hayes?

Here is what I have done Bill.

1. I install PerfectDisk.
2. Using "prefetch Clean and Control" (3rd party utility), I purge my
prefetch folder. I also make certain that the prefetch parameter is set for
boot files AND programs.
3. I reboot to set the parameter!
4. I open each, and every, one of my "main" programs - those I consider
important. This is to get the prefetch info into the folder. I also reboot
numerous times to be certain that "all" of the boot info is placed into the
folder.
5. After about 5 boots, I change the prefetch parameters to "boot only"
6. I reboot one more time to lock the parameter.

My prefetch folder "never changes" after this - and I like it that way. All
my boot info is there and only those programs I choose to use frequently
puts info there. Now I just stop worrying about the damn thing, as it has
been proven to me that it doesn't change - even after 4-5 months.

--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

"Bill" wrote in message ...
R. McCarty wrote:

I missed the original post, so I'm speculating here.


No problem, I'll repeat info as needed.

Perfect Disk doesn't factor into the Prefetch operations,
it only uses the Layout.Ini file to do the file placement.


That's what it's supposed to do, but it's doing something to prefetch on
my computer as it's been almost two weeks now and I have dozens of
obsolete PF files in the prefetch folder which are up to two weeks old.

The .pf files are occasionally purged by Windows XP.


Yes, XP takes care of the folder just fine and has done so for the last
two years when I just used MS Defrag.

However, as soon as PerfectDisk was installed XP stopped cleaning up the
folder.

To give you some background, I first installed PerfectDisk v6 almost a
month ago to try it out. It seemed to work great, defragging very well,
offline defrags put the MFT and Pagefile in good spots, etc.

But a week after installing it, I glanced at the prefetch folder and
noticed that old files were in there dating back to the day I installed
PerfectDisk. Some PF that pointed to PD setup and dozens of instances
of Rundll32 files. That's when I realized something was wrong with
prefetching.

So I checked all the settings in PD and then went looking for info on
prefetching. I read everything I could find on the net, including
Raxco's website.

I thought maybe it was a fluke, so I did a second clean install of XP,
updates, and then installed PD and some usual programs like Agent,
Eudora, etc. After a week, same thing - XP stops managing the prefetch
folder and I'm forced to clean up the folder myself.

So I tried another clean install of XP, updates, and install PD and some
programs. Used different PD setting this time, having PD manage all of
the Layout.ini files instead of the default. Once again after a week,
same thing - XP stops managing the prefetch folder.

Now I did read a thread about PD not disabling prefetch:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...isk%2Bprefetch

"PerfectDisk doesn't disable prefetch. What PD does is to disable the
partial defrag that WinXP is performing approximately every three days
to attempt to make sure that the files in the prefetch folder are
contiguous."

And that seems to be what is happening on my system. However, if PD
stops the 3 day partial defrag, and XP's prefetch just keeps building
more and more PF files, then there is an obvious issue here with the
prefetch folder growing out of control.

Perhaps if PD would clear the Prefetch folder and change the prefetching
to "boot files" ONLY in the Registry
(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contr ol\Session
Manager\Memory Management\PrefetchParameters) to Enableprefetcher=2 then
it would stop building PF files and just keep the Layout and
NTOSBOOT-BOODFAAD files, then it would do its job.

But while this keeps the prefetch folder nice and tidy, it effectively
reduces performance because prefetching of applications is no longer in
effect. Boot times will be the same, but opening programs will be
slightly slower.

So I tried using the setting to let Windows manage the files, which
changes the Registry key
(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVersion\OptimalLayout)
back to OptimalLayout=1, however that still does not let XP clean up the
folder, partial defrag does not start to work without reinstalling
Windows again.

Stand alone computer - let perfect disk manage all files


This is the odd part. I have PerfectDisk in the same config as this
user, yet his computer seems to manage the prefetch folder just fine
whereas mine just keeps adding more and more PF files without cleaning
up the older entries.

I've tried uninstalling PerfectDisk, but whatever changes it makes, are
not undone by removing PD. Only a clean install of Windows seems to fix
it.

I posted this in hopes that Greg Hayes of Raxco Software would see it,
but apparently he hasn't posted here in about a month, nor in any other
group in over two weeks according to Google.

Perhaps he's on holidays...



  #72  
Old April 18th 04, 02:14 PM
Richard Urban
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Posts: n/a
Default Perfectdisk Stops Prefetch - Greg Hayes?

Here is what I have done Bill.

1. I install PerfectDisk.
2. Using "prefetch Clean and Control" (3rd party utility), I purge my
prefetch folder. I also make certain that the prefetch parameter is set for
boot files AND programs.
3. I reboot to set the parameter!
4. I open each, and every, one of my "main" programs - those I consider
important. This is to get the prefetch info into the folder. I also reboot
numerous times to be certain that "all" of the boot info is placed into the
folder.
5. After about 5 boots, I change the prefetch parameters to "boot only"
6. I reboot one more time to lock the parameter.

My prefetch folder "never changes" after this - and I like it that way. All
my boot info is there and only those programs I choose to use frequently
puts info there. Now I just stop worrying about the damn thing, as it has
been proven to me that it doesn't change - even after 4-5 months.

--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

"Bill" wrote in message ...
R. McCarty wrote:

I missed the original post, so I'm speculating here.


No problem, I'll repeat info as needed.

Perfect Disk doesn't factor into the Prefetch operations,
it only uses the Layout.Ini file to do the file placement.


That's what it's supposed to do, but it's doing something to prefetch on
my computer as it's been almost two weeks now and I have dozens of
obsolete PF files in the prefetch folder which are up to two weeks old.

The .pf files are occasionally purged by Windows XP.


Yes, XP takes care of the folder just fine and has done so for the last
two years when I just used MS Defrag.

However, as soon as PerfectDisk was installed XP stopped cleaning up the
folder.

To give you some background, I first installed PerfectDisk v6 almost a
month ago to try it out. It seemed to work great, defragging very well,
offline defrags put the MFT and Pagefile in good spots, etc.

But a week after installing it, I glanced at the prefetch folder and
noticed that old files were in there dating back to the day I installed
PerfectDisk. Some PF that pointed to PD setup and dozens of instances
of Rundll32 files. That's when I realized something was wrong with
prefetching.

So I checked all the settings in PD and then went looking for info on
prefetching. I read everything I could find on the net, including
Raxco's website.

I thought maybe it was a fluke, so I did a second clean install of XP,
updates, and then installed PD and some usual programs like Agent,
Eudora, etc. After a week, same thing - XP stops managing the prefetch
folder and I'm forced to clean up the folder myself.

So I tried another clean install of XP, updates, and install PD and some
programs. Used different PD setting this time, having PD manage all of
the Layout.ini files instead of the default. Once again after a week,
same thing - XP stops managing the prefetch folder.

Now I did read a thread about PD not disabling prefetch:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...isk%2Bprefetch

"PerfectDisk doesn't disable prefetch. What PD does is to disable the
partial defrag that WinXP is performing approximately every three days
to attempt to make sure that the files in the prefetch folder are
contiguous."

And that seems to be what is happening on my system. However, if PD
stops the 3 day partial defrag, and XP's prefetch just keeps building
more and more PF files, then there is an obvious issue here with the
prefetch folder growing out of control.

Perhaps if PD would clear the Prefetch folder and change the prefetching
to "boot files" ONLY in the Registry
(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contr ol\Session
Manager\Memory Management\PrefetchParameters) to Enableprefetcher=2 then
it would stop building PF files and just keep the Layout and
NTOSBOOT-BOODFAAD files, then it would do its job.

But while this keeps the prefetch folder nice and tidy, it effectively
reduces performance because prefetching of applications is no longer in
effect. Boot times will be the same, but opening programs will be
slightly slower.

So I tried using the setting to let Windows manage the files, which
changes the Registry key
(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVersion\OptimalLayout)
back to OptimalLayout=1, however that still does not let XP clean up the
folder, partial defrag does not start to work without reinstalling
Windows again.

Stand alone computer - let perfect disk manage all files


This is the odd part. I have PerfectDisk in the same config as this
user, yet his computer seems to manage the prefetch folder just fine
whereas mine just keeps adding more and more PF files without cleaning
up the older entries.

I've tried uninstalling PerfectDisk, but whatever changes it makes, are
not undone by removing PD. Only a clean install of Windows seems to fix
it.

I posted this in hopes that Greg Hayes of Raxco Software would see it,
but apparently he hasn't posted here in about a month, nor in any other
group in over two weeks according to Google.

Perhaps he's on holidays...



  #73  
Old April 18th 04, 05:36 PM
Bill
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Default Perfectdisk Stops Prefetch - Greg Hayes?

Richard Urban wrote:

Here is what I have done Bill.

1. I install PerfectDisk.
2. Using "prefetch Clean and Control" (3rd party utility), I purge my
prefetch folder. I also make certain that the prefetch parameter is set for
boot files AND programs.
3. I reboot to set the parameter!
4. I open each, and every, one of my "main" programs - those I consider
important. This is to get the prefetch info into the folder. I also reboot
numerous times to be certain that "all" of the boot info is placed into the
folder.
5. After about 5 boots, I change the prefetch parameters to "boot only"
6. I reboot one more time to lock the parameter.

My prefetch folder "never changes" after this - and I like it that way. All
my boot info is there and only those programs I choose to use frequently
puts info there. Now I just stop worrying about the damn thing, as it has
been proven to me that it doesn't change - even after 4-5 months.


Thanks for the suggestion.

That may be a good solution for those who want to force PerfectDisk and
XP to work together. I've even considered doing something similar
myself, manually adjusting the settings in XP's registry.

I'm not sure if XP actually uses the prefetch data to load those
programs, though it probably does.

Two problems exist as well, the first is the dynamic nature of
prefetching is lost, perhaps we can live with that. The second is the
fact that updating a program requires you to go through the same
procedure for each and every program change, which relies on the first
issue to take care of itself.

I'd prefer not to have to do that.
  #74  
Old April 27th 04, 01:40 PM
Al Dykes
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Default Perfectdisk Stops Prefetch - Greg Hayes?

In article ,
Richard Urban wrote:
I have been using PerfectDisk for about a year now. My prefetch folder is
maintained as it should be. I know this is not much help, but..........

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Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

"Bill" wrote in message news

Ok, this is an annoying problem.

I've been trying for three weeks to get Perfectdisk v6 to work with XP's
prefetching. I've reinstalled Windows XP three times now, and every
single time, XP stops cleaning up the prefetch folder.

Perfectdisk seems to work fine doing its thing, and XP works fine, aside
from this issue. But no matter what settings I try, they will not work
together to let Windows manage the prefetch files, regardless of the PD
setting.

XP just stops cleaning up the prefetch folder like it should every three
days. Instead what happens is obsolete files do not get removed, and the
folder just continues to grow in size. This happens from the moment I
install PD.

I've Googled for info, and I've checked the Registry settings to confirm
that they are correct, but it still doesn't work. I noticed that PD does
change the registry back and forth if I change the settings in PD. If I
set PD to manage the files, they get moved by PD as expected. But then
prefetch does not maintain the folder. If I set PD to let Windows manage
the files, then it skips the prefetch files, but still the folder does
not maintain itself. Note that I have not changed any of the services
and the Task Scheduler is working fine.

I currently have PD installed...I re-installed XP last Monday and XP
still has NOT cleaned up the prefetch folder. I have dozens of PF files
that are obsolete, dated all the way back to when I installed SP1 on
Monday evening at 17:50 hours. Normally XP would have cleaned up the
folder at least twice now.

I've read numerous posts from a Raxco rep named Greg Hayes, and I hope
he reads this, but unfortunately his suggestions do not work. I can't
imagine I've missed a setting, not three times in a row.

I'd really like to get it to work as I like what PD does with the
pagefile, MFT, etc. And it's faster than the XP defrag'er and is easily
scheduled. But unless the prefetch folder is maintained as it is when I
don't install PD, it's not much use to me.

Thanks for any help provided.





I assume you're talking about \WINDOWS\prefetch.

FWIW I never bothered to look at the cache before. I just looked and
it's 3.5MB. Since then it's been a month since I defraged.)

I've used PD on my XP system for over a year, with the defaults. I do
standalone defrag after major software install/reinstall and
a normal one when I've moved a lot of big files around.

This machine is a not-too-speedy midrange laptop that can use all the
help it can get for disk speed. I run really fat software like
OpenOffice. I run _lots_ of different programs on most days.

BTW; I set swap space to a fixed size (Min=Max in control panel, based
on what I know about the applications I run) and then do a standalone
defrag to get it into one segment. That never has to be done again.

IMHO If a disk has lots of free space then anal defraging becomes
less important to a decent achine and average applications.

I'm not sure that actuall buys me anything in practical terms. I open
lots of applications and leave them open, for days. The cache should
only help when starting a program for the first time.




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Old April 27th 04, 01:40 PM
Al Dykes
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Default Perfectdisk Stops Prefetch - Greg Hayes?

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Richard Urban wrote:
I have been using PerfectDisk for about a year now. My prefetch folder is
maintained as it should be. I know this is not much help, but..........

--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

"Bill" wrote in message news

Ok, this is an annoying problem.

I've been trying for three weeks to get Perfectdisk v6 to work with XP's
prefetching. I've reinstalled Windows XP three times now, and every
single time, XP stops cleaning up the prefetch folder.

Perfectdisk seems to work fine doing its thing, and XP works fine, aside
from this issue. But no matter what settings I try, they will not work
together to let Windows manage the prefetch files, regardless of the PD
setting.

XP just stops cleaning up the prefetch folder like it should every three
days. Instead what happens is obsolete files do not get removed, and the
folder just continues to grow in size. This happens from the moment I
install PD.

I've Googled for info, and I've checked the Registry settings to confirm
that they are correct, but it still doesn't work. I noticed that PD does
change the registry back and forth if I change the settings in PD. If I
set PD to manage the files, they get moved by PD as expected. But then
prefetch does not maintain the folder. If I set PD to let Windows manage
the files, then it skips the prefetch files, but still the folder does
not maintain itself. Note that I have not changed any of the services
and the Task Scheduler is working fine.

I currently have PD installed...I re-installed XP last Monday and XP
still has NOT cleaned up the prefetch folder. I have dozens of PF files
that are obsolete, dated all the way back to when I installed SP1 on
Monday evening at 17:50 hours. Normally XP would have cleaned up the
folder at least twice now.

I've read numerous posts from a Raxco rep named Greg Hayes, and I hope
he reads this, but unfortunately his suggestions do not work. I can't
imagine I've missed a setting, not three times in a row.

I'd really like to get it to work as I like what PD does with the
pagefile, MFT, etc. And it's faster than the XP defrag'er and is easily
scheduled. But unless the prefetch folder is maintained as it is when I
don't install PD, it's not much use to me.

Thanks for any help provided.





I assume you're talking about \WINDOWS\prefetch.

FWIW I never bothered to look at the cache before. I just looked and
it's 3.5MB. Since then it's been a month since I defraged.)

I've used PD on my XP system for over a year, with the defaults. I do
standalone defrag after major software install/reinstall and
a normal one when I've moved a lot of big files around.

This machine is a not-too-speedy midrange laptop that can use all the
help it can get for disk speed. I run really fat software like
OpenOffice. I run _lots_ of different programs on most days.

BTW; I set swap space to a fixed size (Min=Max in control panel, based
on what I know about the applications I run) and then do a standalone
defrag to get it into one segment. That never has to be done again.

IMHO If a disk has lots of free space then anal defraging becomes
less important to a decent achine and average applications.

I'm not sure that actuall buys me anything in practical terms. I open
lots of applications and leave them open, for days. The cache should
only help when starting a program for the first time.




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Al Dykes
-----------
adykes at p a n i x . c o m
 




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