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On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 16:48:27 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote: CCleaner usually finds a big list of registry entries designated as surplus after I've installed, uninstalled or upgraded anything big. I've no idea what they are, but I always tell it to remove all of them. Never had any problems as a result of doing this. Consider yourself lucky. Let me point out that neither I nor anyone else who warns against the use of registry cleaners has ever said that they always cause problems. If they always caused problems, they would disappear from the market almost immediately. Many people have used a registry cleaner and never had a problem with it. In my case, it's *never* caused a problem, and I've been using it to manage several computers for several years. I appreciate that it *could* cause problems, but so could lots of things, and it simply hasn't. It seems sensible to me to take precautions appropriate to the level of risk. Rather, the problem with a registry cleaner is that it carries with it the substantial *risk* of having a problem. And since there is no benefit to using a registry cleaner, running that risk is a very bad bargain. What's the worst that could happen? I might have to reinstall Windows, then do a bit of reconfiguring, a tedious task but one I've done so often I could do it in my sleep. I wouldn't lose any of my irreplaceable data because it's on a different drive within the computer and I have external backups as well. I worry about things that need worrying about, but not this. Rod. |
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On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 15:11:53 -0600, Gordon
wrote: I have been having some problems with my HP Pavilion, running Windows 8.1. It seemed to be loaded up with trash and other forms of malware. I bought an on-line copy of Malwarebites, installed it and ran it this morning. Everything went very well and most of the problems seem to have been eradicated...but, I keep getting a pop-up saying, There was a problem starting C:\Gordon\ApData\Local\ARCADE~1\CATHEL~1.DLL The specified module could not be found. What is causing this, and how can I get rid of it? Thanks, Gordon All is well that ends well, as the old timers used to say. My computer problem seems to have been completely resolved. All my client software seems to be working well and everything is stable. Thanks to all who provided me the information I desperately needed to get this problem resolved. Gordon |
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Gordon wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 15:11:53 -0600, Gordon wrote: I have been having some problems with my HP Pavilion, running Windows 8.1. It seemed to be loaded up with trash and other forms of malware. I bought an on-line copy of Malwarebites, installed it and ran it this morning. Everything went very well and most of the problems seem to have been eradicated...but, I keep getting a pop-up saying, There was a problem starting C:\Gordon\ApData\Local\ARCADE~1\CATHEL~1.DLL The specified module could not be found. What is causing this, and how can I get rid of it? Thanks, Gordon All is well that ends well, as the old timers used to say. My computer problem seems to have been completely resolved. All my client software seems to be working well and everything is stable. Thanks to all who provided me the information I desperately needed to get this problem resolved. Gordon You should consider downloading and running SuperAntiSpyware (the free version), too. It looks for things AntiMalwarebytes doesn't. http://www.superantispyware.com/ Stef |
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Neil wrote on 2/9/2015 9:07 PM:
Regedit is not a "registry cleaner" in the same sense as the programs being discussed. Basically, it's a specialized "word processor" dedicated to the registry. Still, there are risks when using regedit, too. Delete or change the wrong things and the computer can be trashed. Tell us what those are so we can be more aware of what to keep away from. |
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On 10 Feb 2015, Alek wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8: Neil wrote on 2/9/2015 9:07 PM: Regedit is not a "registry cleaner" in the same sense as the programs being discussed. Basically, it's a specialized "word processor" dedicated to the registry. Still, there are risks when using regedit, too. Delete or change the wrong things and the computer can be trashed. Tell us what those are so we can be more aware of what to keep away from. You must be kidding. There are thousands of ways you can totally hose your system by screwing around in the Registry with Regedit. |
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Nil wrote on 2/10/2015 12:52 PM:
On 10 Feb 2015, Alek wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-8: Neil wrote on 2/9/2015 9:07 PM: Regedit is not a "registry cleaner" in the same sense as the programs being discussed. Basically, it's a specialized "word processor" dedicated to the registry. Still, there are risks when using regedit, too. Delete or change the wrong things and the computer can be trashed. Tell us what those are so we can be more aware of what to keep away from. You must be kidding. There are thousands of ways you can totally hose your system by screwing around in the Registry with Regedit. Then regedit is clearly a bigger threat than say CCleaner's registry fixer! |
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On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 13:54:14 -0500, Alek wrote:
Nil wrote on 2/10/2015 12:52 PM: On 10 Feb 2015, Alek wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-8: Neil wrote on 2/9/2015 9:07 PM: Regedit is not a "registry cleaner" in the same sense as the programs being discussed. Basically, it's a specialized "word processor" dedicated to the registry. Still, there are risks when using regedit, too. Delete or change the wrong things and the computer can be trashed. Tell us what those are so we can be more aware of what to keep away from. You must be kidding. There are thousands of ways you can totally hose your system by screwing around in the Registry with Regedit. Then regedit is clearly a bigger threat than say CCleaner's registry fixer! They're different kinds of threats. With Regedit, you're navigating to a particular location within the Registry, reviewing the entry that you find there, and making a decision on whether to leave it alone, change it, or delete it. With most Registry 'cleaners', at least the way some seem to use them, you click to start the program and you click again to make umpteen changes. There's no review step. There *can* be a review step, but some people choose to skip it and blindly allow multiple changes. If things break, it can be pretty hard to find and fix the culprit. By the way, "screwing around in the Registry" isn't limited to Regedit. That's also precisely what Registry 'cleaners' do. |
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Char Jackson wrote on 2/10/2015 2:27 PM:
They're different kinds of threats. With Regedit, you're navigating to a particular location within the Registry, reviewing the entry that you find there, and making a decision on whether to leave it alone, change it, or delete it. With most Registry 'cleaners', at least the way some seem to use them, you click to start the program and you click again to make umpteen changes. There's no review step. There *can* be a review step, but some people choose to skip it and blindly allow multiple changes. If things break, it can be pretty hard to find and fix the culprit. Just for fun, I ran CCleaner and got the following kinds of problems: Missing Shared DLL Unused file extension ActiveX/COM Issue Application Paths Issue Installer Reference Issue Obsolete software key The ActiveX/COM Issues referred to InProcServer32 and LocalServer32. ??? |
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On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 15:50:08 -0600, Gordon
wrote: On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 15:31:34 -0600, philo wrote: On 02/09/2015 03:11 PM, Gordon wrote: I have been having some problems with my HP Pavilion, running Windows 8.1. It seemed to be loaded up with trash and other forms of malware. I bought an on-line copy of Malwarebites, installed it and ran it this morning. Everything went very well and most of the problems seem to have been eradicated...but, I keep getting a pop-up saying, There was a problem starting C:\Gordon\ApData\Local\ARCADE~1\CATHEL~1.DLL The specified module could not be found. What is causing this, and how can I get rid of it? Thanks, Gordon "Arcade" was evidently removed but still exists in startup. See if it's listed in Task Manager and if so, disable it. http://www.groovypost.com/howto/wind...rtup-programs/ I couldn't find anything that I could identify with this problem. It is a DLL but I don't know how to search for a DLL problem. Malwarebytes swallowed some of my DLL files too. I fixed it by removing Malwarebytes. |
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On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 21:26:08 -0500, Paul wrote:
MaywareBytes comes in two versions: 1) Free one-time scanner, which quarantines bad stuff. More accurately, that's an on-demand scanner which can be run anytime you want to run it. I run it several times a year, which seems to be as often as I can remember :-) 2) Commercial purchase version, which offers real-time protection. Intended to stop stuff while the compute is running. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 11:26:23 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 15:50:08 -0600, Gordon wrote: I couldn't find anything that I could identify with this problem. It is a DLL but I don't know how to search for a DLL problem. Malwarebytes swallowed some of my DLL files too. I fixed it by removing Malwarebytes. You did exactly the opposite of what I would have done when you removed MBAM. Of course, it probably goes without saying that MBAM didn't swallow anything that you didn't explicitly tell it to swallow, so if there's fault, it lies with the user. |
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Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 21:26:08 -0500, Paul wrote: MaywareBytes comes in two versions: 1) Free one-time scanner, which quarantines bad stuff. More accurately, that's an on-demand scanner which can be run anytime you want to run it. I run it several times a year, which seems to be as often as I can remember :-) Considering I couldn't even spell the name of the software properly, it's a wonder the answer is even that coherent. Maybe I'll have to write the next one in French or something. I bet that'll work. At least I'll have an excuse it's not my first language. Paul |
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On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 23:32:03 -0500, Paul wrote:
Gene E. Bloch wrote: On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 21:26:08 -0500, Paul wrote: MaywareBytes comes in two versions: 1) Free one-time scanner, which quarantines bad stuff. More accurately, that's an on-demand scanner which can be run anytime you want to run it. I run it several times a year, which seems to be as often as I can remember :-) Considering I couldn't even spell the name of the software properly, it's a wonder the answer is even that coherent. Maybe I'll have to write the next one in French or something. I bet that'll work. At least I'll have an excuse it's not my first language. Paul Well, I'm Mr Picky, and I didn't even notice your typo. I'd suggest Urdu rather than French, just to be contrary :-) -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 20:30:50 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote: On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 11:26:23 +1100, Peter Jason wrote: On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 15:50:08 -0600, Gordon wrote: I couldn't find anything that I could identify with this problem. It is a DLL but I don't know how to search for a DLL problem. Malwarebytes swallowed some of my DLL files too. I fixed it by removing Malwarebytes. You did exactly the opposite of what I would have done when you removed MBAM. Of course, it probably goes without saying that MBAM didn't swallow anything that you didn't explicitly tell it to swallow, so if there's fault, it lies with the user. I would recommend a user applies the quarantine step before deleting anything. |
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I second that always quarantine a file or suspected program before allowing
malware bytes to delete any files. -- AL'S COMPUTERS "Peter Jason" wrote in message ... On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 20:30:50 -0600, Char Jackson wrote: On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 11:26:23 +1100, Peter Jason wrote: On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 15:50:08 -0600, Gordon wrote: I couldn't find anything that I could identify with this problem. It is a DLL but I don't know how to search for a DLL problem. Malwarebytes swallowed some of my DLL files too. I fixed it by removing Malwarebytes. You did exactly the opposite of what I would have done when you removed MBAM. Of course, it probably goes without saying that MBAM didn't swallow anything that you didn't explicitly tell it to swallow, so if there's fault, it lies with the user. I would recommend a user applies the quarantine step before deleting anything. |
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