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Convert those dastardly curly quotes to straight quotes on Windows?
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 12:49:57 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote: In message , Joy Beeson writes: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 04:28:19 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote: I don't know if there's any substance that you call jam. "jelly" is Where are you speaking from? jellied fruit juice. Commercial jelly is filtered off clear, leaving it tasting rather like sugar-water, and over-pectined so much that it shatters when you try to spread it. Less often, "jelly" refers to the gelatin-stiff meat broth sometimes found on canned meat or under a roast. "Jelly" is also used metaphorically for substances that resemble, or are fancied to resemble, either of these foods. ("Petroleum jelly', for example.) "jam" is mashed fruit cooked down with sugar and, sometimes, extra pectin. When jam is sold in supermarkets, it's always mis-labeled "preserves". Real preserves are not available, but some "fruit spreads" come close. Those sound pretty close to the UK usage of the two terms, _as applied to spreadable fruit products_, though I think I've only come across jelly in that sense (in UK) applied to that made from blackcurrants/brambles and possibly lemons. Even the cheapest here is _labelled_ jam: I bought a couple of 454g (1 lb) jars on Monday, and both the 29p one (which looks very uniform, though dark enough that I think it does contain fruit solids) and the 49p one are both labelled jam. Here, the _aisle_ in the supermarket I notice may be labelled preserves, but the individual _jars_ (when they're not honey, peanut butter, marmalade, hazelnut spread, etc. - they put them all in that aisle) are mostly labelled as jam. Some of the more expensive ones might call themselves preserves, but the bottom two or three tiers (quality-wise) will say jam. In my youth we (in South Africa) used to be able to get quince jelly and apple jelly, but those days are long gone. The only jaames now available are melon and ginger, strawberry, apricot and mixed fruit. And marmalade, The rubbery coloured cubes (probably in a different aisle) for dissolving in warm water to make a wobbly fruity dessert are always (in UK) labelled jelly. (I don't _think_ I've ever seen the products of the Jell-O company on sale here, though I guess they will be somewhere; the dominant make used to be Robertsons I think, though is probably about equal with own-brand now.) "Preserves" are whole berries or bite-size chunks of larger fruits preserved in a syrup or jelly drawn out of the fruit by cooking it with dry sugar. Right. (We also have "jellied fruits" - not an area I'm familiar with, but I think mainly sold as an ingredient in the cake-making aisle, where you'd find things like toppings, icing sugar, and so on.) -- Steve Hayes http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm http://khanya.wordpress.com |
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 23:05:14 +1100, Peter Moylan
wrote: On 18/10/17 13:33, Steve Hayes wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 12:49:12 -0400, "Mayayana" wrote: "Ken Blake" wrote Thats one of the reasons I stick with Pegasus, which is set to send and read only in plain text. Almost *any* e-mail program can do the same thing. I use Outlook.exe, and it's set the same way. I still use OE6, which also has that choice and blocks script. TBird defaults to not loading remote images, which seems like a nice option to me. There's really no reason, other than spying, to link images remotely when the image itself can easily be embedded. It does save bandwidth, and I suppose banks that send out lots of stuff might save a bit that way. The problem is that one of the worst offenders in sending HTML-only mail with remote images is my bank, and the spammers and malware distributors have cottoned on to this, and I get about 6 fake bank statements for every real one. Here's another example of unintended consequences. For a long time Google presented links in search results as a redirect via Google so that Google could track us. (Perhaps it's still doing it, but I can't tell because I have a browser add-on that removes the tracking information.) Now that people have become used to that, scammers have started putting URLs in e-mail in the form of redirects via Google, to make it harder to see what the link is really pointing to. Ah, I thought they actually pointed to Google forms, where they tried to get you to fill in your username and password for phishing scams. If I'm feeling bored I sometimes fill up the forms with bogus information just to waste their time as they waste mine. -- Steve Hayes http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm http://khanya.wordpress.com |
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Convert those dastardly curly quotes to straight quotes on Windows?
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 08:15:22 -0400, "Mayayana"
wrote: "Steve Hayes" wrote | It does save bandwidth, and I suppose banks that send out lots of | stuff might save a bit that way. The problem is that one of the worst | offenders in sending HTML-only mail with remote images is my bank, and | the spammers and malware distributors have cottoned on to this, and I | get about 6 fake bank statements for every real one. | That's become one of the most common attacks. Another good reason to minimize involvement with online commerce. If you don't bank online then you don't need to try to figure out whether emails are real. It doesn't take much figuring out. It's very unlikely that my (Southb African) bank would use an address like btconnect. It seems ominous, though, that someone knows to send you scams with the right bank name. It sounds like they've somehow got a customer list. When I get those emails it's typically something like Wells Fargo, a company I do no business with. Yes indeed. When I first got bank phishing scams 9 out of 10 were for banks I didn't do business with. They are getting more accurate, though as there are only about 5 major banks in South Africa it may be just luck. -- Steve Hayes http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm http://khanya.wordpress.com |
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Convert those dastardly curly quotes to straight quotes on Windows?
In article ,
Steve Hayes wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 08:15:22 -0400, "Mayayana" wrote: "Steve Hayes" wrote | It does save bandwidth, and I suppose banks that send out lots of | stuff might save a bit that way. The problem is that one of the worst | offenders in sending HTML-only mail with remote images is my bank, and | the spammers and malware distributors have cottoned on to this, and I | get about 6 fake bank statements for every real one. | That's become one of the most common attacks. Another good reason to minimize involvement with online commerce. If you don't bank online then you don't need to try to figure out whether emails are real. It doesn't take much figuring out. It's very unlikely that my (Southb African) bank would use an address like btconnect. It seems ominous, though, that someone knows to send you scams with the right bank name. It sounds like they've somehow got a customer list. When I get those emails it's typically something like Wells Fargo, a company I do no business with. Yes indeed. When I first got bank phishing scams 9 out of 10 were for banks I didn't do business with. They are getting more accurate, though as there are only about 5 major banks in South Africa it may be just luck. In the early days of this "sport", I got one from The Bank of England. (if only) -- from KT24 in Surrey, England |
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In message , charles
writes: In article , Steve Hayes wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 08:15:22 -0400, "Mayayana" wrote: [] It seems ominous, though, that someone knows to send you scams with the right bank name. It sounds like they've somehow got a customer list. When I get those emails it's typically something like Wells Fargo, a company I do no business with. Yes indeed. When I first got bank phishing scams 9 out of 10 were for banks I didn't do business with. They are getting more accurate, though as there are only about 5 major banks in South Africa it may be just luck. In the early days of this "sport", I got one from The Bank of England. (if only) I believe there _are_ some people with private accounts with it - but they're highly unlikely to be susceptible to scams! -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf If your mind goes blank, remember to turn down the sound. |
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In message , Steve Hayes
writes: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 14:40:30 +0100, Janet wrote: In article , says... My mum used to make something she called fresh-air pudding, that _was_ made with gelatine (the little rubbery flavoured cubes, dissolved in warm water, same as you'd use for a jelly [UK]/jello [US]), with the addition of either condensed or evaporated (I can't remember), whipped into a froth and left to set in the 'fridge. I don't know where she got the idea. Maybe from my mother :-) it was a childrens favourite in 1950's UK. We called it milk jelly. Blancmange? No - doesn't that involve eggs or something of similarly custardy consistency? Not the same, anyway: fresh-air pud was made from _only_ jelly cubes and whichever milk it was, and (if made correctly) was melt-in-the-mouth to eat. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf If your mind goes blank, remember to turn down the sound. |
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In article , J. P. Gilliver (John)
wrote: In message , charles writes: In article , Steve Hayes wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 08:15:22 -0400, "Mayayana" wrote: [] It seems ominous, though, that someone knows to send you scams with the right bank name. It sounds like they've somehow got a customer list. When I get those emails it's typically something like Wells Fargo, a company I do no business with. Yes indeed. When I first got bank phishing scams 9 out of 10 were for banks I didn't do business with. They are getting more accurate, though as there are only about 5 major banks in South Africa it may be just luck. In the early days of this "sport", I got one from The Bank of England. (if only) I believe there _are_ some people with private accounts with it - but they're highly unlikely to be susceptible to scams! Yes, employees can have accounts there. -- from KT24 in Surrey, England |
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Convert those dastardly curly quotes to straight quotes on Windows?
J. P. Gilliver (John) schreef op Wo 18 Okt 2017 om 12:30:
In message , BugHunter writes: BugHunter schreef op Di 17 Okt 2017 om 19:00: [] I have an app who can send binaries with usenet. It converts them to a hexdump, en you can paste it in the text. Copy it and start the app and paste it in a textfile and the binary is back to the other side. Nice for small binaries. You can get it he http://bughunter.byethost7.com/binaries.zip Surely the old UUcode could do that? Or does your utility work regardless of "", ":" etc. that have been prepended to lines? UUcode is not allowed. If there is need to work with etc it is easely to make it. But I don't see the need. -- \ / http://nieuwsgroepen.tk ------------///----------------------------- / \ Bye, BugHunter |
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Convert those dastardly curly quotes to straight quotes on Windows?
Mayayana schreef op Wo 18 Okt 2017 om 08:10:
"BugHunter" wrote | I have an app who can send binaries with | usenet. It converts them to a hexdump, en | you can paste it in the text. Copy it and | start the app and paste it in a textfile | and the binary is back to the other side. | Nice for small binaries. | | | You can get it he | | http://bughunter.byethost7.com/binaries.zip Link is redirected to a page that requires script. Even the homepage breaks unless one allows script that runs a convoluted encryption routine to set the real URL. Not a friendly-looking site. At any rate, you really don't need special software for Base64 encoding. I keep a VBScript on my desktop for that -- to decrypt obfuscation snippets in webpages, dubious email attachments, etc. Just copy the following to Notepad, save as something like Base64.vbs, then drop a file onto it. You'll get a Yes/No message. Click Yes to encode the file content as Base64, No to decode. It will work for any file format. Watch out for email wordwrap below. The line ANums = Array(.... needs to be all on one line. In most email windows some of the other lines will probably also wrap. If you prefer the pre-written script, download the "handy desktop pack" he http://www.jsware.net/jsware/scrfiles.php5#desk The script will also handle the line returns used in email attachments. '------------- begin script -------------------------- Dim FSO, TS, sIn, sOut, Arg, IfEncode, OFil, LSize, LRet Arg = WScript.Arguments(0) LRet = MsgBox("Click yes to encode file or no to decode.", 36) If LRet = 6 Then IfEncode = True Else IfEncode = False End If Set FSO = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject") Set OFil = FSO.GetFile(Arg) LSize = OFil.Size Set OFil = Nothing Set TS = FSO.OpenTextFile(Arg) sIn = TS.Read(LSize) Set TS = Nothing If IfEncode = True Then sOut = ConvertToBase64(sIn, True) Set TS = FSO.CreateTextFile(Arg & "-64", True) TS.Write sOut TS.Close Set TS = Nothing Else sOut = DecodeBase64(sIn) Set TS = FSO.CreateTextFile(Arg & "-de64", True) TS.Write sOut TS.Close Set TS = Nothing End If Set FSO = Nothing MsgBox "Done." '------------------------------------------------------ Function ConvertToBase64(sBytes, AddReturns) Dim B2(), B76(), ABytes(), ANums Dim i1, i2, i3, LenA, NumReturns, sRet On Error Resume Next ANums = Array(65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119, 120, 121, 122, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 43, 47) LenA = Len(sBytes) '-- convert each string character to ASCII value. ReDim ABytes(LenA - 1) For i1 = 1 to LenA ABytes(i1 - 1) = Asc(Mid(sBytes, i1, 1)) Next '-- generate base 64 equivalent in array B2. ReDim Preserve ABytes(((LenA - 1) \ 3) * 3 + 2) ReDim Preserve B2((UBound(ABytes) \ 3) * 4 + 3) i2 = 0 For i1 = 0 To (UBound(ABytes) - 1) Step 3 B2(i2) = ANums(ABytes(i1) \ 4) i2 = i2 + 1 B2(i2) = ANums((ABytes(i1 + 1) \ 16) Or (ABytes(i1) And 3) * 16) i2 = i2 + 1 B2(i2) = ANums((ABytes(i1 + 2) \ 64) Or (ABytes(i1 + 1) And 15) * 4) i2 = i2 + 1 B2(i2) = ANums(ABytes(i1 + 2) And 63) i2 = i2 + 1 Next For i1 = 1 To i1 - LenA B2(UBound(B2) - i1 + 1) = 61 ' add = signs at end if necessary. Next '-- Most email programs use a maximum of 76 characters per line when encoding '-- binary files as base 64. This next function achieves that by generating another '--- array big enough for the added vbCrLfs, then copying the base 64 array over. If (AddReturns = True) And (LenA 76) Then NumReturns = ((UBound(B2) + 1) \ 76) LenA = (UBound(B2) + (NumReturns * 2)) '--make B76 B2 plus 2 spots for each vbcrlf. ReDim B76(LenA) i2 = 0 i3 = 0 For i1 = 0 To UBound(B2) B76(i2) = B2(i1) i2 = i2 + 1 i3 = i3 + 1 If (i3 = 76) And (i2 (LenA - 2)) Then '--extra check. make sure there are still B76(i2) = 13 '-- 2 spots left for return if at end. B76(i2 + 1) = 10 i2 = i2 + 2 i3 = 0 End If Next For i1 = 0 to UBound(B76) B76(i1) = Chr(B76(i1)) Next sRet = Join(B76, "") Else For i1 = 0 to UBound(B2) B2(i1) = Chr(B2(i1)) Next sRet = Join(B2, "") End If ConvertToBase64 = sRet End Function Function DecodeBase64(Str64) Dim B1(), B2() Dim i1, i2, i3, LLen, UNum, s2, sRet, ANums Dim A255(255) On Error Resume Next ANums = Array(65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119, 120, 121, 122, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 43, 47) For i1 = 0 To 255 A255(i1) = 64 Next For i1 = 0 To 63 A255(ANums(i1)) = i1 Next s2 = Replace(Str64, vbCr, "") s2 = Replace(s2, vbLf, "") s2 = Replace(s2, " ", "") s2 = Trim(s2) LLen = Len(s2) ReDim B1(LLen - 1) For i1 = 1 to LLen B1(i1 - 1) = Asc(Mid(s2, i1, 1)) Next '--B1 is now in-string as array. ReDim B2((LLen \ 4) * 3 - 1) i2 = 0 For i1 = 0 To UBound(B1) Step 4 B2(i2) = (A255(B1(i1)) * 4) Or (A255(B1(i1 + 1)) \ 16) i2 = i2 + 1 B2(i2) = (A255(B1(i1 + 1)) And 15) * 16 Or (A255(B1(i1 + 2)) \ 4) i2 = i2 + 1 B2(i2) = (A255(B1(i1 + 2)) And 3) * 64 Or A255(B1(i1 + 3)) i2 = i2 + 1 Next If B1(LLen - 2) = 61 Then i2 = 2 ElseIf B1(LLen - 1) = 61 Then i2 = 1 Else i2 = 0 End If UNum = UBound(B2) - i2 ReDim Preserve B2(UNum) For i1 = 0 to UBound(B2) B2(i1) = Chr(B2(i1)) Next DecodeBase64 = Join(B2, "") End Function The link was broken, sorry. But the clue is that base 64 and uucode are not allowed and a hexdump though. Thanks for the program. -- \ / http://nieuwsgroepen.tk ------------///----------------------------- / \ Bye, BugHunter |
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says... In message , Janet writes: In article , says... (In UK, Tampax used to be the commonest trade-name-derived generic term, though I'd say that was quite a few years ago; I think these days we actually do use just the term "sanitary towels".) No, we don't. The generic term is sanitary protection, covering all types of internal and external use. In UK Tampax are tampons, used internally. Tampons are nothing like sanitary towels, pads used externally. Janet. [] I was thinking as I typed that that there was something wrong with what I was saying. However, I think there was a time when Tampax was the only term in general use at all - I don't recall that. Lillets were around too, another common brand of tampon. I don't remember a term for the external product, either a generic term or trade name; British media (and for that matter society) were rather coy about them. I see you never went to buy them. Back when sanitary towels (and condoms) were still discreetly kept out of view in the chemist shop, you would ask the assistant for "ST's". She would slide the packet into an anonymous paper bag before handing them over. Yes, of course, tampon is the generic term for the internal one, though I don't think I see it used as much - in general public use; being a male, I don't read targeted literature, so I can't comment on the coverage there. There's still a certain coyness: I'm thinking of a much-advertised-on-TV product, which "gives you freedom" or something like that - I don't _think_ the ad.s actually say what the product is. No wonder, "wet tampon" sounds so unappealing I don't know why Beppy called them that. It's a sponge. Janet |
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On 18/10/17 23:21, David_B wrote:
On 18-Oct-17 1:05 PM, Peter Moylan wrote: [....] Here's another example of unintended consequences. For a long time Google presented links in search results as a redirect via Google so that Google could track us. (Perhaps it's still doing it, but I can't tell because I have a browser add-on that removes the tracking information.) Now that people have become used to that, scammers have started putting URLs in e-mail in the form of redirects via Google, to make it harder to see what the link is really pointing to. On the positive side, this does have the potential of letting Google keep track of how many people have fallen for the scam. Peter, What are your views on the content of this post which I made earlier? = Here is one of the most clearly described policy documents which I have ever read. https://plarium.com//en/privacy-and-cookie-policy/ It's clear enough. Sufficiently clear to make me want to avoid that company. But perhaps they're simply admitting to what some other companies do by stealth. -- Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org Newcastle, NSW, Australia |
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Privacy policy document (was - Convert those dastardly curlyquotes to straight quotes on Windows?)
On 19-Oct-17 2:49 AM, Peter Moylan wrote:
On 18/10/17 23:21, David_B wrote:[ [....] What are your views on the content of this post which I made earlier? = Here is one of the most clearly described policy documents which I have ever read. https://plarium.com//en/privacy-and-cookie-policy/ It's clear enough. Sufficiently clear to make me want to avoid that company. But perhaps they're simply admitting to what some other companies do by stealth. Thanks. The company provide many on-line games. https://www.youtube.com/user/PlariumGames I doubt that many of the game players ever read the Terms and Conditions! ;-) [Reply shared with 'alt.computer.workshop'] -- David B. |
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On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 10:46:48 +0100, David_B
wrote: On 19-Oct-17 2:49 AM, Peter Moylan wrote: On 18/10/17 23:21, David_B wrote:[ [....] What are your views on the content of this post which I made earlier? = Here is one of the most clearly described policy documents which I have ever read. https://plarium.com//en/privacy-and-cookie-policy/ It's clear enough. The TOS is pretty clear, same as most sites/forums: YOU MAY NOT: create an Account using a false identity or information, or on behalf of someone other than yourself; have an Account or use the Service if you have previously been BANNED; use your Account, the Site or Service to transmit any repetitive messages (spim and spam) to anyone; use your Account or Service to engage in any illegal conduct; access another user’s account without permission; collect or harvest any information about other users; use features of the Site or Service for anything other than their intended purpose; [Reply shared with 'alt.computer.workshop'] Why ? It's OT here. Oh, I see, you posted as a warning: https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php Changelog: New nym**** added (I spelled it correctly). []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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He who is Peter Moylan said on Sun, 15 Oct 2017 10:59:55 +1100:
Every time I install an operating system, I change the desktop to a restful light brown. (Women will have a different name for this colour. Interesting that you note that we men generally use a handful of ROYGBIV colors while women go overboard on the naming conventions! Me? I use "black" for the desktop because it uses the least electricity. White for the command windows because it's the most like paper. Unless it's an admin window, and then it's red (for danger). http://wetakepic.com/images/2017/10/20/desktop.jpg In case anyone cares, it's (244,205,160) in RGB terms, or HSB=(32,34,95).) That's light enough that black text and icons are readable, and dark enough not to hurt my eyes with the glare. What's wrong with black? [I don't insist on those precise values. I just tweak the colour until it looks about right.] I like black because the contrast is good and the electricity situation is, I am told, the best for most types of displays (but not all, where white is actually better electrically, for some display types). I've never understood the fashion for using a picture as background. That only guarantees that some parts of the screen will be readable and others won't. I think most people want to feel that they have *control* over their environment, hence they go overboard on themes and screensavers and backgrounds. To each his/her own, but I don't consider changing the font or the color a useful customization. Getting rid of Cortana? Now that's a useful customization. For other objects I use different colour settings to make it clearer which window is which. For example, the window into which I'm now typing is a bit yellower than the desktop, and beside it is my programmer's editor that has white text on a blue background. But I do try to ensure that there's not too much white on my screen, because that's hard on the eyes. Yep. I use red for any command window as admin, for example, so that it stands out that it's admin. http://wetakepic.com/images/2017/10/20/desktop.jpg |
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