Wish microsoft invent new start button

It would be great if we could come back to start again. I guess there is
nothing more to invent but I will wait for next windows. For now I'm very
happy with current system. Still miss a little bit Windows 98. I think my
old father predicted windows would have the 100 version then he disappeared.

On 02/16/2014 06:14 PM, espectador wrote:
It would be great if we could come back to start again. I guess there is
nothing more to invent but I will wait for next windows. For now I'm
very happy with current system. Still miss a little bit Windows 98. I
think my old father predicted windows would have the 100 version then he
disappeared.



Just use a 3rd party utility such as Start 8 or Classic Shell

if you want your interface to look like that of Win7

On 2/16/2014 7:14 PM, espectador wrote:
It would be great if we could come back to start again. I guess there is
nothing more to invent but I will wait for next windows. For now I'm
very happy with current system. Still miss a little bit Windows 98. I
think my old father predicted windows would have the 100 version then he
disappeared.

I highly recommend start8 from Stardock software, yes it costs money,
but it's only $4.99, i've tried ALL the other start button replacement
programs (the freeware) and nothing was as stable and speedy as Start8

On 21 Feb 2014, Todd wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

And, there is a forum and a bug tracker. You can actually
report a bug to the developer(s) and get it fixed, unlike
commercial software.

Do you really think that no commercial software maker will respond to
bug reports or fix their software?

On 21 Feb 2014, usenetopian wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

I highly recommend start8 from Stardock software, yes it costs
money, but it's only $4.99, i've tried ALL the other start button
replacement programs (the freeware) and nothing was as stable and
speedy as Start8

Why do you like Start8 over Classic Shell?

On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 21:02:06 -0500, usenetopian
wrote:


I highly recommend start8 from Stardock software, yes it costs money,
but it's only $4.99, i've tried ALL the other start button replacement
programs (the freeware) and nothing was as stable and speedy as Start8



I am also a Start8 fan, and think it's the best of those I tried. I
also like Classic Shell, but not as much a Start8, and since Start8 is
so inexpensive I settled on it. I can no longer remember the
differences between them, but I didn't find Start8 to be either more
stable or speedier than Classic Shell.

On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 20:48:41 -0800, Todd wrote:

On 02/21/2014 08:18 PM, Nil wrote:
On 21 Feb 2014, usenetopian wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

I highly recommend start8 from Stardock software, yes it costs
money, but it's only $4.99, i've tried ALL the other start button
replacement programs (the freeware) and nothing was as stable and
speedy as Start8

Why do you like Start8 over Classic Shell?


I would like to know too. I have heard a lot of nice things
but never used it


My recommendation, to both of you, is to ignore the reasons why others
(including me) prefer it. Try Start8 (it comes with a 30-day free
trial) and decide for yourself.

On 22/02/2014 3:41 PM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 21:02:06 -0500, usenetopian
wrote:


I highly recommend start8 from Stardock software, yes it costs money,
but it's only $4.99, i've tried ALL the other start button replacement
programs (the freeware) and nothing was as stable and speedy as Start8



I am also a Start8 fan, and think it's the best of those I tried. I
also like Classic Shell, but not as much a Start8, and since Start8 is
so inexpensive I settled on it. I can no longer remember the
differences between them, but I didn't find Start8 to be either more
stable or speedier than Classic Shell.


I also can't remember exactly why, but I removed Start 8 very quickly
from here since caused lock-ups. Classic Shell worked fine, so I didn't
investigate, I just removed Start 8 sharpish.

--
Bob - Tetbury, Gloucestershire, UK

A hangover is the wrath of grapes.

On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 16:06:29 +0000, Bob Henson
wrote:

On 22/02/2014 3:41 PM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

I am also a Start8 fan, and think it's the best of those I tried. I
also like Classic Shell, but not as much a Start8, and since Start8 is
so inexpensive I settled on it. I can no longer remember the
differences between them, but I didn't find Start8 to be either more
stable or speedier than Classic Shell.


I also can't remember exactly why, but I removed Start 8 very quickly
from here since caused lock-ups. Classic Shell worked fine, so I didn't
investigate, I just removed Start 8 sharpish.


How odd! I have Start8 on two machines here, and neither has ever had
a single problem with it. And I know many other Start8 users who also
never had a problem with it.

You didn't have them both running at once, did you?

On 22 Feb 2014, "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

My recommendation, to both of you, is to ignore the reasons why
others (including me) prefer it. Try Start8 (it comes with a
30-day free trial) and decide for yourself.

No. I'm more interested in why he likes it.

On 2/22/2014 1:39 PM, Nil wrote:
On 22 Feb 2014, "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

My recommendation, to both of you, is to ignore the reasons why
others (including me) prefer it. Try Start8 (it comes with a
30-day free trial) and decide for yourself.

No. I'm more interested in why he likes it.


it's fast, stable (other freeware I've tried do not resemble the
original start feature/button like start8) you can pick the design of
the start button logo, other versions have hung/crashed when I tried
them out, or when I click the start button there is a delay when the
program list comes up, whereas start8 is very fast. I use an earlier
version with the win 7 logo button design and won't upgrade, the newest
version they took that off for some reason (lawsuit from M$ ? not sure)

my 2 cents, I wouldn't trade this for any other start button replacement

On 2/22/2014 3:10 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 08:41:32 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 21:02:06 -0500, usenetopian
wrote:


I highly recommend start8 from Stardock software, yes it costs money,
but it's only $4.99, i've tried ALL the other start button replacement
programs (the freeware) and nothing was as stable and speedy as Start8



I am also a Start8 fan, and think it's the best of those I tried. I
also like Classic Shell, but not as much a Start8, and since Start8 is
so inexpensive I settled on it. I can no longer remember the
differences between them, but I didn't find Start8 to be either more
stable or speedier than Classic Shell.

What is the difference between
Classic Shell http://classicshell.net/
Classic Start8 http://www.classicstart8.com/
Start 8 http://download.cnet.com/Start8/3000...-75732532.html

Look at the TOC of start8 at
http://www.classicstart8.com/Legal/TermsOfUse.aspx. The damn thing
appears to be total spyware and other crapware.

I think I am the only one that uses Aston Menu here. Although it is
trickier than heck to install it under Windows 8 (easy under XP, Vista,
and 7) and maybe I am the only one here that can do it.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v24.3.0
Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center

On 22 Feb 2014, usenetopian wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

it's fast, stable (other freeware I've tried do not resemble the
original start feature/button like start8) you can pick the design
of the start button logo, other versions have hung/crashed when I
tried them out, or when I click the start button there is a delay
when the program list comes up, whereas start8 is very fast. I use
an earlier version with the win 7 logo button design and won't
upgrade, the newest version they took that off for some reason
(lawsuit from M$ ? not sure)

my 2 cents, I wouldn't trade this for any other start button
replacement

OK! That's exactly what I wanted to know. Thanks!

On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:01:39 -0500, usenetopian
wrote:

On 2/22/2014 1:39 PM, Nil wrote:
On 22 Feb 2014, "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

My recommendation, to both of you, is to ignore the reasons why
others (including me) prefer it. Try Start8 (it comes with a
30-day free trial) and decide for yourself.

No. I'm more interested in why he likes it.


it's fast, stable (other freeware I've tried do not resemble the
original start feature/button like start8) you can pick the design of
the start button logo, other versions have hung/crashed when I tried
them out, or when I click the start button there is a delay when the
program list comes up, whereas start8 is very fast. I use an earlier
version with the win 7 logo button design and won't upgrade, the newest
version they took that off for some reason (lawsuit from M$ ? not sure)

my 2 cents, I wouldn't trade this for any other start button replacement



You're $4.97 short. vbg

On 22/02/2014 6:17 PM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 16:06:29 +0000, Bob Henson
wrote:

On 22/02/2014 3:41 PM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

I am also a Start8 fan, and think it's the best of those I tried. I
also like Classic Shell, but not as much a Start8, and since Start8 is
so inexpensive I settled on it. I can no longer remember the
differences between them, but I didn't find Start8 to be either more
stable or speedier than Classic Shell.


I also can't remember exactly why, but I removed Start 8 very quickly
from here since caused lock-ups. Classic Shell worked fine, so I didn't
investigate, I just removed Start 8 sharpish.


How odd! I have Start8 on two machines here, and neither has ever had
a single problem with it. And I know many other Start8 users who also
never had a problem with it.

You didn't have them both running at once, did you?



I don't think so, Ken. I recall I looking like a video problem - but
didn't stop to investigate. I was trying out several different methods
of making Windows 8 look like a real GUI for the folk I visited in my
volunteer job. As my free copy of Windows 8 has run out now, I can't try
it again to find out what the problem was. Conceivably, it was just on
this system, and/or connected to running in a VM.

--
Bob - Tetbury, Gloucestershire, UK

If I only had a little humility, I'd be perfect.