Change Win7 look

On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:37:16 +0000, Jeff Layman wrote:

I happen to use something similar to the XP-style Start Menu mentioned
by several others here - Classic Windows Start Menu
(http://coreaffinity.megabyet.net/cla...startmenu.htm). I found
both the design and functionality of the Win7 Start Menu unacceptable (a
lot of wasted space, and no auto-expansion of the program menu), so
installed something I found worked for me. I like the design and the
function of CWSM, so why should I accept anything less?

While I don't mind the new Start menu in Windows 7, I do prefer the
classic start menu. It never even occurred to me to look for software
that would allow the use of the classic start menu. Thanks.

On 23/01/2011 02:54, Alexander Arnakis wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 15:40:31 +0100, Alias
wrote:

I disagree. Win 7 is much more user friendly than XP or 98.

If you have 10 years of experience with a given system (Win98 in this
case), "user friendly" is what is familiar to you. For example, I want
my Start Menu items to stay put, not be rearranged automatically
according to some algorythm of "recent use." Nor do I want the
distractions of "aero effects," transparent icon labels,
high-resolution wallpapers, etc. There are lots of advantages to using
the Classic Start Menu and old-style Windows Explorer.

No matter how many positions we adopt or adapt from Kama Sutra, we
always go back to the old Missionary Position, don't we?

Yessss, there is something comforting about doing things the old way.

I too am ****ed off by the new useless re-arrangement of everything in
W7. Why don't they leave well alone?
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choro
*****

On 01/23/2011 04:15 PM, choro wrote:
On 23/01/2011 02:54, Alexander Arnakis wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 15:40:31 +0100, Alias
wrote:

I disagree. Win 7 is much more user friendly than XP or 98.

If you have 10 years of experience with a given system (Win98 in this
case), "user friendly" is what is familiar to you. For example, I want
my Start Menu items to stay put, not be rearranged automatically
according to some algorythm of "recent use." Nor do I want the
distractions of "aero effects," transparent icon labels,
high-resolution wallpapers, etc. There are lots of advantages to using
the Classic Start Menu and old-style Windows Explorer.

No matter how many positions we adopt or adapt from Kama Sutra, we
always go back to the old Missionary Position, don't we?

Yessss, there is something comforting about doing things the old way.

I too am ****ed off by the new useless re-arrangement of everything in
W7. Why don't they leave well alone?
--
choro
*****

Then you would be bitching that Windows 7 is the same as 98.

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Alias

On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 02:38:07 -0500, Flint
wrote:

Or, take it one step farther, and install ObjectDock, and place icons
for your most commonly used programs on it instead.

This is what I do, and then I only use the Windows Start menu for my
system maintenance tools (Things like Mike Lin's Startup.exe, EaseUS
ToDo Backup, Auslogics Defragger, etc.) I hardly ever need to even go
into the "All Programs" menu folders.

This way, I can also turn off the desktop icon clutter, keep all my
apps full screen, and call up my programs by having the icons come to
*me* by popping front simply by moving my mouse pointer to the top
edge of my screen, and when I'm done selecting my program, the
Objectdock icon dock simply goes away. With all that desktop icon
clutter nonsense gone, I can now finally see that beutifal desktop
wallpaper in it's entirety.

Entirety? Since you keep all of your apps full screen, how do you see
any of your desktop? :-)

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Char Jackson

On 22/01/2011 00:20, Thip wrote:


+1. I *detest* that stupid Win7 Start menu!

Why? What's wrong with it?

On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 19:20:33 -0500, Thip wrote:

+1. I *detest* that stupid Win7 Start menu!

Yeah I'm not a huge fan of it, or Windows Explorer in 7. Luckily
ClassicShell fixes both.

Less bloat in the start menu. I like it compact and quick to use.
Expandable Program Folder rather than browsing the program folders
folders in the same pain. And I don't need links to Document folders,
Pictures etc etc. A quick Win+E and I have access to everything in
Explorer. Talking of explorer...

ClassicShell among it's many features, adds a tree view, which I really
missed and proper directory paths in the location bar.

I also disabled Areo completely and replaced the theme with a custom one
as soon as I got 7. I don't want or need all the visual effects.
(Although Areo is a huge improvement over what XP looked like out of the
box. Who the hell through bright blue was a good idea...)

I don't think Windows 7 is a bad OS. It just adds a lot of features that
are worthless to me. Personally I just want a quick and responsive OS.

On 23/01/2011 02:54, Alexander Arnakis wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 15:40:31 +0100, Alias
wrote:

I disagree. Win 7 is much more user friendly than XP or 98.

If you have 10 years of experience with a given system (Win98 in this
case), "user friendly" is what is familiar to you. For example, I want
my Start Menu items to stay put, not be rearranged automatically
according to some algorythm of "recent use." Nor do I want the
distractions of "aero effects," transparent icon labels,
high-resolution wallpapers, etc. There are lots of advantages to using
the Classic Start Menu and old-style Windows Explorer.


Then PIN items to the Start menu.

On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:03:00 -0600, Char Jackson wrote:

On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 02:38:07 -0500, Flint
wrote:

Or, take it one step farther, and install ObjectDock, and place icons
for your most commonly used programs on it instead.

This is what I do, and then I only use the Windows Start menu for my
system maintenance tools (Things like Mike Lin's Startup.exe, EaseUS
ToDo Backup, Auslogics Defragger, etc.) I hardly ever need to even go
into the "All Programs" menu folders.

This way, I can also turn off the desktop icon clutter, keep all my
apps full screen, and call up my programs by having the icons come to
*me* by popping front simply by moving my mouse pointer to the top
edge of my screen, and when I'm done selecting my program, the
Objectdock icon dock simply goes away. With all that desktop icon
clutter nonsense gone, I can now finally see that beutifal desktop
wallpaper in it's entirety.

Entirety? Since you keep all of your apps full screen, how do you see
any of your desktop? :-)

Transparency - works wonders :-)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On 01/24/2011 11:09 PM, FooAtari wrote:
I don't think Windows 7 is a bad OS. It just adds a lot of features that
are worthless to me. Personally I just want a quick and responsive OS.

Then you want http://www.linuxmint.com/, not any flavor of Windows.

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Alias

Hey Henry,
Since you paid for it make it look any way you like.
Some of these guys need to get a life................not all people have
time to spend fiddling around with Microsoft's obsolesce features. What they
have produce works no better than what they just obsoleted. Some people
forget the mission is to get work completed not to learn new Microsoft
systems.
Seems like you fell in with a bunch of bored people who don't have lives and
who think a computer is all there is in the world.
Like I said make it look any way you want and make it convenient for
yourself.
Let the rest sleep with their computers!!


"Henry" wrote in message
...
Are there some steps to make Win7 "look" like Win98. I could do it with
WinXP so I hope there is a way to do it in Win7. My opinion is that Win7 is
not user friendly.

Thanks

Henry

On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:55:33 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:03:00 -0600, Char Jackson wrote:

On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 02:38:07 -0500, Flint
wrote:

Or, take it one step farther, and install ObjectDock, and place icons
for your most commonly used programs on it instead.

This is what I do, and then I only use the Windows Start menu for my
system maintenance tools (Things like Mike Lin's Startup.exe, EaseUS
ToDo Backup, Auslogics Defragger, etc.) I hardly ever need to even go
into the "All Programs" menu folders.

This way, I can also turn off the desktop icon clutter, keep all my
apps full screen, and call up my programs by having the icons come to
*me* by popping front simply by moving my mouse pointer to the top
edge of my screen, and when I'm done selecting my program, the
Objectdock icon dock simply goes away. With all that desktop icon
clutter nonsense gone, I can now finally see that beutifal desktop
wallpaper in it's entirety.

Entirety? Since you keep all of your apps full screen, how do you see
any of your desktop? :-)

Transparency - works wonders :-)

Thanks, Gene, you've lifted a veil from my eyes.

--

Char Jackson

"Henry" wrote in message ...

Are there some steps to make Win7 "look" like Win98. I could do it with
WinXP so I hope there is a way to do it in Win7. My opinion is that Win7 is
not user friendly.

Thanks

Henry



Get a Mac.
W00t!

On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:13:07 +0100, Alias wrote:

On 01/24/2011 11:09 PM, FooAtari wrote:
I don't think Windows 7 is a bad OS. It just adds a lot of features
that are worthless to me. Personally I just want a quick and responsive
OS.

Then you want http://www.linuxmint.com/, not any flavor of Windows.

Heh, I use Linux Mint on my main PC. Windows 7 is on my gaming PC

On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:57:29 +0000, Lewis wrote:

Seriously, explorer in W7 is easily the worst thing about W7.

Yeah, It's hard to believe after all these years they haven't been able
to come up with something better...

On 24/01/2011 22:57, Lewis wrote:

Explorer in Windows 7 is just dreadful though. I mean, first of all, if
I want to see the directories on the left (which I don't usually want,
but sometimes) I have to go click on that stupid drop down. Then, I have
all this white space over there and these completely useless Libraries
that I am never EVER going to use. But tough, because they are there to
stay. Ugh.

Seriously, explorer in W7 is easily the worst thing about W7.


Have a try with Freecommander. It has a nice old-fashioned, split-screen
layout that is very efficient.

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Be nice to your children - they pick the nursing home.