How to impede W10 from hibernating automatically?

Hi,

I have a laptop with W10 running an app, waiting for something external
to happen, now or in ten days (say). But the daft thing goes to
hibernation after some hours.

I have done what says he

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-start/win10-turn-off-autoshutdown/7dec09c2-3fc0-4e22-b451-b2a1422083d4

+++----------------
a. Press Windows key + X.
b. Click Control Panel.
c. Clicking System and Security, and then clicking Power Options.
d. On the Select a power plan page, click Change plan settings next to
the selected plan.
e. On the Change settings for the plan page, click Change advanced
power settings.
f. On the Advanced settings tab, double-click Sleep, double-click Sleep
after, and then do one of the following:

If you're using a laptop, click On battery or Plugged in (or both),
click the arrow, and then click Never.
If you're using a desktop computer, click Setting, click the arrow, and
then click Never.

g. Double-click Hibernate after, and then do one of the following:

If you're using a laptop, click On battery or Plugged in (or both),
click the arrow, and then click Never.
If you're using a desktop computer, click Setting, click the arrow, and
then click Never.
If you also want the display to stay turned on, double-click
Display, double-click Turn off display after, and then do one of the
following:
If you're using a laptop, click On battery or Plugged in (or both),
click the arrow, and then click Never.
If you're using a desktop computer, click Setting, click the arrow, and
then click Never.

h. Click OK, and then click save changes.
----------------++-


Doesn't work.


Some other way? Maybe rig a motor to hit a key every minute! :-/

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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Carlos E.R. wrote:
....
Some other way? Maybe rig a motor to hit a key every minute! :-/

I have done this with WinBatch, though not on W10 (who would ever use W10,
given the choice?). You write a little script that moves the mouse every
X period of time. It kills the screensaver.

Presumably, it would also kill the hibernation timer.

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On 12/07/2019 20.41, Kenny McCormack wrote:
In article ,
Carlos E.R. wrote:
...
Some other way? Maybe rig a motor to hit a key every minute! :-/

I have done this with WinBatch, though not on W10 (who would ever use W10,
given the choice?). You write a little script that moves the mouse every
X period of time. It kills the screensaver.

Presumably, it would also kill the hibernation timer.


Curious!

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Cheers, Carlos.

In article ,
Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 12/07/2019 20.41, Kenny McCormack wrote:
In article ,
Carlos E.R. wrote:
...
Some other way? Maybe rig a motor to hit a key every minute! :-/

I have done this with WinBatch, though not on W10 (who would ever use W10,
given the choice?). You write a little script that moves the mouse every
X period of time. It kills the screensaver.

Presumably, it would also kill the hibernation timer.


Curious!

What does that mean?

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On 13/07/2019 17.09, Kenny McCormack wrote:
In article ,
Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 12/07/2019 20.41, Kenny McCormack wrote:
In article ,
Carlos E.R. wrote:
...
Some other way? Maybe rig a motor to hit a key every minute! :-/

I have done this with WinBatch, though not on W10 (who would ever use W10,
given the choice?). You write a little script that moves the mouse every
X period of time. It kills the screensaver.

Presumably, it would also kill the hibernation timer.


Curious!

What does that mean?

Oh, maybe it is a translation issue. English is not my first language.
You can replace with "interesting" :-)

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Cheers, Carlos.

Carlos E.R. wrote:
Hi,

I have a laptop with W10 running an app, waiting for something external
to happen, now or in ten days (say). But the daft thing goes to
hibernation after some hours.

I have done what says he

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-start/win10-turn-off-autoshutdown/7dec09c2-3fc0-4e22-b451-b2a1422083d4

+++----------------
a. Press Windows key + X.
b. Click Control Panel.
c. Clicking System and Security, and then clicking Power Options.
d. On the Select a power plan page, click Change plan settings next to
the selected plan.
e. On the Change settings for the plan page, click Change advanced
power settings.
f. On the Advanced settings tab, double-click Sleep, double-click Sleep
after, and then do one of the following:

If you're using a laptop, click On battery or Plugged in (or both),
click the arrow, and then click Never.
If you're using a desktop computer, click Setting, click the arrow, and
then click Never.

g. Double-click Hibernate after, and then do one of the following:

If you're using a laptop, click On battery or Plugged in (or both),
click the arrow, and then click Never.
If you're using a desktop computer, click Setting, click the arrow, and
then click Never.
If you also want the display to stay turned on, double-click
Display, double-click Turn off display after, and then do one of the
following:
If you're using a laptop, click On battery or Plugged in (or both),
click the arrow, and then click Never.
If you're using a desktop computer, click Setting, click the arrow, and
then click Never.

h. Click OK, and then click save changes.
----------------++-


Doesn't work.


Some other way? Maybe rig a motor to hit a key every minute! :-/


https://www.tenforums.com/general-su...rocessing.html

The only problem with investigating control strategies
*while* the machine is doing the thing you want to protect,
is the possibility the method used will screw up.

Using "powercfg /h off" will definitely stop hibernation.
I don't know about sleep though. On my laptop, I don't do that,
because of the risk I walk away and something drains the
battery and needs to hibernate when the battery is flat.

Paul

On 12/07/2019 20.57, Paul wrote:
Carlos E.R. wrote:
Hi,

I have a laptop with W10 running an app, waiting for something external
to happen, now or in ten days (say). But the daft thing goes to
hibernation after some hours.

....

Doesn't work.


Some other way? Maybe rig a motor to hit a key every minute! :-/


https://www.tenforums.com/general-su...rocessing.html


The only problem with investigating control strategies
*while* the machine is doing the thing you want to protect,
is the possibility the method used will screw up.

Using "powercfg /h off" will definitely stop hibernation.
I don't know about sleep though. On my laptop, I don't do that,
because of the risk I walk away and something drains the
battery and needs to hibernate when the battery is flat.

I can try it. I only want to do it when the machine is connected to the mains.
[...]

Trying in the powershell, to see the output. Produces error 0x65b


PS C:\Users\Carlos powercfg /hibernate off
powercfg : Unable to perform operation. An unexpected error (0x65b) has occurred: Function failed during execution.
At line:1 char:1
+ powercfg /hibernate off
+ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
+ CategoryInfo : NotSpecified: (Unable to perfo...ring execution.:String) [], RemoteException
+ FullyQualifiedErrorId : NativeCommandError


PS C:\Users\Carlos powercfg /H off
powercfg : Unable to perform operation. An unexpected error (0x65b) has occurred: Function failed during execution.
At line:1 char:1
+ powercfg /H off
+ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
+ CategoryInfo : NotSpecified: (Unable to perfo...ring execution.:String) [], RemoteException
+ FullyQualifiedErrorId : NativeCommandError



Huh?


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Cheers, Carlos.

Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 12/07/2019 20.57, Paul wrote:
Carlos E.R. wrote:
Hi,

I have a laptop with W10 running an app, waiting for something external
to happen, now or in ten days (say). But the daft thing goes to
hibernation after some hours.

...

Doesn't work.


Some other way? Maybe rig a motor to hit a key every minute! :-/

https://www.tenforums.com/general-su...rocessing.html


The only problem with investigating control strategies
*while* the machine is doing the thing you want to protect,
is the possibility the method used will screw up.

Using "powercfg /h off" will definitely stop hibernation.
I don't know about sleep though. On my laptop, I don't do that,
because of the risk I walk away and something drains the
battery and needs to hibernate when the battery is flat.

I can try it. I only want to do it when the machine is connected to the mains.
[...]

Trying in the powershell, to see the output. Produces error 0x65b


PS C:\Users\Carlos powercfg /hibernate off
powercfg : Unable to perform operation. An unexpected error (0x65b) has occurred: Function failed during execution.
At line:1 char:1
+ powercfg /hibernate off
+ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
+ CategoryInfo : NotSpecified: (Unable to perfo...ring execution.:String) [], RemoteException
+ FullyQualifiedErrorId : NativeCommandError


PS C:\Users\Carlos powercfg /H off
powercfg : Unable to perform operation. An unexpected error (0x65b) has occurred: Function failed during execution.
At line:1 char:1
+ powercfg /H off
+ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
+ CategoryInfo : NotSpecified: (Unable to perfo...ring execution.:String) [], RemoteException
+ FullyQualifiedErrorId : NativeCommandError



Huh?



https://www.tenforums.com/general-su...p-problem.html

"That error code 0x65b occurs if you try to run the command as a standard user.

You must open a Command Prompt or Powershell as an administrator"

HTH,
Paul

On 13/07/2019 19.30, Paul wrote:
Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 12/07/2019 20.57, Paul wrote:
Carlos E.R. wrote:
Hi,

I have a laptop with W10 running an app, waiting for something external
to happen, now or in ten days (say). But the daft thing goes to
hibernation after some hours.

...

Doesn't work.


Some other way? Maybe rig a motor to hit a key every minute! :-/

https://www.tenforums.com/general-su...rocessing.html



The only problem with investigating control strategies
*while* the machine is doing the thing you want to protect,
is the possibility the method used will screw up.

Using "powercfg /h off" will definitely stop hibernation.
I don't know about sleep though. On my laptop, I don't do that,
because of the risk I walk away and something drains the
battery and needs to hibernate when the battery is flat.

I can try it. I only want to do it when the machine is connected to
the mains.
[...]

Trying in the powershell, to see the output. Produces error 0x65b


PS C:\Users\Carlos powercfg /hibernate off
powercfg : Unable to perform operation.Â* An unexpected error (0x65b)
has occurred:Â* Function failed during execution.
At line:1 char:1
+ powercfg /hibernate off
+ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Â*Â*Â* + CategoryInfoÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* : NotSpecified: (Unable to perfo...ring
execution.:String) [], RemoteException
Â*Â*Â* + FullyQualifiedErrorId : NativeCommandError
Â*

PS C:\Users\Carlos powercfg /H off
powercfg : Unable to perform operation.Â* An unexpected error (0x65b)
has occurred:Â* Function failed during execution.
At line:1 char:1
+ powercfg /H off
+ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Â*Â*Â* + CategoryInfoÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* : NotSpecified: (Unable to perfo...ring
execution.:String) [], RemoteException
Â*Â*Â* + FullyQualifiedErrorId : NativeCommandError



Huh?



https://www.tenforums.com/general-su...p-problem.html


Â*Â* "That error code 0x65b occurs if you try to run the command as a
standard user.

Â*Â*Â* You must open a Command Prompt or Powershell as an administrator"

Actually, I was logged in as the administrator. Maybe I have to
explicitly open the powershell as administrator.
[...]
Yes, it accepts the command. I will tell tomorrow if it worked ;-)


Why can not the program give a proper text message saying what the
problem is, instead of a f* number and a few lines of garbage?

What would be the trick with a batch file (with this command) to make it
run as administrator, right click and then run as administrator?

--
Cheers, Carlos.

On 13/07/2019 19:28, Carlos E.R. wrote:
What would be the trick with a batch file

The trick is to stop dealing in south American drugs on these public
newsgroups. Hispanics like you are serial offenders and there is enough
Donald Trump can do to stop illegal migrants like you or that Ocasio
woman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to live in the States.




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Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 13/07/2019 19.30, Paul wrote:
Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 12/07/2019 20.57, Paul wrote:
Carlos E.R. wrote:
Hi,

I have a laptop with W10 running an app, waiting for something external
to happen, now or in ten days (say). But the daft thing goes to
hibernation after some hours.
...

Doesn't work.


Some other way? Maybe rig a motor to hit a key every minute! :-/

https://www.tenforums.com/general-su...rocessing.html



The only problem with investigating control strategies
*while* the machine is doing the thing you want to protect,
is the possibility the method used will screw up.

Using "powercfg /h off" will definitely stop hibernation.
I don't know about sleep though. On my laptop, I don't do that,
because of the risk I walk away and something drains the
battery and needs to hibernate when the battery is flat.
I can try it. I only want to do it when the machine is connected to
the mains.
[...]

Trying in the powershell, to see the output. Produces error 0x65b


PS C:\Users\Carlos powercfg /hibernate off
powercfg : Unable to perform operation. An unexpected error (0x65b)
has occurred: Function failed during execution.
At line:1 char:1
+ powercfg /hibernate off
+ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
+ CategoryInfo : NotSpecified: (Unable to perfo...ring
execution.:String) [], RemoteException
+ FullyQualifiedErrorId : NativeCommandError


PS C:\Users\Carlos powercfg /H off
powercfg : Unable to perform operation. An unexpected error (0x65b)
has occurred: Function failed during execution.
At line:1 char:1
+ powercfg /H off
+ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
+ CategoryInfo : NotSpecified: (Unable to perfo...ring
execution.:String) [], RemoteException
+ FullyQualifiedErrorId : NativeCommandError



Huh?


https://www.tenforums.com/general-su...p-problem.html


"That error code 0x65b occurs if you try to run the command as a
standard user.

You must open a Command Prompt or Powershell as an administrator"

Actually, I was logged in as the administrator. Maybe I have to
explicitly open the powershell as administrator.
[...]
Yes, it accepts the command. I will tell tomorrow if it worked ;-)


Why can not the program give a proper text message saying what the
problem is, instead of a f* number and a few lines of garbage?

What would be the trick with a batch file (with this command) to make it
run as administrator, right click and then run as administrator?


I would recommend you install a GUI program with click-able
radio buttons for the operating mode you desire.

powercfg /h off is the kind of command you use for a permanent
fix, which would not be appropriate for a laptop really. It was
only offered as an illustration. Something more "nuanced" is
required to offer the proper degree of dynamic control.

Perhaps psexec could be used. I only use this for one purpose,
and haven't tried a wealth of options on it. Maybe you could
craft a shortcut of some sort with it ?

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sys...wnloads/psexec

For example:

psexec64 -hsi cmd.exe

raises a Command Prompt window to SYSTEM authority.

Whatever you use, outside of Scheduled Tasks, is likely
to present a UAC prompt when it needs the Impersonate
privilege from the administrator group capability.

*******

You can also have a play with this - "Runas" aka "Run As".

And a shortcut might have a place to specify the account used.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/pre...28v%3Dws.11%29

runas /user:localmachinename\administrator cmd

Paul

On 12/07/2019 14:54, Carlos E.R. wrote:
Hi,

I have a laptop with W10 running an app, waiting for something external
to happen, now or in ten days (say). But the daft thing goes to
hibernation after some hours.


cmd prompt as administrator then run this:

powercfg.exe /h off

Exit cmd prompt and the problem is solved.





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On 12/07/2019 14:54, Carlos E.R. wrote:
Hi,

I have a laptop with W10 running an app, waiting for something external
to happen, now or in ten days (say). But the daft thing goes to
hibernation after some hours.

I have done what says he

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-start/win10-turn-off-autoshutdown/7dec09c2-3fc0-4e22-b451-b2a1422083d4

+++----------------
a. Press Windows key + X.
b. Click Control Panel.
c. Clicking System and Security, and then clicking Power Options.
d. On the Select a power plan page, click Change plan settings next to
the selected plan.
e. On the Change settings for the plan page, click Change advanced
power settings.
f. On the Advanced settings tab, double-click Sleep, double-click Sleep
after, and then do one of the following:

If you're using a laptop, click On battery or Plugged in (or both),
click the arrow, and then click Never.
If you're using a desktop computer, click Setting, click the arrow, and
then click Never.

g. Double-click Hibernate after, and then do one of the following:

If you're using a laptop, click On battery or Plugged in (or both),
click the arrow, and then click Never.
If you're using a desktop computer, click Setting, click the arrow, and
then click Never.
If you also want the display to stay turned on, double-click
Display, double-click Turn off display after, and then do one of the
following:
If you're using a laptop, click On battery or Plugged in (or both),
click the arrow, and then click Never.
If you're using a desktop computer, click Setting, click the arrow, and
then click Never.

h. Click OK, and then click save changes.
----------------++-


Doesn't work.


Some other way? Maybe rig a motor to hit a key every minute! :-/

Go to Power options, Advanced settings, Sleep
Change drop down entries for both Sleep and Hibernate to "Never"

On 12/07/2019 22.09, MikeS wrote:
On 12/07/2019 14:54, Carlos E.R. wrote:
Hi,

I have a laptop with W10 running an app, waiting for something external
to happen, now or in ten days (say). But the daft thing goes to
hibernation after some hours.

I have done what says he

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-start/win10-turn-off-autoshutdown/7dec09c2-3fc0-4e22-b451-b2a1422083d4


+++----------------
a. Press Windows key + X.
Â* b. Click Control Panel.
Â* c. Clicking System and Security, and then clicking Power Options.
Â* d. On the Select a power plan page, click Change plan settings next to
the selected plan.
Â* e. On the Change settings for the plan page, click Change advanced
power settings.
Â* f. On the Advanced settings tab, double-click Sleep, double-click Sleep
after, and then do one of the following:

Â* If you're using a laptop, click On battery or Plugged in (or both),
click the arrow, and then click Never.
Â* If you're using a desktop computer, click Setting, click the arrow, and
then click Never.

Â* g. Double-click Hibernate after, and then do one of the following:

Â* If you're using a laptop, click On battery or Plugged in (or both),
click the arrow, and then click Never.
Â* If you're using a desktop computer, click Setting, click the arrow, and
then click Never.
Â* If you also want the display to stay turned on, double-click
Â* Display, double-click Turn off display after, and then do one of the
following:
Â* If you're using a laptop, click On battery or Plugged in (or both),
click the arrow, and then click Never.
Â* If you're using a desktop computer, click Setting, click the arrow, and
then click Never.

Â* h. Click OK, and then click save changes.
----------------++-


Doesn't work.


Some other way? Maybe rig a motor to hit a key every minute! :-/

Go to Power options, Advanced settings, Sleep
Change drop down entries for both Sleep and Hibernate to "Never"


Well, hibernate is set to never, yet it hibernates automatically after
some hours. it doesn't sleep, it hibernates. I don't want to disable sleep.


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"Carlos E.R." wrote in message
news
Hi,

I have a laptop with W10 running an app, waiting for something external
to happen, now or in ten days (say). But the daft thing goes to
hibernation after some hours.

I have done what says he

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-start/win10-turn-off-autoshutdown/7dec09c2-3fc0-4e22-b451-b2a1422083d4

+++----------------
a. Press Windows key + X.
b. Click Control Panel.
c. Clicking System and Security, and then clicking Power Options.
d. On the Select a power plan page, click Change plan settings next to
the selected plan.
e. On the Change settings for the plan page, click Change advanced
power settings.
f. On the Advanced settings tab, double-click Sleep, double-click Sleep
after, and then do one of the following:

If you're using a laptop, click On battery or Plugged in (or both),
click the arrow, and then click Never.
If you're using a desktop computer, click Setting, click the arrow, and
then click Never.

g. Double-click Hibernate after, and then do one of the following:

If you're using a laptop, click On battery or Plugged in (or both),
click the arrow, and then click Never.
If you're using a desktop computer, click Setting, click the arrow, and
then click Never.
If you also want the display to stay turned on, double-click
Display, double-click Turn off display after, and then do one of the
following:
If you're using a laptop, click On battery or Plugged in (or both),
click the arrow, and then click Never.
If you're using a desktop computer, click Setting, click the arrow, and
then click Never.

h. Click OK, and then click save changes.
----------------++-


Doesn't work.

AFAIK all these, taken from my freeware lists, work with Windows 10 :

-------------
Keep Awake

Auto Mouse Mover - http://www.murgee.com/auto-mouse-mover/
Caffeinated - https://github.com/dmnd/Caffeinated
Caffeine - http://www.loonies.narod.ru/products.htm
Caffeine - http://www.zhornsoftware.co.uk/caffeine/index.html
coffee https://sourceforge.net/projects/cof...able%20Verson/
coffeeff - https://sourceforge.net/projects/coffeeff/
Connection Manager - http://www.steelbytes.com/?mid=5
Don't Sleep - http://www.softwareok.com/?seite=Microsoft/DontSleep
Insomnia - https://dlaa.me/Insomnia/
Keep AliveHD - http://keepalivehd.codeplex.com/
Keep Display On - http://www.dotnetniet.com/index_en.html
Keep Running (any app) -
http://www.freewarefiles.com/Keep-Ru...ram_28993.html
LowToSleep (until inactive) -
http://www.donationcoder.com/Softwar...mel/index.html
MouseJiggler - http://mousejiggler.codeplex.com/
Mouse Monkey - http://www.seabyrdtech.com/bbvideo
Noise - http://www.donationcoder.com/Softwar...mel/index.html
No Sleep - http://www.zeniko.ch/static/software.html#nosleep
No SleepHD - http://nosleephd.codeplex.com/
Prevent Disk Sleep - https://vovsoft.com/software/prevent-disk-sleep/
Shutdown Guard (prevent shutdown) - http://code.google.com/p/shutdownguard/
StayAwake - http://mlesniew.wordpress.com/stayawake/

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wasbit