Worm never seen before

On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 20:39:06 +0200, "cquirke (MVP Win9x)"
wrote:

On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 10:46:08 +0000, Greg Hennessy
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 23:17:53 -0000, "Jason Edwards"

But what they don't offer, as far as I'm aware, is a replacement XP install
CD for those people who want to reinstall XP.

For anyone who owns a cd burner and the original media, creating a new
slipstreamed sp2 install cd is trivial.

Not as trivial as it should be. If an SP breaks the installation CD,
as SP2 does,

'breaks the installation CD' in what manner ?

Bearing in mind that that I have a hand crafted slipstreamed SP2 CD in my
hand that works perfectly.


If it's so trivial, perhaps you can explain exctly how to make a
slipstreamed OS CDR in your reply? Or is it non-trivial enough that
you'd rather point to a URL rather than type it out?


Oh do dry up you posturing trout.


greg

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cquirke (MVP Win9x) wrote:
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 10:46:08 +0000, Greg Hennessy

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 23:17:53 -0000, "Jason Edwards"


But what they don't offer, as far as I'm aware, is a replacement XP install
CD for those people who want to reinstall XP.


For anyone who owns a cd burner and the original media, creating a new
slipstreamed sp2 install cd is trivial.


Not as trivial as it should be. If an SP breaks the installation CD,
as SP2 does, it should include a skippable step in the installation
process to create that slipstreamed replacement CDR.

If it's so trivial, perhaps you can explain exctly how to make a
slipstreamed OS CDR in your reply? Or is it non-trivial enough that
you'd rather point to a URL rather than type it out?



Google is your friend

http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&hl=en&q=slipstream+SP2+XP&btnG=Goo gle+Search

of course with any info from the internet you'll need to choose a source
you trust and that you can understand.


John

Greg Hennessy wrote:
On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 20:39:06 +0200, "cquirke (MVP Win9x)"
wrote:


On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 10:46:08 +0000, Greg Hennessy

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 23:17:53 -0000, "Jason Edwards"

But what they don't offer, as far as I'm aware, is a replacement XP install
CD for those people who want to reinstall XP.

For anyone who owns a cd burner and the original media, creating a new
slipstreamed sp2 install cd is trivial.

Not as trivial as it should be. If an SP breaks the installation CD,
as SP2 does,


'breaks the installation CD' in what manner ?

ISO 9660 specifies a maximum path depth of 8, slipstreamed SP2 is 9
directories deep.

Bearing in mind that that I have a hand crafted slipstreamed SP2 CD in my
hand that works perfectly.

Made with burning software that ignores the standard, either by default
or at the user's request.

If it's so trivial, perhaps you can explain exctly how to make a
slipstreamed OS CDR in your reply? Or is it non-trivial enough that
you'd rather point to a URL rather than type it out?

http://www.theeldergeek.com/slipstreamed_xpsp2_cd.htm

Oh do dry up you posturing trout.


greg

On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 11:35:41 -0500, Triffid wrote:


Not as trivial as it should be. If an SP breaks the installation CD,
as SP2 does,


'breaks the installation CD' in what manner ?

ISO 9660 specifies a maximum path depth of 8, slipstreamed SP2 is 9
directories deep.

That would be

I386\ASMS\52\policy\msft\windows\networking\dxmrtp

So ? it works, it installs.
Therefore it doesnt *break* the installation CD.

Bearing in mind that that I have a hand crafted slipstreamed SP2 CD in my
hand that works perfectly.

Made with burning software that ignores the standard,

Again big deal, Nero did what it was supposed to do.

I dont hear anyone bitching about overburning and standards compliance with
iso9660/orange book.

either by default
or at the user's request.

It works, it can be read, booted and installed successfully.

And for the truly clueless the likes of autostreamer turns an easy task
into a no brainer.


greg


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Reinstall again.... WITHOUT your network cable plugged in.
I have seen more than once, XP machines getting whacked by malicious
code before the install was complete. Download SP2 before you install
and burn it to a cd.. Install it BEFORE you go online, along with your
AV software. Alternatively, pick up a consumer grade hardware
firewall... even an el-cheapo netgear/linksys router with packet
filtering will do the trick and give you some protection during the
install & patching process.

G'luck

-- Hey.. I almost got thru an entire reply without saying "install
Linux" grin

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:56:32 +0100, "I.L.B."
wrote:

Thanks guys, but I just ran the scanners you told me with no results....

This is really strange: It keeps happening!. It happened just after
re-install Windows XP, when trying to update it to SP1 and SP2.... that's
when the outbound bursts began. I can turn off the network connection, I
restart it again... then after a few seconds, the bursts of outgoing packets
start... when running NETSTAT, I see first, an ESTABLISHED connection to
"unknown.sagonet.net:6667" (to an IRC port!!!), then it comes the stream of
outbound packets, from 3000 to 4000 ports and so on... with no end!!. In the
meanwhile I have no access to web surf nor anything regular, just bursts of
TCP packets flying away from my computer.

And it happened just when I re-installed XP, so ain't got time to download
any virus or worm or anything.

If that sounds familiar to any of you, please help me. Thanks...



"I.L.B." wrote in message
...
Hi all ;

I am just experiencing a strange kind of infection I don't know wether is
a
new worm or not, as I never seen it before. The situation is next:

- I am running a computer with both Win98 and XP installed.
- My Win98 session works OK
- When I start an XP session, and I do activate my network connection... I
start to see a very heavy traffic on the LEDs of my hub/router ADSL. The
activity light is flickering like crazy... what happens??
- I check the Status of the connection, and I see dozens of outbound
packets
per second, and almost nothing incoming. Strange...
- I run NETSTAT to see what it happens. I see a LOT of outbound TCP
connections as "SYN_SENT" from a series of ports from 3400 to 3600 and so
on... no way to stop it !. All of these netstat entries end at some
strange
IPs at EPMAP port.
- I run TaskManager, and I see a lot of started process of "SVCHOST" and
"IEEXPLORE" (about 5 or 6 instances of each one started).

I just checked for Sasser, Welchia worms, but the tools said I don't have
these worms on my computer...

Any ideas? Thanks !!

On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 19:07:37 +0000, Greg Hennessy
On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 20:39:06 +0200, "cquirke (MVP Win9x)"

For anyone who owns a cd burner and the original media, creating a new
slipstreamed sp2 install cd is trivial.

Not as trivial as it should be. If an SP breaks the installation CD,
as SP2 does,

'breaks the installation CD' in what manner ?

Bearing in mind that that I have a hand crafted slipstreamed SP2 CD in my
hand that works perfectly.

Bearing in mind that other users do NOT have a working slipstreamed
installation disk pop out of thier hand automatically. What thy do
have - and ALL they have - is the pre-SP2 installation CD that will
not do a repair install and may not run RC either.

My challenge - which you ducked - stands: If it's so "trivial" to make
your own slipstreamed installation CDR, then please do tell us how.



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On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 00:47:31 +0200, "cquirke (MVP Win9x)"
wrote:


Bearing in mind that that I have a hand crafted slipstreamed SP2 CD in my
hand that works perfectly.

Bearing in mind that other users do NOT have a working slipstreamed
installation disk pop out of thier hand automatically.

Aww bless, a descent into fallacy,
Note what I originally said

"For anyone who owns a CD burner and the original media, creating a new
slipstreamed sp2 install CD is trivial. "

We are not discussing 'other users'. We are clearly talking about users
with a CD burner and the original media.

The act of owning a CD burner usually implies a certain level of 'clue'
w.r.t the creation of CDs from scratch.

Said level of clue would also imply that they have the wherewithal to
utilise www.google.com with the expression

winxp sp2 slipstream

Yielding a search URL of

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...sp2+slipstream

where at least the 1st dozen or so links returned go into explicit detail
of how to build a hand rolled SP2 installation CD using the original media
and a CD burner. (which was the topic being discussed)

Just for the record I shall give a Hat Tip to Paul Thorrott of
www.winsupersite.com for a clearly documented and easy to follow method
which I've utilised previously.


Now I know that may be a little too advanced for an (MVP Win9x).

What thy do
have - and ALL they have - is the pre-SP2 installation CD that will
not do a repair install and may not run RC either.

Again you wilfully ignore what I wrote previously.

"For anyone who owns a CD burner and the original media, creating a new
slipstreamed sp2 install CD is trivial. "

Note the part of the sentence before the comma.


My challenge - which you ducked - stands: If it's so "trivial" to make
your own slipstreamed installation CDR, then please do tell us how.


I suggest you read what I wrote in

Message-ID:

In particular pay close attention to the last sentence.


Please continue with this asinine attempt at a ****ing contest, its most
amusing watching someone with a bladder the size of a walnut in action.



greg

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On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 10:31:18 +0000, Greg Hennessy
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 00:47:31 +0200, "cquirke (MVP Win9x)"

Bearing in mind that that I have a hand crafted slipstreamed SP2 CD in my
hand that works perfectly.

Bearing in mind that other users do NOT have a working slipstreamed
installation disk pop out of thier hand automatically.

"For anyone who owns a CD burner and the original media, creating a new
slipstreamed sp2 install CD is trivial. "

We are not discussing 'other users'. We are clearly talking about users
with a CD burner and the original media.

OK so far.

The act of owning a CD burner usually implies a certain level of 'clue'

False. Most new PCs ship with CD writers, and most users end up using
XP's awful built-in CD writing "support".

In 1995 or so, when CD writers were slow, costly, and prone to kicking
coasters, you'd be right. But they are standard equipment today.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...sp2+slipstream

where at least the 1st dozen or so links returned go into explicit detail
of how to build a hand rolled SP2 installation CD using the original media
and a CD burner. (which was the topic being discussed)

Just for the record I shall give a Hat Tip to Paul Thorrott of
www.winsupersite.com for a clearly documented and easy to follow method
which I've utilised previously.

Again you wilfully ignore what I wrote previously.

No, I'm focusing on your asinine claim that it is "trivial" to
generate a slipstreamed OS CD. I see it's not so trivial that you can
explain exactly how to do it here, without pointing to web pages ar
mumbling about Google. The reason being that what you have to know to
do this, is not trivial enough to write up in one paragraph.

"For anyone who owns a CD burner and the original media, creating a new
slipstreamed sp2 install CD is trivial. "

Note the part of the sentence before the comma.

I do. You're still wrong :-)



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On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 16:23:19 +0200, "cquirke (MVP Win9x)"
wrote:


The act of owning a CD burner usually implies a certain level of 'clue'

False. Most new PCs ship with CD writers,

Another false premise.

Most new PCs do *not* ship with CD writers.

There is no corporate I know of who would accept desktop PCs from Dell,
HPAQ or anyone else with CDRW as standard.

[equivocating nonsense binned unread]
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"Greg Hennessy" wrote:
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 16:23:19 +0200, "cquirke (MVP Win9x)"
wrote:

The act of owning a CD burner usually implies a certain level of 'clue'

False. Most new PCs ship with CD writers,

Another false premise.

Most new PCs do *not* ship with CD writers.

There is no corporate I know of who would accept desktop PCs from Dell,
HPAQ or anyone else with CDRW as standard.

That's funny. I work for a corporate which has recently renewed all
its PCs (several thousand seats). All come with CD writers.

"Ant" wrote:

"Greg Hennessy" wrote:
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 16:23:19 +0200, "cquirke (MVP Win9x)"
wrote:

The act of owning a CD burner usually implies a certain level of 'clue'

False. Most new PCs ship with CD writers,

Another false premise.

Most new PCs do *not* ship with CD writers.

There is no corporate I know of who would accept desktop PCs from Dell,
HPAQ or anyone else with CDRW as standard.

That's funny. I work for a corporate which has recently renewed all
its PCs (several thousand seats). All come with CD writers.

I suppose you don't work for a bank! ;-)

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 11:13:04 +0200, Zvi Netiv
wrote:


That's funny. I work for a corporate which has recently renewed all
its PCs (several thousand seats). All come with CD writers.

I suppose you don't work for a bank! ;-)

Or any company with a with properly run procurement dept.
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"Greg Hennessy" wrote:

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 11:13:04 +0200, Zvi Netiv
wrote:

That's funny. I work for a corporate which has recently renewed all
its PCs (several thousand seats). All come with CD writers.

I suppose you don't work for a bank! ;-)

Scientific R&D.

Or any company with a with properly run procurement dept.

What do you mean by that? Most of us require CDRW; it's the modern
equivalent of a floppy disk.

On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 13:02:06 -0000, "Ant" wrote:


Or any company with a with properly run procurement dept.

What do you mean by that?

A CDRW is 3+ times the price of a plain CD/DVD player if not more.

Now multiply that by a new desktop rollout across a large organisation....

Most of us require CDRW; it's the modern
equivalent of a floppy disk.

'Most of us' (i.e average desktop PC users in a corporate environment) have
zero requirement for a floppy disk, cdrw or USB flash memory.

'Most of us' have absolutely no business transferring files in that manner
when properly screened and managed alternatives are there to be used.


They are all security hazards and eminently preventable, be it through
removal or application of policy.



greg



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"Greg Hennessy" wrote:

On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 13:02:06 -0000, "Ant" wrote:

Or any company with a with properly run procurement dept.

What do you mean by that?

A CDRW is 3+ times the price of a plain CD/DVD player if not more.

Now multiply that by a new desktop rollout across a large organisation....

We got a good deal because of the large number of units.

Most of us require CDRW; it's the modern
equivalent of a floppy disk.

'Most of us' (i.e average desktop PC users in a corporate environment) have
zero requirement for a floppy disk, cdrw or USB flash memory.

Most of *us* are not average users. Most are scientists, engineers,
and computing experts. Most of us need to be able to produce
documents, presentations, software, etc. for demonstration, or
distribution to customers and others in our field(s). I did say we
are a scientific research & development company. We don't have a
single product, but have many specialists producing diverse
solutions to various problems for a variety of customers.

'Most of us' have absolutely no business transferring files in that manner
when properly screened and managed alternatives are there to be used.

Most of us do, most of us have clue, and all of us are trusted to
follow the security procedures, about which we are reminded
frequently. There are penalties for not doing so.

They are all security hazards and eminently preventable, be it through
removal or application of policy.

Of course there's a risk, but this is one we have to manage.