Thunderbird 68.7

On 2020-04-13 9:21 a.m., Philo wrote:
On 4/13/2020 8:07 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 4/11/2020 11:10 PM, Philo wrote:
Just updated and now message filters don't work.

Had to go back to 68.4 and immediately disable auto update.

Has anyone else had the problem or is it just me


No big deal, just curious


Using Win10



Also tried 68.7 on my Linux machine and though message filters work,
Thunderbird occasionally bogs down or stops responding completely

Looks like the latest version is now 68.6 again.



Not on my end.

Just installed 68.7 it on another machine.

As it turned out , part of the problem I was having with lag of the
filter which I use to get rid of Usenet trolls was due to the number of
posts.

There was on in particular that took a long time simply because there
were hundreds of posts to delete.

My problem is that it kills my extensions which no longer work, For
instance one important one is "Theme font and size changer" , which I
really need due to poor vision.
So I switched back to 60.9.1 and locked it down for no updates.

Rene

On 4/13/2020 9:40 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2020-04-13 9:21 a.m., Philo wrote:
On 4/13/2020 8:07 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 4/11/2020 11:10 PM, Philo wrote:
Just updated and now message filters don't work.

Had to go back to 68.4 and immediately disable auto update.

Has anyone else had the problem or is it just me


No big deal, just curious


Using Win10



Also tried 68.7 on my Linux machine and though message filters work,
Thunderbird occasionally bogs down or stops responding completely

Looks like the latest version is now 68.6 again.



Not on my end.

Just installed 68.7 it on another machine.

As it turned out , part of the problem I was having with lag of the
filter which I use to get rid of Usenet trolls was due to the number
of posts.

There was on in particular that took a long time simply because there
were hundreds of posts to delete.

My problem is that it kills my extensions which no longer work, For
instanceÂ* one important one is "Theme font and size changer" , which I
really need due to poor vision.
So I switched back to 60.9.1 and locked it down for no updates.

Rene



I may have to go back that far too


thanks

Rene Lamontagne wrote:
[...]

My problem is that it kills my extensions which no longer work, For
instance one important one is "Theme font and size changer" , which I
really need due to poor vision.
So I switched back to 60.9.1 and locked it down for no updates.

How do you switch back to an older version? Just download the older
version and install it 'over' your current installation? Need to do
anything else?

I'm asking because I don't want Thunderbird to update, but there's an
update which has already been downloaded, 'so' - despite being set to
'Never check for updates' -, at startup it keeps nagging and I just once
have to click the wrong button and I'm cactus.

BTW, does anyone know how to get rid of an already downloaded - but
not installed - update?

FYI, I have 60.9.0, i.e. slightly older than you.

On 4/13/20 8:40 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2020-04-13 9:21 a.m., Philo wrote:
On 4/13/2020 8:07 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 4/11/2020 11:10 PM, Philo wrote:
Just updated and now message filters don't work.

Had to go back to 68.4 and immediately disable auto update.

Has anyone else had the problem or is it just me


No big deal, just curious


Using Win10



Also tried 68.7 on my Linux machine and though message filters work,
Thunderbird occasionally bogs down or stops responding completely

Looks like the latest version is now 68.6 again.



Not on my end.

Just installed 68.7 it on another machine.

As it turned out , part of the problem I was having with lag of the
filter which I use to get rid of Usenet trolls was due to the number of
posts.

There was on in particular that took a long time simply because there
were hundreds of posts to delete.

My problem is that it kills my extensions which no longer work, For
instance one important one is "Theme font and size changer" , which I
really need due to poor vision.
So I switched back to 60.9.1 and locked it down for no updates.

Same here, Rene, only I did it long ago.

This is the weakness of add-ons that improve any program with useful and
needed improvements. When the add-on developer drops out, for whatever
reason, and the program developers don't pick it up, any update can be a
step backwards in usability.

What good is a security update if you can't read the material?


--
Ken
MacOS 10.14.6
Firefox 70.0.1
Thunderbird 60.9
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"

On 4/13/20 10:57 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:
[...]

My problem is that it kills my extensions which no longer work, For
instance one important one is "Theme font and size changer" , which I
really need due to poor vision.
So I switched back to 60.9.1 and locked it down for no updates.

How do you switch back to an older version? Just download the older
version and install it 'over' your current installation? Need to do
anything else?

I'm asking because I don't want Thunderbird to update, but there's an
update which has already been downloaded, 'so' - despite being set to
'Never check for updates' -, at startup it keeps nagging and I just once
have to click the wrong button and I'm cactus.

BTW, does anyone know how to get rid of an already downloaded - but
not installed - update?

FYI, I have 60.9.0, i.e. slightly older than you.



To install an older version you must uninstall the current one , then
install the old


It *might* retain your previous profile
or it *might* inform you it needs to create a new one.

I vaguely recall a way to import the old profile if necessary.

On 4/13/20 10:11 AM, philo wrote:
On 4/13/20 10:57 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:
[...]

My problem is that it kills my extensions which no longer work, For
instance one important one is "Theme font and size changer" , which I
really need due to poor vision.
So I switched back to 60.9.1 and locked it down for no updates.

How do you switch back to an older version? Just download the older
version and install it 'over' your current installation? Need to do
anything else?

I'm asking because I don't want Thunderbird to update, but there's an
update which has already been downloaded, 'so' - despite being set to
'Never check for updates' -, at startup it keeps nagging and I just once
have to click the wrong button and I'm cactus.

BTW, does anyone know how to get rid of an already downloaded - but
not installed - update?

FYI, I have 60.9.0, i.e. slightly older than you.



To install an older version you must uninstall the current one , then
install the old


It *might* retain your previous profile
or it *might* inform you it needs to create a new one.

I vaguely recall a way to import the old profile if necessary.

When I went back to an older version on my Mac, I copied my profile
folder and the profiles.ini file. Installed the older program over the
new one. Replaced the newly created profile folder and profile.ini file
with my originals, and everything worked fine.


--
Ken
MacOS 10.14.6
Firefox 70.0.1
Thunderbird 60.9
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"

Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2020-04-13 9:21 a.m., Philo wrote:
On 4/13/2020 8:07 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 4/11/2020 11:10 PM, Philo wrote:
Just updated and now message filters don't work.

Had to go back to 68.4 and immediately disable auto update.

Has anyone else had the problem or is it just me


No big deal, just curious


Using Win10



Also tried 68.7 on my Linux machine and though message filters work,
Thunderbird occasionally bogs down or stops responding completely

Looks like the latest version is now 68.6 again.



Not on my end.

Just installed 68.7 it on another machine.

As it turned out , part of the problem I was having with lag of the
filter which I use to get rid of Usenet trolls was due to the number
of posts.

There was on in particular that took a long time simply because there
were hundreds of posts to delete.

My problem is that it kills my extensions which no longer work, For
instance one important one is "Theme font and size changer" , which I
really need due to poor vision.
So I switched back to 60.9.1 and locked it down for no updates.

Rene


This is due to the version of Firefox used, and the older ESR
version may have supported "Theme font and size changer". 52.9ESR
might have been the last Firefox to support the old plugins,
and Thunderbird lags a bit in terms of which ESR it's based on.
And they changed to a later ESR some time ago. And that ESR doesn't
support the old plugins. There is a web page (somewhere), which
lists which ESR is used with which version of TB.

Paul

"David" wrote in message ...

On 12/04/2020 18:40, 😉 Good Guy 😉 *LIED*

The OP is a regualr moaner/nym-shifter so the best thing is to ignore
him.


The OP has ALWAYS posted as Philo and is a 'salt-of-the-earth' GOOD bloke!
:-)

Good Guy is just being his normal asshole self, who is basically useless for
help.

I used to listen to Philo back when we were both on 98.
Yep, Philo has been around for a long time and is very helpful, unlike GG.

--
Buffalo

On 13/04/2020 18:50, Buffalo wrote:



Good Guy is just being his normal asshole self, who is basically
useless for help.

I

Good Guy is quite practical.Â* He keeps a database of all nym-shifters so
you may not know all of them but he knows them all. Nym-shifters are
what they are.Â* They keep changing their nyms so that people like you,
people of low intelligence, won't recognise them.

Yep, Philo has been around for a long time and is very helpful.

In that case you can lick his ass to please him and give him a quick
blow job.


--
With over 1.2 billion devices now running Windows 10, customer
satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows.

On 13/04/2020 14:07, Yousuf Khan wrote:

Looks like the latest version is now 68.6 again.

You need your brain to be examined by an IT technician!!.Â* How's your
recruiting going on of future jihadists?





--
With over 1.2 billion devices now running Windows 10, customer
satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows.

On 2020-04-12 01:46, Paul wrote:

Didn'tÂ*MozillaÂ*fireÂ*theirÂ*QAÂ*staffÂ*? :-)

Depends on how the voted on the gay rights
initiative.

On 2020-04-13 06:33, Paul wrote:
Chris wrote:
Paul wrote:
Philo wrote:
Just updated and now message filters don't work.

Had to go back to 68.4 and immediately disable auto update.

Has anyone else had the problem or is it just me


No big deal, just curious


Using Win10



Also tried 68.7 on my Linux machine and though message filters work,
Thunderbird occasionally bogs down or stops responding completely

Didn't Mozilla fire their QA staff ? :-)

Thunderbird is no longer a Mozilla product.

The latest corporate governance.

https://blog.thunderbird.net/2020/01...irds-new-home/

Â*Â* January 28, 2020:

Â*Â* "the Thunderbird project will be operating from a new
Â*Â*Â* wholly owned subsidiary of the Mozilla Foundation,
Â*Â*Â* MZLA Technologies Corporation."

Â*Â* "Update: A few of you have asked how to make a contribution
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* to Thunderbird under the new corporation, especially
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* when using the monthly option. Please check out our
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* updated site at give.thunderbird.net"

Which means, I would guess in a business sense, that if "TB"
goes bankrupt, it has no impact on the mother ship.
That's why it's legally separated. Mozilla finances are
such (income versus expenses), that they cannot afford
"overhang" in their operating structure. Mozilla has
a large income, but for some reason, has a large expense.
Mozilla headcount 1000, while making Firefox (and trying to
make a services business). Mozilla fired 70 people in January
(numbers only approximate, because some of those people
moved elsewhere in the corporation). The January thing
is the start of a cleanup. I would expect more axing,
or new-hire-cutoff behaviors there, in line with the
finances. Expect fewer muffin baskets. Or carrot cakes.

Â*Â* Paul


I have used and adored Firefox for years. Since they
fired Brendan Eich (creator of Javascript and former
CEO of Mozilla Corporation) for the way he voted on
the gay rights initiative, Firefox has slowly stopped
working on several sites that are critical to me and
my customers. Firefox is slowly dying. Every release
gets worse and worse. I hate to see it happen. So
I am glad they spun off Thunderbird.

Mozilla needs to learn how to properly behave in
a Republic. Firing someone for the way they
voted is Anti American. They did this to
themselves.

I now install both Firefox and Brave Browser (also
Brendan's doing) on customer machines. Sometimes
Vivaldi too. Both Brave and Vivaldi are "blink"
based browsers like Chrome. Brave's claim to fame
is no ads and no spying. Vivaldi can be de-ad'ed
with uBlock Orgin. Vivaldi is customizable out
the wazoo. I don't care for Chrome, as it spies
on your ass mercilessly.

On 13/04/2020 18:50, Buffalo wrote:
"David"Â* wrote in message ...

On 12/04/2020 18:40, 😉 Good Guy 😉 *LIED*

The OP is a regualr moaner/nym-shifter so the best thing is to ignore
him.


The OP has ALWAYS posted as Philo and is a 'salt-of-the-earth' GOOD
bloke! :-)

Good Guy is just being his normal asshole self, who is basically useless
for help.

I used to listen to Philo back when we were both on 98.
Yep, Philo has been around for a long time and is very helpful, unlike GG.

So we agree! :-)

--
David

On 2020-04-11 20:10, Philo wrote:
Just updated and now message filters don't work.

Had to go back to 68.4 and immediately disable auto update.

Has anyone else had the problem or is it just me


No big deal, just curious


Using Win10



Also tried 68.7 on my Linux machine and though message filters work,
Thunderbird occasionally bogs down or stops responding completely


Check out
mozilla.support.thunderbird
but it is censored.

But you can still talk uncensored on
mozilla.general

Some times I have to go there to get help on
Firefox and Thunderbird to get past the censor.

My Fedora 31 is on 68.7 still. Fedora is "next" to
bleeding edge. Their testers are pretty efficient
at making sure things work before setting them
loose on the rest of us.

Last I saw was

Package: thunderbird-68.7.0-1.fc33
Old package: thunderbird-68.6.0-1.fc33
Summary: Mozilla Thunderbird mail/newsgroup client
RPMs: thunderbird thunderbird-wayland
Size: 243.72 MiB
Size change: 156.43 KiB
Changelog:
* Thu Apr 09 2020 Jan Horak - 68.7.0-1
- Update to 68.7.0 build1

Interesting, they are already working on Fedora 33, but
are still using Thunderbird 68.6

On 2020-04-13 06:58, knuttle wrote:
On 4/13/2020 9:07 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 4/11/2020 11:10 PM, Philo wrote:
Just updated and now message filters don't work.

Had to go back to 68.4 and immediately disable auto update.

Has anyone else had the problem or is it just me


No big deal, just curious


Using Win10



Also tried 68.7 on my Linux machine and though message filters work,
Thunderbird occasionally bogs down or stops responding completely

Looks like the latest version is now 68.6 again.
Ijust went to the Thunderbird website, and started a download.Â* It still
shows it is downloading 68.7.

You can find them ALL over at

https://ftp.mozilla.org