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Limits of USB hubs.
On Sun, 26 May 2019 14:40:49 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote: On Mon, 27 May 2019 07:31:27 +1000, Peter Jason wrote: On Wed, 22 May 2019 17:58:29 -0400, Paul wrote: Peter Jason wrote: Thanks, I have ordered one, and I'll report back. It was delivered last week. It's about a foot long and looks well made in brushed aluminium. Sadly it comes with a separate transformer instead of the combo with the wall plug, so adding to desk clutter. Dust is a concern so I use it on its side. I have plugged in many external HDDs & thumb drives and their performance is unaltered from previously. So far so good. Glad to hear that, but let me ask a question, just out of curiosity. Why do you need so many USB ports? Under what circumstances do you have so many things plugged into them? I have 7 USB ports on my computer case--four in the back and three in the front. Two in the back are always in use (keyboard and mouse) and I sometimes use one other for am external hard or thumb drive. I can't remember ever using more. I like using the Logitech mouse and keyboards that use the unifying receiver. Instead of having a separate USB receiver for each mouse or keyboard, you have one receiver that can connect to up to 6 mice or keyboards. That really helps when you're using a laptop or some other PC that doesn't have that many USB ports. I use the K780 keyboard and M720 mouse, both devices themselves can connect to 3 different PC's, tablets, or smartphones either through a Logitech unifying USB receiver or through a BlueTooth connection. So I can use this mouse keyboard combo on 3 different devices. Right now I have it set up for my laptop, my smartphone, and this Surface tablet. Switching which devices is easy. With the keyboard the F1, F2, and F3 keys select which channel is being used, and the mouse has a button on the side that changes channels. With the Logitech Options software installed you can enable "Flow" and then just putting your pointer along one (user definable) edge of the screen automatically switches both mouse and keyboard to another device. |
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Limits of USB hubs.
On Sun, 26 May 2019 16:32:31 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote: On Mon, 27 May 2019 09:17:24 +1000, Peter Jason wrote: On Sun, 26 May 2019 14:40:49 -0700, Ken Blake [...snip..] 8/ A "probox" 8xHDD external storage. the rest spare for now. OK, we're all different. To me, most of those things would be used one at a time and I wouldn't have them all plugged in at once. But I'll make two comments: 1. I never charge my phone in a USB port. It's much faster to plug it into a wall power outlet. Me either, I have a Google Pixel 2 XL and it charges much faster using the power adapter that came with it over using a USB port on my laptop. Right now my phone is plugged in and it's at 68%. It's reporting that it will be fully charged in a little over 15 minutes... 2. If you keep your backup drives plugged in all the time, as far as I'm concerned you're taking an unnecessary risk. It is always possible that a user error, nearby lightning strike, virus attack, even theft of the computer, can cause the loss of everything plugged in. My backup drives aren't plugged into my laptop, they're attached to my home LAN. My NAS boxes are next to the router which are in a separate room from all the computers. |
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Limits of USB hubs.
On Sun, 26 May 2019 14:40:49 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote: On Mon, 27 May 2019 07:31:27 +1000, Peter Jason wrote: On Wed, 22 May 2019 17:58:29 -0400, Paul wrote: Peter Jason wrote: Thanks, I have ordered one, and I'll report back. It was delivered last week. It's about a foot long and looks well made in brushed aluminium. Sadly it comes with a separate transformer instead of the combo with the wall plug, so adding to desk clutter. Dust is a concern so I use it on its side. I have plugged in many external HDDs & thumb drives and their performance is unaltered from previously. So far so good. Glad to hear that, but let me ask a question, just out of curiosity. Why do you need so many USB ports? Under what circumstances do you have so many things plugged into them? I have 7 USB ports on my computer case--four in the back and three in the front. Two in the back are always in use (keyboard and mouse) and I forgot the other two always in use: printer and scanner. I sometimes use one other for am external hard or thumb drive. I can't remember ever using more. |
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In article , Ken Blake
wrote: Glad to hear that, but let me ask a question, just out of curiosity. Why do you need so many USB ports? Under what circumstances do you have so many things plugged into them? I have 7 USB ports on my computer case--four in the back and three in the front. Two in the back are always in use (keyboard and mouse) and I forgot the other two always in use: printer and scanner. usually that's the same device, and these days, a printer is usually on the network so that more than just one computer can use it. a lot of printers have wifi so no need to run a separate network cable. |
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Limits of USB hubs.
On Mon, 27 May 2019 15:39:06 -0300, pjp
wrote: Let's see now ... my main system has 10 usb ports, 6 on back, 2 on front plus card reader has one and keyboard has one also. I use Mouse, Keyboard, usb 4 port hub, printer, 3 external hard disks running 24/7 (with hub doing same with 3 more also 24/7 plus external burner) , tv tuner, a joypad, with more as required (GPS device, Flightstick, racing wheel etc.) With all the ports I still only have one free on front to plug in backup external hard disk when required or controller for games etc. PC always has at least 8 hard disks showing in my Computer. 6 are externals, add a mouse, keyboard, tv tuner etc. and I'm happy to still have a free port. I have a second 4 port powered hub if/when required to add more My recommendation for your very next purchase would be a computer case that can accommodate all of the internal drives that you already have, plus the 6 external drives that are permanently connected. That would take care of what must be a huge mess of cables, adapters/docks, and power supplies. :-) My current mid-tower case has 8 3.5" bays and 4 5.25" bays that can hold either 4 or 5 3.5" drives depending on the adapter(s) used, plus 3 m.2 slots, 3 PCIe slots that can accept drive adapters, and of course room for at least one drive on the floor of the case. As a result, I have zero external drives attached. My server case has 15 3.5" bays, plus the usual PCIe slots and lots of room on the floor of the case. There, too, no drives are attached externally. |
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On Tue, 28 May 2019 02:33:24 -0300, pjp
wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 27 May 2019 15:39:06 -0300, pjp wrote: Let's see now ... my main system has 10 usb ports, 6 on back, 2 on front plus card reader has one and keyboard has one also. I use Mouse, Keyboard, usb 4 port hub, printer, 3 external hard disks running 24/7 (with hub doing same with 3 more also 24/7 plus external burner) , tv tuner, a joypad, with more as required (GPS device, Flightstick, racing wheel etc.) With all the ports I still only have one free on front to plug in backup external hard disk when required or controller for games etc. PC always has at least 8 hard disks showing in my Computer. 6 are externals, add a mouse, keyboard, tv tuner etc. and I'm happy to still have a free port. I have a second 4 port powered hub if/when required to add more My recommendation for your very next purchase would be a computer case that can accommodate all of the internal drives that you already have, plus the 6 external drives that are permanently connected. That would take care of what must be a huge mess of cables, adapters/docks, and power supplies. :-) My current mid-tower case has 8 3.5" bays and 4 5.25" bays that can hold either 4 or 5 3.5" drives depending on the adapter(s) used, plus 3 m.2 slots, 3 PCIe slots that can accept drive adapters, and of course room for at least one drive on the floor of the case. As a result, I have zero external drives attached. My server case has 15 3.5" bays, plus the usual PCIe slots and lots of room on the floor of the case. There, too, no drives are attached externally. I'm kappy with way things are. PC is in a corner table so lots of room to hide cables behind monitors (dual monitor setup so plenty of room). I wired it so there's enough plugs for everything without using too many power bars, etc. Only thing off hand I can think of I don't do to ease clutter is my surround sound speakers as that's three wires rather than one. Used in another pc instead. I don't believe I have a pc does more than 4 sata drives (plus an esata connection. One is so old it also has one ide connector (not used presently). I also have a stack of hard disks salvaged from various pcs. I use a special usb cable accepts ide or sata drives and makes it a "bare metal" external. I've found it very usefull many times, typically filling up old 40 & 80 Gb drives with backups of backups of backups LOL . You guys need a life. |
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On Tue, 28 May 2019 21:41:57 +1000, Lucifer
wrote: On Tue, 28 May 2019 02:33:24 -0300, pjp wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 27 May 2019 15:39:06 -0300, pjp wrote: Let's see now ... my main system has 10 usb ports, 6 on back, 2 on front plus card reader has one and keyboard has one also. I use Mouse, Keyboard, usb 4 port hub, printer, 3 external hard disks running 24/7 (with hub doing same with 3 more also 24/7 plus external burner) , tv tuner, a joypad, with more as required (GPS device, Flightstick, racing wheel etc.) With all the ports I still only have one free on front to plug in backup external hard disk when required or controller for games etc. PC always has at least 8 hard disks showing in my Computer. 6 are externals, add a mouse, keyboard, tv tuner etc. and I'm happy to still have a free port. I have a second 4 port powered hub if/when required to add more My recommendation for your very next purchase would be a computer case that can accommodate all of the internal drives that you already have, plus the 6 external drives that are permanently connected. That would take care of what must be a huge mess of cables, adapters/docks, and power supplies. :-) My current mid-tower case has 8 3.5" bays and 4 5.25" bays that can hold either 4 or 5 3.5" drives depending on the adapter(s) used, plus 3 m.2 slots, 3 PCIe slots that can accept drive adapters, and of course room for at least one drive on the floor of the case. As a result, I have zero external drives attached. My server case has 15 3.5" bays, plus the usual PCIe slots and lots of room on the floor of the case. There, too, no drives are attached externally. I'm kappy with way things are. PC is in a corner table so lots of room to hide cables behind monitors (dual monitor setup so plenty of room). I wired it so there's enough plugs for everything without using too many power bars, etc. Only thing off hand I can think of I don't do to ease clutter is my surround sound speakers as that's three wires rather than one. Used in another pc instead. I don't believe I have a pc does more than 4 sata drives (plus an esata connection. One is so old it also has one ide connector (not used presently). I also have a stack of hard disks salvaged from various pcs. I use a special usb cable accepts ide or sata drives and makes it a "bare metal" external. I've found it very usefull many times, typically filling up old 40 & 80 Gb drives with backups of backups of backups LOL . You guys need a life. They also serve who only stand & prate! |
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On Tue, 28 May 2019 10:54:41 -0300, pjp
wrote: Agreed Problem is I live in middle of nowhere, Nova Scotia, Canada and gas ain't cheap nor is car maintainance on my dirt road. It might be cheaper to run your car on petrol due to greater availability. |
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