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  #106  
Old December 3rd 17, 06:43 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Hack-A-Mac, macOS High Sierra security vulnerability discovered

In article
nospam wrote:

In article ers.net,
Anonymous wrote:

it wasn't apple's decision. *she* chose the configuration.

A Mac Mini purchased from Best Buy doesn't offer a "choice," you ****.

yes it does. best buy and other resellers sell every configuration.

Best Buy collaborates with the FBI to forensically examine hard
drives of every customer who brings their computer in for repair.

The FBI pays a bounty of $500.00 for every "discovery".

You're willing to risk your freedom with Best Buy / Geek Squad?

then don't bring your computer to best buy to be repaired, not that
they're any good at repairing anything anyway.

that has absolutely nothing to do with *buying* a computer (mac or pc)
or anything else from them.


you'd buy an open box from them?


absolutely, assuming it was a good price (which it usually isn't). best
buy rarely has the best prices.

you're moving the goalposts even *further*.


You're the guy who keeps moving the posts because you can't win
your argument.

Ads
  #107  
Old December 3rd 17, 02:44 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Hack-A-Mac, macOS High Sierra security vulnerability discovered

In article , Anonymous
wrote:


you'd buy an open box from them?


Not on your life.

The only way I'd do that is replace the hard drive and melt the
old one.


paranoia is crippling. seek help.

do you really think best buy installs spyware on every open box item?
what makes you think they don't *also* do that to new computers?
what about routers and home security cameras?
is it just best buy or other stores too?

anyway, the biggest problem is it might have been set up by the
previous owner. reformat/reinstall and start over. no big deal.
  #108  
Old December 3rd 17, 04:50 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Hack-A-Mac, macOS High Sierra security vulnerability discovered

In article
nospam wrote:

In article ci.org,
Anonymous wrote:


there also are used macs for cheap on ebay. big deal.


Used macs are on eBay for a reason.


same reasons used pcs are on ebay.


They lease Mac products in the enterprise?

  #109  
Old December 3rd 17, 04:54 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Hack-A-Mac, macOS High Sierra security vulnerability discovered

On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 17:29:37 -0500, Doomsdrzej wrote:
Read: MACOS UPDATE ACCIDENTALLY UNDOES APPLE'S "ROOT" BUG PATCH
https://www.wired.com/story/macos-up...oot-bug-patch/

"Apple's patch is ... nearly as buggy as the code it was designed to fix"

Read: Apple's had a shockingly bad week of software problems
https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/2/16727238/apple-macos-ios-software-problems-updates

"It's [yet another] shoddy example of Apple ... not taking the time
to test it properly."
  #110  
Old December 3rd 17, 09:28 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Hack-A-Mac, macOS High Sierra security vulnerability discovered


In article
nospam wrote:

In article , Anonymous
wrote:


you'd buy an open box from them?


Not on your life.

The only way I'd do that is replace the hard drive and melt the
old one.


paranoia is crippling. seek help.

do you really think best buy installs spyware on every open box item?


They install security software on every demo PC. It logs
everything. Supposedly they "remove" it after they box it back
up to sell, but who knows what it leaves behind?

what makes you think they don't *also* do that to new computers?


Because all it would take is one customer posting evidence of it
for the lawsuits to begin.

what about routers and home security cameras?


They aren't that smart.

is it just best buy or other stores too?


This incident was just Best Buy, but who knows.

anyway, the biggest problem is it might have been set up by the
previous owner. reformat/reinstall and start over. no big deal.


  #111  
Old December 3rd 17, 09:30 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Alan Baker
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Default Hack-A-Mac, macOS High Sierra security vulnerability discovered

On 2017-12-03 12:28 PM, Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote:
In article
nospam wrote:

In article , Anonymous
wrote:


you'd buy an open box from them?

Not on your life.

The only way I'd do that is replace the hard drive and melt the
old one.


paranoia is crippling. seek help.

do you really think best buy installs spyware on every open box item?


They install security software on every demo PC. It logs
everything. Supposedly they "remove" it after they box it back
up to sell, but who knows what it leaves behind?


Cite, please...


what makes you think they don't *also* do that to new computers?


Because all it would take is one customer posting evidence of it
for the lawsuits to begin.


All it takes here is for you to provide some actual evidence.


what about routers and home security cameras?


They aren't that smart.


So.. ...like you, then?


is it just best buy or other stores too?


This incident was just Best Buy, but who knows.


What "incident"?


anyway, the biggest problem is it might have been set up by the
previous owner. reformat/reinstall and start over. no big deal.



  #112  
Old December 3rd 17, 09:33 PM posted to comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
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Default Hack-A-Mac, macOS High Sierra security vulnerability discovered

On 2017-12-03 15:54:52 +0000, Harry Newton said:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 17:29:37 -0500, Doomsdrzej wrote:

Read: MACOS UPDATE ACCIDENTALLY UNDOES APPLE'S "ROOT" BUG PATCH
https://www.wired.com/story/macos-up...oot-bug-patch/

"Apple's patch is ... nearly as buggy as the code it was designed to fix"

Read: Apple's had a shockingly bad week of software problems
https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/2/16727238/apple-macos-ios-software-problems-updates


"It's [yet another] shoddy example of Apple ... not taking the time
to test it properly."


You do realise that these "bugs" actually affect an extremely miniscule
number of Apple users?? It's simply the usual hurricane in a thimble
misinformation and scaremongering driven by morons in the media and
imbecilic anti-Apple know-nothings on the internet. :-\

Microsloth / Windoze and Androd have more issues per day than Apple has
had in it's entire lifetime.

  #113  
Old December 3rd 17, 09:42 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Hack-A-Mac, macOS High Sierra security vulnerability discovered

In article .at,
Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote:

do you really think best buy installs spyware on every open box item?


They install security software on every demo PC. It logs
everything. Supposedly they "remove" it after they box it back
up to sell, but who knows what it leaves behind?


demo is not the same as open box, but whatever they supposedly
installed (which is itself questionable) can easily be removed with a
reformat.

or are you now claiming they modify the boot rom?

and if you're *that* worried, don't buy lenovo from anywhe
https://www.cnet.com/news/superfish-...s-with-more-th
an-adware/
The preloaded software, called Superfish, alters your search results
to show you different ads than you would otherwise see. But it also
tampers with your computer's security so that attackers can snoop on
your browser traffic -- no matter which browser you're using.
  #114  
Old December 3rd 17, 10:25 PM posted to comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Peter Köhlmann[_3_]
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Default Hack-A-Mac, macOS High Sierra security vulnerability discovered

Your Name wrote:

On 2017-12-03 15:54:52 +0000, Harry Newton said:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 17:29:37 -0500, Doomsdrzej wrote:

Read: MACOS UPDATE ACCIDENTALLY UNDOES APPLE'S "ROOT" BUG PATCH
https://www.wired.com/story/macos-up...oot-bug-patch/

"Apple's patch is ... nearly as buggy as the code it was designed to
fix"

Read: Apple's had a shockingly bad week of software problems
https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/2/16727238/apple-macos-ios-software-problems-updates


"It's [yet another] shoddy example of Apple ... not taking the time
to test it properly."


You do realise that these "bugs" actually affect an extremely miniscule
number of Apple users??


Do you realize that you are way too stupid to understand the links?

That "miniscule number" is basically most of apple users runing that OS
version
  #115  
Old December 3rd 17, 11:40 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Hack-A-Mac, macOS High Sierra security vulnerability discovered

In article
Alan Baker wrote:

On 2017-12-01 2:34 PM, Anonymous wrote:
In article
nospam wrote:

In article , Doomsdrzej
wrote:


I pointed out in the post that you're quoting that it isn't up to my
parents to remedy a problem that Apple created. They asked my parents
to pay top dollar for Mac Mini and then offered performance that was a
fraction of what Windows offered on the same hardware.

nonsense.

prices are similar for similar configurations, often less expensive.


Disagree.

I can buy a decent 15.6" brand new laptop for less than $400.


Show us one...


Here you go.

https://memegenerator.net/img/instan...26/too-stupid-
to-use-google-uses-facebook-and-have-others-google-instead.jpg


I see a LOT of "refurbished" MacBooks at $460+, but they are 11,
12, 13 inch models with practically no real disk space available.


  #116  
Old December 3rd 17, 11:58 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Hack-A-Mac, macOS High Sierra security vulnerability discovered

In article
nospam wrote:

In article , Anonymous
wrote:


I can buy a decent 15.6" brand new laptop for less than $400.


yes you can, and possibly even for less than that, however, it will not
have anywhere near the same specs as a 15" macbook pro.


You won't be buying a brand new 15" macbook pro for less than
$400 either.

the display on that $400 noname piece of junk won't be a wide gamut
dci-p3 retina display that's found on a macbook pro, nor will that $400
noname piece of junk have a touchid sensor or thunderbolt 3 (40 gb/s).


Better guess again and do a little shopping, 'cause you're wrong
on both counts.

microsoft's surface laptop starts at $1000 with a paltry 128 gig ssd, 4
gig memory and an i5 processor, more than twice your noname piece of
junk with unknown specs.


Who said anything about a surface?

the only way to get 512 gig ssd on the surface laptop is by moving up
to 16 gig memory and an i7, which brings the price to $2200, over four
times as much as your noname piece of junk.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/stor...op/90FC23DV6SN
Z?cid=surfacelaptopinterstitial630*


  #117  
Old December 4th 17, 12:53 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Hack-A-Mac, macOS High Sierra security vulnerability discovered

In article , Nathan
Hale wrote:

I can buy a decent 15.6" brand new laptop for less than $400.


yes you can, and possibly even for less than that, however, it will not
have anywhere near the same specs as a 15" macbook pro.


You won't be buying a brand new 15" macbook pro for less than
$400 either.


because a macbook pro has far better specs than a $400 computer will
have.

the display on that $400 noname piece of junk won't be a wide gamut
dci-p3 retina display that's found on a macbook pro, nor will that $400
noname piece of junk have a touchid sensor or thunderbolt 3 (40 gb/s).


Better guess again and do a little shopping, 'cause you're wrong
on both counts.


which $400 laptop has a wide gamut dci-p3 retina display, touch id and
thunderbolt 3, as well as comparable in other specs to a macbook pro?

none, that's what.

microsoft's surface laptop starts at $1000 with a paltry 128 gig ssd, 4
gig memory and an i5 processor, more than twice your noname piece of
junk with unknown specs.


Who said anything about a surface?


i did.

some of microsoft's computers cost *more* than apple, notably the
surface studio, starting at $3000, roughly *double* that of a similar
size imac, with the main difference being it pivots and the imac does
not.
  #118  
Old December 4th 17, 01:27 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Hack-A-Mac, macOS High Sierra security vulnerability discovered

On Sat, 2 Dec 2017 11:45:52 -0800, Alan Baker
wrote:

On 2017-12-01 2:40 PM, Doomsdrzej wrote:
On Fri, 1 Dec 2017 08:54:58 -0800, Alan Baker
wrote:

On 2017-12-01 7:12 AM, Doomsdrzej wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 18:45:37 -0800, Alan Baker
wrote:

On 2017-11-30 6:17 PM, Doomsdrzej wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 15:10:27 -0800, Alan Baker
wrote:

On 2017-11-30 3:08 PM, Doomsdrzej wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 21:49:59 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , Doomsdrzej
wrote:

On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 18:38:52 +0000, RJH wrote:

On 30/11/2017 13:28, Doomsdrzej wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 07:48:18 +0000 (GMT), Nathan Hale
wrote:

In article
Doomsdrzej wrote:

On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 19:55:23 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous
wrote:

https://9to5mac.com/2017/11/28/how-t...root-password/

Lol!

The Mac is a ****ing joke. That's not even brute force hacking; that's
temper tantrum hacking. Anyone defending the platform is an idiot.

Mac IS the platform for idiots. That's exactly the market Jobs
designed it for.

Even during the 1980s, you had to be a complete moron to buy a
computer which couldn't be upgraded, had a tiny monochrome screen,
couldn't multitask and cost a fortune when the competition sold the
same kind of machine with more RAM, colour, a larger screen and
limited upgradeability (Apple vs. Atari). I really feel sorry for Mac
users and hope that they'll find a cure for their mental illness soon.

You're too kind :-)

I bought an iMac to get stuff done when my time was money - something
that was becoming increasingly difficult on Windows machines. Also, at
the time (2008), iMac's were one of the few near-silent reasonably
powerful PCs available for something approaching reasonable money.

While I do have Windows PCs they rarely get used - rarely see the need.

The word "power" and Macs do not go together. My mom has a fairly
recent Mac Mini and even with 8GB of RAM, that thing is so sluggish
that it's embarrassing. I imagine the fact that Apple is cheap enough
to continue selling that hardware with HDs in an era when everyone
else has at least an SSD/HD hybrid is a part of it and no, it's not up
to my parents to shell out _more_ money to remedy Apple's decision.

And being an arse, who'd rather be an arse rather than be helpful,
you've not bothered to go onto ebay and get a 2011/2012 Mini with one
drive, and then take it to your friendly local Mac shop and ask them to
add an SSD as the primary drive in the empty drive mount.

I pointed out in the post that you're quoting that it isn't up to my
parents to remedy a problem that Apple created. They asked my parents
to pay top dollar for Mac Mini and then offered performance that was a
fraction of what Windows offered on the same hardware. No sane person
would ask them to shell out even more money (even though they did on
RAM which was promised to speed things up and did no such thing) to
remedy Apple's idiotic decision to use an HD in the era of SSDs.

Blah, blah, blah.

It's all bull**** until you give us some specifics.

Specifics of WHAT, pray tell? Boot time is slow, applications opening
is slow, applications closing is slow, navigating through the file
system is slow. _EVERYTHING_ is slow.

Which Mac Mini exactly?

Whatever they released around 2013.

So you parents bought a Mac Mini at best buy in 2013 to replace a
machine that failed?


Did I stutter?


Just trying to make sure I understand.

You're complaining that a machine bought in 2013 didn't have an SSD?

SSDs were a lot less common 4 years ago.


Bull****, Baked Anus. They've been quite common for everyone for years
before 2013. Apple simply reserved them for the higher-end machines
because anyone spending only $750 on a machine is an asshole in the
company's eyes.
  #119  
Old December 4th 17, 01:31 AM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Hack-A-Mac, macOS High Sierra security vulnerability discovered

On 2017-12-03 2:40 PM, Anonymous wrote:
In article
Alan Baker wrote:

On 2017-12-01 2:34 PM, Anonymous wrote:
In article
nospam wrote:

In article , Doomsdrzej
wrote:


I pointed out in the post that you're quoting that it isn't up to my
parents to remedy a problem that Apple created. They asked my parents
to pay top dollar for Mac Mini and then offered performance that was a
fraction of what Windows offered on the same hardware.

nonsense.

prices are similar for similar configurations, often less expensive.

Disagree.

I can buy a decent 15.6" brand new laptop for less than $400.


Show us one...


Here you go.

https://memegenerator.net/img/instan...26/too-stupid-
to-use-google-uses-facebook-and-have-others-google-instead.jpg


So you couldn't actually do it.

OK.
  #120  
Old December 4th 17, 01:38 AM posted to comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
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Default Hack-A-Mac, macOS High Sierra security vulnerability discovered

On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 09:33:04 +1300, Your Name
wrote:

On 2017-12-03 15:54:52 +0000, Harry Newton said:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 17:29:37 -0500, Doomsdrzej wrote:

Read: MACOS UPDATE ACCIDENTALLY UNDOES APPLE'S "ROOT" BUG PATCH
https://www.wired.com/story/macos-up...oot-bug-patch/

"Apple's patch is ... nearly as buggy as the code it was designed to fix"

Read: Apple's had a shockingly bad week of software problems
https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/2/16727238/apple-macos-ios-software-problems-updates


"It's [yet another] shoddy example of Apple ... not taking the time
to test it properly."


You do realise that these "bugs" actually affect an extremely miniscule
number of Apple users?? It's simply the usual hurricane in a thimble
misinformation and scaremongering driven by morons in the media and
imbecilic anti-Apple know-nothings on the internet. :-\

Microsloth / Windoze and Androd have more issues per day than Apple has
had in it's entire lifetime.


I'm sure that you took the exact same stance the last time Microsoft
had a serious bug and messed up.
 




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