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Yes, it's flatfish again.
Joe User wrote:
People, he has been doing this for more than 10 years. I think it must be the most important thing in his life. He never tires of it, and I really don't think he ever will. Play with him all you like, but keep in mind that you're responding to a completely fictitious story posted by some poor schmuck who has had nothing better to do for the past decade. The guy is disturbed. Thanks for the heads up, albeit a little late in the thread ;-) Alias |
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Vista Is Bad But Linux Is Horrendous!!!!
All true.. the lady asked two Linux users.. they couldn't find anything.. no
real surprise as all knitting pattern progs were Windows only at the time.. c'est la guerre.. ... "arachnid" wrote in message newsan.2007.02.23.00.21.05.375552@goawayspammers .com... On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 16:55:27 -0500, Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User wrote: I had an e-mail client who wanted to know if I could get her a 'knitting pattern' program for Linux as her 'dumb bunny' husband (her words) had made the switch from Windows to Linux.. unfortunately, there was nothing available, Maybe she should have asked a Linux user: http://sourceforge.net/projects/kpg/ There are many more where that came from but the husband held out until he came to want to play his favorite Toca 2 racing game.. oops.. it was not a Linux game, I wanted to add guns and bombs to my aircraft in Flight Simulator but I couldn't because it doesn't come with source code. and his steering wheel and pedals were useless too.. That would surprise me. High-end peripherals with secret Windows-only API's are a constant battle for OSS driver developers, but gaming controllers are trivially simple devices with fairly standard interfaces. the switch back to Windows was made, and I received a happy e-mail from the lady, who announced that the family computer was back in business again, having been used by nobody, including 'dumb bunny' since the installation of Linux.. Likely story. -- Mike Hall MS MVP Windows Shell/User http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/ |
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Vista Is Bad But Linux Is Horrendous!!!!
Ha Ha, funny troll.
I can get a basic install of a Debian installed in 20 minutes to an hour. Fedora is almost a beta issue for Red Hat. wrote in message oups.com... I've spent the last 3 days attempting to upgrade 4 Windows-XP systems to Vista and have had various problems with software compatability. I've spent countless hours on the phone and technical support websites and finally after 3 days I have everything working. This fiasco has left me with some doubt as to whether or not Microsoft has the ability to maintain it's position as the defacto standard in operating systems. After reading about Linux I decided to give it a try on another system which is an older P4 2.4G system based around an Asus board. I downloaded Fedora and attempted to install. First problem, my SATA drives were not found. Google time 2 hours later I found the solution which was a Custom Install Option. (After a few cryptic questions and a partition manager that was convoluted and potentially very dangerous in the hands of a new user, Fedora was installed) Second Problem, the system would not boot after install. I got a Grub Error 15 message. Google Time 5 Hours Later .. Oh boy I found lots of information on this puppy. About 5 hours later I fixed the problem which involved copying a know working Grub configuration file from some kind soul on the net, modifying it for my particular system and replacing the one already installed. I did this with a Knoppix LiveCD. So now I can boot the system, but my display image is shifted way off the screen and too low to click on anything. Google Time 2 hours later Ok I learned how to boot to a command line and edit the Xorg file to fix the entries that were incorrect for my common Nvidia card. So now I could see my desktop, but it was at 1024x768 and what appeared to be 16 colors. Google Time 3 hours later I discovered that there is no apparent way to get 32bpp, 3D acceleration, 85hz and 1280x1024 all at the same time like I have with Windows. Bummer. I settled for 1280x1024 24bpp and no 3d because I don't use it and Linux doesn't appear to have any games written for Linux anyhow. So now I have the system up, am surfing the net and things look pretty good. Time to add a printer. I go to the control panel and click on printers and peruse the list but I don't see my Lexmark Multifunction listed? I do see a similar model however so I decide to try this. It installs easy enough, but when I go to print I get one line of gibberish on the top of the page, the page ejects and the next page does the same thing over and over and over again. Rebooting the system does no good because the printer, like a mad beast, starts right up again wasting my paper. Finally I turn the damm thing off while I..................... Google Time 4 hours I discover Print Ques, printer names and the wonderful account called root. I finally figure out how to purge this thing and with some trepidation I turn the printer on and thankfully it behaves. Oh well, I don't need to print right now anyhow so on to my network. The problem is, I can't see my other 3 Windows Vista machines. And now it's......... you guessed it! GOOGLE TIME infinite I discover something called Samba, but I also learn that Microsoft Vista and Samba are not friends but only after a day and a hlf of playing with a smb.conf file and reading maybe a hundred web pages devoted to helping people get Samba working, and this is with Windows XP which supposedly plays nicely with Samba. I wouldn't know know, I never got Samba working. At this point, I took the Linux CD's, all 6 of them including the rescue CD which seems useless BTW and tossed them, violently I might add, into the dustbin. I have wasted far too much time with this Linux crap and I don't intend to waste another millisecond trying to shoehorn this pile of garbage into my systems. I can see why Linux is free. It doesn't work! I can also see why it is not even making the slightest ding in Microsoft's armour: It, Linux, doesn't work. I'm not sure, but if the Linux users expect people, ordinary people, to spend their lives Googling in order to make Linux work, they are daft. Maybe in 10 years Linux might be able to install and work properly, but for now Linux is too difficult and too buggy for the average user. Karla |
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Vista Is Bad But Linux Is Horrendous!!!!
On Feb 22, 6:56 pm, Joe User wrote:
On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 08:59:43 -0800, karla.bonerstein wrote: I've spent the last 3 days Flattie has once again been spending his life on the Internet looking for whatever problems he can find that other people might have with Linux. After he finds enough (or gets tired of looking), he puts them all together into a little story about himself and what horrors he experienced the other day when he tried to install this new OS he read about called Linux, and then he chooses a new name for himself (for the past few years, he has favored pretending to be female) and posts it to COLA and half a dozen other groups. People, he has been doing this for more than 10 years. I think it must be the most important thing in his life. He never tires of it, and I really don't think he ever will. Play with him all you like, but keep in mind that you're responding to a completely fictitious story posted by some poor schmuck who has had nothing better to do for the past decade. The guy is disturbed. Sorry Joe User but you have no idea what you are talking about. I had to do a little research but I am assuming you are talking about some uber troll that has been loose in comp.os.linux.advocacy. I hate to burst your balloons but you've got the wrong person. I did, in my research, however notice a trend that seems common amongst Linux folks and that is whenever they are losing a thread, and they are losing this one badly, they accuse some person of being a flatfish. I'm a little confused? Is this like Godwin? The reason I ask is because although I only searched a little, and I might be totally off base on this, but I haven't seen any proof that this flatfish really exists? All I see are accusations without any data to confirm them. And you've made the mistake of making a claim without any evidence to support that claim. This is not COLA after all. But, like I said, you are howling up the wrong tree. Now go back to Linux and your strange little group and be a good soldier. Karla. |
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Vista Is Bad But Linux Is Horrendous!!!!
Since when have 'Asteroids' and 'Battleship' been tools.. that is just a
list of executables, some of which will not be standalone, but called by others.. Too funny.. "arachnid" wrote in message newsan.2007.02.22.20.22.40.552282@goawayspammers .com... On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:03:19 -0800, Justin wrote: Few X 2? So you have at least 600 apps on your machine? How many apps I have on my machine is an entirely different question from how many I use. Here's how many are installed on the system: /usr/sbin 157 /usr/bin 107 /usr/sbin 210 /usr/bin 2031 Most of those are part of the default install but I discount the majority because I only use a small portion of them. I call BS on that one! It's easy enough to generate a list of all the applications I use but you'll still refuse to believe me. Ask in the Linux groups, you'll find that around 400 applications is typical of someone who has used Linux for several years and uses both GUI and CLI tools. And note that I'm not saying I use each and every application every day. 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Vista Is Bad But Linux Is Horrendous!!!!
Oh, I get it. What you're saying is Linux installs a bunch of resource
hogging crap of which the average person will never use. Wow, what a wonderful way to spend HDD space! I wish Windows would install 2500+ applications for no good reason! I MUST COLLECT THEM ALL!!!!!!! "arachnid" wrote in message newsan.2007.02.22.20.22.40.552282@goawayspammers .com... On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:03:19 -0800, Justin wrote: Few X 2? So you have at least 600 apps on your machine? How many apps I have on my machine is an entirely different question from how many I use. Here's how many are installed on the system: /usr/sbin 157 /usr/bin 107 /usr/sbin 210 /usr/bin 2031 Most of those are part of the default install but I discount the majority because I only use a small portion of them. I call BS on that one! It's easy enough to generate a list of all the applications I use but you'll still refuse to believe me. Ask in the Linux groups, you'll find that around 400 applications is typical of someone who has used Linux for several years and uses both GUI and CLI tools. And note that I'm not saying I use each and every application every day. However, each is likely to get used at least once over the course of several weeks. 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Here's something to be said for Windows. The apps I need are not Linux
compatible. So no Linux around here! Maybe when Linux can be taken seriously, we'll see more apps being developed for it. But until then....it's Windows and OSX. "NoStop" wrote in message ... Gary wrote: Its not how long it takes to install that counts. Its how long it takes you to get it to work that really counts. Vista a few hours. Linux days, months, years. Another stupid top poster. But in any case, one can be productive with Ubuntu even before it's installed, because you can get it on a LiveCD. :-) Sure one can spend months and years probing all the strengths GNU/Linux offers. Why? Because they're there and the operating system is capable of doing so much beyond just running apps on the desktop. Alas, the same can't be said for any version of Windoze. Cheers. "Dean G." wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 22, 12:22 pm, "Brian W" wrote: "Alias" wrote in message ... Funny, I installed Ubuntu in less than half an hour. Try Ubuntu. www.ubuntu.comOrder the 6.06 CD. They send it to you free and pay the postage. That's still more time than I ever plan to spend installing it on my system So you have no OS ? I know of no recent OS that takes less than 30 minutes to install on a PC. When you consider that Linux also installs many applications, which require a separate and also long installation on other OS's. Thus you are saying that the fastest installing OS is too slow for you, so you are going to use a slower one. Not only that, but if you go with a pre-installed OS, then you are likely going to end up re-installing the OS several times, as even the experts who promote that OS suggest an re-install at least annually, and perhaps more often for power users. Abort, Retry, Fail, Reboot, Reinstall, Remit all of your money to Redmond. Smile, you are one of those people Stalin called "useful". Dean G. -- The "Wow" starts now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyLqUf4cdwc&eurl= |
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COLA = Crap Only Linux A**holes
wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 22, 6:56 pm, Joe User wrote: On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 08:59:43 -0800, karla.bonerstein wrote: I've spent the last 3 days Flattie has once again been spending his life on the Internet looking for whatever problems he can find that other people might have with Linux. After he finds enough (or gets tired of looking), he puts them all together into a little story about himself and what horrors he experienced the other day when he tried to install this new OS he read about called Linux, and then he chooses a new name for himself (for the past few years, he has favored pretending to be female) and posts it to COLA and half a dozen other groups. People, he has been doing this for more than 10 years. I think it must be the most important thing in his life. He never tires of it, and I really don't think he ever will. Play with him all you like, but keep in mind that you're responding to a completely fictitious story posted by some poor schmuck who has had nothing better to do for the past decade. The guy is disturbed. Sorry Joe User but you have no idea what you are talking about. I had to do a little research but I am assuming you are talking about some uber troll that has been loose in comp.os.linux.advocacy. I hate to burst your balloons but you've got the wrong person. I did, in my research, however notice a trend that seems common amongst Linux folks and that is whenever they are losing a thread, and they are losing this one badly, they accuse some person of being a flatfish. I'm a little confused? Is this like Godwin? The reason I ask is because although I only searched a little, and I might be totally off base on this, but I haven't seen any proof that this flatfish really exists? All I see are accusations without any data to confirm them. And you've made the mistake of making a claim without any evidence to support that claim. This is not COLA after all. But, like I said, you are howling up the wrong tree. Now go back to Linux and your strange little group and be a good soldier. Karla. |
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On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:18:27 -0500, Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User
wrote: Since when have 'Asteroids' and 'Battleship' been tools.. First you guys complain that Linux has no games, then you complain that it does. Those were probably brought in by KDE. It aims to be a complete environment with system tools, graphics tools, multimedia, office, educational apps, and games. Altogether it's about 250 megabytes and around 140 applications. See, Linux even has modern state-of-the-art bloat now. that is just a list of executables, Linux binaries rarely have extensions. ".deb" is a packaging format. some of which will not be standalone, but called by others.. The list I posted contains around 400 packages, some of which are large suites like KDE containing up to 140 applications. I discounted dependencies and unwanted applications to arrive at my original estimate of only 200 applications that I actually use. |
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On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:40:30 -0800, Justin wrote:
Oh, I get it. What you're saying is Linux installs a bunch of resource hogging crap of which the average person will never use. Wow, what a wonderful way to spend HDD space! Um, no, Linux applications don't hog anything but drive space until you use them. They don't take up memory, they don't kill the "registry", and they don't cause the OS to crash just by having been installed. They don't even hog much that much drivespace. The /usr/bin directory I listed contains 2031 programs but only requires about 180 megabytes of HD space. You can get a fair idea of how Linux bloat compares to Windows bloat by looking at the installation CD's. With Ubuntu the installation CD contains a Live filesystem plus several hundred top GUI applications (I'm ignoring the extra 500 or so CLI applications) on a single 700M CD. With Vista you need a DVD to hold just the OS installer. I wish Windows would install 2500+ applications for no good reason! I MUST COLLECT THEM ALL!!!!!!! I doubt you'll get past 50 before Windows starts to crawl and gasp. Around 100 it'll probably go comatose. |
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On Feb 22, 9:24 pm, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
[snips] On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:32:04 +0000, Kier wrote: That's all very nice but I have one question? How many months did you spend researching and hunting down hardware that would work with Linux? Zero. I just bought a PC. Or installed on hardware I already had, including three laptops of varying vintage, and three other PCs. And for the majority of my Linux time I used but one distro: Mandrake/Mandriva This is something I simply don't get. The Wintrolls constantly whine about Linux not supporting hardware, but in actual fact, the truth is exactly the opposite. When I drop Linux onto a box, the *last* thing I'm concerned about is whether it will drive the video card, or the NIC, or the sound card. Judging by the kind of hardware you seem to use, that is no surprise. http://groups.google.com/group/comp....c842d22?hl=en& " This machine: processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 6 model name : Celeron (Mendocino) stepping : 5 cpu MHz : 434.365 Installed RAM : 96Mb Win2K *crawls* on this thing. Meanwhile, I've got Ubuntu, using the enlightenment desktop, running Pan and Sylpheed Claws at the moment, and all is good. Hmm, just realized I'm also running mysqld. Should kill that. Funny, though, how I can be running a DB server on such a low- end box and not even be aware of it. "" I'll grant, most of the stuff I buy is neither bleeding edge nor is it gamer-level gear; it is instead desktop-working-machine type hardware, with a few extras (a decent nVidia card instead of the onboard crud, say). You BUY this stuff? I see better stuff put out for the dustman on Wed and Fri. Given that the vast majority of people buying computers are _not_ going to be getting gamer-level gear, the question of hardware support, for most people, is a simple non-issue. Really? Maybe you can explain to a friend of mine how to get Linux to work with his 2 17 inch wide screen LCD monitors and Nvidia card with digital and analog outs. He plugged them into his Windows boxen and they worked fine, albeit he had to tinker with the resolutions to get them the way he liked. Linux? It wouldn't even boot to a GUI. He sat there looking at a "login" prompt wondering what he did wrong, other than expecting Linux to work with 2 monitors. For those wanting bleeding-edge gear and the latest gamer gear, they have *always* had the fun of dealing with crappy drivers and the like, regardless of OS; it usually takes a few rounds to work out the kinks. If they're willing to suffer the hassles in one OS, counting driver issues on another OS as a failing seems pretty silly. So how IS ATI and Linux doing these days? I've asked a number of people about their personal experiences with Linux and each one said the same thing. "Linux is fine if you pick and choose your hardware carefully and if you happen to use a distribution that is well supported and works with your carefully chosen hardware". Linux is fine for most (not all, but most) hardware. Indeed. I buy a machine at the local Mom and pop shop, naked, take it home, plug it in and install. Nowadays I don't even bother asking whether such-and-such video, sound, NIC, etc is on it. If I want something unusual - a RAID 5 controller, say - I'll ask for it, but for a stock box, I go in, drop the cash, walk off with the machine and whether it supports Linux or not simply isn't an issue: it will. At least, I've yet to find a box that won't. All the mom and pop places have gone under. All the superstores sell Vista machines or Macs. Stray far from that tennant and Linux becomes a nightmare. Not really. Not in the slightest, unless, as noted earlier, you're *already* buying gear you *expect* to have issues with, even in Windows. Nvidia, Lexmark and Asus (the brands mentioned I believe) are name brands that work rather well with Windows. You can't get more mainstream than that. How come Linux can't seem to work with them? Oh, and BTW, 'tennant' is Dr Who, you must have mean 'tenet'. Isn't it also French for something akin to "buggger"? As in "You little bugger?" Buggery? Why are Linux users constantly bringing homosexuality into conversations where it does not belong? So how long did you spend doing the research? Or did you just happen to *get lucky* ? If it's 'luck', then I've been 'luckly' six times at least, with deifferent laptops/PCs. Likewise. You buy the box, you install the OS, you don't worry about it. Where's the problem? The problem is Linux. -- Do not contact me at |
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Please understand that I have nothing against Linux, only the trolls that
insist on ramming it down the throats of others.. "arachnid" wrote in message newsan.2007.02.23.02.17.49.805149@goawayspammers .com... On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:18:27 -0500, Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User wrote: Since when have 'Asteroids' and 'Battleship' been tools.. First you guys complain that Linux has no games, then you complain that it does. Those were probably brought in by KDE. It aims to be a complete environment with system tools, graphics tools, multimedia, office, educational apps, and games. Altogether it's about 250 megabytes and around 140 applications. See, Linux even has modern state-of-the-art bloat now. that is just a list of executables, Linux binaries rarely have extensions. ".deb" is a packaging format. some of which will not be standalone, but called by others.. The list I posted contains around 400 packages, some of which are large suites like KDE containing up to 140 applications. I discounted dependencies and unwanted applications to arrive at my original estimate of only 200 applications that I actually use. -- Mike Hall MS MVP Windows Shell/User http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/ |
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Vista Is Bad But Linux Is Horrendous!!!!
Who the blanky blank cares, post your Linux garbage somewhere else, this is a
group for Windows XP, same with Vista, get thee hence " wrote: On Feb 22, 9:24 pm, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote: [snips] On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:32:04 +0000, Kier wrote: That's all very nice but I have one question? How many months did you spend researching and hunting down hardware that would work with Linux? Zero. I just bought a PC. Or installed on hardware I already had, including three laptops of varying vintage, and three other PCs. And for the majority of my Linux time I used but one distro: Mandrake/Mandriva This is something I simply don't get. The Wintrolls constantly whine about Linux not supporting hardware, but in actual fact, the truth is exactly the opposite. When I drop Linux onto a box, the *last* thing I'm concerned about is whether it will drive the video card, or the NIC, or the sound card. Judging by the kind of hardware you seem to use, that is no surprise. http://groups.google.com/group/comp....c842d22?hl=en& " This machine: processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 6 model name : Celeron (Mendocino) stepping : 5 cpu MHz : 434.365 Installed RAM : 96Mb Win2K *crawls* on this thing. Meanwhile, I've got Ubuntu, using the enlightenment desktop, running Pan and Sylpheed Claws at the moment, and all is good. Hmm, just realized I'm also running mysqld. Should kill that. Funny, though, how I can be running a DB server on such a low- end box and not even be aware of it. "" I'll grant, most of the stuff I buy is neither bleeding edge nor is it gamer-level gear; it is instead desktop-working-machine type hardware, with a few extras (a decent nVidia card instead of the onboard crud, say). You BUY this stuff? I see better stuff put out for the dustman on Wed and Fri. Given that the vast majority of people buying computers are _not_ going to be getting gamer-level gear, the question of hardware support, for most people, is a simple non-issue. Really? Maybe you can explain to a friend of mine how to get Linux to work with his 2 17 inch wide screen LCD monitors and Nvidia card with digital and analog outs. He plugged them into his Windows boxen and they worked fine, albeit he had to tinker with the resolutions to get them the way he liked. Linux? It wouldn't even boot to a GUI. He sat there looking at a "login" prompt wondering what he did wrong, other than expecting Linux to work with 2 monitors. For those wanting bleeding-edge gear and the latest gamer gear, they have *always* had the fun of dealing with crappy drivers and the like, regardless of OS; it usually takes a few rounds to work out the kinks. If they're willing to suffer the hassles in one OS, counting driver issues on another OS as a failing seems pretty silly. So how IS ATI and Linux doing these days? I've asked a number of people about their personal experiences with Linux and each one said the same thing. "Linux is fine if you pick and choose your hardware carefully and if you happen to use a distribution that is well supported and works with your carefully chosen hardware". Linux is fine for most (not all, but most) hardware. Indeed. I buy a machine at the local Mom and pop shop, naked, take it home, plug it in and install. Nowadays I don't even bother asking whether such-and-such video, sound, NIC, etc is on it. If I want something unusual - a RAID 5 controller, say - I'll ask for it, but for a stock box, I go in, drop the cash, walk off with the machine and whether it supports Linux or not simply isn't an issue: it will. At least, I've yet to find a box that won't. All the mom and pop places have gone under. All the superstores sell Vista machines or Macs. Stray far from that tennant and Linux becomes a nightmare. Not really. Not in the slightest, unless, as noted earlier, you're *already* buying gear you *expect* to have issues with, even in Windows. Nvidia, Lexmark and Asus (the brands mentioned I believe) are name brands that work rather well with Windows. You can't get more mainstream than that. How come Linux can't seem to work with them? Oh, and BTW, 'tennant' is Dr Who, you must have mean 'tenet'. Isn't it also French for something akin to "buggger"? As in "You little bugger?" Buggery? Why are Linux users constantly bringing homosexuality into conversations where it does not belong? So how long did you spend doing the research? Or did you just happen to *get lucky* ? If it's 'luck', then I've been 'luckly' six times at least, with deifferent laptops/PCs. Likewise. You buy the box, you install the OS, you don't worry about it. Where's the problem? The problem is Linux. -- Do not contact me at |
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Vista Is Bad But Linux Is Horrendous!!!!
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I've asked a number of people about their personal experiences with Linux and each one said the same thing. "Linux is fine if you pick and choose your hardware carefully and if you happen to use a distribution that is well supported and works with your carefully chosen hardware". Stray far from that tennant and Linux becomes a nightmare. So how long did you spend doing the research? Or did you just happen to *get lucky* ? I guess I got lucky with my old ASUS AMD 800 Mhz with 512 PC-100 RAM, a genius sound card and an old ATI video card. I'm tying this message with it now. Alias Hey, I grabbed this curbside donation Dell Dimension 4100, (933Mhz Pentium with 512Mb RAM), pulled out the worthless Winmodem and Creative sound blaster, and booted http://pclinuxos.com LiveCDrom and installed it. Took about 35 minutes. Also stuck in a dual layer Pioneer DVR-111 and a firewire card, new Crystal sound card, and it is running great. Even gave Neal Boortz ( http://boortz.com ), the talk radio show host, some LiveCDs of PCLinuxOS, and Simply Mepis. Linux LiveCDroms should be in every satchel and 'tool' kit, because they work so well, give thousands of great programs, and let the user actually 'own' the computer. I always wipe out the prior OSes of donated computers, because that protects me from lawsuits for using or making charitable contributions of the proprietary leased code of Microsoft, Autodesk, Adobe, and others. (anyone recall the Salvation Army lawsuit? BSA sued, so SA now runs GNU/Linux!). As for the TTF Fonts libraries, there is one available to all of the Open Source community, that is legit and unfettered. search http://google.com/linux for TTF Fonts. Replacing Microsoft with a real working system, total freedom of choice, that is upto 50X faster in most processes, performs concurrent multi-tasking, and is immune to the "114,000 Microsoft Virus Definitions", one new business and one new person per week, since 1997. |
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