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Old May 3rd 14, 08:10 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Alek Trishan[_3_]
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Is there an update available for 8.1?

If so, is it called 8.1 Update, or 8.1.1?

Thanks.
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Old May 3rd 14, 08:35 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Kirk Bubul[_2_]
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On Sat, 03 May 2014 15:10:13 -0400, Alek Trishan
wrote:

Is there an update available for 8.1?

If so, is it called 8.1 Update, or 8.1.1?

It is called "8.1 Update," just to be confusing. And, on my
machine, it still shows "Windows 8.1." You have to see the
changes that the Update made to know that you have successfully
done the Update. (E.G., at the top of Metro windows, were are now
"-" and "X" choices in the upper righthand corner when you move
your cursor to the top of the screen. Also, if you have a Metro
app working and you switch to the desktop, the Metro app's icon
will appear in the desktop taskbar.)
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Old May 3rd 14, 08:47 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Big Al[_5_]
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Kirk Bubul said on 5/3/2014 3:35 PM:
On Sat, 03 May 2014 15:10:13 -0400, Alek Trishan
wrote:

Is there an update available for 8.1?

If so, is it called 8.1 Update, or 8.1.1?

It is called "8.1 Update," just to be confusing. And, on my
machine, it still shows "Windows 8.1." You have to see the
changes that the Update made to know that you have successfully
done the Update. (E.G., at the top of Metro windows, were are now
"-" and "X" choices in the upper righthand corner when you move
your cursor to the top of the screen. Also, if you have a Metro
app working and you switch to the desktop, the Metro app's icon
will appear in the desktop taskbar.)

KB29191355 about ~880meg

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Old May 3rd 14, 10:15 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
R. C. White
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Hi, Big Al.

KB29191355 about ~880meg


It's KB2919355. You slipped in an extra "1".

My "Installed Updates" lists it as installed twice, on 4/8/14 and on
4/18/14. But it installed easily, works well and is a major improvement.

The description as listed in Update History says:
paste
Windows 8.1 Update for x64-based Systems (KB2919355)
Installation date: ‎4/‎8/‎2014 2:13 PM
Installation status: Succeeded
Update type: Important

Windows 8.1 Update is a cumulative set of security updates, critical updates
and updates. You must install Windows 8.1 Update to ensure that your
computer can continue to receive future Windows Updates, including security
updates. For a complete listing of the issues that are included in this
update, see the associated Microsoft Knowledge Base article for more
information. After you install this item, you may have to restart your
computer.

More information:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2919355

Help and Support:
http://support.microsoft.com
/paste

And there was another update (KB2864358) yesterday that has some users
confused. See the thread started by "McGrath" today. That one also
installed cleanly for me and several others, but a few users reported
problems.

RC
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Kirk Bubul said on 5/3/2014 3:35 PM:
On Sat, 03 May 2014 15:10:13 -0400, Alek Trishan
wrote:

Is there an update available for 8.1?

If so, is it called 8.1 Update, or 8.1.1?

It is called "8.1 Update," just to be confusing. And, on my
machine, it still shows "Windows 8.1." You have to see the
changes that the Update made to know that you have successfully
done the Update. (E.G., at the top of Metro windows, were are now
"-" and "X" choices in the upper righthand corner when you move
your cursor to the top of the screen. Also, if you have a Metro
app working and you switch to the desktop, the Metro app's icon
will appear in the desktop taskbar.)

KB29191355 about ~880meg

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Old May 3rd 14, 10:29 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Alek Trishan wrote:
Is there an update available for 8.1?

If so, is it called 8.1 Update, or 8.1.1?

Thanks.


I'm calling the current update 8.1 U1 for now.

A U2 is expected later on, which gives
a conventional menu.

This will be U2.

http://oi57.tinypic.com/16atu75.jpg

Paul
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Old May 3rd 14, 10:56 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Paul wrote:

I'm calling the current update 8.1 U1 for now.
A U2 is expected later on, which gives
a conventional menu.
This will be U2.
http://oi57.tinypic.com/16atu75.jpg


I'll wait for U3 that removes the tiles from the start menu, then maybe
I can live without Start8


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Old May 4th 14, 12:02 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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R. C. White said on 5/3/2014 5:15 PM:
Hi, Big Al.

KB29191355 about ~880meg


It's KB2919355. You slipped in an extra "1".

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I was tossing that out from memory. I had a ton of issues with it and
was repeatedly putting in that #. You'd think I would get it right!

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Old May 4th 14, 05:55 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Andy Burns wrote, On 5/3/2014 5:56 PM:
Paul wrote:

I'm calling the current update 8.1 U1 for now.
A U2 is expected later on, which gives
a conventional menu.
This will be U2.
http://oi57.tinypic.com/16atu75.jpg


I'll wait for U3 that removes the tiles from the start menu, then maybe
I can live without Start8



You could be waiting for a very long time. Those tiles aren't going
anywhere...too many apps already in use, too many for monetization
purposes, and too common to other Win8 o/s supported devices.



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Old May 4th 14, 07:14 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Andy Burns[_3_]
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....winston wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

I'll wait for U3 that removes the tiles from the start menu, then maybe
I can live without Start8


You could be waiting for a very long time. Those tiles aren't going
anywhere...too many apps already in use, too many for monetization
purposes, and too common to other Win8 o/s supported devices.


I did mean from 8.1U2's start menu as the leaked screenshot suggests,
not the existing start page ... failing that I'll happily stick with
Start8's menu.

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Old May 4th 14, 09:35 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Roderick Stewart
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On Sun, 04 May 2014 00:55:34 -0400, "...winston"
wrote:


I'll wait for U3 that removes the tiles from the start menu, then maybe
I can live without Start8



You could be waiting for a very long time. Those tiles aren't going
anywhere...too many apps already in use, too many for monetization
purposes, and too common to other Win8 o/s supported devices.


The means to switch them off would be good enough for most people.
Better still, the new fancy interface could be switched off by default
so it need only be enabled by those who actually want it. Windows XP
offered two easily switched interface styles, and that became so
successful it doesn't want to go away. You'd think they'd learn.

Rod.
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Old May 4th 14, 11:55 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Paul
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Andy Burns wrote:
...winston wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

I'll wait for U3 that removes the tiles from the start menu, then maybe
I can live without Start8


You could be waiting for a very long time. Those tiles aren't going
anywhere...too many apps already in use, too many for monetization
purposes, and too common to other Win8 o/s supported devices.


I did mean from 8.1U2's start menu as the leaked screenshot suggests,
not the existing start page ... failing that I'll happily stick with
Start8's menu.


The "tile wart" on the side of the menu, should be user-tunable.
Since you can drop items into it, you should also be able to
drag them out again.

Perhaps you can reduce it to being a relatively tall and thin
unoccupied rectangle, on the side of the menu.

The video with the new U2 menu demo, is here. But the
file is 1.9GB and will take a while to download. It's
perhaps a three hour recording of a conference, and
you can see that the entire business plan is centered
around those Tiles. Being able to run a Tile in a desktop
window, is more important to the business strategy, than
that U2 Start menu change. (See 2:08:43 .. 2:10:28)

http://video.ch9.ms/sessions/build/2014/KEY001.mp4

Paul
 




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