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Windows 10 to feature native support for FLAC and MKV
On 2014-12-08, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
Slimer wrote: On 08/12/2014 12:30 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: Slimer wrote: On 08/12/2014 5:52 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: BobbyM wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: On 12/8/2014 10:13 AM, Brian Gregory wrote: On 07/12/2014 11:40, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: Brian Gregory wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: I've just noticed VLC 2.1.5 64 bit can't play DVDs without nasty corruption on the screen. I guess it might be the particular Nvidia drivers I'm using at the moment but other players play DVDs fine. Anyway at present I'm becoming less and less impressed by VLC. That's because you're using it on Windows. And Windows isn't quite there yet with 64-bit. Microsoft doesn't even have a 64-bit version of Visual Studio yet, as far as I know. I just tried VLC 2.1.5 32 bit for Windows and it has exactly the same problem. Note that this the same whether or not the DVD is CSS protected. You probably need to change the VLC settings; probably something to do with the video card. Nah. It's Windows. :-D You're an idiot, Chris Ahlstrom. Why? Because he is right? There is no reason to believe that the underlying operating system is the cause of the problem he is experiencing. If it was, ALL DVD playback programs would not work which is not the case. He posted that it does not work regardless if the DVD is CSS protected or not. You have to conclude that it is indeed wintendo which has its dirty fingers all over it. And windows *does* have put more and more restrictions on media play since WinXP. Including crippling high-end audio cards and limiting which kind of video can be played. That you guys accept that kind of dictatorship is telling. Only Mac fanbois are even dumber in what they accept Did the OP really do extensive testing with other players? What other players were tested? How do we know that this is a VLC issue and not something else being driven by a problem deeper in the operating system? MPEG2 is pretty lightweight stuff at this point. I would be shocked if any player can't handle it with ease. That includes handling Purevideo acceleration too. -- I want the option of leaving Wally World some time. ||| That's what distinguishes a real Apple. / | \ You can leave Wally World if you want. |
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Windows 10 to feature native support for FLAC and MKV
On 12/08/2014 09:30 AM, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
Slimer wrote: On 08/12/2014 5:52 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: BobbyM wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: On 12/8/2014 10:13 AM, Brian Gregory wrote: On 07/12/2014 11:40, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: Brian Gregory wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: I've just noticed VLC 2.1.5 64 bit can't play DVDs without nasty corruption on the screen. I guess it might be the particular Nvidia drivers I'm using at the moment but other players play DVDs fine. Anyway at present I'm becoming less and less impressed by VLC. That's because you're using it on Windows. And Windows isn't quite there yet with 64-bit. Microsoft doesn't even have a 64-bit version of Visual Studio yet, as far as I know. I just tried VLC 2.1.5 32 bit for Windows and it has exactly the same problem. Note that this the same whether or not the DVD is CSS protected. You probably need to change the VLC settings; probably something to do with the video card. Nah. It's Windows. :-D You're an idiot, Chris Ahlstrom. Why? Because he is right? vlc can be hit or miss, depending on what is being played. I've been experimenting using the new obs-studio, streamed through nginx with an rtmp module as the video server, and playing back on vlc. Playback on Linux has problems that I'm ironing out, but at least vlc doesn't crash -- but people viewing the stream with vlc on Windows have reported that the stream crashes vlc with an error in the Microsoft C++ runtime library. Personally, I believe vlc ran better before they started refactoring all the code. It's also made some usage cases more complicated -- for instance, to playback from my HDPVR, I used to be able to do: $ vlc pvr:// But they removed the pvr access module, saying to instead use v4l2. After looking around for a while, I discovered the magic incantation, which includes giving vlc more information about the stream: $ vlc v4l2c:// --v4l2-chroma=H264 --v4l2-width=1920 --v4l2-height=1080 (Of course, you can put those parameters into the gui, too, but I have this scripted as a "tv.sh" command for easy invocation.) -- "I will continue to troll and spam my videos that show nothing more but the failings of Apple's virtual machine, so there." -It (paraphrased) -v |
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Windows 10 to feature native support for FLAC and MKV
On 08/12/2014 2:34 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
Slimer wrote: On 08/12/2014 12:30 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: Slimer wrote: On 08/12/2014 5:52 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: BobbyM wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: On 12/8/2014 10:13 AM, Brian Gregory wrote: On 07/12/2014 11:40, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: Brian Gregory wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: I've just noticed VLC 2.1.5 64 bit can't play DVDs without nasty corruption on the screen. I guess it might be the particular Nvidia drivers I'm using at the moment but other players play DVDs fine. Anyway at present I'm becoming less and less impressed by VLC. That's because you're using it on Windows. And Windows isn't quite there yet with 64-bit. Microsoft doesn't even have a 64-bit version of Visual Studio yet, as far as I know. I just tried VLC 2.1.5 32 bit for Windows and it has exactly the same problem. Note that this the same whether or not the DVD is CSS protected. You probably need to change the VLC settings; probably something to do with the video card. Nah. It's Windows. :-D You're an idiot, Chris Ahlstrom. Why? Because he is right? There is no reason to believe that the underlying operating system is the cause of the problem he is experiencing. If it was, ALL DVD playback programs would not work which is not the case. He posted that it does not work regardless if the DVD is CSS protected or not. You have to conclude that it is indeed wintendo which has its dirty fingers all over it. And windows *does* have put more and more restrictions on media play since WinXP. Including crippling high-end audio cards and limiting which kind of video can be played. That you guys accept that kind of dictatorship is telling. Only Mac fanbois are even dumber in what they accept I've been using every version of VLC in Windows 7 AND Windows 8 to play DVDs. As it is, not ONE has given me any kind of fragments at all, ever, unless I didn't bother to put the libdvdcss.dll file in the appropriate folder. I have a lot of trouble believing that it would suddenly happen for others since I have used this program on a variety of computers without experiencing any kind of trouble. However, I'm open to reading evidence of how Windows crippled high-end audio cards and limited the playback of videos. -- Slimer OpenMedia, Wikipedia & Hope for Paws Supporter |
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Windows 10 to feature native support for FLAC and MKV
On 2014-12-08, vallor wrote:
On 12/08/2014 09:30 AM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: Slimer wrote: On 08/12/2014 5:52 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: BobbyM wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: On 12/8/2014 10:13 AM, Brian Gregory wrote: On 07/12/2014 11:40, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: Brian Gregory wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: I've just noticed VLC 2.1.5 64 bit can't play DVDs without nasty corruption on the screen. I guess it might be the particular Nvidia drivers I'm using at the moment but other players play DVDs fine. Anyway at present I'm becoming less and less impressed by VLC. That's because you're using it on Windows. And Windows isn't quite there yet with 64-bit. Microsoft doesn't even have a 64-bit version of Visual Studio yet, as far as I know. I just tried VLC 2.1.5 32 bit for Windows and it has exactly the same problem. Note that this the same whether or not the DVD is CSS protected. You probably need to change the VLC settings; probably something to do with the video card. Nah. It's Windows. :-D You're an idiot, Chris Ahlstrom. Why? Because he is right? vlc can be hit or miss, depending on what is being played. I've been experimenting using the new obs-studio, streamed through nginx with an rtmp module as the video server, and playing back on vlc. Playback on Linux has problems that I'm ironing out, but at least vlc doesn't crash -- but people viewing the stream with vlc on Windows have reported that the stream crashes vlc with an error in the Microsoft C++ runtime library. Personally, I believe vlc ran better before they started refactoring all the code. It's also made some usage cases more complicated -- for instance, to playback from my HDPVR, I used to be able to do: $ vlc pvr:// But they removed the pvr access module, saying to instead use v4l2. After looking around for a while, I discovered the magic incantation, which includes giving vlc more information about the stream: Well, there is nothing special about the HD-PVR driver. So it makes sense to access it in a generic fashion. Although it's a little disturbing that VLC requires extra parameters. You should be able to just pipe the output from the device node and be done. [deletia] -- I want the option of leaving Wally World some time. ||| That's what distinguishes a real Apple. / | \ You can leave Wally World if you want. |
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Windows 10 to feature native support for FLAC and MKV
vallor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
I've been experimenting using the new obs-studio, streamed through nginx with an rtmp module as the video server, and playing back on vlc. Playback on Linux has problems that I'm ironing out, but at least vlc doesn't crash -- but people viewing the stream with vlc on Windows have reported that the stream crashes vlc with an error in the Microsoft C++ runtime library. Wotta surprise :-) Personally, I believe vlc ran better before they started refactoring all the code. It's also made some usage cases more complicated -- for instance, to playback from my HDPVR, I used to be able to do: $ vlc pvr:// But they removed the pvr access module, saying to instead use v4l2. After looking around for a while, I discovered the magic incantation, which includes giving vlc more information about the stream: $ vlc v4l2c:// --v4l2-chroma=H264 --v4l2-width=1920 --v4l2-height=1080 (Of course, you can put those parameters into the gui, too, but I have this scripted as a "tv.sh" command for easy invocation.) -- Heuristics are bug ridden by definition. If they didn't have bugs, then they'd be algorithms. |
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Windows 10 to feature native support for FLAC and MKV
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 17:22:22 -0500, Slimer wrote:
On 08/12/2014 2:34 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: Slimer wrote: On 08/12/2014 12:30 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: Slimer wrote: On 08/12/2014 5:52 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: BobbyM wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: On 12/8/2014 10:13 AM, Brian Gregory wrote: On 07/12/2014 11:40, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: Brian Gregory wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: I've just noticed VLC 2.1.5 64 bit can't play DVDs without nasty corruption on the screen. I guess it might be the particular Nvidia drivers I'm using at the moment but other players play DVDs fine. Anyway at present I'm becoming less and less impressed by VLC. That's because you're using it on Windows. And Windows isn't quite there yet with 64-bit. Microsoft doesn't even have a 64-bit version of Visual Studio yet, as far as I know. I just tried VLC 2.1.5 32 bit for Windows and it has exactly the same problem. Note that this the same whether or not the DVD is CSS protected. You probably need to change the VLC settings; probably something to do with the video card. Nah. It's Windows. :-D You're an idiot, Chris Ahlstrom. Why? Because he is right? There is no reason to believe that the underlying operating system is the cause of the problem he is experiencing. If it was, ALL DVD playback programs would not work which is not the case. He posted that it does not work regardless if the DVD is CSS protected or not. You have to conclude that it is indeed wintendo which has its dirty fingers all over it. And windows *does* have put more and more restrictions on media play since WinXP. Including crippling high-end audio cards and limiting which kind of video can be played. That you guys accept that kind of dictatorship is telling. Only Mac fanbois are even dumber in what they accept I've been using every version of VLC in Windows 7 AND Windows 8 to play DVDs. As it is, not ONE has given me any kind of fragments at all, ever, unless I didn't bother to put the libdvdcss.dll file in the appropriate folder. I have a lot of trouble believing that it would suddenly happen for others since I have used this program on a variety of computers without experiencing any kind of trouble. However, I'm open to reading evidence of how Windows crippled high-end audio cards and limited the playback of videos. VLC has pretty much worked flawlessly for me under Windows 8.1. -- flatfish+++ Linux: The Operating System That Put The City Of Munich Out Of Business. Before Switching To Linux Read This: http://linuxfonts.narod.ru/why.linux...current.htm l |
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Windows 10 to feature native support for FLAC and MKV
On 09/12/2014 10:55 AM, flatfish+++ wrote:
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 17:22:22 -0500, Slimer wrote: On 08/12/2014 2:34 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: Slimer wrote: On 08/12/2014 12:30 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: Slimer wrote: On 08/12/2014 5:52 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: BobbyM wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: On 12/8/2014 10:13 AM, Brian Gregory wrote: On 07/12/2014 11:40, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: Brian Gregory wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: I've just noticed VLC 2.1.5 64 bit can't play DVDs without nasty corruption on the screen. I guess it might be the particular Nvidia drivers I'm using at the moment but other players play DVDs fine. Anyway at present I'm becoming less and less impressed by VLC. That's because you're using it on Windows. And Windows isn't quite there yet with 64-bit. Microsoft doesn't even have a 64-bit version of Visual Studio yet, as far as I know. I just tried VLC 2.1.5 32 bit for Windows and it has exactly the same problem. Note that this the same whether or not the DVD is CSS protected. You probably need to change the VLC settings; probably something to do with the video card. Nah. It's Windows. :-D You're an idiot, Chris Ahlstrom. Why? Because he is right? There is no reason to believe that the underlying operating system is the cause of the problem he is experiencing. If it was, ALL DVD playback programs would not work which is not the case. He posted that it does not work regardless if the DVD is CSS protected or not. You have to conclude that it is indeed wintendo which has its dirty fingers all over it. And windows *does* have put more and more restrictions on media play since WinXP. Including crippling high-end audio cards and limiting which kind of video can be played. That you guys accept that kind of dictatorship is telling. Only Mac fanbois are even dumber in what they accept I've been using every version of VLC in Windows 7 AND Windows 8 to play DVDs. As it is, not ONE has given me any kind of fragments at all, ever, unless I didn't bother to put the libdvdcss.dll file in the appropriate folder. I have a lot of trouble believing that it would suddenly happen for others since I have used this program on a variety of computers without experiencing any kind of trouble. However, I'm open to reading evidence of how Windows crippled high-end audio cards and limited the playback of videos. VLC has pretty much worked flawlessly for me under Windows 8.1. I honestly don't see how anyone can have problems with it. It has honestly not given me a single problem since I discovered it years ago. This is truly a situation where the problem is the user, not the program. -- Slimer OpenMedia, Wikipedia & Hope for Paws Supporter |
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Windows 10 to feature native support for FLAC and MKV
On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 12:35:50 -0500, Slimer wrote:
On 09/12/2014 10:55 AM, flatfish+++ wrote: VLC has pretty much worked flawlessly for me under Windows 8.1. I honestly don't see how anyone can have problems with it. It has honestly not given me a single problem since I discovered it years ago. This is truly a situation where the problem is the user, not the program. I tried VLC back in the early days of Win XP and it kept crashing. I switched to Media Player Classic (and then MPC-Home Cinema) and never looked back. I'm sure VLC is a great program, (maybe not so much back then), but MPC-HC hasn't given me a single problem, ever, so I'll stay with what works. |
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Windows 10 to feature native support for FLAC and MKV
On 2014-12-09, Char Jackson wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 12:35:50 -0500, Slimer wrote: On 09/12/2014 10:55 AM, flatfish+++ wrote: VLC has pretty much worked flawlessly for me under Windows 8.1. I honestly don't see how anyone can have problems with it. It has honestly not given me a single problem since I discovered it years ago. This is truly a situation where the problem is the user, not the program. I tried VLC back in the early days of Win XP and it kept crashing. I switched to Media Player Classic (and then MPC-Home Cinema) and never looked back. I'm sure VLC is a great program, (maybe not so much back then), but MPC-HC hasn't given me a single problem, ever, so I'll stay with what works. Wellllll, win 10 TP doesn't recognize FLAC; a msg pops up & say that it doesn't know how to play the file but do I want to play it anyway!! Hit the play & a msg comes up that it cannot play the file as the file type is unknown. Using win 10 TP in hyper-v in win8.1 & Windows Media Player. Will load VLC & Foobar2000 to check sometime much later; need to get hyper-v to recognize usb audio prior to that. In fact wonder if hyper-v will ever recognize & pass the usb devices to the client OSs. Wait, the linux client (opensuse 13.2) did "see" the usb audio but no sound, which is about my usual experience with suse until an update sometime far down the line. Then this is "TP" really stand for Technical Preview? May have to check out Oracle's free version & start over. |
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Windows 10 to feature native support for FLAC and MKV
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 04:06:33 +0000 (UTC), lew wrote:
On 2014-12-09, Char Jackson wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 12:35:50 -0500, Slimer wrote: On 09/12/2014 10:55 AM, flatfish+++ wrote: VLC has pretty much worked flawlessly for me under Windows 8.1. I honestly don't see how anyone can have problems with it. It has honestly not given me a single problem since I discovered it years ago. This is truly a situation where the problem is the user, not the program. I tried VLC back in the early days of Win XP and it kept crashing. I switched to Media Player Classic (and then MPC-Home Cinema) and never looked back. I'm sure VLC is a great program, (maybe not so much back then), but MPC-HC hasn't given me a single problem, ever, so I'll stay with what works. Wait, the linux client (opensuse 13.2) did "see" the usb audio but no sound, which is about my usual experience with suse until an update sometime far down the line. Be careful lest the COLA Linux advocates tar and feather you. In COLA, everything Linux "just works". They have been making that claim for decades BTW. Then this is "TP" really stand for Technical Preview? May have to check out Oracle's free version & start over. Could be many things. When the RC versions appear we will have a better idea. -- flatfish+++ Linux: The Operating System That Put The City Of Munich Out Of Business. Before Switching To Linux Read This: http://linuxfonts.narod.ru/why.linux...current.htm l |
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On 2014-12-15, flatfish+++ wrote:
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 04:06:33 +0000 (UTC), lew wrote: On 2014-12-09, Char Jackson wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 12:35:50 -0500, Slimer wrote: On 09/12/2014 10:55 AM, flatfish+++ wrote: VLC has pretty much worked flawlessly for me under Windows 8.1. I honestly don't see how anyone can have problems with it. It has honestly not given me a single problem since I discovered it years ago. This is truly a situation where the problem is the user, not the program. I tried VLC back in the early days of Win XP and it kept crashing. I switched to Media Player Classic (and then MPC-Home Cinema) and never looked back. I'm sure VLC is a great program, (maybe not so much back then), but MPC-HC hasn't given me a single problem, ever, so I'll stay with what works. Wait, the linux client (opensuse 13.2) did "see" the usb audio but no sound, which is about my usual experience with suse until an update sometime far down the line. Be careful lest the COLA Linux advocates tar and feather you. In COLA, everything Linux "just works". They have been making that claim for decades BTW. Not as much as the CRAPPLE people. Too much fraud there as it didn't work even with the old mac 512 & certainly not with the mac mini. The "retina" displays don't improve the displays as the system fonts are still locked into tiny fonts; the connectivity only worked with crapple's overpriced devices because of the propriety imbedded roms which are checked to see if they were made by apple. |
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Windows 10 to feature native support for FLAC and MKV
lew wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
On 2014-12-15, flatfish+++ wrote: Be careful lest the COLA Linux advocates tar and feather you. In COLA, everything Linux "just works". They have been making that claim for decades BTW. The troll lies. Not as much as the CRAPPLE people. Too much fraud there as it didn't work even with the old mac 512 & certainly not with the mac mini. The "retina" displays don't improve the displays as the system fonts are still locked into tiny fonts; the connectivity only worked with crapple's overpriced devices because of the propriety imbedded roms which are checked to see if they were made by apple. -- In the force if Yoda's so strong, construct a sentence with words in the proper order then why can't he? |
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Windows 10 to feature native support for FLAC and MKV
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 12:34:39 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
lew wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: On 2014-12-15, flatfish+++ wrote: Be careful lest the COLA Linux advocates tar and feather you. In COLA, everything Linux "just works". They have been making that claim for decades BTW. The troll lies. The part you snipped, Chrissy Ahlstrom: " Wait, the linux client (opensuse 13.2) did "see" the usb audio but no sound, which is about my usual experience with suse until an update sometime far down the line." https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...+13.2+no+sound -- flatfish+++ Linux: The Operating System That Put The City Of Munich Out Of Business. Before Switching To Linux Read This: http://linuxfonts.narod.ru/why.linux...current.htm l |
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Windows 10 to feature native support for FLAC and MKV
On 12/15/14, 9:46 AM, in article , "lew"
wrote: Wait, the linux client (opensuse 13.2) did "see" the usb audio but no sound, which is about my usual experience with suse until an update sometime far down the line. Be careful lest the COLA Linux advocates tar and feather you. In COLA, everything Linux "just works". They have been making that claim for decades BTW. Not as much as the CRAPPLE people. Too much fraud there as it didn't work even with the old mac 512 & certainly not with the mac mini. The "retina" displays don't improve the displays as the system fonts are still locked into tiny fonts; the connectivity only worked with crapple's overpriced devices because of the propriety imbedded roms which are checked to see if they were made by apple. Challenge: Find *one* review of a Retina Mac where they reviewer does not speak very highly of the displays. -- * Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA * Mint KDE working with folders: http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0 * Mint KDE creating files: http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8 * Mint KDE help: http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8 * Mint KDE general navigation: http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI * Mavericks / Pages 5.1: http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk * OS / Word Processor Comparison: http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c |
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Snit wrote:
Wait, the linux client (opensuse 13.2) did "see" the usb audio but no sound, which is about my usual experience with suse until an update sometime far down the line. Be careful lest the COLA Linux advocates tar and feather you. In COLA, everything Linux "just works". They have been making that claim for decades BTW. Not as much as the CRAPPLE people. Too much fraud there as it didn't work even with the old mac 512 & certainly not with the mac mini. The "retina" displays don't improve the displays as the system fonts are still locked into tiny fonts; the connectivity only worked with crapple's overpriced devices because of the propriety imbedded roms which are checked to see if they were made by apple. Challenge: Find *one* review of a Retina Mac where they reviewer does not speak very highly of the displays. Retina is the best. |
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