Cannot copy files/folfers from 95 to XP, cn copy to 95 from XP

Following a thread at TechGuy Networking forum about file sharing between 95
and XP.

XP has "simple sharing" enabled. Shared folder on XP has both "Share this
folder" and "Allow network users to change my files" checked.
95 has all sharing set correctly.
Both computers can see each other and ping by IP and name

Xp can copy flies/folders from the 95 and copy from the XP to the 95.

95 can copy from the XP, but can not copy to the XP.

Any ideas?

On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:45:01 -0700, dlsayremn
wrote:

Following a thread at TechGuy Networking forum about file sharing between 95
and XP.

XP has "simple sharing" enabled. Shared folder on XP has both "Share this
folder" and "Allow network users to change my files" checked.
95 has all sharing set correctly.
Both computers can see each other and ping by IP and name

Xp can copy flies/folders from the 95 and copy from the XP to the 95.

95 can copy from the XP, but can not copy to the XP.

Any ideas?

What exactly happens when 95 tries to copy to XP? If there's an error
message, what does it say?
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Desktop Experience)

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:45:01 -0700, dlsayremn
wrote:

Following a thread at TechGuy Networking forum about file sharing between 95
and XP.

XP has "simple sharing" enabled. Shared folder on XP has both "Share this
folder" and "Allow network users to change my files" checked.
95 has all sharing set correctly.
Both computers can see each other and ping by IP and name

Xp can copy flies/folders from the 95 and copy from the XP to the 95.

95 can copy from the XP, but can not copy to the XP.

Any ideas?

What exactly happens when 95 tries to copy to XP? If there's an error
message, what does it say?
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Desktop Experience)

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

"Steve Winograd [MS-MVP]" wrote:

On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:45:01 -0700, dlsayremn
wrote:

Following a thread at TechGuy Networking forum about file sharing between 95
and XP.

XP has "simple sharing" enabled. Shared folder on XP has both "Share this
folder" and "Allow network users to change my files" checked.
95 has all sharing set correctly.
Both computers can see each other and ping by IP and name

Xp can copy flies/folders from the 95 and copy from the XP to the 95.

95 can copy from the XP, but can not copy to the XP.

Any ideas?

What exactly happens when 95 tries to copy to XP? If there's an error
message, what does it say?
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Desktop Experience)

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com


Steve,

Thanks for the come back. Know working second hand like this is a pain. Op
is working with JohnWill at TechGuy which is why I am asking around insted of
sending him here.

He did not mention any specific messsage, so I will ask.

What makes it really hard to understand is that he can edit shared files on
the XP from the 95, so he has to have write pemission on the XP.

"Steve Winograd [MS-MVP]" wrote:

On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:45:01 -0700, dlsayremn
wrote:

Following a thread at TechGuy Networking forum about file sharing between 95
and XP.

XP has "simple sharing" enabled. Shared folder on XP has both "Share this
folder" and "Allow network users to change my files" checked.
95 has all sharing set correctly.
Both computers can see each other and ping by IP and name

Xp can copy flies/folders from the 95 and copy from the XP to the 95.

95 can copy from the XP, but can not copy to the XP.

Any ideas?

What exactly happens when 95 tries to copy to XP? If there's an error
message, what does it say?
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Desktop Experience)

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com


Steve,

Thanks for the come back. Know working second hand like this is a pain. Op
is working with JohnWill at TechGuy which is why I am asking around insted of
sending him here.

He did not mention any specific messsage, so I will ask.

What makes it really hard to understand is that he can edit shared files on
the XP from the 95, so he has to have write pemission on the XP.

On Sep 22, 12:32*pm, dlsayremn
wrote:
"Steve Winograd [MS-MVP]" wrote:
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:45:01 -0700, dlsayremn
wrote:

Following a thread at TechGuy Networking forum about file sharing between 95
and XP.

XP has "simple sharing" enabled. Shared folder on XP has both "Share this
folder" and "Allow network users to change my files" checked.
95 has all sharing set correctly.
Both computers can see each other and ping by IP and name

Xp can copy flies/folders from the 95 and copy from the XP to the 95.

95 can copy from the XP, but can not copy to the XP.

Any ideas?

What exactly happens when 95 tries to copy to XP? *If there's an error
message, what does it say?
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Desktop Experience)

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve,

Thanks for the come back. Know working second hand like this is a pain. Op
is working with JohnWill at TechGuy which is why I am asking around insted of
sending him here.

He did not mention any specific messsage, so I will ask.

What makes it really hard to understand is that he can edit shared files on
the XP from the 95, so he has to have write pemission on the XP.



The problem is that XP is a more secure filesystem than Windows 95.
Even with Simple File sharing turned on in XP, you may still need to
have the Windows 95 user account to exist on the XP.

On Sep 22, 12:32*pm, dlsayremn
wrote:
"Steve Winograd [MS-MVP]" wrote:
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:45:01 -0700, dlsayremn
wrote:

Following a thread at TechGuy Networking forum about file sharing between 95
and XP.

XP has "simple sharing" enabled. Shared folder on XP has both "Share this
folder" and "Allow network users to change my files" checked.
95 has all sharing set correctly.
Both computers can see each other and ping by IP and name

Xp can copy flies/folders from the 95 and copy from the XP to the 95.

95 can copy from the XP, but can not copy to the XP.

Any ideas?

What exactly happens when 95 tries to copy to XP? *If there's an error
message, what does it say?
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Desktop Experience)

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve,

Thanks for the come back. Know working second hand like this is a pain. Op
is working with JohnWill at TechGuy which is why I am asking around insted of
sending him here.

He did not mention any specific messsage, so I will ask.

What makes it really hard to understand is that he can edit shared files on
the XP from the 95, so he has to have write pemission on the XP.



The problem is that XP is a more secure filesystem than Windows 95.
Even with Simple File sharing turned on in XP, you may still need to
have the Windows 95 user account to exist on the XP.

"Steve Winograd [MS-MVP]" wrote:

On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:45:01 -0700, dlsayremn
wrote:

Following a thread at TechGuy Networking forum about file sharing between 95
and XP.

XP has "simple sharing" enabled. Shared folder on XP has both "Share this
folder" and "Allow network users to change my files" checked.
95 has all sharing set correctly.
Both computers can see each other and ping by IP and name

Xp can copy flies/folders from the 95 and copy from the XP to the 95.

95 can copy from the XP, but can not copy to the XP.

Any ideas?

What exactly happens when 95 tries to copy to XP? If there's an error
message, what does it say?
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Desktop Experience)

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com


Apparently just a general 'could not copy to with generic you may not have
permission to' without anything specific.

Things are becoming more weird.
This morning went back into Services to make sure all the necessary ones
were started. They still were.
He can now copy from the 95 to the All Users Shared Folder on the XP.
Still cannot copy from the 95 to any other shared folders on the XP, even
though he can manage the folders contents.

He is happy with that.

"Steve Winograd [MS-MVP]" wrote:

On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:45:01 -0700, dlsayremn
wrote:

Following a thread at TechGuy Networking forum about file sharing between 95
and XP.

XP has "simple sharing" enabled. Shared folder on XP has both "Share this
folder" and "Allow network users to change my files" checked.
95 has all sharing set correctly.
Both computers can see each other and ping by IP and name

Xp can copy flies/folders from the 95 and copy from the XP to the 95.

95 can copy from the XP, but can not copy to the XP.

Any ideas?

What exactly happens when 95 tries to copy to XP? If there's an error
message, what does it say?
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Desktop Experience)

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com


Apparently just a general 'could not copy to with generic you may not have
permission to' without anything specific.

Things are becoming more weird.
This morning went back into Services to make sure all the necessary ones
were started. They still were.
He can now copy from the 95 to the All Users Shared Folder on the XP.
Still cannot copy from the 95 to any other shared folders on the XP, even
though he can manage the folders contents.

He is happy with that.

If the shared folder is in your user-profile (e.g. inside My Documents) then
it is likely that NTFS filesystem permissions are preventing writes to the
disk by anyone other than the owner.

You find these on the Security tab of Properties... and this tab is only
visible if Simple File Sharing is OFF. (Yet, the settings still take effect
even when the tab is not visible.)

On XP Pro you can adjust the permissions (Add 'Everyone' as this account is
not computer-specific) On Home it is more difficult to do so, and the best
answer is to share a new folder in the root of C:

"dlsayremn" wrote:

Following a thread at TechGuy Networking forum about file sharing between 95
and XP.

XP has "simple sharing" enabled. Shared folder on XP has both "Share this
folder" and "Allow network users to change my files" checked.
95 has all sharing set correctly.
Both computers can see each other and ping by IP and name

Xp can copy flies/folders from the 95 and copy from the XP to the 95.

95 can copy from the XP, but can not copy to the XP.

Any ideas?

If the shared folder is in your user-profile (e.g. inside My Documents) then
it is likely that NTFS filesystem permissions are preventing writes to the
disk by anyone other than the owner.

You find these on the Security tab of Properties... and this tab is only
visible if Simple File Sharing is OFF. (Yet, the settings still take effect
even when the tab is not visible.)

On XP Pro you can adjust the permissions (Add 'Everyone' as this account is
not computer-specific) On Home it is more difficult to do so, and the best
answer is to share a new folder in the root of C:

"dlsayremn" wrote:

Following a thread at TechGuy Networking forum about file sharing between 95
and XP.

XP has "simple sharing" enabled. Shared folder on XP has both "Share this
folder" and "Allow network users to change my files" checked.
95 has all sharing set correctly.
Both computers can see each other and ping by IP and name

Xp can copy flies/folders from the 95 and copy from the XP to the 95.

95 can copy from the XP, but can not copy to the XP.

Any ideas?

Anteaus,
Thanks for the reply.

So "Manage" does not include write to disk.
That would explain what is happening now.
Can copy (write) to All Users Shared, but can not copy to other shares, even
though he can do everything else.

Do you know if one cna turn off "Simple Sharing" so he can make that change,
then turn "Simlpe Sharing" back on?

"Anteaus" wrote:


If the shared folder is in your user-profile (e.g. inside My Documents) then
it is likely that NTFS filesystem permissions are preventing writes to the
disk by anyone other than the owner.

You find these on the Security tab of Properties... and this tab is only
visible if Simple File Sharing is OFF. (Yet, the settings still take effect
even when the tab is not visible.)

On XP Pro you can adjust the permissions (Add 'Everyone' as this account is
not computer-specific) On Home it is more difficult to do so, and the best
answer is to share a new folder in the root of C:

"dlsayremn" wrote:

Following a thread at TechGuy Networking forum about file sharing between 95
and XP.

XP has "simple sharing" enabled. Shared folder on XP has both "Share this
folder" and "Allow network users to change my files" checked.
95 has all sharing set correctly.
Both computers can see each other and ping by IP and name

Xp can copy flies/folders from the 95 and copy from the XP to the 95.

95 can copy from the XP, but can not copy to the XP.

Any ideas?

Anteaus,
Thanks for the reply.

So "Manage" does not include write to disk.
That would explain what is happening now.
Can copy (write) to All Users Shared, but can not copy to other shares, even
though he can do everything else.

Do you know if one cna turn off "Simple Sharing" so he can make that change,
then turn "Simlpe Sharing" back on?

"Anteaus" wrote:


If the shared folder is in your user-profile (e.g. inside My Documents) then
it is likely that NTFS filesystem permissions are preventing writes to the
disk by anyone other than the owner.

You find these on the Security tab of Properties... and this tab is only
visible if Simple File Sharing is OFF. (Yet, the settings still take effect
even when the tab is not visible.)

On XP Pro you can adjust the permissions (Add 'Everyone' as this account is
not computer-specific) On Home it is more difficult to do so, and the best
answer is to share a new folder in the root of C:

"dlsayremn" wrote:

Following a thread at TechGuy Networking forum about file sharing between 95
and XP.

XP has "simple sharing" enabled. Shared folder on XP has both "Share this
folder" and "Allow network users to change my files" checked.
95 has all sharing set correctly.
Both computers can see each other and ping by IP and name

Xp can copy flies/folders from the 95 and copy from the XP to the 95.

95 can copy from the XP, but can not copy to the XP.

Any ideas?