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Old April 9th 19, 06:57 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Win 10 with cable modem

I have an ARRIS cable modem. When I am in our BDRM, same floor, maybe
75 feet from that modem I only get intermittent connectivity. I am
using a Dell laptop

Can some one reccomend a solution, for improved connections? I am
aware of Extenders, but I have no idea how to select one.

Thx for any advice -joe
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Old April 9th 19, 08:19 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Win 10 with cable modem

In article ,
wrote:

I have an ARRIS cable modem. When I am in our BDRM, same floor, maybe
75 feet from that modem I only get intermittent connectivity. I am
using a Dell laptop

Can some one reccomend a solution, for improved connections? I am
aware of Extenders, but I have no idea how to select one.


don't get an extender. it will only make things worse.

what model arris modem, what version of wifi are you using (g,n,ac) and
what bands (2.4, 5ghz)?

the cheapest solution is move the arris to a more central location, but
that may not be feasible. at a minimum, move it away from anything
nearby, especially metal. even rotating it might help.

the ideal solution is a wifi mesh system, with a node where the cable
comes in, a node in the bedroom and additional nodes anywhere else it's
needed. the downside is that tends to be spendy.

another option is get a regular (non-mesh) wifi base station and place
it as centrally as possible. recent models have beamforming to focus
the signal to where it's needed, so it's not a big deal if that can't
be done. it's possible but not likely the arris does that.
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Old April 9th 19, 09:03 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Win 10 with cable modem

In article ,
says...

I have an ARRIS cable modem. When I am in our BDRM, same floor, maybe
75 feet from that modem I only get intermittent connectivity. I am
using a Dell laptop

Can some one reccomend a solution, for improved connections? I am
aware of Extenders, but I have no idea how to select one.

Thx for any advice -joe


Run a wire, problem solved and connection is faster and more reliable.

If that's not an option use something to extend your wireless reach or
reposition your router.

You can use one of these wrieless extenders they sell but why bother
when a TP-Link cheap router has the builtin ability to also do that
(it's actually a menu setup choice) and from what I've seen it's no more
expensive and you get a more versatile peice of hardware. I've not used
this specific router to do that (it;s right now main router) but I've
used an old router and dummied it down to act like a switch but left
wireless alive and it also works. Makes use of some old hardware
otherwise sits on a shelf. BTW - new router seems to provide more
constant connection thruout house so no need for dummied down router
anymore. Replaced it with a real 8 port switch instead as needed more
ports to connect devices to.
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Old April 9th 19, 11:28 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Win 10 with cable modem

joe wrote:

I have an ARRIS cable modem. When I am in our BDRM, same floor, maybe
75 feet from that modem I only get intermittent connectivity. I am
using a Dell laptop

Can some one reccomend a solution, for improved connections? I am
aware of Extenders, but I have no idea how to select one.


No mention of which band you use to connect wirelessly between your
computer and the modem. 5GHz will give you a faster connection but has
a shorter range and is attennuated more by obstacles (e.g., walls). The
2.4GHz band is slower but has longer range, like through walls. The
wifi cable modem probably supports both bands (no mention of model
number). Check which band you are using on the computer.

Regardless of which band you use, wifi can be flaky. Walking around the
house and within range and even shorter you'll find there are weaker
spots for signal strength. While I use wifi for a netbook and
smartphone, I still use wired connections for the desktops. Wired is
much more reliable and secure while also faster. I have a basement, so
it is easy to run cable under the floor through holes into each 1st
floor room or even between joists to other basement rooms. More upfront
work to string cable but more reliable and faster connections.

To determine which band you are using, there is a really simple way. Go
into the cable modem and name each band something that indicates which
one it is. For example, name the 2.4GHz band connection something like
yourID-2.4 and the 5GHz band something like yourID-5.0. On the
computer end, you can see the name of the connection, like a name of
joe-2.4 or joe-2.5.

The 2.4GHz radio space is crowded. Microwave ovens, cordless phones,
and many other wireless devices use that band hence they can interfere
with the 2.4GHz connection to the wifi modem. If your hardware supports
it, move to the 5GHz band which is faster but shorter range. If you are
already on the 5GHz band, the 2.4GHz band will have longer range and
better penetrate walls but other 2.4GHz wireless devices can interfere.

https://www.howtogeek.com/222249/wha...hould-you-use/
https://www.howtogeek.com/405105/5gh...-2.4ghz-wi-fi/

Should you have some oddball reason to not identify which band is for
2.4 or 5.0 GHz (i.e., you want the names to be obtuse), you can set a
preference in Windows 10 as to which band you want to connect; see:

https://anderson.zendesk.com/hc/en-u...dows-Computers

You could pay Comcast, er, Xfinity for their wifi repeaters but they are
pricey; see:

https://www.xfinity.com/learn/intern.../xfi-pod-3pack
$120 for 3 of them. At least, they're not leasing them which would cost
you more over the long run.

As pjp already mentioned, you could get your own wifi routers and use
them as repeaters. A good wifi router will cost about the same as the 3
xFi pods from Comcast.

75 feet away from the wifi cable modem within a home is too far,
especially if going through floors. Move the modem to the same floor as
where are the critical computers, or use repeaters, or change to the
2.4GHz band, or go wired.
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Old April 10th 19, 12:00 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , VanguardLH
wrote:

To determine which band you are using, there is a really simple way. Go
into the cable modem and name each band something that indicates which
one it is. For example, name the 2.4GHz band connection something like
yourID-2.4 and the 5GHz band something like yourID-5.0. On the
computer end, you can see the name of the connection, like a name of
joe-2.4 or joe-2.5.


that won't determine which band.

what that will do is create two separate networks on separate bands,
forcing client devices to choose which band. it's a bad idea.

both ssids should be the same so devices can seamlessly switch between
bands, 5ghz when close and 2.4 ghz when further away, without involving
the user to manually do anything.

The 2.4GHz radio space is crowded. Microwave ovens, cordless phones,
and many other wireless devices use that band hence they can interfere
with the 2.4GHz connection to the wifi modem.


it's crowded because of the many wifi networks, however, that's rarely
a problem in real world use because neighboring networks are not as
strong, and microwave ovens, phones, etc. don't cause significant
problems anymore.



You could pay Comcast, er, Xfinity for their wifi repeaters but they are
pricey; see:

https://www.xfinity.com/learn/intern.../xfi-pod-3pack
$120 for 3 of them. At least, they're not leasing them which would cost
you more over the long run.


they're not that good and only work with comcast's modems, not customer
supplied modems.




75 feet away from the wifi cable modem within a home is too far,
especially if going through floors.


no it isn't.

wifi range is 300 feet in open air and about half that in a typical
house.

Move the modem to the same floor as
where are the critical computers, or use repeaters, or change to the
2.4GHz band, or go wired.


he said it's on the same floor and repeaters are a very bad idea.
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Old April 10th 19, 01:05 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , KenW
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To determine which band you are using, there is a really simple way. Go
into the cable modem and name each band something that indicates which
one it is. For example, name the 2.4GHz band connection something like
yourID-2.4 and the 5GHz band something like yourID-5.0. On the
computer end, you can see the name of the connection, like a name of
joe-2.4 or joe-2.5.


that won't determine which band.

what that will do is create two separate networks on separate bands,
forcing client devices to choose which band. it's a bad idea.

both ssids should be the same so devices can seamlessly switch between
bands, 5ghz when close and 2.4 ghz when further away, without involving
the user to manually do anything.





Bull ****


not at all.

A different ssid for each band works just fine, You log on to the band
you want to use if a problem crops up.


it 'works', but it's far from ideal.

your setup requires manually switching bands as one moves closer to the
access point and then again when moving away (or it just drops out).

it's a lot easier and more convenient to use one ssid for both so that
devices can automatically switch between bands as needed.

some routers have can be configured exactly when to switch (although
tweaking that is rarely needed):
https://www.smallnetbuilder.com/imag...ynology_rt2600
ac/synology_rt2600ac_smart_connect_settings.jpg
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Old April 10th 19, 01:14 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Win 10 with cable modem

On 09/04/2019 21:03, pjp wrote:
Run a wire, problem solved and connection is faster and more reliable.

If that's not an option use something to extend your wireless reach or
reposition your router.

You can use one of these wrieless extenders they sell but why bother
when a TP-Link cheap router has the builtin ability to also do that
(it's actually a menu setup choice) and from what I've seen it's no more
expensive and you get a more versatile peice of hardware. I've not used
this specific router to do that (it;s right now main router) but I've
used an old router and dummied it down to act like a switch but left
wireless alive and it also works. Makes use of some old hardware
otherwise sits on a shelf. BTW - new router seems to provide more
constant connection thruout house so no need for dummied down router
anymore. Replaced it with a real 8 port switch instead as needed more
ports to connect devices to.



Did you actually read and understand what exactly is the problem with
the current setup in OP's household? Are you just spouting rubbish
because you have to?

you need to learn to read and understand what is being asked here. there
is no contest as to who is first to provide a solution. there are no
monetary gains in providing solutions either so there is no point in
posting anything that comes to your mind even if you are bored with
life. Go and get drunk to relax.



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Old April 10th 19, 02:31 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Win 10 with cable modem

In article , says...
https://anderson.zendesk.com/hc/en-u...dows-Computers

The 5GHz choice doesn't show up in Properties on my 10/Home system... ?
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Old April 10th 19, 02:36 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Win 10 with cable modem

In article
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The 5GHz choice doesn't show up in Properties on my 10/Home system... ?


what version of wifi does it have? if it's old, it might not have 5ghz.
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Old April 10th 19, 04:45 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
On 09/04/2019 18:57, wrote:
I have an ARRIS cable modem. When I am in our BDRM, same floor, maybe
75 feet from that modem I only get intermittent connectivity. I am
using a Dell laptop

Can some one reccomend a solution, for improved connections? I am
aware of Extenders, but I have no idea how to select one.

Thx for any advice -joe


Have you heard of PowerLine Plugs? Perhaps that could be the solution
for you. you need to buy in pairs so that you can insert a cable from
your modem to one powerline plug that is bear to the modem and second
one goes near to your computer or Laptop and then you also need couple
of cat5e, 6 or 7 cables for these. you might get one with the kit but
you also need another for your laptop/desktop. If you can't do this
then please hire a technician who can do it for you for $50 US plus the
cost of the plugs and cables.


A review I was reading, with regard to this question,
said a 500Mbit/sec HomePlug AV2 system achieved only
100Mbit/sec. It has some of the same issues as Wifi, in
the sense that it doesn't always live up to its billing.

And I've heard stories that "noisy devices", like
the Hoovers we have here, can inject enough motor noise
on mains, to further degrade the thruput. If someone
starts vacuuming the carpet, your download might slow
down.

It's a nice idea. It works better than it used to.
But it's still not "GbE quality" as a solution. You
no longer have to "stick a cap between phases" on
North American systems to make it work. And Ham operators
hate it.

*******

The problem with Wifi toys to fix this, is the state
of the documentation.

This site might be technical enough, to fill in some details.

"Wired access points"

https://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wire...-point-roundup

"Wifi mesh"

https://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wire...imesh-reviewed

There are hours of fun to be had, mining that site
for the latest Wifi fad. And when some of those
boxes with all the "sticks" on top cost $200 a unit,
who doesn't want to buy three of them .

Paul
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Old April 10th 19, 06:34 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Win 10 with cable modem

wrote:
I have an ARRIS cable modem. When I am in our BDRM, same floor, maybe
75 feet from that modem I only get intermittent connectivity. I am
using a Dell laptop

Can some one reccomend a solution, for improved connections? I am
aware of Extenders, but I have no idea how to select one.

Thx for any advice -joe


A free solution:
https://m.wikihow.com/Make-a-Wi-Fi-Booster-Using-Only-a-Can


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Old April 10th 19, 09:40 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Win 10 with cable modem

Zaidy036 wrote:
wrote:
I have an ARRIS cable modem. When I am in our BDRM, same floor, maybe
75 feet from that modem I only get intermittent connectivity. I am
using a Dell laptop

Can some one reccomend a solution, for improved connections? I am
aware of Extenders, but I have no idea how to select one.

Thx for any advice -joe


A free solution:
https://m.wikihow.com/Make-a-Wi-Fi-Booster-Using-Only-a-Can


"We'll need a bigger can"

https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/iel7/787...6/07909976.pdf

"This paper presents
some experiments at distances of up to 382 km that were
performed in Venezuela from April 2006 to July 2007, as
well as an affordable instrument setup for long-distance
antenna alignment."
...
"Thus, the preliminary conclusion was that the 280 km link
was stable, and the 380 km link was probably at the edge
of the 2.4 GHz link capabilities with low-cost equipment
and 30 dBi antennas."

They used some parabolic dishes.

While those setups are good for setting records,
they're not all that practical.

And I've seen 30dBi parabolic dishes advertised on
Ebay, so you don't even have to make those and
you can buy them (if there was a good reason to
do it that way).

Paul
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Old April 10th 19, 12:08 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 04:40:49 -0400, Paul
wrote:

Zaidy036 wrote:
wrote:
I have an ARRIS cable modem. When I am in our BDRM, same floor, maybe
75 feet from that modem I only get intermittent connectivity. I am
using a Dell laptop

Can some one reccomend a solution, for improved connections? I am
aware of Extenders, but I have no idea how to select one.

Thx for any advice -joe


A free solution:
https://m.wikihow.com/Make-a-Wi-Fi-Booster-Using-Only-a-Can


"We'll need a bigger can"

https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/iel7/787...6/07909976.pdf

"This paper presents
some experiments at distances of up to 382 km that were
performed in Venezuela from April 2006 to July 2007, as
well as an affordable instrument setup for long-distance
antenna alignment."
...
"Thus, the preliminary conclusion was that the 280 km link
was stable, and the 380 km link was probably at the edge
of the 2.4 GHz link capabilities with low-cost equipment
and 30 dBi antennas."

They used some parabolic dishes.

While those setups are good for setting records,
they're not all that practical.

And I've seen 30dBi parabolic dishes advertised on
Ebay, so you don't even have to make those and
you can buy them (if there was a good reason to
do it that way).

Now how do I deal with my 5 channel hopping neighbours? :-)

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