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Old January 24th 19, 11:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Rally
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Default Thunderbird Locked me out

Been using a master password for years.

now it will not accept it !

Tried to delete master password and it will not take my password there
either.

What is going on ???

Thunderbird restarted several times but no help.

It has the spinning circle that just keeps spinning.


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Old January 25th 19, 05:37 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul[_32_]
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Rally wrote:
Been using a master password for years.

now it will not accept it !

Tried to delete master password and it will not take my password there
either.

What is going on ???

Thunderbird restarted several times but no help.

It has the spinning circle that just keeps spinning.


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You would first look to your backups, for undamaged files.
The article here states that newer versions of Thunderbird,
have moved the deck chairs around a bit.

https://palant.de/2018/03/10/master-...-do-not-bother

"While they will still be encrypted in logins.json file,
the encryption key is stored in key3.db."

There are tools for password cracking, as well as the
Kali DVD which has some basic stuff in it (tool to
crack your WinXP login password, rather than just
resetting it).

https://blog.cynosureprime.com/2017/...s-exposed.html

2017-08-03: MDXfind v1.93
https://hashes.org/mdxfind.php

I would try the easy things first, before making
a science project out of it. See if you backed up
the Thunderbird profile lately, then compare the
sizes of the example named files above, to the ones
in the current profile.

C:\Documents and Settings\User Name\Application Data\Thunderbird\Profiles\1234abcd.default
key3.db 16384 bytes (probably only has one password)

Then, in your latest backup, you'd look for similar items
that weren't yet damaged.

If you've been doing "account work", changing passwords
or the master password, since the backup was taken, then
naturally, restoring portions of the profile would make
a mess. *Make sure* you ZIP up a copy of the *current*
profile, before dropping odds and ends into it!

While cracking the master password, and decrypting all the
individual passwords would be fun, it's going to take
a while to get set up for that. When I had Kali running,
I didn't at the time, have a decent video card for
hashing, and now I have a better card. The shaders on
the card, are what is used to calculate hashes and crack
stuff. The video card will get good and hot, and I
don't think my video card has big enough fans for the
job :-/ I specifically selected a "shorty" card so
it would fit in the computer case, and the disadvantage
is one fewer fans on it.

*******

One of the reasons I'm not feeding you this article first,
is I feel your file set is damaged. The following article
assumes there was no busy cursor, you could get into the
program OK, and just access was denied.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb...aster-password

"Forgotten password

If you've forgotten your master password you can reset it.

Warning: This will remove all of your saved usernames and passwords.

1. Choose Tools - Error Console.
2. Paste the following text:
openDialog("chrome://pippki/content/resetpassword.xul")
3. Press the Evaluate button.
4. Accept when prompted with the confirmation dialog box.
"

I presume about all that is doing, is zapping the key3.db
containing the master password and crypto key. By destroying
the key, two things happen. 1) No longer prompted for
master password. 2) Since the crypto key is zeroed out,
*no* protected passwords can be recovered. I think you
can see what a dead end this is, compared to restoring
old copies of particular profile files.

I can't be 100% sure that all these articles are up to date,
so don't be surprised if any of the methods above don't work.

Paul
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Old January 25th 19, 07:29 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Ralph Fox
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Default Thunderbird Locked me out

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 23:37:50 -0500, Paul wrote:

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb...aster-password

"Forgotten password

If you've forgotten your master password you can reset it.

Warning: This will remove all of your saved usernames and passwords.

1. Choose Tools - Error Console.
2. Paste the following text:
openDialog("chrome://pippki/content/resetpassword.xul")
3. Press the Evaluate button.
4. Accept when prompted with the confirmation dialog box.
"



These instructions appear to be up to date, except that in step 3
you press the ENTER key. (I do not see an Evaluate button.)

Screen-shots
1. https://i.imgur.com/fTcArQ3.gif
2. https://i.imgur.com/NL9wYeg.png


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Kind regards
Ralph
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Old January 26th 19, 03:08 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
James Davis
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Default Thunderbird Locked me out

This sounds like it might be related to this recent problem:

https://www.askwoody.com/2019/office...nuary-24-2019/
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Old January 27th 19, 09:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Rally[_2_]
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Default Thunderbird Locked me out


That is called "CLOUDED" Computing.


James Davis wrote:
This sounds like it might be related to this recent problem:

https://www.askwoody.com/2019/office...nuary-24-2019/


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Old January 28th 19, 01:27 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Bill in Co[_3_]
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Default Thunderbird Locked me out

Rally wrote:
That is called "CLOUDED" Computing.


James Davis wrote:
This sounds like it might be related to this recent problem:

https://www.askwoody.com/2019/office...nuary-24-2019/


I can't figure out why anybody would want to use that subscription based,
Microsoft Office 365 application, unless they were forced to. What's wrong
with its predecessors? And I guess the last one was Office 2010 (the last
one that you actually owned, and that was completely installed on your PC)
Actually, the whole idea of subscription based software just rubs me the
wrong way. :-)


 




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