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Old IE's are now officially dead from next week
XP users, your choice is now almost over as far as using Microsoft Internet Explorer is concerned. It is dead from next week so move on to Windows 10 or get Mozilla Firefox https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/WindowsForBusiness/End-of-IE-support Good riddance!!!!!!!!!!!! -- /*This post contains rich text (HTML). if you don't like it then you can kill-filter the poster without crying about it like a small baby so that you don't see this poster's posts ever again.*/ /*This message is best read in Mozilla Thunderbird as it uses 21st century technology.*/ |
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Old IE's are now officially dead from next week
"Good Guy" wrote in message
... XP users, your choice is now almost over as far as using Microsoft Internet Explorer is concerned. It is dead from next week so move on to Windows 10 or get Mozilla Firefox or perhaps better yet, Pale Moon, Atom/XP Builds, w/o the Australis UI. |
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Old IE's are now officially dead from next week
On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 17:58:02 +0000, Good Guy wrote:
XP users, your choice is now almost over as far as using Microsoft Internet Explorer is concerned. It is dead from next week so move on to Windows 10 or get Mozilla Firefox https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/WindowsForBusiness/End-of-IE-support Good riddance!!!!!!!!!!!! What are you talking about? They end the support for MSIE 10 and older versions, not the whole MSIE. After all, Windows 10 still use MSIE. Version 11, that is. Why are you posting this in a Windows XP newsgroup, anyway? I think pretty much everyone in this group already knows that Windows XP as well as all versions of MSIE for Windows XP have no support any more. And I think those that still uses XP, whether they still use MSIE or not, have their reason(s) to do so. It's true that MSIE as well as any other browsers that are based on MSIE's engine, when run under Windows XP, will have problems connecting to some secured websites due to server certificate use of SHA-256 hash algorithm (Google via HTTPS, for example). This is because MSIE engine uses Windows built-in cryptography library which doesn't support SHA-256. Since there's no more update for Windows XP, the Windows built-in cryptography library is simply one less capable for today's security standard. It doesn't mean that it's incapable for all other security tasks that it already can do. Windows XP users can still access such secured websites by using other browser that doesn't use MSIE engine whose engine doesn't use Windows builtin cryptography library. Browsers like Firefox or Chrome/ium, or any others that are based on those two. So, please don't misinform the users here. |
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Old IE's are now officially dead from next week
JJ wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 17:58:02 +0000, Good Guy wrote: XP users, your choice is now almost over as far as using Microsoft Internet Explorer is concerned. It is dead from next week so move on to Windows 10 or get Mozilla Firefox https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/WindowsForBusiness/End-of-IE-support Good riddance!!!!!!!!!!!! What are you talking about? They end the support for MSIE 10 and older versions, not the whole MSIE. After all, Windows 10 still use MSIE. Version 11, that is. And IE is ultimately being superceded by Microsoft Edge. (Probably to add more social widgets and eye candy - oh, and Cortana). Why are you posting this in a Windows XP newsgroup, anyway? I think pretty much everyone in this group already knows that Windows XP as well as all versions of MSIE for Windows XP have no support any more. And don't need it - except perhaps for that generously provided here. And I think those that still uses XP, whether they still use MSIE or not, have their reason(s) to do so. Absolutely. +1 |
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Old IE's are now officially dead from next week
Bill in Co wrote:
And IE is ultimately being superceded by Microsoft Edge. Not while it doesn't accept add-ons, it's not. Microsoft Edge is not available in some Enterprise version of Windows 10 either. There is some version of Windows 10 which is claimed to have "only long term stable" software in it, so Edge was excluded. And with Microsoft, you can't really tell what their plan is. Whether Edge is a real replacement for IE, or merely an "App they're screwing around with". Just like Groove was kind of a joke, and now it's part of some payware program. (Groove would not continue to play music, if you iconified it. It would suspend like the other Apps do.) If you want to compete in the browser market, your product should be "feature complete" when the first copy ships. I would not think the tolerance for "half finished" software would be that good, in a market full of mature, feature rich products. It's OK to deliver crap, if the software you've developed is somehow "unique" and does something brand new. As it is right now, I'm not even tracking Edge, to find out whether they've finished it or not. Paul |
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Old IE's are now officially dead from next week
On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 17:58:02 +0000, Good Guy
wrote: XP users, your choice is now almost over as far as using Microsoft Internet Explorer is concerned. It is dead from next week so move on to Windows 10 or get Mozilla Firefox If people are willing to use XP without support, why would end of support for IE be any more of a concern? -- Remove del for email |
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Old IE's are now officially dead from next week
On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 11:58:04 AM UTC-6, Good Guy wrote:
XP users, your choice is now almost over as far as using Microsoft Internet Explorer is concerned.* It is dead from next week so move on to Windows 10 or get Mozilla Firefox https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/WindowsForBusiness/End-of-IE-support Good riddance!!!!!!!!!!!! -- This post contains rich text (HTML). if you don't like it then you can kill-filter the poster without crying about it like a small baby so that you don't see this poster's posts ever again. This message is best read in Mozilla Thunderbird as it uses 21st century technology. Very few use I.E., so no big deal. Win 10 ain't got nothing over XP. Andy |
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Old IE's are now officially dead from next week
[Default] On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 23:58:41 -0800, in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general Barry Schwarz wrote: On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 17:58:02 +0000, Good Guy wrote: XP users, your choice is now almost over as far as using Microsoft Internet Explorer is concerned. It is dead from next week so move on to Windows 10 or get Mozilla Firefox If people are willing to use XP without support, why would end of support for IE be any more of a concern? Well, I think there are more innovations in webpages that require improvements in the web browser than there are innovations in programs that require improvments in the operating system. If there are programs that won't run under XP, we usually find out soon enough and don't run them. But people look at webpages from all over the place and few come with warnings about what browser they need, and even if they do, when one is in the middle of browsing, it's a pain to have to open another browser. Plus webpages keep getting updated. |
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Old IE's are now officially dead from next week
On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 23:58:41 -0800, Barry Schwarz wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 17:58:02 +0000, Good Guy wrote: XP users, your choice is now almost over as far as using Microsoft Internet Explorer is concerned. It is dead from next week so move on to Windows 10 or get Mozilla Firefox If people are willing to use XP without support, why would end of support for IE be any more of a concern? I continue to use XP, with the "hack" to allow updates until 2019. Everything runs fine. |
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Old IE's are now officially dead from next week
On Thu, 07 Jan 2016 02:36:28 -0500, Paul wrote:
And with Microsoft, you can't really tell what their plan is. Whether Edge is a real replacement for IE, or merely an "App they're screwing around with". Just like Groove was kind of a joke, and now it's part of some payware program. (Groove would not continue to play music, if you iconified it. It would suspend like the other Apps do.) If you want to compete in the browser market, your product should be "feature complete" when the first copy ships. I would not think the tolerance for "half finished" software would be that good, in a market full of mature, feature rich products. It's OK to deliver crap, if the software you've developed is somehow "unique" and does something brand new. As it is right now, I'm not even tracking Edge, to find out whether they've finished it or not. That's true, especially for well known and veteran companies such as Microsoft. The quality of nowaday softwares have likely rubbed onto Microsoft. The OS documentations are proof of that. IMO, Microsoft is serious about Edge. Unlike the short lived Active Desktop and Windows Gadgets which are finally a done deal with Apps (crap). Edge is for a long term plan considering how long it would take to dump the whole web browser engine (i.e. MSIE; since 1995). MSIE was way behind other browsers. Working around MSIE engine which is already huge enough to make it better, would be way too complex. It's probably why Microsoft spawn a new one without MSIE specific features. The main reason why Microsoft don't dump the whole MSIE now is because MSIE engine can use ActiveX which is still being used by some big companies for e.g. video chat, game, etc. The second reason is that MSIE engine components (e.g. JScript engine, HTML engine, and browser control) are embeddable into applications wile Edge's aren't yet. This is a big issue for software developers, so MSIE is unlikely to go away soon. It'll stay at least until Edge is embeddable into applications. Or it may still stay as the embeddable web browser using EdgeHTML and without Trident and MSIE specific features, while Microsoft Edge will be the standalone web browser. |
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