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Old December 12th 15, 09:29 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default How can I STOP a Windows 10 update please?

In the summer I updated windows 7 to windows 10 and now
my windows 10 is updating when I need the machine most
because I'm studying for finals.

It has been updating for TWO HOURS!

I don't have time for this.

How can I gracefully stop it, and how can I prevent it from
updating whenever it feels like it?
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Old December 12th 15, 09:40 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default How can I STOP a Windows 10 update please?

M. Stradbury wrote:

In the summer I updated windows 7 to windows 10 and now
my windows 10 is updating when I need the machine most
because I'm studying for finals.

It has been updating for TWO HOURS!

I don't have time for this.

How can I gracefully stop it, and how can I prevent it from
updating whenever it feels like it?


settings - update & security - advanced options. select defer upgrades.

hope this helps let us know hoe you get on.

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Old December 12th 15, 09:46 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default How can I STOP a Windows 10 update please?

M. Stradbury wrote:

In the summer I updated windows 7 to windows 10 and now
my windows 10 is updating when I need the machine most
because I'm studying for finals.

It has been updating for TWO HOURS!

I don't have time for this.

How can I gracefully stop it, and how can I prevent it from
updating whenever it feels like it?


second wrong group try

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Old December 12th 15, 09:57 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default How can I STOP a Windows 10 update please?

M. Stradbury wrote:

In the summer I updated windows 7 to windows 10 and now
my windows 10 is updating when I need the machine most
because I'm studying for finals.

It has been updating for TWO HOURS!

I don't have time for this.

How can I gracefully stop it, and how can I prevent it from
updating whenever it feels like it?


Visit the following link for methods to enable and disable updates;

http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/8...dows-10-a.html

HTH

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Old December 12th 15, 10:17 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default How can I STOP a Windows 10 update please?

Per M. Stradbury:
How can I gracefully stop it, and how can I prevent it from
updating whenever it feels like it?


Dunno from stopping... Personally, I'd pull the plug and restore from
the system image I keep on hand for bad days like that....

For prevention I disabled two Services:

- Windows Update
and
- Background Intelligent Transfer Service

I don't know much about Windows... but reading other threads led me to
hope that disabling those two services would end my anxieties about
accidentally fat-fingering the "OK" button for the "Upgrade" to Windows
10.
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Old December 13th 15, 12:07 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default How can I STOP a Windows 10 update please?

On 12.12.15 22:29, M. Stradbury wrote:
In the summer I updated windows 7 to windows 10 and now
my windows 10 is updating when I need the machine most
because I'm studying for finals.

It has been updating for TWO HOURS!

I don't have time for this.

How can I gracefully stop it, and how can I prevent it from
updating whenever it feels like it?

(Re)install your old Windows.
  #7  
Old December 13th 15, 01:24 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default How can I STOP a Windows 10 update please?

On Sat, 12 Dec 2015 21:57:56 +0000, Sir_George wrote:

M. Stradbury wrote:

In the summer I updated windows 7 to windows 10 and now
my windows 10 is updating when I need the machine most
because I'm studying for finals.

It has been updating for TWO HOURS!

I don't have time for this.

How can I gracefully stop it, and how can I prevent it from
updating whenever it feels like it?


Visit the following link for methods to enable and disable updates;

http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/8...ate-automatic-

updates-enable-disable-windows-10-a.html

HTH


Windows 10 will automatically check for new Windows Updates at the time
you have set in automatic maintenance.

Windows 10 will automatically download and install important and critical
updates by default

Some updates are not installed automatically. This includes optional
updates and updates that require you to accept new terms of use. When
these updates are available, Windows Update will let you know that
they're ready to be installed.

This tutorial will show you how to enable or disable automatic updates in
Windows Update for all users in Windows 10.

You must be signed in as an administrator to be able to enable or disable
automatic updates.

Option One: To Enable or Disable Automatic Updates using Group Policy
This option is not available and will not work in Windows 10 Home.
Microsoft has prevented disabling automatic updates in the Home edition.
This option will only work in the Windows 10 Pro and Enterprise editions.

Option Two: To Enable or Disable Automatic Updates using a REG file
This option will not work in Windows 10 Home. Microsoft has prevented
disabling automatic updates in the Home edition.
This option will only work in the Windows 10 Pro and Enterprise editions.

Option Three: To Turn On or Off Automatic Device Driver Installation
This option only applies to device drivers and not to Windows itself.

Option Four: To Enable or Disable Automatic Updates using Metered Network
Connection
Windows will not automatically download available updates on a metered
network connection.

Option Five: To Enable or Disable Automatic Updates by Enabling or
Disabling Windows Update service
If you disable the Windows Update service, Windows will no longer be able
to automatically download and install updates.
When you are ready to download and install updates, you would just need
to enable and start the Windows Update service again, then check for
updates.

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Old December 13th 15, 01:36 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default How can I STOP a Windows 10 update please?

M. Stradbury wrote:
In the summer I updated windows 7 to windows 10 and now
my windows 10 is updating when I need the machine most
because I'm studying for finals.

It has been updating for TWO HOURS!

I don't have time for this.

How can I gracefully stop it, and how can I prevent it from
updating whenever it feels like it?


When the computer boots, you may see a black Command Prompt
window flash on the screen.

Sometimes, that gets stuck for a few moments, and if you're
lucky, you'll see a copy of something related to Update Orchestrator
starting. Update Orchestrator has taken over some of the duties of
the Windows Update process, and as a result, some of the
previous recipes for Windows 10 (preview or release)
may no longer work the same. So while you may find articles,
with a certain registry key with values from 0..4 or so,
that may no longer work.

http://www.windows10forums.com/threa...indows-10.524/

http://www.blackviper.com/service-co...onfigurations/

Update Orchestrator Service UsoSvc Manual Manual Manual

Eventually, you'll find an intrepid individual who
turned that service off.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/c...ref=readnext_9

Q "I have been on windows 10 for a few days now.
I just went to run Windows Update...

* On my Non-Admin local user account.
Clicking windows update crashes Windows Settings.

* On my Admin local user account.
Clicking windows update works, but I just it never completes.
Just looks like its working forever.

Now I did disable some services using Black Vipers safe
Windows 10 guide. I thought that had to be it, but I just went
back through the services, I didn't disable anything that would
cause this (I think). Is Windows 10 Update down for anyone else?

A Update Orchestrator Service (UsoSvc) needs to not be disabled.

So that will potentially take care of it.

Now, a question would be, whether disabling that on a running system,
will stop all the scheduled tasks (such as a reboot task). The logic
might not be there currently, to make "intelligent control" possible.
You could try looking in Task Scheduler control panel, and zapping
anything related to usosvc.

https://social.technet.microsoft.com...ogged-on-users

In Control Panels : Administrative : Task Scheduler, you
can see the stuff that usosvc has scheduled. (Excuse the
spelling mistake...)

http://s30.postimg.org/5j7eaozv5/upd...uled_tasks.gif

So the sequence goes:

1) System boots.
2) Something is already scheduled, and causes a black command prompt
windows to run, which you see flash on the screen. This might be
something to "repair" changes. It may be a startup item (like
a malware might use).
3) Usosvc is in control of orchestrating things.
4) If kicks off a Windows Update scan (wuauserv, BITS, etc)
5) It has the ability to define tasks in the Task Scheduler
control panel. Including scheduling a reboot when you
don't want it to happen.

If the machine is in the middle of something, I would think
it would be pretty difficult to kill it entirely. Disabling
Windows Update service and BITS service and rebooting, might
work if it is still downloading. If it is in the process of
upgrading to 10586, it probably isn't using USOSVC at the
moment, as 10586 is likely when it was added. And if you're
in the middle of an upgrade install, I can'r really predict
what additional monkey business goes on behind the scenes.
Once the files are downloaded, it might be really difficult
to stop it then (might need 45 minutes to Upgrade install).

This is the kind of stuff you do to stop Windows Update,
back when it was in control. But with usosvc running,
it's even possible it might be able to "repair" these.
You never know, with stacked designs, what could happen.

net stop bits --- Background Intelligent Transfer
net stop wuauserv --- Windows Update scanner
net stop appidsvc
net stop cryptsvc

Stopping the top two, is likely enough. Stopping
all four, is for doing maintenance on the associated
folders (part of resetting WU to correct deficiencies).

While I cannot provide a precise recipe, I think you
can see some of the levers.

Cleaning out all the Task Scheduler entries put there
by usosvc - those can be put back by usosvc later.

Note that "services" can have recovery procedures. They
can try to start themselves again, up to three times.
If you stop the usosvc, it may be set to start itself
again. (The Indexing Service works that way.) You would
look in Control Panels : Administration : Services
to see what policies are set for it. So you stop it
first, and make sure it stays stopped.

net stop usosvc

Then clean out the Task Scheduler entries, so they won't
trigger while you're working.

If you reboot, usosvc is going to start again. Even
though you stopped it previously, you may have
disabled it in Services, the black Command Prompt
window (from some startup item) may be in charge
of putting it *all* back. So like a malware,
you have your work cut out for you. And without
a proper GPO or GPEdit template, it might be
difficult to do it in a more intelligent manner
than is possible today. I can't find any threads
discussing how to stick a fork in it with GPEdit.

I particularly dislike working on a system issue
which is a moving target, like a kind of guerrilla warfare.
This is why my "real" system uses Windows 7.

From a behavioral analysis point of view, if the
computer is left running for a non-critical
interval (like four hours before you need it),
it may "quiet down". But of course, depending
on the release schedule at Microsoft, and the
fact that Windows Update may check more than
once a day, you might still run into another
maintenance interval later on. So when I do
use Win10 Insider edition boot drive, if the
work is critical (benchmarking), I may have
to wait for later. On Windows 7, I might wait
five minutes, and all would be quiet (barring
a long Indexing Service run, which killing
three times might solve...).

Just a guess,
Paul
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Old December 13th 15, 02:34 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default How can I STOP a Windows 10 update please?

On 13/12/2015 02:24, M. Stradbury wrote:
....
Windows 10 will automatically check for new Windows Updates at the time
you have set in automatic maintenance.

....snip...

That's what I used to think, too.

But, in Windows 10 Task Scheduler (taskschd.msc) I noticed there are
other tasks such as


Update Orchestrator - Schedule Scan task
"This task performs a scheduled Windows Update scan."

WindowsUpdate - Scheduled Start task
"This task is used to start the Windows Update service when needed to
perform scheduled operations such as scans."

WindowsUpdate - Automatic App Update
"Automatically updates the user's Windows store applications."




which are triggered at hours different than the time set in Control
panel - Maintenance - "Run maintenance tasks daily at".

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Old December 13th 15, 07:46 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default How can I STOP a Windows 10 update please?

M. Stradbury wrote on 12/12/2015 8:24 PM:
On Sat, 12 Dec 2015 21:57:56 +0000, Sir_George wrote:

M. Stradbury wrote:

In the summer I updated windows 7 to windows 10 and now
my windows 10 is updating when I need the machine most
because I'm studying for finals.

It has been updating for TWO HOURS!

I don't have time for this.

How can I gracefully stop it, and how can I prevent it from
updating whenever it feels like it?


Visit the following link for methods to enable and disable updates;

http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/8...ate-automatic-

updates-enable-disable-windows-10-a.html

HTH


Windows 10 will automatically check for new Windows Updates at the time
you have set in automatic maintenance.

Windows 10 will automatically download and install important and critical
updates by default

Some updates are not installed automatically. This includes optional
updates and updates that require you to accept new terms of use. When
these updates are available, Windows Update will let you know that
they're ready to be installed.

This tutorial will show you how to enable or disable automatic updates in
Windows Update for all users in Windows 10.

You must be signed in as an administrator to be able to enable or disable
automatic updates.

Option One: To Enable or Disable Automatic Updates using Group Policy
This option is not available and will not work in Windows 10 Home.
Microsoft has prevented disabling automatic updates in the Home edition.
This option will only work in the Windows 10 Pro and Enterprise editions.

Option Two: To Enable or Disable Automatic Updates using a REG file
This option will not work in Windows 10 Home. Microsoft has prevented
disabling automatic updates in the Home edition.
This option will only work in the Windows 10 Pro and Enterprise editions.

Option Three: To Turn On or Off Automatic Device Driver Installation
This option only applies to device drivers and not to Windows itself.

Option Four: To Enable or Disable Automatic Updates using Metered Network
Connection
Windows will not automatically download available updates on a metered
network connection.

Option Five: To Enable or Disable Automatic Updates by Enabling or
Disabling Windows Update service
If you disable the Windows Update service, Windows will no longer be able
to automatically download and install updates.
When you are ready to download and install updates, you would just need
to enable and start the Windows Update service again, then check for
updates.

Good list.
- Also Windows Update won't download and install updates for devices
with batteries (e.g. laptop, tablets) when Battery Saver is turned on.
- Battery Saver comes on at a pre-set % of remaining battery
power...but Battery Saver can be configured to turn on at 100%.
- not perfect, because eventually the battery will run down and require
power which will override Battery Save(i.e. battery no longer in
use)...but for those with laptops/tablets sufficient delay could be
obtained to accomplish tasks before shutdown to recharge, remove power
connection and restart on battery again - repeat same and delay updates
until desired or at least until the need to count sheep arises.


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Old December 13th 15, 08:19 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default How can I STOP a Windows 10 update please?

On 12/12/2015 11:46 PM, . . .winston wrote:
M. Stradbury wrote on 12/12/2015 8:24 PM:
On Sat, 12 Dec 2015 21:57:56 +0000, Sir_George wrote:

M. Stradbury wrote:

In the summer I updated windows 7 to windows 10 and now
my windows 10 is updating when I need the machine most
because I'm studying for finals.

It has been updating for TWO HOURS!

I don't have time for this.

How can I gracefully stop it, and how can I prevent it from
updating whenever it feels like it?

Visit the following link for methods to enable and disable updates;

http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/8...ate-automatic-

updates-enable-disable-windows-10-a.html

HTH


Windows 10 will automatically check for new Windows Updates at the time
you have set in automatic maintenance.

Windows 10 will automatically download and install important and critical
updates by default

Some updates are not installed automatically. This includes optional
updates and updates that require you to accept new terms of use. When
these updates are available, Windows Update will let you know that
they're ready to be installed.

This tutorial will show you how to enable or disable automatic updates in
Windows Update for all users in Windows 10.

You must be signed in as an administrator to be able to enable or disable
automatic updates.

Option One: To Enable or Disable Automatic Updates using Group Policy
This option is not available and will not work in Windows 10 Home.
Microsoft has prevented disabling automatic updates in the Home edition.
This option will only work in the Windows 10 Pro and Enterprise editions.

Option Two: To Enable or Disable Automatic Updates using a REG file
This option will not work in Windows 10 Home. Microsoft has prevented
disabling automatic updates in the Home edition.
This option will only work in the Windows 10 Pro and Enterprise editions.

Option Three: To Turn On or Off Automatic Device Driver Installation
This option only applies to device drivers and not to Windows itself.

Option Four: To Enable or Disable Automatic Updates using Metered Network
Connection
Windows will not automatically download available updates on a metered
network connection.

Option Five: To Enable or Disable Automatic Updates by Enabling or
Disabling Windows Update service
If you disable the Windows Update service, Windows will no longer be able
to automatically download and install updates.
When you are ready to download and install updates, you would just need
to enable and start the Windows Update service again, then check for
updates.

Good list.
- Also Windows Update won't download and install updates for devices
with batteries (e.g. laptop, tablets) when Battery Saver is turned on.
- Battery Saver comes on at a pre-set % of remaining battery
power...but Battery Saver can be configured to turn on at 100%.
- not perfect, because eventually the battery will run down and require
power which will override Battery Save(i.e. battery no longer in
use)...but for those with laptops/tablets sufficient delay could be
obtained to accomplish tasks before shutdown to recharge, remove power
connection and restart on battery again - repeat same and delay updates
until desired or at least until the need to count sheep arises.



Great list. Wrote it down. Thank you!

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Old December 13th 15, 09:40 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 12/13/2015 9:36 AM, Paul wrote:
Sometimes, that gets stuck for a few moments, and if you're
lucky, you'll see a copy of something related to Update Orchestrator
starting. Update Orchestrator has taken over some of the duties of
the Windows Update process, and as a result, some of the
previous recipes for Windows 10 (preview or release)
may no longer work the same. So while you may find articles,
with a certain registry key with values from 0..4 or so,
that may no longer work.


Borrowing your article, Your Poi!

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Old December 13th 15, 10:46 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default How can I STOP a Windows 10 update please?

On 12/12/2015 11:46 PM, . . .winston wrote:
..

Good list.
- Also Windows Update won't download and install updates for devices
with batteries (e.g. laptop, tablets) when Battery Saver is turned on.
- Battery Saver comes on at a pre-set % of remaining battery
power...but Battery Saver can be configured to turn on at 100%.
- not perfect, because eventually the battery will run down and require
power which will override Battery Save(i.e. battery no longer in
use)...but for those with laptops/tablets sufficient delay could be
obtained to accomplish tasks before shutdown to recharge, remove power
connection and restart on battery again - repeat same and delay updates
until desired or at least until the need to count sheep arises.


That's UNACCEPTABLE!!!
Unfortunately, it will probably take a protracted lawsuit to get anything
to change...like when someone dies because some critical computer
couldn't be used to save a life.

"Quit screaming mam. We'll dispatch the paramedic as soon as
windows finishes updating. Thank you for your patience while
Microsoft makes our computer system serve you better."

At last count, I have 18 machines with windows 10 digital
entitlement. I put win7 back on all of them.

When I want to raise my blood pressure, I plug in a win10
disk and have a go at windows 10. In virtually EVERY instance,
the damn thing pegs the hard disk at 100% with a disk queue time
that ranges from 3 to 14 SECONDS! Absolutely nothing else can
happen until it quits playing with itself and downloads whatever
it wants. Sure, I can delay the actual reboot, but by that time
I've forgotten what I started out to do...oh, I wanted to raise
my blood pressure...mission accomplished.

People with only one computer don't have a lot of options.

I find windows 10 very usable if it would just get out of the
damn way and let me use it.


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Old December 13th 15, 11:13 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default How can I STOP a Windows 10 update please?

On Sat, 12 Dec 2015 21:29:30 -0000 (UTC), "M. Stradbury"
wrote in

In the summer I updated windows 7 to windows 10 and now
my windows 10 is updating when I need the machine most
because I'm studying for finals.

It has been updating for TWO HOURS!

I don't have time for this.

How can I gracefully stop it, and how can I prevent it from
updating whenever it feels like it?


This might help

http://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

More control over your W10 operating system

Adapt your security settings
Protect your privacy
Control location services
Control Windows Updates
Do not pass on your user data and diagnostics

Further information

Portable Version no installation required

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10
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Old December 13th 15, 09:59 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default How can I STOP a Windows 10 update please?

mike wrote on 12/13/2015 5:46 AM:
On 12/12/2015 11:46 PM, . . .winston wrote:
.

Good list.
- Also Windows Update won't download and install updates for devices
with batteries (e.g. laptop, tablets) when Battery Saver is turned on.
- Battery Saver comes on at a pre-set % of remaining battery
power...but Battery Saver can be configured to turn on at 100%.
- not perfect, because eventually the battery will run down and require
power which will override Battery Save(i.e. battery no longer in
use)...but for those with laptops/tablets sufficient delay could be
obtained to accomplish tasks before shutdown to recharge, remove power
connection and restart on battery again - repeat same and delay updates
until desired or at least until the need to count sheep arises.


That's UNACCEPTABLE!!!
Unfortunately, it will probably take a protracted lawsuit to get anything
to change...like when someone dies because some critical computer
couldn't be used to save a life.



I find windows 10 very usable if it would just get out of the
damn way and let me use it.


Good for you.

Keep having those pipe dreams about lawsuits.


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