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I know, I know
Stuck on Win XP Pro. Hooray !
I will NOT upgrade as I am 78 yo and am not interested in a learning curve of such significance as Window Tension. My XP Pro laptop is working just fine so why change ? Do not bother to answer because I simply do not care. My problem is as follows. 1) the start menu is too big and off the screen to the right. So I cannot find or select of drag-drop anything over there. 2) my desktop is totally full of icons. I just now added MyPal browser and it installed just fine and i ran it an check some of my websites and it seems to be now maybe my favorite browser. BUT ... I cannot find it in the start menu and I cannot find a desktop icon although I thing I left checked the installation options to add a desktop shortcut. So how can I get to see all of the start menu ? How can I find the desktop icon ? WAIT, I did keep hitting 'M' and stepped through the 'M' icons but MyPal did not show up. Help please. P.S. Run MyPal does start MyPal so at least I can get it opened. |
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"OhMy" wrote
| My problem is as follows. | 1) the start menu is too big and off the screen to the right. So I | cannot find or select of drag-drop anything over there. | | 2) my desktop is totally full of icons. | Sounds like it's time for some housekeeping. First, go into Control Panel - Add/Remove and uninstall any software you don't use. The n right-click the Start Menu and click Open. Then right-click the StartMenu and click Open All Users. The Start Menu is created from the Programs folders in these two folders. Start deleting things you don't need. What I like to do is to make folders named Utilities, Network, Office, Graphics, etc. Then I put all shortucts to programs into one of those folders. Then I delete all the other crap -- the 5 other shortcuts that most programs dump into a Start Menu subfolder. There's no easy shortcut method that I know of. It's like asking how to get rid of the 2' pile of dirty clothes that cover your bedroom floor. You get rid of them by doing laundry and putting them away. |
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On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 12:48:24 -0800, OhMy wrote:
Stuck on Win XP Pro. Hooray ! I will NOT upgrade as I am 78 yo and am not interested in a learning curve of such significance as Window Tension. My XP Pro laptop is working just fine so why change ? Do not bother to answer because I simply do not care. My problem is as follows. 1) the start menu is too big and off the screen to the right. So I cannot find or select of drag-drop anything over there. 2) my desktop is totally full of icons. I just now added MyPal browser and it installed just fine and i ran it an check some of my websites and it seems to be now maybe my favorite browser. BUT ... I cannot find it in the start menu and I cannot find a desktop icon although I thing I left checked the installation options to add a desktop shortcut. So how can I get to see all of the start menu ? How can I find the desktop icon ? WAIT, I did keep hitting 'M' and stepped through the 'M' icons but MyPal did not show up. Help please. P.S. Run MyPal does start MyPal so at least I can get it opened. First you probably need to clean up your desktop a little. I am an icon junkie too but I figured out if you create a folder on the desk top for each similar type it helps you sort them out (video tools, web sites, audio tools etc). |
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On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 at 12:48:24, OhMy wrote (my responses
usually follow points raised): Stuck on Win XP Pro. Hooray ! I will NOT upgrade as I am 78 yo and am not interested in a learning curve of such significance as Window Tension. I know what you mean. I was in a similar position a few years ago, and am beginning to feel similar now with Windows 7. I use Classic Shell with 7 - which makes it look how XP did to quite a large extent. (In fact I have it look not dissimilar to how '9x did - for example, my windows have square corners, and the minimise, maximise/restore, and close buttons are the same size and colour.) There are a couple of other shells (though I've seen quite a few saying Classic works well enough on 10). My XP Pro laptop is working just fine so why change ? Do not bother to answer because I simply do not care. I fear more and more web pages will only work with browser versions that won't work on XP (or, later, 7). I know the temptation is to say "I'll never visit those web pages", but you'll have to eventually, or at least your choice will shrink _and_ you'll spend longer and longer on hold, often only to end up speaking to someone who cannot _understand_ the concept of someone who hasn't got a smartphone. My problem is as follows. 1) the start menu is too big and off the screen to the right. So I cannot find or select of drag-drop anything over there. 2) my desktop is totally full of icons. As Mayayana and gfretwell have said, you would probably benefit from making some (more) subfolders in your start menu and desktop. My start menu has subfolders for disc, genealogy, images, internet, sound&video, registry, hardware, PDF, ...; yours will vary. (In general, I make a subfolder if I have more than x similar shortcuts; what x is, is up to you.) You will be irritated that - even though you're the only user - there will be a hierarchy for you and for all users - but you can beat that into submission easily enough. (For the desktop, I find it less useful; although I too have lots of icons, I mostly only use the ones around the edge anyway [I _don't_ operate most windows maximised], as most of the time I can't see others. But each to his own.) I just now added MyPal browser and it installed just fine and i ran it an check some of my websites and it seems to be now maybe my favorite browser. BUT ... I cannot find it in the start menu and I cannot find a desktop icon although I thing I left checked the installation options to add a desktop shortcut. If by any chance you didn't, you can always copy the shortcut (and, optionally, rename the copy) from the start menu folder to the desktop, when doing the above tidying. And perhaps to the quick launch area. So how can I get to see all of the start menu ? See above. If the columns are too _wide_, you have a shortcut (or shortcut folder) with too long a name, which you can edit. How can I find the desktop icon ? WAIT, I did keep hitting 'M' and stepped through the 'M' icons but MyPal did not show up. Sounds like you didn't after all ask for one. (Unless XP doesn't add when the desktop is full; I never got to that point so don't know.) Help please. Hope this does. P.S. Run MyPal does start MyPal so at least I can get it opened. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Everyone looks sun-kissed and beautiful and as you watch it ["Bondi Rescue"], pale and flabby on your sofa, you find yourself wondering if your life could ever be that exotic. (It couldn't. You're British.) - Russell Howard, in Radio Times, 20-26 April 2013 |
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Thank you so much. Shortening the names on the start menu allowed the last column to move into view and be totally readable. Never realized I could do this. Life saver ! J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 at 12:48:24, OhMy wrote (my responses usually follow points raised): Stuck on Win XP Pro.Â*Â* Hooray ! I will NOT upgrade as I am 78 yo and am not interested in a learning curve of such significance as Window Tension. I know what you mean. I was in a similar position a few years ago, and am beginning to feel similar now with Windows 7. I use Classic Shell with 7 - which makes it look how XP did to quite a large extent. (In fact I have it look not dissimilar to how '9x did - for example, my windows have square corners, and the minimise, maximise/restore, and close buttons are the same size and colour.) There are a couple of other shells (though I've seen quite a few saying Classic works well enough on 10). My XP Pro laptop is working just fine so why change ?Â* Do not bother to answer because I simply do not care. I fear more and more web pages will only work with browser versions that won't work on XP (or, later, 7). I know the temptation is to say "I'll never visit those web pages", but you'll have to eventually, or at least your choice will shrink _and_ you'll spend longer and longer on hold, often only to end up speaking to someone who cannot _understand_ the concept of someone who hasn't got a smartphone. My problem is as follows. 1) the start menu is too big and off the screen to the right. So I cannot find or select of drag-drop anything over there. 2) my desktop is totally full of icons. As Mayayana and gfretwell have said, you would probably benefit from making some (more) subfolders in your start menu and desktop. My start menu has subfolders for disc, genealogy, images, internet, sound&video, registry, hardware, PDF, ...; yours will vary. (In general, I make a subfolder if I have more than x similar shortcuts; what x is, is up to you.) You will be irritated that - even though you're the only user - there will be a hierarchy for you and for all users - but you can beat that into submission easily enough. (For the desktop, I find it less useful; although I too have lots of icons, I mostly only use the ones around the edge anyway [I _don't_ operate most windows maximised], as most of the time I can't see others. But each to his own.) I just now added MyPal browser and it installed just fine and i ran it an check some of my websites and it seems to be now maybe my favorite browser. BUT ... I cannot find it in the start menu and I cannot find a desktop icon although I thing I left checked the installation options to add a desktop shortcut. If by any chance you didn't, you can always copy the shortcut (and, optionally, rename the copy) from the start menu folder to the desktop, when doing the above tidying. And perhaps to the quick launch area. So how can I get to see all of the start menu ? See above. If the columns are too _wide_, you have a shortcut (or shortcut folder) with too long a name, which you can edit. How can I find the desktop icon ?Â* WAIT, I did keep hitting 'M' and stepped through the 'M' icons but MyPal did not show up. Sounds like you didn't after all ask for one. (Unless XP doesn't add when the desktop is full; I never got to that point so don't know.) Help please. Hope this does. P.S.Â* Run MyPal does start MyPal so at least I can get it opened. |
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On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 at 10:50:44, OhMy wrote (my
responses usually follow points raised): Thank you so much. Shortening the names on the start menu allowed the last column to move into view and be totally readable. Never realized I could do this. Life saver ! You're welcome! If it's going to several columns, though, I _would_ give some serious thought to creating some sub-menus (e. g. sound, video, internet ...); others here would probably also say do some housekeeping, i. e. delete some, such as the ones you haven't used in the last [you decide]. [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf There's only so much you can do... with gravel. - Charlie Dimmock, RT 2016/7/9-15 |
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote:
On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 at 12:48:24, OhMy wrote (my responses usually follow points raised): Stuck on Win XP Pro. Hooray ! I will NOT upgrade as I am 78 yo and am not interested in a learning curve of such significance as Window Tension. I know what you mean. I was in a similar position a few years ago, and am beginning to feel similar now with Windows 7. It's not just Windows. It's everything. Even web sites. Argh! It's hard to keep up with the fast changing technology as an old fart (not even 50 yet). I didn't even get a smartphone until 2015! I finally went to digital hearing aids in mid 2015. I still prefer analog. I still use lots of old stuff like VGA, PS/2, 3.5mm audio, etc. Older stuff worked better too. These days, they are bloated, expensive, buggy, etc. -- Boo to my new gum bump. Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org. / /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail. | |o o| | \ _ / ( ) |
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"Ant" ha scritto nel messaggio
... It's not just Windows. It's everything. Even web sites. I still prefer analog. I still use lots of old stuff like VGA, PS/2, 3.5mm audio, etc. Older stuff worked better too. These days, they are bloated, expensive, buggy, etc. I agree with you. I say and emphasize that in recent decades, apart from Medicine, progress can be counted on the fingers of one hand (and perhaps some fingers left over). The other novelties are mere useless hateful changes, sometimes for the worse, that factories use to create new products to sell and thus revive the market. GF |
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On 2/10/2021 4:57 PM, Ant wrote:
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote: On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 at 12:48:24, OhMy wrote (my responses usually follow points raised): Stuck on Win XP Pro. Hooray ! I will NOT upgrade as I am 78 yo and am not interested in a learning curve of such significance as Window Tension. I know what you mean. I was in a similar position a few years ago, and am beginning to feel similar now with Windows 7. It's not just Windows. It's everything. Even web sites. Argh! It's hard to keep up with the fast changing technology as an old fart (not even 50 yet). I didn't even get a smartphone until 2015! I finally went to digital hearing aids in mid 2015. I still prefer analog. I still use lots of old stuff like VGA, PS/2, 3.5mm audio, etc. Older stuff worked better too. These days, they are bloated, expensive, buggy, etc. Ant: Most developers think they have "improved your experience" by adding all kinds of "Features" that most people are not interested in. Web site developers these days also tend to think "Change for the sake of change" is a good thing (ditto Windows 10). A while back I downgraded a recently acquired desktop PC from Window 10 to Windows XP. John -- \\\||/// ------------------o000----(o)(o)----000o---------------- ----------------------------()-------------------------- '' Madness takes its toll - Please have exact change. '' |
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"John Dulak" ha scritto nel messaggio
... Most developers think they have "improved your experience" by adding all kinds of "Features" that most people are not interested in. Web site developers these days also tend to think "Change for the sake of change" is a good thing (ditto Windows 10). "Certain programmers know reasons that the Reason doesn't know" |
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On 2021-02-10, Ant wrote:
It's not just Windows. It's everything. Even web sites. Argh! It's hard to keep up with the fast changing technology as an old fart (not even 50 yet). I didn't even get a smartphone until 2015! I finally went to digital hearing aids in mid 2015. I still prefer analog. I still use lots of old stuff like VGA, PS/2, 3.5mm audio, etc. Older stuff worked better too. These days, they are bloated, expensive, buggy, etc. My sentiments, exactly. -- EOT |
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