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  #1  
Old May 14th 05, 11:40 PM
David Sewell
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Default Win xp oem activation hits me clear as mud!

I purchased a win xp home oem disk, at only just pennies short of retail
edition price, from the supplier that supplied me with items I used to build
my own system. I already have win 95 and win 98 upgrade purchases from now
dead previous pc's. So, if my motherboard fails, am I right in assuming I
am supposed to buy a new motherboard and another copy of win xp, thereby
keeping up Bill (love him to bits) Gates to the life style he has become
accustomed, just so that I can carry on using a single system that ain't
moved anywhere and is only used by the single self same person, whose fault
cannot be blamed if the motherboard decides it wants to go to motherboard
heaven?

Thanks,
David


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Old May 14th 05, 11:51 PM
Keith AH
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No you are incorrect

"David Sewell" wrote in message
...
I purchased a win xp home oem disk, at only just pennies short of retail
edition price, from the supplier that supplied me with items I used to
build
my own system. I already have win 95 and win 98 upgrade purchases from
now
dead previous pc's. So, if my motherboard fails, am I right in assuming I
am supposed to buy a new motherboard and another copy of win xp, thereby
keeping up Bill (love him to bits) Gates to the life style he has become
accustomed, just so that I can carry on using a single system that ain't
moved anywhere and is only used by the single self same person, whose
fault
cannot be blamed if the motherboard decides it wants to go to motherboard
heaven?

Thanks,
David




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Old May 14th 05, 11:55 PM
kurttrail
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David Sewell wrote:
I purchased a win xp home oem disk, at only just pennies short of
retail edition price, from the supplier that supplied me with items I
used to build my own system. I already have win 95 and win 98
upgrade purchases from now dead previous pc's. So, if my motherboard
fails, am I right in assuming I am supposed to buy a new motherboard
and another copy of win xp,


Only if you are a sucker.

thereby keeping up Bill (love him to
bits) Gates to the life style he has become accustomed, just so that
I can carry on using a single system that ain't moved anywhere and is
only used by the single self same person, whose fault cannot be
blamed if the motherboard decides it wants to go to motherboard
heaven?


MS can disappear off the face of the earth today, and there is nothing
that could put a dent in the life style that Billy G. has become
accustomed.

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Old May 14th 05, 11:59 PM
Carey Frisch [MVP]
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You paid less for an OEM version and as a consequence you do not
receive the benefits of a Retail Version. OEM versions of Windows
XP are non-transferrable and if your motherboard dies, so does your
OEM license. Microsoft does not sell OEM versions to end-users,
only Retail Versions.

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"David Sewell" wrote:

| I purchased a win xp home oem disk, at only just pennies short of retail
| edition price, from the supplier that supplied me with items I used to build
| my own system. I already have win 95 and win 98 upgrade purchases from now
| dead previous pc's. So, if my motherboard fails, am I right in assuming I
| am supposed to buy a new motherboard and another copy of win xp, thereby
| keeping up Bill (love him to bits) Gates to the life style he has become
| accustomed, just so that I can carry on using a single system that ain't
| moved anywhere and is only used by the single self same person, whose fault
| cannot be blamed if the motherboard decides it wants to go to motherboard
| heaven?
|
| Thanks,
| David

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Old May 14th 05, 11:59 PM
David Sewell
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Please, but you might tell me where I'm incorrect thanks, sir...
Genuine thanks from the UK!

David


"Keith AH" wrote in message
...
No you are incorrect

"David Sewell" wrote in message
...
I purchased a win xp home oem disk, at only just pennies short of retail
edition price, from the supplier that supplied me with items I used to
build
my own system. I already have win 95 and win 98 upgrade purchases from
now
dead previous pc's. So, if my motherboard fails, am I right in assuming

I
am supposed to buy a new motherboard and another copy of win xp, thereby
keeping up Bill (love him to bits) Gates to the life style he has become
accustomed, just so that I can carry on using a single system that ain't
moved anywhere and is only used by the single self same person, whose
fault
cannot be blamed if the motherboard decides it wants to go to

motherboard
heaven?

Thanks,
David






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Old May 15th 05, 12:03 AM
David Sewell
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You sound like a Linux troll!

Not much wrong with that!


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Old May 15th 05, 12:07 AM
T. Waters
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I am not sure what MS expects you to do (we debate this constantly here),
but some of our MVP's do believe you should bury your XP with the dead MoBo.
However, you are in no way compelled to do this.
Recently, my motherboard died, and I decided to Clean Install my OEM XP
because of the new hardware and other issues. Activation was no problem
whatsoever. Activation of an OEM installation after the death of a MoBo has
never been a problem. At worst, a 5 minute phone call would be required.
Keep in mind that the information linking your software license with your
hardware is only kept on the MS servers for 120 days. After that, it's a
clean slate. Let your common sense be your guide.


"kurttrail" wrote in message
...
David Sewell wrote:
I purchased a win xp home oem disk, at only just pennies short of
retail edition price, from the supplier that supplied me with items I
used to build my own system. I already have win 95 and win 98
upgrade purchases from now dead previous pc's. So, if my motherboard
fails, am I right in assuming I am supposed to buy a new motherboard
and another copy of win xp,


Only if you are a sucker.

thereby keeping up Bill (love him to
bits) Gates to the life style he has become accustomed, just so that
I can carry on using a single system that ain't moved anywhere and is
only used by the single self same person, whose fault cannot be
blamed if the motherboard decides it wants to go to motherboard
heaven?


MS can disappear off the face of the earth today, and there is nothing
that could put a dent in the life style that Billy G. has become
accustomed.

--
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  #8  
Old May 15th 05, 12:07 AM
David Sewell
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ROBOT


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Old May 15th 05, 12:11 AM
T. Waters
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You got it.
Low-end Robot.

"David Sewell" wrote in message
...
ROBOT




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Old May 15th 05, 12:14 AM
kurttrail
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David Sewell wrote:
You sound like a Linux troll!

Not much wrong with that!


Except the LinTrolls don't like me! LOL!

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  #11  
Old May 15th 05, 12:15 AM
Keith AH
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This is copied direct from the OEM license

Generally, you may upgrade or replace all of the hardware components on your
customer's computer and the end user may maintain the license for the
original Microsoft® OEM operating system software, with the exception of an
upgrade or replacement of the motherboard.
An upgrade of the motherboard is considered to result in a "new personal
computer" to which Microsoft® OEM operating system software cannot be
transferred from another computer. If the motherboard is upgraded or
replaced, for reasons other than a defect, then a new computer has been
created and the license of new operating system software is required.
If the motherboard is replaced because it is defective, you do NOT need to
acquire a new operating system license for the PC.
The reason for this licensing rule primarily relates to the end-user license
agreement (EULA) and the support of the software covered by that EULA. The
EULA is a set of usage rights granted to the end-user by the PC manufacturer
and relates only to rights for that software as installed on that particular
PC. The System Builder is required to support the software on that
individual PC. Understanding that end users, over time, upgrade their PC
with different components, Microsoft needed to have one base component "left
standing" that would still define that original PC. Since the motherboard
contains the CPU and is the "heart and soul" of the PC, when the motherboard
is replaced (for reasons other than defect) a new PC is essentially created.
The original System Builder, therefore, can not be expected to support this
new PC that they in effect, did not manufacture.

"David Sewell" wrote in message
...
Please, but you might tell me where I'm incorrect thanks, sir...
Genuine thanks from the UK!

David


"Keith AH" wrote in message
...
No you are incorrect

"David Sewell" wrote in message
...
I purchased a win xp home oem disk, at only just pennies short of
retail
edition price, from the supplier that supplied me with items I used to
build
my own system. I already have win 95 and win 98 upgrade purchases from
now
dead previous pc's. So, if my motherboard fails, am I right in
assuming

I
am supposed to buy a new motherboard and another copy of win xp,
thereby
keeping up Bill (love him to bits) Gates to the life style he has
become
accustomed, just so that I can carry on using a single system that
ain't
moved anywhere and is only used by the single self same person, whose
fault
cannot be blamed if the motherboard decides it wants to go to

motherboard
heaven?

Thanks,
David








  #12  
Old May 15th 05, 12:23 AM
David Sewell
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I read it all. Hence my subject heading "Win xp oem activation hits me
clear as mud!"

Sorry, have you heard of the plain english society? Maybe there should (if
it does not already exist) be an American version....
Sorry guys........


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Old May 15th 05, 12:29 AM
Bruce Chambers
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David Sewell wrote:
I purchased a win xp home oem disk, at only just pennies short of retail
edition price, from the supplier that supplied me with items I used to build
my own system. I already have win 95 and win 98 upgrade purchases from now
dead previous pc's. So, if my motherboard fails, am I right in assuming I
am supposed to buy a new motherboard



If the original is out of warranty, certainly. Unless you know someone
that's giving away motherboards?



and another copy of win xp,



No, of course not. Where'd you ever get such a silly idea?


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Old May 15th 05, 12:36 AM
kurttrail
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Keith AH wrote:
This is copied direct from the OEM license

Generally, you may upgrade or replace all of the hardware components
on your customer's computer and the end user may maintain the license
for the original Microsoft® OEM operating system software, with the
exception of an upgrade or replacement of the motherboard.
An upgrade of the motherboard is considered to result in a "new
personal computer" to which Microsoft® OEM operating system software
cannot be transferred from another computer. If the motherboard is
upgraded or replaced, for reasons other than a defect, then a new
computer has been created and the license of new operating system
software is required. If the motherboard is replaced because it is
defective, you do NOT
need to acquire a new operating system license for the PC.
The reason for this licensing rule primarily relates to the end-user
license agreement (EULA) and the support of the software covered by
that EULA. The EULA is a set of usage rights granted to the end-user
by the PC manufacturer and relates only to rights for that software
as installed on that particular PC. The System Builder is required to
support the software on that individual PC. Understanding that end
users, over time, upgrade their PC with different components,
Microsoft needed to have one base component "left standing" that
would still define that original PC. Since the motherboard contains
the CPU and is the "heart and soul" of the PC, when the motherboard
is replaced (for reasons other than defect) a new PC is essentially
created. The original System Builder, therefore, can not be expected
to support this new PC that they in effect, did not manufacture.



Where did you get that, as it sounds like the System Builder License,
NOT the END USERS LICENSE AGREEMENT!

What is the difference?

The End User, like the OP, NEVER agreed to be held to the terms of the
SYSTEM BUILDERS LICENSE!

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Old May 15th 05, 12:43 AM
David Sewell
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I have a theory that the microsoft help staff are as punch drunk as the rest
of us.


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