OT Hide your location from Youtube/Google moderators?

Anybody know if Youtube/Google moderators can tell what country
you're from? I would guess that they can see your Internet address?
Is the only way to prevent that, by going through a proxy? But if you
do, would they easily tell that you're using a proxy?

Any recommendations for a reliable proxy?

Thanks.

On 06/24/2013 09:37 AM, John Doe wrote:
Anybody know if Youtube/Google moderators can tell what country
you're from? I would guess that they can see your Internet address?
Is the only way to prevent that, by going through a proxy? But if you
do, would they easily tell that you're using a proxy?

Any recommendations for a reliable proxy?

Thanks.



Hi Mr. Doe,

Youtube, I don't know.

Google, switch to

https://startpage.com/
https://duckduckgo.com/

Both will mask your searches from both spy equipment
at your ISP and Google.

-T

John Doe wrote:
Anybody know if Youtube/Google moderators can tell what country
you're from? I would guess that they can see your Internet address?
Is the only way to prevent that, by going through a proxy? But if you
do, would they easily tell that you're using a proxy?

Any recommendations for a reliable proxy?

Thanks.

I don't have an answer for you. This is what I've got
on the topic, a paper I downloaded a while back.

"Towards Street-Level Client-Independent IP Geolocation"

https://www.usenix.org/legacy/events.../Wang_Yong.pdf

And this site has this to say about it.

http://www.i-programmer.info/news/81...ed-meters.html

"The only defense is to use a proxy server but
the technique can detect this and flag the fact
that the user's location cannot be determined."

So yes, they should be able to determine you're using a proxy.
Why that should bother them, I don't know.

You can try a tool like this. But it doesn't have any
Flash widgets it tests with. With proxy in place, you'd
try this and see where it locates you. I don't think
Flash has any "magical powers" - if it was possible
to do a traceroute perhaps, from your end... ?

http://browserspy.dk/geolocation.php

If I try "tracert google.com" in Command Prompt, my
WAN address is in the trace. So all a web site needs
to do, is install code on your computer that can do
the equivalent of tracert. Now, if Flash could do that,
we'd be away to the races.

And if you check with a search engine, there are a ton of
weirdos out there, working on this. All trying to figure
out a way of running a traceroute, to snag your details.
So yes, "unhiding users" appears to be a desired function
in the software community.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6...est-from-a-swf

Paul

On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 16:37:55 +0000 (UTC), John Doe wrote:
Anybody know if Youtube/Google moderators can tell what country
you're from? I would guess that they can see your Internet address?
Is the only way to prevent that, by going through a proxy? But if you
do, would they easily tell that you're using a proxy?

Any recommendations for a reliable proxy?

VPN, but it's not free.

TOR or I2P, but you may not be able to choose the proxy location which is
going to be used to access the website. Only random proxy.

JJ duh nah.meh wrote:

John Doe wrote:

Anybody know if Youtube/Google moderators can tell what country
you're from? I would guess that they can see your Internet
address? Is the only way to prevent that, by going through a
proxy? But if you do, would they easily tell that you're using
a proxy?

Any recommendations for a reliable proxy?

VPN, but it's not free.

TOR or I2P, but you may not be able to choose the proxy location
which is going to be used to access the website. Only random
proxy.

Tor requires overhead bandwidth, right?
I would rather pay a few dollars per month than strain my starved
connection.

On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 16:37:55 +0000 (UTC), John Doe wrote:

Anybody know if Youtube/Google moderators can tell what country
you're from? I would guess that they can see your Internet address?
Is the only way to prevent that, by going through a proxy? But if you
do, would they easily tell that you're using a proxy?

Any recommendations for a reliable proxy?

Use TorBrowser? Or a bootable CD-ROM with Tails?

--
s|b

JJ duh nah.meh wrote:

John Doe wrote:

Anybody know if Youtube/Google moderators can tell what country
you're from? I would guess that they can see your Internet
address? Is the only way to prevent that, by going through a
proxy? But if you do, would they easily tell that you're using
a proxy?

Any recommendations for a reliable proxy?

VPN, but it's not free.

TOR or I2P, but you may not be able to choose the proxy location
which is going to be used to access the website. Only random
proxy.

I'm trying Tor but having some trouble making a Youtube account. I
suspect it's Tor's fault. Will a VPN be compatible with
Google/Youtube? It might be worth a try.

What I've read so far suggests that a VPN will do well for making
multiple Youtube accounts for posting comments, as censorship
requires.

Any recommendations? I'm not very concerned about privacy in the
flow of data or downloading copyrighted material. One other thing
that looks potentially fun is maybe using a betting site to watch
an otherwise unavailable sporting event, on a website that I don't
have access to now (probably to do with being in the U.S.).




--
Thanks to the replies.






Anybody know if Youtube/Google moderators can tell what country
you're from? I would guess that they can see your Internet
address? Is the only way to prevent that, by going through a
proxy? But if you do, would they easily tell that you're using a
proxy?

Any recommendations for a reliable proxy?

Thanks.

https://www.ibvpn.com/billing/cart.p...onfproduct&i=1

"Important! Do NOT use any proxy or VPN solution while you make the
order, otherwise it will be automatically marked as fraud"

How can they tell?

On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 10:17:08 +0000 (UTC), John Doe wrote:
https://www.ibvpn.com/billing/cart.p...onfproduct&i=1

"Important! Do NOT use any proxy or VPN solution while you make the
order, otherwise it will be automatically marked as fraud"

How can they tell?

Because it's easy to track the company that provide an IP.

JJ duh nah.meh wrote:

John Doe wrote:

https://www.ibvpn.com/billing/cart.p...onfproduct&i=1

"Important! Do NOT use any proxy or VPN solution while you make
the order, otherwise it will be automatically marked as fraud"

How can they tell?

Because it's easy to track the company that provide an IP.

Understood. So how do VPNs get away with fooling entertainment
content providers into thinking that the request is coming from the
same country?

In other words... Why don't entertainment content providers ban all
VPNs?

http://asia.cnet.com/blogs/testing-f...t-you-back-on-
youtube-facebook-in-china-62115910.htm

"the TV-streaming service Hulu is a no-go as it's blocked all VPNs"






In other words... Why don't entertainment content providers ban all
VPNs?

On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 04:52:42 +0000 (UTC), John Doe wrote:
Understood. So how do VPNs get away with fooling entertainment
content providers into thinking that the request is coming from the
same country?

They're not fooling. VPN providers can either rent dedicated servers or
actually have a branch office (with servers) in other countries. They'll
simply redirect requests to those servers.

http://asia.cnet.com/blogs/testing-f...t-you-back-on-
youtube-facebook-in-china-62115910.htm

"the TV-streaming service Hulu is a no-go as it's blocked all VPNs"

In other words... Why don't entertainment content providers ban all
VPNs?

That's their policy, not us, as consumers. The only thing that make them ban
a VPN provider is because it's been used mostly for hackings/pishings (by
their customers), and the provider doesn't take any action even though
complaints have been reported.

JJ duh nah.meh wrote:

John Doe wrote:

Understood. So how do VPNs get away with fooling entertainment
content providers into thinking that the request is coming from
the same country?

Not that it matters, but I didn't understand the answer to that,
either.

http://asia.cnet.com/blogs/testing-f...a-62115910.htm

"the TV-streaming service Hulu is a no-go as it's blocked all
VPNs"

In other words... Why don't entertainment content providers ban
all VPNs?

That's their policy, not us, as consumers. The only thing that
make them ban a VPN provider is because it's been used mostly
for hackings/pishings (by their customers), and the provider
doesn't take any action even though complaints have reported.

Huh?

Since Hulu is an entertainment content provider, the apparent
reason they ban VPNs (assuming it's true) is because VPNs are
commonly used to thwart their geography-based media protection
scheme.