Can't Get to MS Store!

I have Win 8 on a laptop with Classic Menu (and some other tricks --
eliminate the lock screen, boot to desktop, etc.)

I went to Metro and clicked Store. The tile appeared but after a few
seconds it disappeared!

1) What could be wrong? Is it that I am using a local account?

2) How can I get 8.1 without going to the store?

Thanks.

On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 13:09:10 -0400, Alek Trishan
wrote:

I have Win 8 on a laptop with Classic Menu (and some other tricks --
eliminate the lock screen, boot to desktop, etc.)

I went to Metro and clicked Store. The tile appeared but after a few
seconds it disappeared!

1) What could be wrong? Is it that I am using a local account?

2) How can I get 8.1 without going to the store?


Control Panel/Windows Update.

Alek Trishan wrote:
I have Win 8 on a laptop with Classic Menu (and some other tricks --
eliminate the lock screen, boot to desktop, etc.)

I went to Metro and clicked Store. The tile appeared but after a few
seconds it disappeared!

1) What could be wrong? Is it that I am using a local account?

2) How can I get 8.1 without going to the store?

Thanks.

http://www.zdnet.com/windows-8-1-use...te-7000028157/

"Update: Those running Windows 8 will be able to move to 8.1 Update without
updating to 8.1 first, Microsoft officials said."

Weird, if true. I thought a trip to Windows Store was inescapable.

*******

I bought my copy of Windows 8 via the $39.95 download route.
There is a trick, where you can visit that download site
a second time, and get Windows 8.1 (3GB). So I have
Windows 8.1 as an ISO now.

*******

http://www.howtogeek.com/184604/why-...o-windows-8.1/

"Update: We’ve been informed by a Microsoft employee that,
while the update does indeed appear in the Store, it
does not require a Microsoft account to download. We
were apparently wrong here - in our defense, the
preview version of Windows 8.1 required a Microsoft
account to download from the Store and nothing else
in the Store functions without a Microsoft account."

And that apparently didn't work for you.

Now, I'm going to have to boot Windows 8 to see what
happens to my (local account only) setup... :-)

Paul

Paul wrote:
Alek Trishan wrote:
I have Win 8 on a laptop with Classic Menu (and some other tricks --
eliminate the lock screen, boot to desktop, etc.)

I went to Metro and clicked Store. The tile appeared but after a few
seconds it disappeared!

1) What could be wrong? Is it that I am using a local account?

2) How can I get 8.1 without going to the store?

Thanks.

http://www.zdnet.com/windows-8-1-use...te-7000028157/


"Update: Those running Windows 8 will be able to move to 8.1 Update
without
updating to 8.1 first, Microsoft officials said."

Weird, if true. I thought a trip to Windows Store was inescapable.

*******

I bought my copy of Windows 8 via the $39.95 download route.
There is a trick, where you can visit that download site
a second time, and get Windows 8.1 (3GB). So I have
Windows 8.1 as an ISO now.

*******

http://www.howtogeek.com/184604/why-...o-windows-8.1/


"Update: We’ve been informed by a Microsoft employee that,
while the update does indeed appear in the Store, it
does not require a Microsoft account to download. We
were apparently wrong here - in our defense, the
preview version of Windows 8.1 required a Microsoft
account to download from the Store and nothing else
in the Store functions without a Microsoft account."

And that apparently didn't work for you.

Now, I'm going to have to boot Windows 8 to see what
happens to my (local account only) setup... :-)

Paul

Using the Windows Store tile did work, with my local-account-only 8.0
setup, and I was offered a 3.42GB download. It didn't look
exactly like this, because the Windows Store also offered
to upgrade my "junk tiles" as well, so multiple items were
visible. Whereas, on a previous occasion, the computer downloaded
100MB of files and messed around on its own (with Windows Update
turned off!).

So you should be seeing this happen, if using a local account.

http://windowssecrets.com/wp-content...7-TS-Store.png

So I guess that means

8.0 + Windows_8.1 3.42GB + Windows_8.1 Update 1 ~600+ MB = latest_patch_level
(Windows Store) (five or more Windows Update files)

During the Windows Store one, you'll probably be facing the
Microsoft Account attempt again, so read up on how to avoid
it if desired.

http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/...an-ms-account/

HTH,
Paul

On 09-Apr-2014 13:09, Alek Trishan wrote:
I have Win 8 on a laptop with Classic Menu (and some other tricks --
eliminate the lock screen, boot to desktop, etc.)

I went to Metro and clicked Store. The tile appeared but after a few
seconds it disappeared!

1) What could be wrong? Is it that I am using a local account?

2) How can I get 8.1 without going to the store?

Thanks.

Windows update or:

http://www.downloadcrew.com/article/...pdate_1_64-bit

http://www.downloadcrew.com/article/...pdate_1_32-bit

--
Leala.

On 4/9/2014 1:09 PM, Alek Trishan wrote:
I have Win 8 on a laptop with Classic Menu (and some other tricks --
eliminate the lock screen, boot to desktop, etc.)

I went to Metro and clicked Store. The tile appeared but after a few
seconds it disappeared!

1) What could be wrong? Is it that I am using a local account?

2) How can I get 8.1 without going to the store?

Thanks.

I was able to get into the store by setting up a non-local account. The
download succeeded but the installation failed with an 0x80070004 error.

Googling that led me to running sfc /scannow in Safe Mode (and that was
a trip and a half getting to Safe Mode!) wgich failed with a bunch of
stuff logged to CBS.log.

Multiple instances of the following (different times and session numbers):

2014-04-09 17:44:02, Info CBS Session:
30364732_3535275593 initialized by client WindowsUpdateAgent.
2014-04-09 17:44:02, Info CBS Failed to internally
open package. [HRESULT = 0x800f0805 - CBS_E_INVALID_PACKAGE]
2014-04-09 17:44:02, Info CBS Failed to OpenPackage
using worker session [HRESULT = 0x800f0805]

???

Ken Blake, MVP wrote, On 4/9/2014 1:47 PM:
On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 13:09:10 -0400, Alek Trishan
wrote:

I have Win 8 on a laptop with Classic Menu (and some other tricks --
eliminate the lock screen, boot to desktop, etc.)

I went to Metro and clicked Store. The tile appeared but after a few
seconds it disappeared!

1) What could be wrong? Is it that I am using a local account?

2) How can I get 8.1 without going to the store?


Control Panel/Windows Update.


Maybe, Maybe not.

8.1 update from 8.0 is via the Store
8.1 Update 1 from 8.1 is via Windows Update



--
...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 15:42:57 -0400, Leala
wrote:

http://www.downloadcrew.com/article/...pdate_1_64-bit
http://www.downloadcrew.com/article/...pdate_1_32-bit

Those are 8.1 update 1.

I'm looking for plain old 8.1

alek trishan wrote, On 4/10/2014 10:42 PM:
On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 15:42:57 -0400, Leala wrote:

http://www.downloadcrew.com/article/...pdate_1_64-bit
http://www.downloadcrew.com/article/...pdate_1_32-bit

Those are 8.1 update 1.

I'm looking for plain old 8.1

Plain old 8.1 (if Windows 8.0 is fully updated and hardware meets 8.1
System Requirements) is offered via the Microsoft Store...the only other
option is purchase of the full version software (download with or
without media) which performs a clean install.



--
...winston
msft mvp consumer apps