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Weird W10 Desktop Icon behavior
My desktop is a work in progress. We put many things there and then
move them after using the file. However, the strange part in W10 is that sometimes a file gets written to the desktop, but the icon never appears. If you use File Explorer and go to the desktop, it is there and you can open it, etc., but it's still not showing on the desktop. Then sometime later, maybe hours later, it appears. Yesterday, it put it in the upper left hand corner, a place that I always keep a specific icon called Powerdown. And while I'm complaining about W10 icons, it is constantly moving icons, which drives me nuts. Anyone else see these problems? Especially the first one? |
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Weird W10 Desktop Icon behavior
Todesco wrote: sometimes a file gets written to the desktop, but the icon never appears. Focus on the desktop, then press F5 ? |
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Andy Burns wrote:
Todesco wrote: sometimes a file gets written to the desktop, but the icon never appears. Focus on the desktop, then press F5 ? Yes I have found that the desktop does not always update without an manual F5 when files are moved|created by a process NOT File Explorer. Examples: I have some perl scripts that generate a report or log file temporarily on the desktop for review, or if I download a file with a web browser to the desktop instead of the default Downloads dir... In the above examples the files will show within Explorer under the path C:\Users\USER\Desktop but sometimes not display on the Desktop without a manual F5 refresh. -- Take care, Jonathan ------------------- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com |
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On 2020-05-29 8:57 a.m., Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Andy Burns wrote: Todesco wrote: sometimes a file gets written to the desktop, but the icon never appears. Focus on the desktop, then press F5 ? Yes I have found that the desktop does not always update without an manual F5 when files are moved|created by a process NOT File Explorer. Examples: I have some perl scripts that generate a report or log file temporarily on the desktop for review, or if I download a file with a web browser to the desktop instead of the default Downloads dir... In the above examples the files will show within Explorer under the path C:\Users\USER\Desktop but sometimes not display on the Desktop without a manual F5 refresh. Having to "refresh" a window to get the up-to-date contents... ....how quaint! |
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Weird W10 Desktop Icon behavior
On 29/05/2020 16:57, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Yes I have found that the desktop does not always update without an manual F5 You have done absolutely nothing about it or seek help to resolve it. For example, did you try to delete the file called: "IconCache.db"Â* and then logout and login to your windows account?Â* This will recreate the file automatically.Â*Â* This is just one solution but I doubt you'll ever folllow this method. It is one of the best tried and tested solution around the globe given by yours truly!. -- With over 1.2 billion devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
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Weird W10 Desktop Icon behavior
Alan Baker wrote:
On 2020-05-29 8:57 a.m., Jonathan N. Little wrote: Andy Burns wrote: Todesco wrote: sometimes a file gets written to the desktop, but the icon never appears. Focus on the desktop, then press F5 ? Yes I have found that the desktop does not always update without an manual F5 when files are moved|created by a process NOT File Explorer. Examples: I have some perl scripts that generate a report or log file temporarily on the desktop for review, or if I download a file with a web browser to the desktop instead of the default Downloads dir... In the above examples the files will show within Explorer under the path C:\Users\USER\Desktop but sometimes not display on the Desktop without a manual F5 refresh. Having to "refresh" a window to get the up-to-date contents... ...how quaint! Well, the Desktop is not "a window", but more importantly, the (primary) File Explorer (actually 'Windows Explorer') process actually manages the Desktop [1], so it's not unreasonable to expect changes in File Explorer to reflect on the Desktop. So it maybe your lack of insight which is "quaint"! [1] Just 'Restart' the main 'Windows Explorer' process and see what happens. |
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On 2020-05-29 11:05 a.m., Frank Slootweg wrote:
Alan Baker wrote: On 2020-05-29 8:57 a.m., Jonathan N. Little wrote: Andy Burns wrote: Todesco wrote: sometimes a file gets written to the desktop, but the icon never appears. Focus on the desktop, then press F5 ? Yes I have found that the desktop does not always update without an manual F5 when files are moved|created by a process NOT File Explorer. Examples: I have some perl scripts that generate a report or log file temporarily on the desktop for review, or if I download a file with a web browser to the desktop instead of the default Downloads dir... In the above examples the files will show within Explorer under the path C:\Users\USER\Desktop but sometimes not display on the Desktop without a manual F5 refresh. Having to "refresh" a window to get the up-to-date contents... ...how quaint! Well, the Desktop is not "a window", but more importantly, the (primary) File Explorer (actually 'Windows Explorer') process actually manages the Desktop [1], so it's not unreasonable to expect changes in File Explorer to reflect on the Desktop. So it maybe your lack of insight which is "quaint"! [1] Just 'Restart' the main 'Windows Explorer' process and see what happens. I understand that the Desktop as being discussed is not actually a window. But it is a special case of "places where icons for files and folders can be displayed"... ....and on the Mac, those have all worked properly since only about... ....1984. The Finder has never NEEDED a "Refresh" command. |
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Weird W10 Desktop Icon behavior
Frank Slootweg wrote:
Alan Baker wrote: On 2020-05-29 8:57 a.m., Jonathan N. Little wrote: Andy Burns wrote: Todesco wrote: sometimes a file gets written to the desktop, but the icon never appears. Focus on the desktop, then press F5 ? Yes I have found that the desktop does not always update without an manual F5 when files are moved|created by a process NOT File Explorer. Examples: I have some perl scripts that generate a report or log file temporarily on the desktop for review, or if I download a file with a web browser to the desktop instead of the default Downloads dir... In the above examples the files will show within Explorer under the path C:\Users\USER\Desktop but sometimes not display on the Desktop without a manual F5 refresh. Having to "refresh" a window to get the up-to-date contents... ...how quaint! Well, the Desktop is not "a window", but more importantly, the (primary) File Explorer (actually 'Windows Explorer') process actually manages the Desktop [1], so it's not unreasonable to expect changes in File Explorer to reflect on the Desktop. So it maybe your lack of insight which is "quaint"! [1] Just 'Restart' the main 'Windows Explorer' process and see what happens. The "refresh bugs", as a class, have been around for a long time. Microsoft appears to have fixed the problems individually, and some poor developer must have spent years tracking the stuff down. It went from "epidemic!" to "kinda sorta fixed" over the years. I would not want to declare "fresh epidemic!" until Art Todesco has at least tried F5 a few times, and concluded it really does take an F5 to accelerate recognition. It it's taking a long time (but eventually the icons show up), then some software process could be timing out, and some process with a much longer interval is doing cleanup. The idea is pretty simple. The file system is journaled, and every time a file changes, processes or threads "registered" with the journal, are informed "something changed". The registered pieces of software, have to apply a filter, to decide whether the event is needed for something they're doing right now. The desktop icons could be coming from two or more folders, so what you're seeing is a composed view. Because these problems are not fixed by "a better implementation", like a new journal concept, it means if any of those 7000 developers today, do not follow the canon of "File Explorer Laws", another one of these F5 bugs could show up. I'm pretty sure they have code reviews... they must have code reviews, right ? Shudder They don't have a QA department, so there better be code reviews. Paul |
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😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
On 29/05/2020 16:57, Jonathan N. Little wrote: Yes I have found that the desktop does not always update without an manual F5 You have done absolutely nothing about it or seek help to resolve it. Well I will regret this... For example, did you try to delete the file called: "IconCache.db" Yes, but it is not an icon caching issue. and then logout and login to your windows account? That is about as helpful as Windows-Cure-All-Fix: Reboot. The issue is it shouldn't happen. It's a bug. This will recreate the file automatically. This is just one solution but I doubt you'll ever folllow this method. It is one of the best tried and tested solution around the globe given by yours truly!. It is not that that file does not get created, nor that is does not show in Explorer, it is that the "special" folder that Windows uses as the Desktop at times does not get the signal that a file has been created and therefore does not repaint the desktop. BTW this can also happen in the other "special" folders, the Libraries, Documents, Music, Pictures, etc. If you access via the Library path the file is missing but if you look via the "real" path it will be present. The issue originally occurred with the introduction of the aggregate folder "Library" was introduced. No such issue in Windows XP and earlier. Also the complaint has been posted in Windows support forums for years... -- Take care, Jonathan ------------------- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com |
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Weird W10 Desktop Icon behavior
On 5/29/2020 7:53 AM, Todesco wrote:
My desktop is a work in progress.Â* We put many things there and then move them after using the file.Â* However, the strange part in W10 is that sometimes a file gets written to the desktop, but the icon never appears.Â* If you use File Explorer and go to the desktop, it is there and you can open it, etc., but it's still not showing on the desktop. Then sometime later, maybe hours later, it appears.Â* Yesterday, it put it in the upper left hand corner, a place that I always keep a specific icon called Powerdown.Â* And while I'm complaining about W10 icons, it is constantly moving icons, which drives me nuts.Â* Anyone else see these problems?Â* Especially the first one? sometimes I see files in "C:/Users/..." folders but not in "This PC" folders -- Minister Dale Kelly, Ph.D. https://www.dalekelly.org/ Board Certified Holistic Health Practitioner Board Certified Alternative Medical Practitioner |
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Weird W10 Desktop Icon behavior
On 5/29/2020 7:53 AM, Todesco wrote:
My desktop is a work in progress.Â* We put many things there and then move them after using the file.Â* However, the strange part in W10 is that sometimes a file gets written to the desktop, but the icon never appears.Â* If you use File Explorer and go to the desktop, it is there and you can open it, etc., but it's still not showing on the desktop. Then sometime later, maybe hours later, it appears.Â* Yesterday, it put it in the upper left hand corner, a place that I always keep a specific icon called Powerdown.Â* And while I'm complaining about W10 icons, it is constantly moving icons, which drives me nuts.Â* Anyone else see these problems?Â* Especially the first one? Thanks to all that replied. Next time it comes up, it's F5. |
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