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Old June 25th 04, 12:45 AM
John Cartmell
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In article ,
Noel Paton wrote:
OK - so who is this idiot 'druck' who thinks he owns UseNet - and the MS
newsgroups? (for your information, 'druck', MS newsgroups are PRIVATE
groups, open to the public)


Neither druck nor the cross-poster are typical of the Acorn / RISC OS
people although druck does some damned good work for the platform. If you
don't get a good opinion of us and of RISC OS computers generally then
someone is feeding you false ideas. Sorry.

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Old June 25th 04, 01:51 AM
kurttrail
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John Cartmell wrote:

In article ,
Noel Paton wrote:
OK - so who is this idiot 'druck' who thinks he owns UseNet - and
the MS newsgroups? (for your information, 'druck', MS newsgroups are
PRIVATE groups, open to the public)


Neither druck nor the cross-poster are typical of the Acorn / RISC OS
people although druck does some damned good work for the platform.


Well this is the second way off-topic thread in 8 days, involving your name
and magazine, that has wound up in a group generally about Windows XP.
These two threads are all we have to base our opinions on what is typical of
your squirrels.

If
you don't get a good opinion of us and of RISC OS computers generally
then someone is feeding you false ideas. Sorry.


Sorry and a quarter won't get ya' a cup of coffee. Please keep your
squirrels and stray goats in your own neck of the woods. They are under the
misguided impression that our msnews groups give a sh*t about ya'll, ya'll's
misspelled oak of a magazine, or your RISC OS. [Is RISC another yet another
misspelling, I wonder?] It's not like Acorn can even natively run on our
IBM clones, so your squirrels really have no business whining, and playing
the NetNazis in our groups.

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Old June 25th 04, 11:41 AM
John Cartmell
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In article , kurttrail
wrote:
Sorry and a quarter won't get ya' a cup of coffee. Please keep your
squirrels and stray goats in your own neck of the woods. They are under
the misguided impression that our msnews groups give a sh*t about ya'll,
ya'll's misspelled oak of a magazine, or your RISC OS. [Is RISC another
yet another misspelling, I wonder?] It's not like Acorn can even
natively run on our IBM clones, so your squirrels really have no
business whining, and playing the NetNazis in our groups.


Polite apologies don't expect rude replies. Certainly not a spelling
lesson. The C in RISC stands for Chip or Computer and we tend not to spell
either of those words with a K. The architecture means that we can run
computers with very little power and no waste heat. It helps. The operating
system can run on top of Windows if you want to sacrifice the environment
saving architectu
www.virtualacorn.co.uk
but it works best using Intel's favourite chip - ie ARM - rather than the
CISC architecture of the older (IBM clones) PCs.

and I chose Qercus as a name for our magazine because, as you noticed, the
intelligent can make the link back to Acorn whilst it manages to avoid too
many botanical references in web searches.

And stray goats? As I said druck does some brilliant work so we allow him
his foibles which includes telling people off when they're wrong. I realise
you don't have the recompense of the fruits of his labour - but you could
always buy a copy of Virtual Acorn...

...and as for the other plonker - well he's at the other side of the
country else I'd have taken a blunt instrument to him; from comments
elsewhere someone else will.

Can we now end the cross-posting and silliness?

Best wishes

--
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Old June 25th 04, 12:46 PM
kurttrail
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John Cartmell wrote:

In article , kurttrail
wrote:
Sorry and a quarter won't get ya' a cup of coffee. Please keep your
squirrels and stray goats in your own neck of the woods. They are
under the misguided impression that our msnews groups give a sh*t
about ya'll, ya'll's misspelled oak of a magazine, or your RISC OS.
[Is RISC another yet another misspelling, I wonder?] It's not like
Acorn can even natively run on our IBM clones, so your squirrels
really have no business whining, and playing the NetNazis in our
groups.


Polite apologies don't expect rude replies.


Feigned civlility does.

Certainly not a spelling
lesson. The C in RISC stands for Chip or Computer and we tend not to
spell either of those words with a K.


Obviouly, you don't have a sense of humor about it.

The architecture means that we
can run computers with very little power and no waste heat. It helps.
The operating system can run on top of Windows if you want to
sacrifice the environment saving architectu
www.virtualacorn.co.uk


Yes, I was aware of that before I posted my first reply to you. But if you
read what I actually wrote I implied that Acorn is worthless to our computer
on its own.

but it works best using Intel's favourite chip - ie ARM - rather than
the CISC architecture of the older (IBM clones) PCs.

and I chose Qercus as a name for our magazine because, as you
noticed, the intelligent can make the link back to Acorn whilst it
manages to avoid too many botanical references in web searches.


Then why isn't Acorn misspelled for the same reasoning?


And stray goats?


Mr. Goatly who really started this nonsense between msnews groups & CSAM.
Because as I already explained earlier in the thread, MS pulled the original
profane post from its msnews servers.

As I said druck does some brilliant work so we allow
him his foibles which includes telling people off when they're wrong.
I realise you don't have the recompense of the fruits of his labour -
but you could always buy a copy of Virtual Acorn...


So that's what this recent Qercus/Acorn assult on our group is about?
Marketing for Virtual Acorn?


..and as for the other plonker - well he's at the other side of the
country else I'd have taken a blunt instrument to him; from comments
elsewhere someone else will.

Can we now end the cross-posting and silliness?


As soon as ya'll crawl back under your CSAM rock, and leave us be.

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Old June 25th 04, 01:42 PM
Tarquin Mills
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John Cartmell wrote:
..and as for the other plonker - well he's at the other side of the
country else I'd have taken a blunt instrument to him; from comments
elsewhere someone else will.


This a nice way to treat someone who has defended you, last time we
talk on the phone you offer me a free copy of Qercus, which I paid
for even though you did not want me to. So lets see what you really
think of M$

http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?q=...co.uk&rnum= 1
Quote from John Cartmell:
your freebies from Microsoft are no more than the freebies given by
drug dealers or paedophiles.

Which I did not agree with at the time and still do not, but when John
was challanged he said in this posting

http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?q=...co.uk&rnum= 1

John Cartmell wrote:
Russ Tarbox wrote:
That's an obscene analogy.


It's an absolutely straightforward one. You said MS's software and
practices were better than they were. It sounded positive. I merely forced
you to appreciate that 'better' need not mean 'good'.

For starters, the laws seem to be made up as things go along.


The laws of monopolies in the UK have been steady for many years. The one
major exception to all the rules and way oou of line of the law is
Microsoft.

Comparing a software company's practices with that of a paedophile is
ridiculous.


In some cases both give out freebies in order to convert people and, once
they have control, they close the trap. That analogy applies equally to
paedophiles and Microsoft. I hadn't implied that both prey on children (but
they do) but I'm pleased to see that you find the analogy distasteful -
because much that Microsoft do is found to be distasteful by very many
people.

Of course the analogy breaks down. But the distaste is appropriate.


--
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Norwich Sinclair and Clones Show (ORSAM 2004)
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  #6  
Old June 25th 04, 02:46 PM
Bruce Goatly
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Default Sorry folks [was rude message]

In message
"kurttrail" wrote:

Mr. Goatly who really started this nonsense between msnews groups & CSAM.


Point of information: that's Dr Goatly.

Because as I already explained earlier in the thread, MS pulled the original
profane post from its msnews servers.


Without the benefit of psychic powers it's hard to see how I was supposed to
know this.

Anyway, enough, already! One can be a Microsoft hater without hating the
people that use the products. Which is something that little Mr Mills should
learn, sharpish.

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"They hit us with guns, bazookas, tear gas, tanks, APVs, helicopters,
rockets... and I'm pretty sure at least one of them used really harsh
language." - Marcus Alexander, "Jeremiah"
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Old June 25th 04, 02:53 PM
Tarquin Mills
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Default Sorry folks [was rude message]

In message
Bruce Goatly wrote:
Anyway, enough, already! One can be a Microsoft hater without hating the
people that use the products. Which is something that little Mr Mills
should learn, sharpish.

I do not hate M$ users (no matter how many times they have told me to get
a proper computer when they find out I am not using one running a M$ OS)
just look at

Reboot Movement (An Anti-Wintel Campaign)
http://www.speccyverse.me.uk/comp/reboot/

No anti-Windows users stuff on it, or any anti Bill Gates stuff, how many
other anti Microsoft websites can claim that. It is my belief that
piracy and and anti-Windows-user/Bill-Gates views get more headlines than
my campaigning with the Office of Fair Trading wrongly, I have been proved
right. Just look a the media attention on Drobe that the Microdigital press
release archive got. All those who have been expressing anti-M$ should
answer why they have not contacted the OFT or local equivalent and banded
together to create a mass anti-Wintel movement that can change things like
FSF.
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Old June 25th 04, 02:56 PM
kurttrail
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Bruce Goatly wrote:

In message
"kurttrail"
wrote:

Mr. Goatly who really started this nonsense between msnews groups &
CSAM.


Point of information: that's Dr Goatly.


Proctologist? That you spent more time partying in college than most,
and have the piece of paper to prove it, isn't all that impressive.

You breathe, sh*t, ****, eat, and put your pants on one leg at a time,
so just because you and/or your parents, and/or others spent thousands
of dollars for a piece of paper for you doesn't really mean anything,
because in the end you are nothing but worm-bait, like the rest of us
mere humans that didn't waste thousands of dollars on a piece of paper.


Because as I already explained earlier in the thread, MS pulled the
original profane post from its msnews servers.


Without the benefit of psychic powers it's hard to see how I was
supposed to know this.


By keeping your snitching activities to yourself next time. Why do you
feel the necessity to publicly announce your tattletale escapades to
begin with. Children & KGB informants are at least smart enough to try
to hide the fact of their tattletale acts.


Anyway, enough, already! One can be a Microsoft hater without hating
the people that use the products. Which is something that little Mr
Mills should learn, sharpish.


Why hate at all? Or aren't you evolved enough to disagree with others
without getting emotional about it?

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Old June 25th 04, 03:42 PM
Bruce Goatly
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Default Sorry folks [was rude message]

In message
"kurttrail" wrote:

[nothing of significance]

*plonk*, troll.

--
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rockets... and I'm pretty sure at least one of them used really harsh
language." - Marcus Alexander, "Jeremiah"
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Old June 25th 04, 03:48 PM
kurttrail
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Bruce Goatly wrote:

In message
"kurttrail"
wrote:

[nothing of significance]

*plonk*, troll.


LOL! The natural reaction of the feeble-minded when confronted by their
own inadequacies.

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Old June 25th 04, 03:48 PM
Tarquin Mills
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Default Sorry folks [was rude message]

In message
"kurttrail" wrote:
Mr. Goatly who really started this nonsense between msnews groups & CSAM.
Because as I already explained earlier in the thread, MS pulled the
original profane post from its msnews servers.

I challenge Microsoft to admit they cancelled those messages and others
on the Usenet part of the Internet.

--
Tarquin Mills

Reboot Movement (An Anti-Wintel Campaign)
http://www.speccyverse.me.uk/comp/reboot/
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Old June 25th 04, 03:52 PM
David Candy
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Default Sorry folks [was rude message]

Where did you find these idiots. I've told you before about bringing =
things home that you find. Now, young man, take them back and leave them =
where you found them.

--=20
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"kurttrail" wrote in =
message ...
Bruce Goatly wrote:
=20
In message
"kurttrail"
wrote:

[nothing of significance]

*plonk*, troll.

=20
LOL! The natural reaction of the feeble-minded when confronted by =

their
own inadequacies.
=20
--=20
Peace!
Kurt
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microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
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=20

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Old June 25th 04, 03:52 PM
Danny Mingledorff
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Default Sorry folks [was rude message]


"Tarquin Mills" wrote in message
...
In message
"kurttrail" wrote:
Mr. Goatly who really started this nonsense between msnews groups &

CSAM.
Because as I already explained earlier in the thread, MS pulled the
original profane post from its msnews servers.

I challenge Microsoft to admit they cancelled those messages and others
on the Usenet part of the Internet.

--
Tarquin Mills

Reboot Movement (An Anti-Wintel Campaign)
http://www.speccyverse.me.uk/comp/reboot/


Microsoft cancelled the messages off their news servers, the timing of which
may have affected their distribution to other new servers out there.

....danny


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Old June 25th 04, 03:52 PM
David Candy
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Wait till Mike Branigan appears and ask him. If he did he'll admit it.

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"Tarquin Mills" wrote in message =
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In message
"kurttrail" wrote:
Mr. Goatly who really started this nonsense between msnews groups & =

CSAM.
Because as I already explained earlier in the thread, MS pulled the=20
original profane post from its msnews servers.

I challenge Microsoft to admit they cancelled those messages and =

others=20
on the Usenet part of the Internet.
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Reboot Movement (An Anti-Wintel Campaign)=20
http://www.speccyverse.me.uk/comp/reboot/

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Old June 25th 04, 04:42 PM
Mike M
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Default Sorry folks [was rude message]

Whether a news server accepts and acts on cancels is a matter for that server
and its administration. There is no requirement that a third party server to
act on cancels it receives from other servers including Microsoft. Likewise
what Microsoft does or does not do with its server is a matter for Microsoft
and Microsoft alone.
--
Mike Maltby


Tarquin Mills wrote:

I challenge Microsoft to admit they cancelled those messages and others
on the Usenet part of the Internet.


 




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