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Update KB951847 will not install
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Nathan wrote: Do I really need .NET Framework 3.5? Don't know. I would gather that if you have it uninstalled now and nothing else is *not* working - you don't/didn't need it. The .NET Frameworks are just bases for software writers to use in their applications if they so desire - so their code doesn't have to be quite so large and so that they have access to some internal mechanisms in easier/better ways. Unfortunately - the .NET Frameworks were not cumulative. 1.1, 2.0, 3.0, 3.5 and soon 4.0. Yay. Do you *need* any/all of them - depends on what you have installed. Most applications will tell you that you need them and/or offer to install them if they do need them. ;-) At this point - if the machine was mine - I would follow these directions: http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...b-1ef8b771dff8 In other words... Use the .NET Cleanup Tool (Method 2), reboot and install the .NET Updates in this order: - .Net Framework 3.5 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...1-508D977D32A6) - .Net Framework 1.1 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...D1E7CF3A3&) - .Net Framework 1.1 SP1 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...353618B38&) Should be good to go. Needs repeating in full? When installing updates using Windows update or Microsoft Update you may receive Error 0x643 or 0x80070643 (23 Oct-09) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982 ===================== Step #1 = Before doing anything else, write down what .NET Framework versions are currently installed: How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed and whether service packs have been applied http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785 Step #2 = Now see Resolution Method 2 in this related KB article... When you try to install an update for the .NET Framework 1.0, 1.1, 2.0, 3.0, or 3.5, you may receive Windows Update error code "0x643" or Windows Installer error code "1603" (ignore the title, if need be) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100 After running the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool, reinstall all .NET Framework versions (but only the ones you wrote down in #1 above) manually using the download links on the page then run Windows Update manually to install security updates for same. NB: If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1) using the tool, reinstalling .NET Framework 3.5 will also install .Net Framework 2.0 SP2 and 3.0 SP2; then Windows Update will offer .NET Framework 3.5 SP1. IMPORTANT! = If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1), reinstall your .NET Framework versions in the following order: 1. .Net Framework 3.5, then... 2. .Net Framework 1.1, then... 3. .Net Framework 1.1 SP1 NB: KB923100 references this page: http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archi...30/611355.aspx. Please read ALL of it as well as the related page http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/pages/8904493.aspx before using the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool. -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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Update KB951847 will not install
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Nathan wrote: Do I really need .NET Framework 3.5? Don't know. I would gather that if you have it uninstalled now and nothing else is *not* working - you don't/didn't need it. The .NET Frameworks are just bases for software writers to use in their applications if they so desire - so their code doesn't have to be quite so large and so that they have access to some internal mechanisms in easier/better ways. Unfortunately - the .NET Frameworks were not cumulative. 1.1, 2.0, 3.0, 3.5 and soon 4.0. Yay. Do you *need* any/all of them - depends on what you have installed. Most applications will tell you that you need them and/or offer to install them if they do need them. ;-) At this point - if the machine was mine - I would follow these directions: http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...b-1ef8b771dff8 In other words... Use the .NET Cleanup Tool (Method 2), reboot and install the .NET Updates in this order: - .Net Framework 3.5 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...1-508D977D32A6) - .Net Framework 1.1 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...D1E7CF3A3&) - .Net Framework 1.1 SP1 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...353618B38&) Should be good to go. Needs repeating in full? When installing updates using Windows update or Microsoft Update you may receive Error 0x643 or 0x80070643 (23 Oct-09) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982 ===================== Step #1 = Before doing anything else, write down what .NET Framework versions are currently installed: How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed and whether service packs have been applied http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785 Step #2 = Now see Resolution Method 2 in this related KB article... When you try to install an update for the .NET Framework 1.0, 1.1, 2.0, 3.0, or 3.5, you may receive Windows Update error code "0x643" or Windows Installer error code "1603" (ignore the title, if need be) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100 After running the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool, reinstall all .NET Framework versions (but only the ones you wrote down in #1 above) manually using the download links on the page then run Windows Update manually to install security updates for same. NB: If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1) using the tool, reinstalling .NET Framework 3.5 will also install .Net Framework 2.0 SP2 and 3.0 SP2; then Windows Update will offer .NET Framework 3.5 SP1. IMPORTANT! = If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1), reinstall your .NET Framework versions in the following order: 1. .Net Framework 3.5, then... 2. .Net Framework 1.1, then... 3. .Net Framework 1.1 SP1 NB: KB923100 references this page: http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archi...30/611355.aspx. Please read ALL of it as well as the related page http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/pages/8904493.aspx before using the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool. -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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Update KB951847 will not install
I recently had a problem where a .NET update would not install. I went through all
sorts of contortions, un-installing all the updates, running cleaners, re-installing as-nauseum. The final solution was to download the update install separately, and run it from the HD. The automagic thing just would not work. I never found out why. I don't know if this is applicable to your problems. Mike |
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Update KB951847 will not install
I recently had a problem where a .NET update would not install. I went through all
sorts of contortions, un-installing all the updates, running cleaners, re-installing as-nauseum. The final solution was to download the update install separately, and run it from the HD. The automagic thing just would not work. I never found out why. I don't know if this is applicable to your problems. Mike |
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Update KB951847 will not install
Shenan Stanley wrote:
snip Nathan wrote: Do I really need .NET Framework 3.5? Don't know. I would gather that if you have it uninstalled now and nothing else is *not* working - you don't/didn't need it. The .NET Frameworks are just bases for software writers to use in their applications if they so desire - so their code doesn't have to be quite so large and so that they have access to some internal mechanisms in easier/better ways. Unfortunately - the .NET Frameworks were not cumulative. 1.1, 2.0, 3.0, 3.5 and soon 4.0. Yay. Do you *need* any/all of them - depends on what you have installed. Most applications will tell you that you need them and/or offer to install them if they do need them. ;-) At this point - if the machine was mine - I would follow these directions: http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...b-1ef8b771dff8 In other words... Use the .NET Cleanup Tool (Method 2), reboot and install the .NET Updates in this order: - .Net Framework 3.5 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...1-508D977D32A6) - .Net Framework 1.1 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...D1E7CF3A3&) - .Net Framework 1.1 SP1 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...353618B38&) Should be good to go. Needs repeating in full? When installing updates using Windows update or Microsoft Update you may receive Error 0x643 or 0x80070643 (23 Oct-09) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982 ===================== Step #1 = Before doing anything else, write down what .NET Framework versions are currently installed: How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed and whether service packs have been applied http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785 Step #2 = Now see Resolution Method 2 in this related KB article... When you try to install an update for the .NET Framework 1.0, 1.1, 2.0, 3.0, or 3.5, you may receive Windows Update error code "0x643" or Windows Installer error code "1603" (ignore the title, if need be) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100 After running the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool, reinstall all .NET Framework versions (but only the ones you wrote down in #1 above) manually using the download links on the page then run Windows Update manually to install security updates for same. NB: If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1) using the tool, reinstalling .NET Framework 3.5 will also install .Net Framework 2.0 SP2 and 3.0 SP2; then Windows Update will offer .NET Framework 3.5 SP1. IMPORTANT! = If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1), reinstall your .NET Framework versions in the following order: 1. .Net Framework 3.5, then... 2. .Net Framework 1.1, then... 3. .Net Framework 1.1 SP1 NB: KB923100 references this page: http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archi...30/611355.aspx. Please read ALL of it as well as the related page http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/pages/8904493.aspx before using the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool. So far so good, that did it. Too bad that I had to jump through hoops to have it done. All this time that I was trying to fix it I turned off the Automatic Update. Do you think I can turn it back on? Scarred to touch anything so it won't set me back somewhere else. Thank you for being so patient and helping out. Nathan |
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Update KB951847 will not install
Shenan Stanley wrote:
snip Nathan wrote: Do I really need .NET Framework 3.5? Don't know. I would gather that if you have it uninstalled now and nothing else is *not* working - you don't/didn't need it. The .NET Frameworks are just bases for software writers to use in their applications if they so desire - so their code doesn't have to be quite so large and so that they have access to some internal mechanisms in easier/better ways. Unfortunately - the .NET Frameworks were not cumulative. 1.1, 2.0, 3.0, 3.5 and soon 4.0. Yay. Do you *need* any/all of them - depends on what you have installed. Most applications will tell you that you need them and/or offer to install them if they do need them. ;-) At this point - if the machine was mine - I would follow these directions: http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...b-1ef8b771dff8 In other words... Use the .NET Cleanup Tool (Method 2), reboot and install the .NET Updates in this order: - .Net Framework 3.5 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...1-508D977D32A6) - .Net Framework 1.1 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...D1E7CF3A3&) - .Net Framework 1.1 SP1 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...353618B38&) Should be good to go. Needs repeating in full? When installing updates using Windows update or Microsoft Update you may receive Error 0x643 or 0x80070643 (23 Oct-09) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982 ===================== Step #1 = Before doing anything else, write down what .NET Framework versions are currently installed: How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed and whether service packs have been applied http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785 Step #2 = Now see Resolution Method 2 in this related KB article... When you try to install an update for the .NET Framework 1.0, 1.1, 2.0, 3.0, or 3.5, you may receive Windows Update error code "0x643" or Windows Installer error code "1603" (ignore the title, if need be) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100 After running the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool, reinstall all .NET Framework versions (but only the ones you wrote down in #1 above) manually using the download links on the page then run Windows Update manually to install security updates for same. NB: If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1) using the tool, reinstalling .NET Framework 3.5 will also install .Net Framework 2.0 SP2 and 3.0 SP2; then Windows Update will offer .NET Framework 3.5 SP1. IMPORTANT! = If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1), reinstall your .NET Framework versions in the following order: 1. .Net Framework 3.5, then... 2. .Net Framework 1.1, then... 3. .Net Framework 1.1 SP1 NB: KB923100 references this page: http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archi...30/611355.aspx. Please read ALL of it as well as the related page http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/pages/8904493.aspx before using the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool. So far so good, that did it. Too bad that I had to jump through hoops to have it done. All this time that I was trying to fix it I turned off the Automatic Update. Do you think I can turn it back on? Scarred to touch anything so it won't set me back somewhere else. Thank you for being so patient and helping out. Nathan |
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http://groups.google.com/group/micro...e5da20a1fc839/ Nathan wrote: Do I really need .NET Framework 3.5? Shenan Stanley wrote: Don't know. I would gather that if you have it uninstalled now and nothing else is *not* working - you don't/didn't need it. The .NET Frameworks are just bases for software writers to use in their applications if they so desire - so their code doesn't have to be quite so large and so that they have access to some internal mechanisms in easier/better ways. Unfortunately - the .NET Frameworks were not cumulative. 1.1, 2.0, 3.0, 3.5 and soon 4.0. Yay. Do you *need* any/all of them - depends on what you have installed. Most applications will tell you that you need them and/or offer to install them if they do need them. ;-) At this point - if the machine was mine - I would follow these directions: http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...b-1ef8b771dff8 In other words... Use the .NET Cleanup Tool (Method 2), reboot and install the .NET Updates in this order: - .Net Framework 3.5 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...1-508D977D32A6) - .Net Framework 1.1 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...D1E7CF3A3&) - .Net Framework 1.1 SP1 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...353618B38&) Should be good to go. Needs repeating in full? When installing updates using Windows update or Microsoft Update you may receive Error 0x643 or 0x80070643 (23 Oct-09) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982 ===================== Step #1 = Before doing anything else, write down what .NET Framework versions are currently installed: How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed and whether service packs have been applied http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785 Step #2 = Now see Resolution Method 2 in this related KB article... When you try to install an update for the .NET Framework 1.0, 1.1, 2.0, 3.0, or 3.5, you may receive Windows Update error code "0x643" or Windows Installer error code "1603" (ignore the title, if need be) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100 After running the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool, reinstall all .NET Framework versions (but only the ones you wrote down in #1 above) manually using the download links on the page then run Windows Update manually to install security updates for same. NB: If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1) using the tool, reinstalling .NET Framework 3.5 will also install .Net Framework 2.0 SP2 and 3.0 SP2; then Windows Update will offer .NET Framework 3.5 SP1. IMPORTANT! = If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1), reinstall your .NET Framework versions in the following order: 1. .Net Framework 3.5, then... 2. .Net Framework 1.1, then... 3. .Net Framework 1.1 SP1 NB: KB923100 references this page: http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archi...30/611355.aspx. Please read ALL of it as well as the related page http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/pages/8904493.aspx before using the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool. Nathan wrote: So far so good, that did it. Too bad that I had to jump through hoops to have it done. All this time that I was trying to fix it I turned off the Automatic Update. Do you think I can turn it back on? Scarred to touch anything so it won't set me back somewhere else. Thank you for being so patient and helping out. On my Windows XP machines (personal) I have automatic updates set to "Notify me but don't automatically download or install them" and generally when I get notified, I visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and do a custom scan for updates and review/install what it finds under all categories other than "Optional Hardware" as I see fit. Some I will hide, some I will install. In this way I still get notified of updates when they are released (out-of-band in particular) - but I have the control, I make the decision on what is to be installed and it gives me the time to take any extra precautions I deem necessary first. Most of the time it is nothing more than an extra backups, system state backup - sometimes it can be a full image of my system partition. Depends on what I discover (I will lurk the newsgroups here - particularly the WindowsUpdate newsgroup - and see if others start reporting issues before I do anything.) I'm glad you have things sorted thus far! -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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http://groups.google.com/group/micro...e5da20a1fc839/ Nathan wrote: Do I really need .NET Framework 3.5? Shenan Stanley wrote: Don't know. I would gather that if you have it uninstalled now and nothing else is *not* working - you don't/didn't need it. The .NET Frameworks are just bases for software writers to use in their applications if they so desire - so their code doesn't have to be quite so large and so that they have access to some internal mechanisms in easier/better ways. Unfortunately - the .NET Frameworks were not cumulative. 1.1, 2.0, 3.0, 3.5 and soon 4.0. Yay. Do you *need* any/all of them - depends on what you have installed. Most applications will tell you that you need them and/or offer to install them if they do need them. ;-) At this point - if the machine was mine - I would follow these directions: http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...b-1ef8b771dff8 In other words... Use the .NET Cleanup Tool (Method 2), reboot and install the .NET Updates in this order: - .Net Framework 3.5 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...1-508D977D32A6) - .Net Framework 1.1 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...D1E7CF3A3&) - .Net Framework 1.1 SP1 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...353618B38&) Should be good to go. Needs repeating in full? When installing updates using Windows update or Microsoft Update you may receive Error 0x643 or 0x80070643 (23 Oct-09) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982 ===================== Step #1 = Before doing anything else, write down what .NET Framework versions are currently installed: How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed and whether service packs have been applied http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785 Step #2 = Now see Resolution Method 2 in this related KB article... When you try to install an update for the .NET Framework 1.0, 1.1, 2.0, 3.0, or 3.5, you may receive Windows Update error code "0x643" or Windows Installer error code "1603" (ignore the title, if need be) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100 After running the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool, reinstall all .NET Framework versions (but only the ones you wrote down in #1 above) manually using the download links on the page then run Windows Update manually to install security updates for same. NB: If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1) using the tool, reinstalling .NET Framework 3.5 will also install .Net Framework 2.0 SP2 and 3.0 SP2; then Windows Update will offer .NET Framework 3.5 SP1. IMPORTANT! = If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1), reinstall your .NET Framework versions in the following order: 1. .Net Framework 3.5, then... 2. .Net Framework 1.1, then... 3. .Net Framework 1.1 SP1 NB: KB923100 references this page: http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archi...30/611355.aspx. Please read ALL of it as well as the related page http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/pages/8904493.aspx before using the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool. Nathan wrote: So far so good, that did it. Too bad that I had to jump through hoops to have it done. All this time that I was trying to fix it I turned off the Automatic Update. Do you think I can turn it back on? Scarred to touch anything so it won't set me back somewhere else. Thank you for being so patient and helping out. On my Windows XP machines (personal) I have automatic updates set to "Notify me but don't automatically download or install them" and generally when I get notified, I visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and do a custom scan for updates and review/install what it finds under all categories other than "Optional Hardware" as I see fit. Some I will hide, some I will install. In this way I still get notified of updates when they are released (out-of-band in particular) - but I have the control, I make the decision on what is to be installed and it gives me the time to take any extra precautions I deem necessary first. Most of the time it is nothing more than an extra backups, system state backup - sometimes it can be a full image of my system partition. Depends on what I discover (I will lurk the newsgroups here - particularly the WindowsUpdate newsgroup - and see if others start reporting issues before I do anything.) I'm glad you have things sorted thus far! -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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Shenan Stanley wrote:
snip Nathan wrote: So far so good, that did it. Too bad that I had to jump through hoops to have it done. All this time that I was trying to fix it I turned off the Automatic Update. Do you think I can turn it back on? Scarred to touch anything so it won't set me back somewhere else. Thank you for being so patient and helping out. On my Windows XP machines (personal) I have automatic updates set to "Notify me but don't automatically download or install them" and generally when I get notified, I visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and do a custom scan for updates and review/install what it finds under all categories other than "Optional Hardware" as I see fit. Some I will hide, some I will install. In this way I still get notified of updates when they are released (out-of-band in particular) - but I have the control, I make the decision on what is to be installed and it gives me the time to take any extra precautions I deem necessary first. Most of the time it is nothing more than an extra backups, system state backup - sometimes it can be a full image of my system partition. Depends on what I discover (I will lurk the newsgroups here - particularly the WindowsUpdate newsgroup - and see if others start reporting issues before I do anything.) I'm glad you have things sorted thus far! Thanks again...one more question... how do I HIDE and update? Nathan |
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Shenan Stanley wrote:
snip Nathan wrote: So far so good, that did it. Too bad that I had to jump through hoops to have it done. All this time that I was trying to fix it I turned off the Automatic Update. Do you think I can turn it back on? Scarred to touch anything so it won't set me back somewhere else. Thank you for being so patient and helping out. On my Windows XP machines (personal) I have automatic updates set to "Notify me but don't automatically download or install them" and generally when I get notified, I visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and do a custom scan for updates and review/install what it finds under all categories other than "Optional Hardware" as I see fit. Some I will hide, some I will install. In this way I still get notified of updates when they are released (out-of-band in particular) - but I have the control, I make the decision on what is to be installed and it gives me the time to take any extra precautions I deem necessary first. Most of the time it is nothing more than an extra backups, system state backup - sometimes it can be a full image of my system partition. Depends on what I discover (I will lurk the newsgroups here - particularly the WindowsUpdate newsgroup - and see if others start reporting issues before I do anything.) I'm glad you have things sorted thus far! Thanks again...one more question... how do I HIDE and update? Nathan |
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http://groups.google.com/group/micro...e5da20a1fc839/ Shenan Stanley wrote: snipped I'm glad you have things sorted thus far! Nathan wrote: Thanks again...one more question... how do I HIDE and update? Look through these: http://forums.techguy.org/windows-xp...-you-hide.html http://www.computing.net/answers/win...es/167130.html http://forums.techguy.org/windows-xp...ws-update.html -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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http://groups.google.com/group/micro...e5da20a1fc839/ Shenan Stanley wrote: snipped I'm glad you have things sorted thus far! Nathan wrote: Thanks again...one more question... how do I HIDE and update? Look through these: http://forums.techguy.org/windows-xp...-you-hide.html http://www.computing.net/answers/win...es/167130.html http://forums.techguy.org/windows-xp...ws-update.html -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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