O.T. - Connection Problem:

Here's the 780 Network
Connection for comparison:

http://i63.tinypic.com/muy89f.jpg

Robert

Mark Twain wrote:
I did a scan on Agent Ransack for
Google Chrome:

http://i68.tinypic.com/2cmq83s.jpg

then did a Startsearch and typed in
Chrome and it gave me this:

http://i66.tinypic.com/x1detc.jpg

and so I deleted it.

Robert

The thing you deleted is the standalone installer.
Rather than the web installer stub people normally
use. That's probably just minding its own business
there and not bothering anyone.

You should try a search for "Google" to find the
"Google Updater" or whatever. The names of the
items should be in my picture.

https://s10.postimg.org/a6xwmbw09/google_annoy.gif

"GoogleUpdate.exe"

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Google"

So a search term like "Google" should start to dig those
things up.

And the "Program Files (x86)\Google" folder will be owned by
TrustedInstaller. So be ready for a fight... :-)
It's a computer after all, and never does anything
without a fight.

Paul

Mark Twain wrote:
Here's the 780 Network
Connection for comparison:

http://i63.tinypic.com/muy89f.jpg

Robert

Nice and simple. Nothing to go wrong :-)

Paul

The file I deleted was a Google Update Setup

http://i66.tinypic.com/2wf36ab.jpg

Robert

Mark Twain wrote:
The file I deleted was a Google Update Setup

http://i66.tinypic.com/2wf36ab.jpg

Robert

But at the top of the dialog in the picture, it mentions
Chrome Standalone. I think Google Update is just a part
of the package and not the whole thing. The package is
kinda mis-labeled. The Chrome Standalone is maybe 45MB,
and the Google Update portion (services, Task Schedule
entry and so on) might be a 1MB portion of that.

It wouldn't be like them, to make the Google Update
portion, easily removable. Although you can see the
component parts can be swatted one at a time, with
a fly swatter.

There is a theory that Google Updater will uninstall itself
if there are no Google software products still on the computer,
but switching it off yourself is more satisfying.

Paul

Agreed, but that was the only application
I was able to find.

As for the connection problem,, it has been
acting normally the few days with no issues or
usual logos in the system tray. So maybe disabling
the Wi-fi was the answer? I'll time it again and
let you know the speed next of both the 8500
and the 780 to connect.


Robert

Mark Twain wrote:
Agreed, but that was the only application
I was able to find.

As for the connection problem,, it has been
acting normally the few days with no issues or
usual logos in the system tray. So maybe disabling
the Wi-fi was the answer? I'll time it again and
let you know the speed next of both the 8500
and the 780 to connect.


Robert

My guess is, it was an Avast issue, and they fixed
it and pushed out a fix.

I don't think your OS would normally fling around
the 0x8E value. The Microsoft product DirectConnect
*may* use that, because a DirectConnect diagnostic
tool I tested, messed my settings up with that exact
value. And that can't be an accident. So my guess is,
some sort of VPN-like software was involved. Avast
has a "paid option" for such a thing, which is not
turned on. And maybe you have some other software
which makes a "Secure" connection to a specific
site, that applied such a value.

My purpose in turning off your Wifi is:

1) You're not using it.
2) Fewer variables if only the one network interface is enabled.

There is nothing particularly evil about multiple
interfaces. The OS is designed to deal with that.

With only the one network icon, there isn't much chance
of ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) getting turned on
by accident.

Paul

As I said, the only site I log into
aside from emails is the VA site which
uses third party software.

I timed the 8500 and 780 computers again;

780 booted startup connected =1 minute

8500 booted startup connected =7 minutes
and the yellow triangle with exclamation point
returned.

Robert

Mark Twain wrote:
As I said, the only site I log into
aside from emails is the VA site which
uses third party software.

I timed the 8500 and 780 computers again;

780 booted startup connected =1 minute

8500 booted startup connected =7 minutes
and the yellow triangle with exclamation point
returned.

Robert

Have you done a Google search, to see if the VA
software is known to cause problems ?

Paul

I did try and do search's concerning the VA but
they all end up referring you back to VA links.
I just tried again and the same thing. Every once
in awhile on the VA site the 3rd party pop-up
appears and asks me for a survey. So next time
I'll be sure to check the name.

However, today when I logged on the network
connection icon in the system tray has a red X
over it and Troubleshooting doesn't seem to know
what the problem is and can't resolve it.

I found this:

http://superuser.com/questions/66197...t-im-connected

Would just unplugging the Ethernet connection
correct this? Well, that's what I did while
still connected (since it seemed that's what
he did, but probably not the best thing to do)
and lost my connection of course. So restarted
the computer and it came back clean although
still slow.

Robert

Mark Twain wrote:
I did try and do search's concerning the VA but
they all end up referring you back to VA links.
I just tried again and the same thing. Every once
in awhile on the VA site the 3rd party pop-up
appears and asks me for a survey. So next time
I'll be sure to check the name.

However, today when I logged on the network
connection icon in the system tray has a red X
over it and Troubleshooting doesn't seem to know
what the problem is and can't resolve it.

I found this:

http://superuser.com/questions/66197...t-im-connected

Would just unplugging the Ethernet connection
correct this? Well, that's what I did while
still connected (since it seemed that's what
he did, but probably not the best thing to do)
and lost my connection of course. So restarted
the computer and it came back clean although
still slow.

Robert

The thing is, the 0x8E thing (a registry key that
doesn't normally exist), is only going to disappear
for certain kinds of solutions.

I think that key is associated with TCPIP6. And isn't
associated with a particular network interface. So
deleting the network interface, wouldn't necessarily
reset the 0x8E to 0x00 again. Or delete the key for
you.

Maybe reinstalling the protocol would clear the key,
but who knows what it would take to coax such a procedure,
to actually clean up the Registry. A major shortcoming
of the vast majority of installers, is they have no option
that says "clean out the Registry too, please".

Paul

So what do I do?

Even if I installed the spare HD
I would have to use the Mrimg
files to bring it up to date and
since I already did an Mrimg
and the problem still exists the
Mrimgs must also be 'infected' or
bad.

So until I get this resolved they
are useless, correct?

Robert

Mark Twain wrote:
So what do I do?

Even if I installed the spare HD
I would have to use the Mrimg
files to bring it up to date and
since I already did an Mrimg
and the problem still exists the
Mrimgs must also be 'infected' or
bad.

So until I get this resolved they
are useless, correct?

Robert

Yes.

As long as you restore the MRIMG
and the problem starts up right away
(before you've updated any software),
then the problem is contained in the
MRIMG too.

Paul

So what do I do ?

Today the triangle with black
exclamation mark reappeared. Wasn't
this an error 10 problem ?

Oh, btw I had the third party survey
pop-up on the VA site again. Here's
the company:

http://www.foreseecomputing.com/

Thoughts/suggestions?
Robert

Mark Twain wrote:
So what do I do ?

Today the triangle with black
exclamation mark reappeared. Wasn't
this an error 10 problem ?

Oh, btw I had the third party survey
pop-up on the VA site again. Here's
the company:

http://www.foreseecomputing.com/

Thoughts/suggestions?
Robert


I presume there are two ways to visit the VA site.

1) Visit directly with a web browser. HTTP and HTTPS
protocols can be used. HTTPS is secure, up to a point.
A third party should not be able to intercept the data.

With no VPN in place, the web site may include links
to offsite content. Like a Facebook link, a Google Analytics
reference and so on. The "foresee" is a firm hired to
do surveys, and may have been commissioned by the VA.
I have *never ever* filled out a ForeSee survey, no
matter what site it pops up on.

2) You also have some AnyConnect product, which sets up a
VPN tunnel between you and the VA. Which helps cover the
holes in HTTPS. You would not expect the associated web
pages on the VA end, to include references to third-party
sites.

Your symptoms so far suggests:

1) It's not malware. You've never mentioned finding
anything in a scan.

2) The symptoms are quite variable.

3) One symptom suggests a third-party is doing it,
such as some software installed on the computer,
and not the OS itself.

I would recommend reinstalling the OS, except I can
relate a story in my own case.

I have a problem with File Explorer in WinXP. I've been
seeing a problem for around a year. About a month ago,
I gave up tracing the problem. I decided to reinstall
the OS. The problem came back rather quickly, and before
I even had my complete suite of software reinstalled.

It's that kind of experience that doesn't leave me in
a rush to suggest OS re-install.

And the issue with some of these problems, is a long
time between "problem" and "detection". In some cases,
the software screws up hours before the symptoms show
up. Making it very hard to associate the usage of
a particular program, with the symptoms. For example,
my problem hasn't shown up for several days now, and
I also haven't been running VPC2007 lately. But previous
experience has shown, the two are not related. So the
correlation in this case, is a false one. And an example
of how lengthy and complicated it can be to catch
a piece of software that is messing around.

You can try uninstalling the NIC driver, but all that
does is handle things related to the NIC. I don't
see a reason for that to overwrite the "DisableComponent"
registry setting, which is associated only with TCPIP6
and not associated with any particular NIC or Wifi device.
Lots of people have tried reinstalling stuff in the past,
only to find no improvement in symptoms. And that's a reason
I'm not in a big rush to break your networking
worse than it is already broken! I try to temper my
suggestions, with positive outcomes. If I've seen
a procedure that "fixes something right away",
then I'll promote it. For the Hail Mary procedures,
what is the point of causing days of misery for
nothing ? So I have to pick my suggestions, based
on symptoms as best I can.

Paul