Windows 10 Text

Having finally be forced to use Windows 10 (new computer - the only
thing that could make me!) I have managed to sort out most of its many
problems other than the one which is a major problem to me at my
advanced age - all the standard text is am anaemic grey, not black. I've
read umpteen answers to the problem online, most of which involve trying
to use the high contrast themes and none of which (so far) have worked
without causing me more problems than they are worth. Increasing the
text size to, say, 125% helps me a lot with the microscopically small
text size (19" 1920 x 1080 screen) but makes the text dramatically paler
grey and hopelessly blurred. Naturally, I've made sure that I have the
latest drivers installed, and adjusted the screen settings as well as
possible. I've tuned the Cleartype settings to the optimum. Graphics in
games are remarkably good with the GTX 980 Ti 6Gb card, and I can adjust
the text within some programs (or parts of them) to look a bit better
using different fonts.

Before I resign myself to it never being any better than this, has
anyone any ideas where I could look for a way to change the Windows 10
global text settings to something more useable? Is there, for example,
an easy registry hack to change the global text colour from grey to
black (and perhaps to a more legible font than Segoe - albeit that is a
secondary issue, it's the colour that's important)? I imagine I'm on a
hopeless quest - but maybe I've missed something simple in my research?

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On 18-Oct-17 9:09 AM, Bob Henson wrote:
Having finally be forced to use Windows 10 (new computer - the only
thing that could make me!) I have managed to sort out most of its many
problems other than the one which is a major problem to me at my
advanced age - all the standard text is am anaemic grey, not black. I've
read umpteen answers to the problem online, most of which involve trying
to use the high contrast themes and none of which (so far) have worked
without causing me more problems than they are worth. Increasing the
text size to, say, 125% helps me a lot with the microscopically small
text size (19" 1920 x 1080 screen) but makes the text dramatically paler
grey and hopelessly blurred. Naturally, I've made sure that I have the
latest drivers installed, and adjusted the screen settings as well as
possible. I've tuned the Cleartype settings to the optimum. Graphics in
games are remarkably good with the GTX 980 Ti 6Gb card, and I can adjust
the text within some programs (or parts of them) to look a bit better
using different fonts.

Before I resign myself to it never being any better than this, has
anyone any ideas where I could look for a way to change the Windows 10
global text settings to something more useable? Is there, for example,
an easy registry hack to change the global text colour from grey to
black (and perhaps to a more legible font than Segoe - albeit that is a
secondary issue, it's the colour that's important)? I imagine I'm on a
hopeless quest - but maybe I've missed something simple in my research?

Hi Bob - your frustration simply oozes out of your message! ;-)

I'm using Windows 10 on my laptop and I do NOT have the problem you
describe. Are you having this 'grey' text everywhere on your machine or
is it when you are using a specific programme?

--
David B.

Addendum!

Look through here and see if there's any help available!

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...n +Windows+10

HTH

--
David B.

On 18/10/2017 10:31 AM, David_B wrote:
On 18-Oct-17 9:09 AM, Bob Henson wrote:
Having finally be forced to use Windows 10 (new computer - the only
thing that could make me!) I have managed to sort out most of its many
problems other than the one which is a major problem to me at my
advanced age - all the standard text is am anaemic grey, not black. I've
read umpteen answers to the problem online, most of which involve trying
to use the high contrast themes and none of which (so far) have worked
without causing me more problems than they are worth. Increasing the
text size to, say, 125% helps me a lot with the microscopically small
text size (19" 1920 x 1080 screen) but makes the text dramatically paler
grey and hopelessly blurred. Naturally, I've made sure that I have the
latest drivers installed, and adjusted the screen settings as well as
possible. I've tuned the Cleartype settings to the optimum. Graphics in
games are remarkably good with the GTX 980 Ti 6Gb card, and I can adjust
the text within some programs (or parts of them) to look a bit better
using different fonts.

Before I resign myself to it never being any better than this, has
anyone any ideas where I could look for a way to change the Windows 10
global text settings to something more useable? Is there, for example,
an easy registry hack to change the global text colour from grey to
black (and perhaps to a more legible font than Segoe - albeit that is a
secondary issue, it's the colour that's important)? I imagine I'm on a
hopeless quest - but maybe I've missed something simple in my research?

Hi Bob - your frustration simply oozes out of your message! ;-)

I'm using Windows 10 on my laptop and I do NOT have the problem you
describe. Are you having this 'grey' text everywhere on your machine or
is it when you are using a specific programme?



Every part that is set by Windows 10's system font.

--
Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England

You know you're old when "getting lucky" means finding your car in the
car park.

On 18-Oct-17 10:55 AM, Bob Henson wrote:
On 18/10/2017 10:31 AM, David_B wrote:
On 18-Oct-17 9:09 AM, Bob Henson wrote:
Having finally be forced to use Windows 10 (new computer - the only
thing that could make me!) I have managed to sort out most of its many
problems other than the one which is a major problem to me at my
advanced age - all the standard text is am anaemic grey, not black. I've
read umpteen answers to the problem online, most of which involve trying
to use the high contrast themes and none of which (so far) have worked
without causing me more problems than they are worth. Increasing the
text size to, say, 125% helps me a lot with the microscopically small
text size (19" 1920 x 1080 screen) but makes the text dramatically paler
grey and hopelessly blurred. Naturally, I've made sure that I have the
latest drivers installed, and adjusted the screen settings as well as
possible. I've tuned the Cleartype settings to the optimum. Graphics in
games are remarkably good with the GTX 980 Ti 6Gb card, and I can adjust
the text within some programs (or parts of them) to look a bit better
using different fonts.

Before I resign myself to it never being any better than this, has
anyone any ideas where I could look for a way to change the Windows 10
global text settings to something more useable? Is there, for example,
an easy registry hack to change the global text colour from grey to
black (and perhaps to a more legible font than Segoe - albeit that is a
secondary issue, it's the colour that's important)? I imagine I'm on a
hopeless quest - but maybe I've missed something simple in my research?

Hi Bob - your frustration simply oozes out of your message! ;-)

I'm using Windows 10 on my laptop and I do NOT have the problem you
describe. Are you having this 'grey' text everywhere on your machine or
is it when you are using a specific programme?



Every part that is set by Windows 10's system font.

Thanks. I found THIS article for you.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-c...ont-windows-10

I hope it helps. :-)

--
David B.

On 18/10/2017 10:39 AM, David_B wrote:
Addendum!

Look through here and see if there's any help available!

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...n +Windows+10

HTH


There are a few interesting ideas there and I'll certainly work my way
though a few more later on. I'd been looking mainly at Google text
searches rather than on Youtube - it's an age thing, words not pictures
:-) I've only looked at a few of them so far, but one of them expanded
on and explained something I'd already seen whereby the "Properties"
settings for some .exe files has a check box to disable the DPI scaling
for that program. Albeit that would not give me a global setting change
such as I sought, that is well worth pursuing for individual programs if
all else fails. I've also had a stroke of luck since writing - finding a
program called "Winaero Tweaker" which enables many settings to be
changed (lots of them useful in ways other than my specific problem
too), including an important one, the ability to change the Windows 10
global font from Segoe. I changed it to Verdana and the slight increase
in text size and clarity without any increase in fuzziness has helped
considerably. Thanks for the ideas - using Youtube hadn't really
occurred to me.

--
Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England

Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

On 18/10/2017 11:05 AM, David_B wrote:
On 18-Oct-17 10:55 AM, Bob Henson wrote:
On 18/10/2017 10:31 AM, David_B wrote:
On 18-Oct-17 9:09 AM, Bob Henson wrote:
Having finally be forced to use Windows 10 (new computer - the only
thing that could make me!) I have managed to sort out most of its many
problems other than the one which is a major problem to me at my
advanced age - all the standard text is am anaemic grey, not black. I've
read umpteen answers to the problem online, most of which involve trying
to use the high contrast themes and none of which (so far) have worked
without causing me more problems than they are worth. Increasing the
text size to, say, 125% helps me a lot with the microscopically small
text size (19" 1920 x 1080 screen) but makes the text dramatically paler
grey and hopelessly blurred. Naturally, I've made sure that I have the
latest drivers installed, and adjusted the screen settings as well as
possible. I've tuned the Cleartype settings to the optimum. Graphics in
games are remarkably good with the GTX 980 Ti 6Gb card, and I can adjust
the text within some programs (or parts of them) to look a bit better
using different fonts.

Before I resign myself to it never being any better than this, has
anyone any ideas where I could look for a way to change the Windows 10
global text settings to something more useable? Is there, for example,
an easy registry hack to change the global text colour from grey to
black (and perhaps to a more legible font than Segoe - albeit that is a
secondary issue, it's the colour that's important)? I imagine I'm on a
hopeless quest - but maybe I've missed something simple in my research?

Hi Bob - your frustration simply oozes out of your message! ;-)

I'm using Windows 10 on my laptop and I do NOT have the problem you
describe. Are you having this 'grey' text everywhere on your machine or
is it when you are using a specific programme?



Every part that is set by Windows 10's system font.

Thanks. I found THIS article for you.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-c...ont-windows-10

I hope it helps. :-)


Ah, I guess that the program I mentioned does exactly that but
graphically - which is helpful to this old geezer :-) I'm going to try a
few more fonts - some of the "black" designated fonts may be better still.


--
Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England

A slug is just a homeless snail.

On 18-Oct-17 11:13 AM, Bob Henson wrote:
On 18/10/2017 10:39 AM, David_B wrote:
Addendum!

Look through here and see if there's any help available!

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...n +Windows+10

HTH


There are a few interesting ideas there and I'll certainly work my way
though a few more later on. I'd been looking mainly at Google text
searches rather than on Youtube - it's an age thing, words not pictures
:-) I've only looked at a few of them so far, but one of them expanded
on and explained something I'd already seen whereby the "Properties"
settings for some .exe files has a check box to disable the DPI scaling
for that program. Albeit that would not give me a global setting change
such as I sought, that is well worth pursuing for individual programs if
all else fails. I've also had a stroke of luck since writing - finding a
program called "Winaero Tweaker" which enables many settings to be
changed (lots of them useful in ways other than my specific problem
too), including an important one, the ability to change the Windows 10
global font from Segoe. I changed it to Verdana and the slight increase
in text size and clarity without any increase in fuzziness has helped
considerably. Thanks for the ideas - using Youtube hadn't really
occurred to me.

You're welcome, Bob. :-)

Glad to have helped.

If you ever want to 'chat' about computing matters do visit the
'workshop' group which I've added on this reply.

Cheers,

David B.

--
David B.

On 18-Oct-17 11:16 AM, Bob Henson wrote:
On 18/10/2017 11:05 AM, David_B wrote:
On 18-Oct-17 10:55 AM, Bob Henson wrote:
On 18/10/2017 10:31 AM, David_B wrote:
On 18-Oct-17 9:09 AM, Bob Henson wrote:
Having finally be forced to use Windows 10 (new computer - the only
thing that could make me!) I have managed to sort out most of its many
problems other than the one which is a major problem to me at my
advanced age - all the standard text is am anaemic grey, not black. I've
read umpteen answers to the problem online, most of which involve trying
to use the high contrast themes and none of which (so far) have worked
without causing me more problems than they are worth. Increasing the
text size to, say, 125% helps me a lot with the microscopically small
text size (19" 1920 x 1080 screen) but makes the text dramatically paler
grey and hopelessly blurred. Naturally, I've made sure that I have the
latest drivers installed, and adjusted the screen settings as well as
possible. I've tuned the Cleartype settings to the optimum. Graphics in
games are remarkably good with the GTX 980 Ti 6Gb card, and I can adjust
the text within some programs (or parts of them) to look a bit better
using different fonts.

Before I resign myself to it never being any better than this, has
anyone any ideas where I could look for a way to change the Windows 10
global text settings to something more useable? Is there, for example,
an easy registry hack to change the global text colour from grey to
black (and perhaps to a more legible font than Segoe - albeit that is a
secondary issue, it's the colour that's important)? I imagine I'm on a
hopeless quest - but maybe I've missed something simple in my research?

Hi Bob - your frustration simply oozes out of your message! ;-)

I'm using Windows 10 on my laptop and I do NOT have the problem you
describe. Are you having this 'grey' text everywhere on your machine or
is it when you are using a specific programme?



Every part that is set by Windows 10's system font.

Thanks. I found THIS article for you.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-c...ont-windows-10

I hope it helps. :-)


Ah, I guess that the program I mentioned does exactly that but
graphically - which is helpful to this old geezer :-) I'm going to try a
few more fonts - some of the "black" designated fonts may be better still.

Good luck! :-)

Bob Henson wrote on 10/18/2017 4:09 AM:
Having finally be forced to use Windows 10 (new computer - the only
thing that could make me!) I have managed to sort out most of its many
problems other than the one which is a major problem to me at my
advanced age - all the standard text is am anaemic grey, not black. I've
read umpteen answers to the problem online, most of which involve trying
to use the high contrast themes and none of which (so far) have worked
without causing me more problems than they are worth. Increasing the
text size to, say, 125% helps me a lot with the microscopically small
text size (19" 1920 x 1080 screen)

Can you change to 1600 x 1200 for example?

Settings Display Resolution

On 18/10/2017 22:37, Alek wrote:
Bob Henson wrote on 10/18/2017 4:09 AM:
Having finally be forced to use Windows 10 (new computer - the only
thing that could make me!) I have managed to sort out most of its many
problems other than the one which is a major problem to me at my
advanced age - all the standard text is am anaemic grey, not black. I've
read umpteen answers to the problem online, most of which involve trying
to use the high contrast themes and none of which (so far) have worked
without causing me more problems than they are worth. Increasing the
text size to, say, 125% helps me a lot with the microscopically small
text size (19" 1920 x 1080 screen)
Can you change to 1600 x 1200 for example?

Settings Display Resolution
How can you say this when you know nothing about what and how is his
screen is currently looking. You need the picture to work out if bob
has serious sight problems.

--
With over 500 million devices now running Windows 10, customer
satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows.

On 18/10/2017 09:09, Bob Henson wrote:
Having finally be forced to use Windows 10 (new computer - the only
thing that could make me!) I have managed to sort out most of its many
problems other than the one which is a major problem to me at my
advanced age - all the standard text is am anaemic grey, not black. I've
read umpteen answers to the problem online, most of which involve trying
to use the high contrast themes and none of which (so far) have worked
without causing me more problems than they are worth. Increasing the
text size to, say, 125% helps me a lot with the microscopically small
text size (19" 1920 x 1080 screen) but makes the text dramatically paler
grey and hopelessly blurred. Naturally, I've made sure that I have the
latest drivers installed, and adjusted the screen settings as well as
possible. I've tuned the Cleartype settings to the optimum. Graphics in
games are remarkably good with the GTX 980 Ti 6Gb card, and I can adjust
the text within some programs (or parts of them) to look a bit better
using different fonts.

Before I resign myself to it never being any better than this, has
anyone any ideas where I could look for a way to change the Windows 10
global text settings to something more useable? Is there, for example,
an easy registry hack to change the global text colour from grey to
black (and perhaps to a more legible font than Segoe - albeit that is a
secondary issue, it's the colour that's important)? I imagine I'm on a
hopeless quest - but maybe I've missed something simple in my research?


I haven't read you entire post but could you post a screenshot of what
you are getting for us to decide what is appropriate for you.

In future please use 6 or 7 lines at most to explain the problem. People
need to move pretty fast when reading these posts.




--
With over 500 million devices now running Windows 10, customer
satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows.

Bob Henson wrote:
Having finally be forced to use Windows 10 (new computer - the only
thing that could make me!) I have managed to sort out most of its many
problems other than the one which is a major problem to me at my
advanced age - all the standard text is am anaemic grey, not black. I've
read umpteen answers to the problem online, most of which involve trying
to use the high contrast themes and none of which (so far) have worked
without causing me more problems than they are worth. Increasing the
text size to, say, 125% helps me a lot with the microscopically small
text size (19" 1920 x 1080 screen) but makes the text dramatically paler
grey and hopelessly blurred. Naturally, I've made sure that I have the
latest drivers installed, and adjusted the screen settings as well as
possible. I've tuned the Cleartype settings to the optimum. Graphics in
games are remarkably good with the GTX 980 Ti 6Gb card, and I can adjust
the text within some programs (or parts of them) to look a bit better
using different fonts.

Before I resign myself to it never being any better than this, has
anyone any ideas where I could look for a way to change the Windows 10
global text settings to something more useable? Is there, for example,
an easy registry hack to change the global text colour from grey to
black (and perhaps to a more legible font than Segoe - albeit that is a
secondary issue, it's the colour that's important)? I imagine I'm on a
hopeless quest - but maybe I've missed something simple in my research?


https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/c...ont_not_sharp/

"I have found the culprit. When using HDMI, Nvidia control panel sees
the monitor as HDTV instead of a PC.

The problem is fixed if I use DVI; Nvidia control panel shows PC display.

So what can I change to make Nvidia treat my monitor as PC display
instead of HDTV?"

*******

As for the "ClearType", WinXP and Win10 have quite different approaches.

https://s1.postimg.org/754xt7eg0f/te...comparison.gif

ClearType uses color pixels. Now, a small percentage of the population,
the feathering on both sides of a letter, "sets them off". Not everyone
likes ClearType, just as Zebra stripes don't agree with all human
visual systems. There is actually a distribution of reactions to sight,
and we're not all the same.

The Win10 text rendering, is done with gray scale. And you can
see in the case of the letter "f", it's a horrible flop.

Using the SnippingTool, take a screen shot of your text.
Use your favorite image editor to zoom in and compare
to other screen shots you can find. Is your desktop
significantly worse than other people ? And just because
the video card says to "draw it this way", some screens
look worse than others (because of how the color pixel elements
that combine to form one "dot" on the screen, have some
weaknesses that are harder on the eyes). When you take
a screen shot, it doesn't actually capture the appearance
on the monitor, and the snapshot is further back in
the pipeline.

This image editor is not always that easiest to use, as
it attempts to do some things the "Photoshop way". This is
what I use on a daily basis for trivial cropping and image
conversion (jpg to gif maybe). There is a manual for it.
If I need to zoom in (using the scroll wheel), this is
the tool I use.

https://www.gimp.org/

If you want to post a (small) screenshot (1024x768),
you can do it here, and save the URL for your postings
later.

https://postimage.org/index.php?um=flash

Paul

Bob Henson wrote:

Having finally be forced to use Windows 10 (new computer - the only
thing that could make me!) I have managed to sort out most of its many
problems other than the one which is a major problem to me at my
advanced age - all the standard text is am anaemic grey, not black. I've
read umpteen answers to the problem online, most of which involve trying
to use the high contrast themes and none of which (so far) have worked
without causing me more problems than they are worth. Increasing the
text size to, say, 125% helps me a lot with the microscopically small
text size (19" 1920 x 1080 screen) but makes the text dramatically paler
grey and hopelessly blurred. Naturally, I've made sure that I have the
latest drivers installed, and adjusted the screen settings as well as
possible. I've tuned the Cleartype settings to the optimum. Graphics in
games are remarkably good with the GTX 980 Ti 6Gb card, and I can adjust
the text within some programs (or parts of them) to look a bit better
using different fonts.

Before I resign myself to it never being any better than this, has
anyone any ideas where I could look for a way to change the Windows 10
global text settings to something more useable? Is there, for example,
an easy registry hack to change the global text colour from grey to
black (and perhaps to a more legible font than Segoe - albeit that is a
secondary issue, it's the colour that's important)? I imagine I'm on a
hopeless quest - but maybe I've missed something simple in my research?

You never mentioned the brand and model of your monitor. For LCDs, use
a screen resolution that matches the native resolution of the monitor.
If you attempt to use any other resolution, there will be video
artifacts in attempting to interpolate images to a size that is
different than what the monitor was actually designed to handle.
Artifacts include color tinging along the sides of text, moiree
patterning, irregular stroke width in text, and loss of focus.

You say the screen resolution is 1920x1080 but is that the *native*
resolution of your monitor? You could give the brand and model of your
monitor but all anyone here could do is go lookup the specifications on
that device to see what is its native resolution.

Go find the specs of your monitor. Use THAT as your screen resolution.
Anything else produces problems on LCD monitors. If your monitor
supports something smaller for screen resolution, that is what you use,
not what your video card can support that is higher. Yeah, a smaller
screen resolution means less space to pile in smaller objects within the
screen size but is that more important?

I suspect your 19" monitor have only 1440x900 or 1280x1024 for its
native resolution. Going up to 1900x800 just because your video card is
capable means you are forcing the monitor to interpolate a LOT how to to
draw images (text is image, too -- it's all an image) far beyond what it
was designed to handle. An LCD monitor has a fixed number of pixels and
trying to push multiple image points onto a pixel results in a degraded
display.

Maybe you were used to using a CRT monitor which does not have a native
resolution since its tube was painted with phosphor instead having
discrete elements. CRTs did not have discrete elements to pass light.
Don't configure the video card to use a screen resolution less than the
native resolution of an LCD monitor. Don't configure the video card to
use a screen resolution higher than the native resolution of an LCD
monitor. Configure the screen size to *match* the LCD monitor's native
resolution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_resolution
http://www.lonestardigital.com/native_resolution.htm
https://www.howtogeek.com/119117/htg...-is-important/

On 18/10/2017 10:37 PM, Alek wrote:
Bob Henson wrote on 10/18/2017 4:09 AM:
Having finally be forced to use Windows 10 (new computer - the only
thing that could make me!) I have managed to sort out most of its many
problems other than the one which is a major problem to me at my
advanced age - all the standard text is am anaemic grey, not black. I've
read umpteen answers to the problem online, most of which involve trying
to use the high contrast themes and none of which (so far) have worked
without causing me more problems than they are worth. Increasing the
text size to, say, 125% helps me a lot with the microscopically small
text size (19" 1920 x 1080 screen)

Can you change to 1600 x 1200 for example?

Settings Display Resolution


I could, but then I'd degrade all the good bits.

--
Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England

Bank Manager: A man who lends you his umbrella on a sunny day, and
demands it back as soon as it rains. - Mark Twain