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  #16  
Old May 17th 09, 01:59 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
ChyronDave
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Posts: 22
Default Disk Cleanup won't run properly

Whether or not McAfee and Norton are of any value or not is immaterial at
this time. Right now, I need to find a solution to my current problem,
which is getting disk cleanup working once again.

Once that has been addressed, then we can discuss the merits of all the
various virus scanning programs.

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

On Sat, 16 May 2009 16:54:01 -0700, ChyronDave
wrote:

I did have McAfee, but had uninstalled it for Norton because it (McAfee) was
having issues.

At the moment, the only thing that is showing up in the Add/Remove Programs
list for McAfee is McAfee QuickClean 4.0. I left it in there since I am not
sure whether I should try uninstalling that or not.



Sorry to tell you, but you are talking about the two worst anti-virus
programs available: Norton (the worst) and McAfee (only slightly
better).

I recommend NOD32, if you are wiling to pay for an anti-virus product,
or Avast, if you want a free one.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

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  #17  
Old May 17th 09, 01:59 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
ChyronDave
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Posts: 22
Default Disk Cleanup won't run properly

Whether or not McAfee and Norton are of any value or not is immaterial at
this time. Right now, I need to find a solution to my current problem,
which is getting disk cleanup working once again.

Once that has been addressed, then we can discuss the merits of all the
various virus scanning programs.

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

On Sat, 16 May 2009 16:54:01 -0700, ChyronDave
wrote:

I did have McAfee, but had uninstalled it for Norton because it (McAfee) was
having issues.

At the moment, the only thing that is showing up in the Add/Remove Programs
list for McAfee is McAfee QuickClean 4.0. I left it in there since I am not
sure whether I should try uninstalling that or not.



Sorry to tell you, but you are talking about the two worst anti-virus
programs available: Norton (the worst) and McAfee (only slightly
better).

I recommend NOD32, if you are wiling to pay for an anti-virus product,
or Avast, if you want a free one.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

  #18  
Old May 17th 09, 01:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Gerry
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Posts: 9,437
Default Disk Cleanup won't run properly

Dave

I think you should remove McAfee QuickClean 4.0.

An alternative to Disk CleanUp is cCleaner. It would be interesting to
know whether this has the same problem with central. dll? If it does
there is a feature, which I have not used, to excludes files which would
presumably enanable the process to complete.

cCleaner (freeware) which does a more thorough job than Disk CleanUp.
Disk CleanUp has to be run for each user profile, whereas cCleaner only
needs to be run once.
http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp
http://www.ccleaner.com/

With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. To be safe you
should create a restore point before using cCleaner. cCleaner also
offers backup before removal.

When using cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form
History under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one has
irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's
recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer so
that they can easily be re-entered.


--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
ChyronDave wrote:
Whether or not McAfee and Norton are of any value or not is
immaterial at this time. Right now, I need to find a solution to my
current problem, which is getting disk cleanup working once again.

Once that has been addressed, then we can discuss the merits of all
the various virus scanning programs.

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

On Sat, 16 May 2009 16:54:01 -0700, ChyronDave
wrote:

I did have McAfee, but had uninstalled it for Norton because it
(McAfee) was having issues.

At the moment, the only thing that is showing up in the Add/Remove
Programs list for McAfee is McAfee QuickClean 4.0. I left it in
there since I am not sure whether I should try uninstalling that or
not.



Sorry to tell you, but you are talking about the two worst anti-virus
programs available: Norton (the worst) and McAfee (only slightly
better).

I recommend NOD32, if you are wiling to pay for an anti-virus
product, or Avast, if you want a free one.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup


  #19  
Old May 17th 09, 01:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Gerry
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Posts: 9,437
Default Disk Cleanup won't run properly

Dave

I think you should remove McAfee QuickClean 4.0.

An alternative to Disk CleanUp is cCleaner. It would be interesting to
know whether this has the same problem with central. dll? If it does
there is a feature, which I have not used, to excludes files which would
presumably enanable the process to complete.

cCleaner (freeware) which does a more thorough job than Disk CleanUp.
Disk CleanUp has to be run for each user profile, whereas cCleaner only
needs to be run once.
http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp
http://www.ccleaner.com/

With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. To be safe you
should create a restore point before using cCleaner. cCleaner also
offers backup before removal.

When using cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form
History under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one has
irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's
recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer so
that they can easily be re-entered.


--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
ChyronDave wrote:
Whether or not McAfee and Norton are of any value or not is
immaterial at this time. Right now, I need to find a solution to my
current problem, which is getting disk cleanup working once again.

Once that has been addressed, then we can discuss the merits of all
the various virus scanning programs.

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

On Sat, 16 May 2009 16:54:01 -0700, ChyronDave
wrote:

I did have McAfee, but had uninstalled it for Norton because it
(McAfee) was having issues.

At the moment, the only thing that is showing up in the Add/Remove
Programs list for McAfee is McAfee QuickClean 4.0. I left it in
there since I am not sure whether I should try uninstalling that or
not.



Sorry to tell you, but you are talking about the two worst anti-virus
programs available: Norton (the worst) and McAfee (only slightly
better).

I recommend NOD32, if you are wiling to pay for an anti-virus
product, or Avast, if you want a free one.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup


  #20  
Old May 18th 09, 05:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
ChyronDave
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 22
Default Disk Cleanup won't run properly

uninstalling Quickclean and installing cCleaner seems to have gotten me back
to being able to manage drive space. Thanks.

cCleaner did find a number of registry issues (I just did the analysis). I
know from reading here that mucking with the registry could have dire
consequences. Do you have any suggestions as to what I should look to clear
out of there?

"Gerry" wrote:

Dave

I think you should remove McAfee QuickClean 4.0.

An alternative to Disk CleanUp is cCleaner. It would be interesting to
know whether this has the same problem with central. dll? If it does
there is a feature, which I have not used, to excludes files which would
presumably enanable the process to complete.

cCleaner (freeware) which does a more thorough job than Disk CleanUp.
Disk CleanUp has to be run for each user profile, whereas cCleaner only
needs to be run once.
http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp
http://www.ccleaner.com/

With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. To be safe you
should create a restore point before using cCleaner. cCleaner also
offers backup before removal.

When using cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form
History under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one has
irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's
recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer so
that they can easily be re-entered.


--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
ChyronDave wrote:
Whether or not McAfee and Norton are of any value or not is
immaterial at this time. Right now, I need to find a solution to my
current problem, which is getting disk cleanup working once again.

Once that has been addressed, then we can discuss the merits of all
the various virus scanning programs.

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

On Sat, 16 May 2009 16:54:01 -0700, ChyronDave
wrote:

I did have McAfee, but had uninstalled it for Norton because it
(McAfee) was having issues.

At the moment, the only thing that is showing up in the Add/Remove
Programs list for McAfee is McAfee QuickClean 4.0. I left it in
there since I am not sure whether I should try uninstalling that or
not.


Sorry to tell you, but you are talking about the two worst anti-virus
programs available: Norton (the worst) and McAfee (only slightly
better).

I recommend NOD32, if you are wiling to pay for an anti-virus
product, or Avast, if you want a free one.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup



  #21  
Old May 18th 09, 05:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
ChyronDave
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 22
Default Disk Cleanup won't run properly

uninstalling Quickclean and installing cCleaner seems to have gotten me back
to being able to manage drive space. Thanks.

cCleaner did find a number of registry issues (I just did the analysis). I
know from reading here that mucking with the registry could have dire
consequences. Do you have any suggestions as to what I should look to clear
out of there?

"Gerry" wrote:

Dave

I think you should remove McAfee QuickClean 4.0.

An alternative to Disk CleanUp is cCleaner. It would be interesting to
know whether this has the same problem with central. dll? If it does
there is a feature, which I have not used, to excludes files which would
presumably enanable the process to complete.

cCleaner (freeware) which does a more thorough job than Disk CleanUp.
Disk CleanUp has to be run for each user profile, whereas cCleaner only
needs to be run once.
http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp
http://www.ccleaner.com/

With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. To be safe you
should create a restore point before using cCleaner. cCleaner also
offers backup before removal.

When using cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form
History under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one has
irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's
recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer so
that they can easily be re-entered.


--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
ChyronDave wrote:
Whether or not McAfee and Norton are of any value or not is
immaterial at this time. Right now, I need to find a solution to my
current problem, which is getting disk cleanup working once again.

Once that has been addressed, then we can discuss the merits of all
the various virus scanning programs.

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

On Sat, 16 May 2009 16:54:01 -0700, ChyronDave
wrote:

I did have McAfee, but had uninstalled it for Norton because it
(McAfee) was having issues.

At the moment, the only thing that is showing up in the Add/Remove
Programs list for McAfee is McAfee QuickClean 4.0. I left it in
there since I am not sure whether I should try uninstalling that or
not.


Sorry to tell you, but you are talking about the two worst anti-virus
programs available: Norton (the worst) and McAfee (only slightly
better).

I recommend NOD32, if you are wiling to pay for an anti-virus
product, or Avast, if you want a free one.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup



  #22  
Old May 18th 09, 07:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Ken Blake, MVP
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 10,402
Default Disk Cleanup won't run properly

On Mon, 18 May 2009 09:52:34 -0700, ChyronDave
wrote:

uninstalling Quickclean and installing cCleaner seems to have gotten me back
to being able to manage drive space. Thanks.

cCleaner did find a number of registry issues (I just did the analysis). I
know from reading here that mucking with the registry could have dire
consequences. Do you have any suggestions as to what I should look to clear
out of there?



I'm not Gerry, but I have two suggestions for you:

1. CCleaner is an excellent program, and like Gerry, I recommend it.
However I recommend that you use all its features *except* its
registry cleaning. Its registry cleaning is somewhat safer than most
of the other registry cleaners, but, like all the others, it is not
completely safe.

2. Despite what many people think, and what vendors of registry
cleaning software try to convince you of, having unused registry
entries doesn't really hurt you. So I would ignore the registry issues
it found, do not look to clear anything out there, and avoid using its
registry cleaning facility in the future.

The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
it may have.




"Gerry" wrote:

Dave

I think you should remove McAfee QuickClean 4.0.

An alternative to Disk CleanUp is cCleaner. It would be interesting to
know whether this has the same problem with central. dll? If it does
there is a feature, which I have not used, to excludes files which would
presumably enanable the process to complete.

cCleaner (freeware) which does a more thorough job than Disk CleanUp.
Disk CleanUp has to be run for each user profile, whereas cCleaner only
needs to be run once.
http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp
http://www.ccleaner.com/

With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. To be safe you
should create a restore point before using cCleaner. cCleaner also
offers backup before removal.

When using cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form
History under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one has
irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's
recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer so
that they can easily be re-entered.


--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
ChyronDave wrote:
Whether or not McAfee and Norton are of any value or not is
immaterial at this time. Right now, I need to find a solution to my
current problem, which is getting disk cleanup working once again.

Once that has been addressed, then we can discuss the merits of all
the various virus scanning programs.

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

On Sat, 16 May 2009 16:54:01 -0700, ChyronDave
wrote:

I did have McAfee, but had uninstalled it for Norton because it
(McAfee) was having issues.

At the moment, the only thing that is showing up in the Add/Remove
Programs list for McAfee is McAfee QuickClean 4.0. I left it in
there since I am not sure whether I should try uninstalling that or
not.


Sorry to tell you, but you are talking about the two worst anti-virus
programs available: Norton (the worst) and McAfee (only slightly
better).

I recommend NOD32, if you are wiling to pay for an anti-virus
product, or Avast, if you want a free one.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup




--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
  #23  
Old May 18th 09, 07:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Ken Blake, MVP
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 10,402
Default Disk Cleanup won't run properly

On Mon, 18 May 2009 09:52:34 -0700, ChyronDave
wrote:

uninstalling Quickclean and installing cCleaner seems to have gotten me back
to being able to manage drive space. Thanks.

cCleaner did find a number of registry issues (I just did the analysis). I
know from reading here that mucking with the registry could have dire
consequences. Do you have any suggestions as to what I should look to clear
out of there?



I'm not Gerry, but I have two suggestions for you:

1. CCleaner is an excellent program, and like Gerry, I recommend it.
However I recommend that you use all its features *except* its
registry cleaning. Its registry cleaning is somewhat safer than most
of the other registry cleaners, but, like all the others, it is not
completely safe.

2. Despite what many people think, and what vendors of registry
cleaning software try to convince you of, having unused registry
entries doesn't really hurt you. So I would ignore the registry issues
it found, do not look to clear anything out there, and avoid using its
registry cleaning facility in the future.

The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
it may have.




"Gerry" wrote:

Dave

I think you should remove McAfee QuickClean 4.0.

An alternative to Disk CleanUp is cCleaner. It would be interesting to
know whether this has the same problem with central. dll? If it does
there is a feature, which I have not used, to excludes files which would
presumably enanable the process to complete.

cCleaner (freeware) which does a more thorough job than Disk CleanUp.
Disk CleanUp has to be run for each user profile, whereas cCleaner only
needs to be run once.
http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp
http://www.ccleaner.com/

With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. To be safe you
should create a restore point before using cCleaner. cCleaner also
offers backup before removal.

When using cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form
History under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one has
irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's
recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer so
that they can easily be re-entered.


--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
ChyronDave wrote:
Whether or not McAfee and Norton are of any value or not is
immaterial at this time. Right now, I need to find a solution to my
current problem, which is getting disk cleanup working once again.

Once that has been addressed, then we can discuss the merits of all
the various virus scanning programs.

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

On Sat, 16 May 2009 16:54:01 -0700, ChyronDave
wrote:

I did have McAfee, but had uninstalled it for Norton because it
(McAfee) was having issues.

At the moment, the only thing that is showing up in the Add/Remove
Programs list for McAfee is McAfee QuickClean 4.0. I left it in
there since I am not sure whether I should try uninstalling that or
not.


Sorry to tell you, but you are talking about the two worst anti-virus
programs available: Norton (the worst) and McAfee (only slightly
better).

I recommend NOD32, if you are wiling to pay for an anti-virus
product, or Avast, if you want a free one.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup




--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
  #24  
Old May 18th 09, 10:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Gerry
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Posts: 9,437
Default Disk Cleanup won't run properly

Dave

I do not recommending using the Registry Cleaning component.

A Registry Cleaner claims to point out redundant entries but are they
redundant or merely those just not needed at the present time? If in the
second category the user is likely to encounter problems when the user's
needs change and the registry entry is needed to accomodate the change?
How can an automated registry cleaner have a crystal ball to know what
the user might want at a future time? The risks from removing are not
justied by any performance gain.

--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


ChyronDave wrote:
uninstalling Quickclean and installing cCleaner seems to have gotten
me back to being able to manage drive space. Thanks.

cCleaner did find a number of registry issues (I just did the
analysis). I know from reading here that mucking with the registry
could have dire consequences. Do you have any suggestions as to what
I should look to clear out of there?

"Gerry" wrote:

Dave

I think you should remove McAfee QuickClean 4.0.

An alternative to Disk CleanUp is cCleaner. It would be interesting
to know whether this has the same problem with central. dll? If it
does there is a feature, which I have not used, to excludes files
which would presumably enanable the process to complete.

cCleaner (freeware) which does a more thorough job than Disk CleanUp.
Disk CleanUp has to be run for each user profile, whereas cCleaner
only needs to be run once.
http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp
http://www.ccleaner.com/

With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. To be safe you
should create a restore point before using cCleaner. cCleaner also
offers backup before removal.

When using cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form
History under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one
has irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's
recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer so
that they can easily be re-entered.


--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
ChyronDave wrote:
Whether or not McAfee and Norton are of any value or not is
immaterial at this time. Right now, I need to find a solution to my
current problem, which is getting disk cleanup working once again.

Once that has been addressed, then we can discuss the merits of all
the various virus scanning programs.

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

On Sat, 16 May 2009 16:54:01 -0700, ChyronDave
wrote:

I did have McAfee, but had uninstalled it for Norton because it
(McAfee) was having issues.

At the moment, the only thing that is showing up in the Add/Remove
Programs list for McAfee is McAfee QuickClean 4.0. I left it in
there since I am not sure whether I should try uninstalling that
or not.


Sorry to tell you, but you are talking about the two worst
anti-virus programs available: Norton (the worst) and McAfee (only
slightly better).

I recommend NOD32, if you are wiling to pay for an anti-virus
product, or Avast, if you want a free one.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup


  #25  
Old May 18th 09, 10:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Gerry
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 9,437
Default Disk Cleanup won't run properly

Dave

I do not recommending using the Registry Cleaning component.

A Registry Cleaner claims to point out redundant entries but are they
redundant or merely those just not needed at the present time? If in the
second category the user is likely to encounter problems when the user's
needs change and the registry entry is needed to accomodate the change?
How can an automated registry cleaner have a crystal ball to know what
the user might want at a future time? The risks from removing are not
justied by any performance gain.

--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


ChyronDave wrote:
uninstalling Quickclean and installing cCleaner seems to have gotten
me back to being able to manage drive space. Thanks.

cCleaner did find a number of registry issues (I just did the
analysis). I know from reading here that mucking with the registry
could have dire consequences. Do you have any suggestions as to what
I should look to clear out of there?

"Gerry" wrote:

Dave

I think you should remove McAfee QuickClean 4.0.

An alternative to Disk CleanUp is cCleaner. It would be interesting
to know whether this has the same problem with central. dll? If it
does there is a feature, which I have not used, to excludes files
which would presumably enanable the process to complete.

cCleaner (freeware) which does a more thorough job than Disk CleanUp.
Disk CleanUp has to be run for each user profile, whereas cCleaner
only needs to be run once.
http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp
http://www.ccleaner.com/

With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. To be safe you
should create a restore point before using cCleaner. cCleaner also
offers backup before removal.

When using cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form
History under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one
has irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's
recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer so
that they can easily be re-entered.


--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
ChyronDave wrote:
Whether or not McAfee and Norton are of any value or not is
immaterial at this time. Right now, I need to find a solution to my
current problem, which is getting disk cleanup working once again.

Once that has been addressed, then we can discuss the merits of all
the various virus scanning programs.

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

On Sat, 16 May 2009 16:54:01 -0700, ChyronDave
wrote:

I did have McAfee, but had uninstalled it for Norton because it
(McAfee) was having issues.

At the moment, the only thing that is showing up in the Add/Remove
Programs list for McAfee is McAfee QuickClean 4.0. I left it in
there since I am not sure whether I should try uninstalling that
or not.


Sorry to tell you, but you are talking about the two worst
anti-virus programs available: Norton (the worst) and McAfee (only
slightly better).

I recommend NOD32, if you are wiling to pay for an anti-virus
product, or Avast, if you want a free one.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup


 




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